Quote from: tac on September 04, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
It was also hard to believe that the jr senator,who did nothing in the senate, could become president, but look what happened. Don't under estimate the stupidity of the voters.

I'm somewhat confused as to why the `rats are not falling all over themselves to encourage Bobo the Clown Biden to run. I'm wondering what the Clinton machine has on him that is holding him back?

Maybe nothing's holding him back. Until he declares he can't openly seek campaign contributions for a decent run against Hildabeast. At this stage it's just testing the waters. As for why the Donks haven't forced him out there to save us all from Shrill....gee, that's a toughie! 

Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 04, 2015, 04:13:41 PM
Why would he run? He has always wanted to be president but I doubt he ever envisioned being sworn in with as many problems as we have and Obama will only support a nominee that will continue the same policies. If he won he would take office with a "recovery" in it's ninth year with barely two percent growth. The lowest labor participation rate since Carter. Highest level of Debt and number of people on assistance.

Meanwhile Iran will be building a bomb, ISIS is on the march and Syria will be on the brink or have fallen to the terrorists who will now have control of their chemical weapons and the other Gulf countries will be in an arms race. Putin is on the march in Europe and China is on the march in Asia and neither of those countries respect or fear us.

That is a lot for a seventy-three year old person to deal with when the policies he uses are the reason things are so bad.

Quote from: kj4adn on September 04, 2015, 06:42:15 AM
Put out a sacrificial lamb, the numbers are so bad.  Let her fail, and sweep her out of the way for the next election cycle. 
It's also the chance for the "lucky shot" that hits the mark.   If by sheer luck, she wins, OMG!   They just hit the jackpot!

I think... from her perspective,  the fear of losing and not fulfilling whatever back room deals,  the stuff of the Clinton Crime Foundation was paid for...      high drama!  If her numbers keep going down, boy... is this gonna get UGLY! 

I guess that as long as there still is enough time for all, in the end of the race the role of the sacrificial lamp will be played by Hillary.
Anyway we all know that it's somebody Republican to be our next president. 

Quote from: tac on September 04, 2015, 05:55:56 AM
It was also hard to believe that the jr senator,who did nothing in the senate, could become president, but look what happened. Don't under estimate the stupidity of the voters.

I'm somewhat confused as to why the `rats are not falling all over themselves to encourage Bobo the Clown Biden to run. I'm wondering what the Clinton machine has on him that is holding him back?

Yeah, definitely
Half a year ago I was hoping to see some fresh face on the race. Now I see a pack of "newbies"
Let us wait for them to open up

With the world sitting on two potential watershed moments, the economy and the Iran nuke, it would not be a good idea to enter the contest until later this year, or after the first of next year. I say that because worst case, all Washington could wind up taking the heat for, let's just say, a financial crisis or an action by Israel and or a ME coalition.

Hillary could skulk away babbling about the Republicans being too mean to avoid a financial crisis, one that is most likely unavoidable. Kerry is already out there saying that if America rejects the Iran nuke, it could trigger a crisis in the financial markets.

https://youtu.be/RsHD1jrozO4

Quote from: walkstall on September 04, 2015, 01:10:21 PM
He may be using this for free air time like Trump.  If he doesn't get enough hell ya!  Then he will not run.

I would bet that Bill Clinton has bullied, cursed, threatened and promised all the leaders of the party enough to give Hillary a little more time! This last week she is attempting to get really aggressive! Hasn't worked, But he has been giving interviews, speeches and even press conferences. She is pushing her Woman's issues  and defending the server scandal! She has been more active this last week then she's been in months.
Biden is waiting to be let loose!

Quote from: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 04:24:00 PM
I would bet that Bill Clinton has bullied, cursed, threatened and promised all the leaders of the party enough to give Hillary a little more time! This last week she is attempting to get really aggressive! Hasn't worked, But he has been giving interviews, speeches and even press conferences. She is pushing her Woman's issues  and defending the server scandal! She has been more active this last week then she's been in months.
Biden is waiting to be let loose!

That picture of Bill wagging his finger at Barry on the golf course, comes to mind.  It is her nomination to lose, he who contributes to her loss will pay the price with political & financial ruin.  Money talks - in this case, demands.

Quote from: kj4adn on September 06, 2015, 10:13:41 AM
That picture of Bill wagging his finger at Barry on the golf course, comes to mind.  It is her nomination to lose, he who contributes to her loss will pay the price with political & financial ruin.  Money talks - in this case, demands.

Absolutely! Obozo is a piker when compared to Klinton mafia connections.
They'd eat his bony ass alive once he's out of office.

Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 10:16:31 AM
Absolutely! Obozo is a piker when compared to Klinton mafia connections.
They'd eat his bony ass alive once he's out of office.

As far as Obama being this awesome power player goes, same principle applies. Both parties gave him more than enough rope to hang himself with, which he did, made a total fool out of himself,  assured that America won't see another black first family for the rest of the century.
"We can't stand in the way of the world's most powerful man, now, can we?"
Pure baloney. Nixon, Carter, Johnson, Clinton, GW Bush -- each at one time the "world's most powerful man," and mattered not the least to Washington or the lawyers that run it.

Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 11:49:11 AM
As far as Obama being this awesome power player goes, same principle applies. Both parties gave him more than enough rope to hang himself with, which he did, made a total fool out of himself,  assured that America won't see another black first family for the rest of the century.
"We can't stand in the way of the world's most powerful man, now, can we?"
Pure baloney. Nixon, Carter, Johnson, Clinton, GW Bush -- each at one time the "world's most powerful man," and mattered not the least to Washington or the lawyers that run it.

I think we need to ask, "who made each of these men, who are they beholden to?", themselves or someone or something else?

Nixon is an interesting mix of "Kennedy royalty" & GOPe, Carter was a Dem long shot at rabid socialism in disguise, Johnson was the last thing anyone expected (a placeholder getting the top slot due to an assignation), Clinton was nothing but a Cheshire Cat Smile elected via the split (Perot).  However, Clinton has proven to be smart enough to parlay his Presidency into a war $ chest, and leverage Hillary's campaign.  Unlike GW Bush, Bill is a political predator who loves the halls of power.   Maybe Soros will shut Bill down, and a new war front will open.

Barry is like a vapor, I think the same people that brought him into office will tell him his time is up, sit down and shut up - provided a Democrat is elected.  Or they'll try to figure out how to leverage his -thin- "racial" popularity for another run at turning the country socialist, thru racial division, then shut him down when they're through with him.  In short, he's a puppet - but, thinks he's really his own man.  Barry's move to encourage Biden to run was his own mistake, thinking he was a mover-n-shaker.

Biden...?  He's probably been warned to keep his skinny white butt OUT until Hillary has failed completely.   

The media likes to distract us from the REAL drama on the left with Trump stuff - but, there's gotta be a real brawl going on between Bill, DEM elites & Barry... with the rest of the candidates begging for media attention.    Tis the stuff for suspense novels & TV series... Oh, they did that already?    LOL, silly me! 

Maybe the Trump supporters will counter with a pledge of their own. Either Trump is nominated, or we stay home.  The escape clause would be a contingency -- if Hillary turns out the nominee, the pledge is off.  Thataway, if the GOP should nominate JEB, he'd likely lose.
Then, Jesuit Joe could jump in.

Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 01:26:41 PM
Maybe the Trump supporters will counter with a pledge of their own. Either Trump is nominated, or we stay home.  The escape clause would be a contingency -- if Hillary turns out the nominee, the pledge is off.  Thataway, if the GOP should nominate JEB, he'd likely lose.
Then, Jesuit Joe could jump in.

Seriously, you like the lib that much?

Quote from: Solar on September 06, 2015, 02:03:47 PM
Seriously, you like the lib that much?

More like an expression of disgust that Trump would give in to RINO extortion.
What could he possibly gain by signing such a pledge? Like, the RINO are suddenly
going to call off the dogs? Not going to happen. CNN is already gearing up for their
turn to show out as RINO lapdogs and get their share of the big JEB money.
What a way to run a railroad!

Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 02:34:25 PM
More like an expression of disgust that Trump would give in to RINO extortion.
What could he possibly gain by signing such a pledge? Like, the RINO are suddenly
going to call off the dogs? Not going to happen. CNN is already gearing up for their
turn to show out as RINO lapdogs and get their share of the big JEB money.
What a way to run a railroad!

Oh I'm sure he'll walk on water, just like the trumpbots believe he can, for Trump can do no wrong. Right?
This is what happens when people deitise men, raise their status above mere mortals, like the kiddies did with the "O", all the while ignoring reality, and in Trump's case, his connection to the Marxist in both party's.

How is it possible that suddenly, after decades of pandering to both political party's, people think This time is different, "This time he's Telling The Truth".

Quote from: red_dirt on September 06, 2015, 02:34:25 PM
More like an expression of disgust that Trump would give in to RINO extortion.
What could he possibly gain by signing such a pledge? Like, the RINO are suddenly
going to call off the dogs? Not going to happen. CNN is already gearing up for their
turn to show out as RINO lapdogs and get their share of the big JEB money.
What a way to run a railroad!

I had the same opinion about his signing that he got nothing out of it until this morning! A talking head Trump supporter put it out! The part of the pledge that states he would support whoever won the primary at first glance is a WTF but they are requiring ALL the candidates to sign this form. It requires all the others to support him should he win! If you look at it in that context, it's not that bad a deal!