I was thinking while messing around the house that there is MUCH more at stake than what some people think. America has been in the way of Communist fantasies for nearly our whole existence. Think about it! If America falls, how many countries do we help, defend, etc.?
How much aid is sent to other countries that will cease if the Communists are successful at destroying America?
How about Israel? What would happen to them if America stopped selling them arms? Stopped protecting them? What if America wasn't around any more and Israel had to fend for and defend themselves? Israel is bordered virtually on every side with countries who would like to wipe them off the map. If America ceases to exist as a military power, think the Palestinians will leave Israel alone?
NATO is basically financed and supported by America and her military might. China, Russia and other Communist countries such as N. Korea are held in check by U.S. military might. What if that "might" no longer existed?
Then there is the nuclear weapons angle. Russia, China, N. Korea, Iraq have them as do many other countries. America is a deterrent for using them. What if America ceased to exist?
The Democrats want America to be as poor, unemployed, taxed, burdened, Communistic, disarmed and ruled by elites as other third world countries are. If that happens (and we are voluntarily moving that way), what happens to the rest of the world?
What happens to the people in America?
Now you understand why it will never happen, Right?
With just 23 million Patriots who took the oath, there are 14 million Patriot's who could step in right now to make the change.
There's a reason we haven't yet.
Quote from: Solar on September 21, 2021, 08:26:11 AMNow you understand why it will never happen, Right?
With just 23 million Patriots who took the oath, there are 14 million Patriot's who could step in right now to make the change.
There's a reason we haven't yet.
There have been so many things that I would have said "will never happen" and yet, they HAVE happened.
I would have said that a presidential election would "never" be stolen but, what happened in 2020? Is this the first time that it has happened? How many elections have been compromised?
Walking into stores that only sell goods manufactured in Communist China right here in the U.S.A. I would have said that would "never" happen and yet, it IS happening.
U.S. borders being over-run with illegals and our government doing nothing but, making ridiculous excuses and condoning the behavior. I would have said that would "never" happen also yet, it IS happening and it HAS been happening for decades.
When HRC had a private server with government secrets on it and access to it by our enemies, I would have said that it would "never happen" and yet, it did. Not only did it happen but, she was publicly and openly exempted from prosecution.
When patriots were murdered in Benghazi and all Democrats could do was to claim that it made no difference, I would have bet that it could "never happen".
When the Benghazi ambassador made 600+ requests for increased security, all of which were denied or ignored, I would have said that would "never" happen.
The WH deliberately leaking information about seal team 6 as being the ones to kill Osama Bin Laden, would have seemed like it would "never" happen here and yet, it happened.
When our military soldiers and their patrol boat were captured during peace time, I would have said that it would "never happen" yet, it did!
I would have said that it would "never happen" that a THEORY was taught in our schools as if it were fact but, in fact it is, has been and will continue to be.
I would have said that religious education would "never" be cancelled in our schools yet, that happened also.
I would have said that there would "never" be co-ed restrooms in elementary schools and yet, there are co-ed restrooms in some elementary schools.
I would have said that there would "never" be multiple genders on forms but, that too has happened.
I would have said that there would "never" be legal actions against individuals simply because they used the wrong word in addressing certain individuals and yet, that has been happening.
Courts refusing to listen to eyewitness testimony or watch video tape evidence regarding the presidential election, would have seemed like it would "never" happen and yet, it has happened.
Millions of patriots you say? Hmmmm, maybe...
Quote from: RV on September 21, 2021, 08:01:45 AMI was thinking while messing around the house that there is MUCH more at stake than what some people think. America has been in the way of Communist fantasies for nearly our whole existence. Think about it! If America falls, how many countries do we help, defend, etc.?
How much aid is sent to other countries that will cease if the Communists are successful at destroying America?
How about Israel? What would happen to them if America stopped selling them arms? Stopped protecting them? What if America wasn't around any more and Israel had to fend for and defend themselves? Israel is bordered virtually on every side with countries who would like to wipe them off the map. If America ceases to exist as a military power, think the Palestinians will leave Israel alone?
NATO is basically financed and supported by America and her military might. China, Russia and other Communist countries such as N. Korea are held in check by U.S. military might. What if that "might" no longer existed?
Then there is the nuclear weapons angle. Russia, China, N. Korea, Iraq have them as do many other countries. America is a deterrent for using them. What if America ceased to exist?
The Democrats want America to be as poor, unemployed, taxed, burdened, Communistic, disarmed and ruled by elites as other third world countries are. If that happens (and we are voluntarily moving that way), what happens to the rest of the world?
What happens to the people in America?
Without the democrats to protect the terrorist, Israel might get the chance to defend herself to her abilities. There can be peace when one side surrenders, Israel understands that, so do the terrorist. That explains why the democrats always push a peace deal before Israel can finish the job.
Quote from: RV on September 21, 2021, 09:38:47 AMThere have been so many things that I would have said "will never happen" and yet, they HAVE happened.
I would have said that a presidential election would "never" be stolen but, what happened in 2020? Is this the first time that it has happened? How many elections have been compromised?
Walking into stores that only sell goods manufactured in Communist China right here in the U.S.A. I would have said that would "never" happen and yet, it IS happening.
U.S. borders being over-run with illegals and our government doing nothing but, making ridiculous excuses and condoning the behavior. I would have said that would "never" happen also yet, it IS happening and it HAS been happening for decades.
When HRC had a private server with government secrets on it and access to it by our enemies, I would have said that it would "never happen" and yet, it did. Not only did it happen but, she was publicly and openly exempted from prosecution.
When patriots were murdered in Benghazi and all Democrats could do was to claim that it made no difference, I would have bet that it could "never happen".
When the Benghazi ambassador made 600+ requests for increased security, all of which were denied or ignored, I would have said that would "never" happen.
The WH deliberately leaking information about seal team 6 as being the ones to kill Osama Bin Laden, would have seemed like it would "never" happen here and yet, it happened.
When our military soldiers and their patrol boat were captured during peace time, I would have said that it would "never happen" yet, it did!
I would have said that it would "never happen" that a THEORY was taught in our schools as if it were fact but, in fact it is, has been and will continue to be.
I would have said that religious education would "never" be cancelled in our schools yet, that happened also.
I would have said that there would "never" be co-ed restrooms in elementary schools and yet, there are co-ed restrooms in some elementary schools.
I would have said that there would "never" be multiple genders on forms but, that too has happened.
I would have said that there would "never" be legal actions against individuals simply because they used the wrong word in addressing certain individuals and yet, that has been happening.
Courts refusing to listen to eyewitness testimony or watch video tape evidence regarding the presidential election, would have seemed like it would "never" happen and yet, it has happened.
Millions of patriots you say? Hmmmm, maybe...
Had you been here over the last decade, you'd have known this was an inevitability.
Right up to the point that the DNC would self destruct.
This has been a part of the plan all along, destroy the US and sacrifice the party in the process.
You seem to think we're already destroyed? Not by a longshot, we haven't even fired a shot yet.
America IS falling. look at our cities! We have no border. 30+ trillion in debt! On and on, it not going to end peacefully.
What happens if America no longer supports/defends Israel?
WW freaking 3...thats what, with the Israeli's popping nukes all over the middle east blowing up Iran oil refineries in the gulf with subs, blasting the shit out of their Russian oil pipelines etc etc. Thats one reason right there why RUSSIA is 2nd to the USA selling the Israeli's weapons. Mother Russia must have Iranian oil.
All those cat litter box countries know it too. So while they bluster and posture and once in awhile get some Palestinian loon to blow himself up or fire a few mortar rounds, They all know what happens if they REALLY pull "The" trigger
2d the world economy will sink into a depression without our capitalist system.
Once again the rest of the world knows this....think about it, Who will buy the crap the chinese manufacture?
I am not going to lie. I am terrified about what has occurred over the past 8 months. Nothing is done on accident. Today the bald headed lunatic told the American people that the plan at the border was working. We just brought into this country God knows who from Afghanistan. Plane after plane after plane full and now we know many have left the bases where they "WERE" being housed.
We are in danger. Today it is a fact that we have more terrorists working inside our borders than ever before. We also have a government pushing a GLOBAL ECONOMY in which the taxpayer puts the world on its back.
I agree 100% with RV. I am worried.
Quote from: esbad63 on September 21, 2021, 06:19:47 PMI am not going to lie. I am terrified about what has occurred over the past 8 months. Nothing is done on accident. Today the bald headed lunatic told the American people that the plan at the border was working. We just brought into this country God knows who from Afghanistan. Plane after plane after plane full and now we know many have left the bases where they "WERE" being housed.
We are in danger. Today it is a fact that we have more terrorists working inside our borders than ever before. We also have a government pushing a GLOBAL ECONOMY in which the taxpayer puts the world on its back.
I agree 100% with RV. I am worried.
https://tv.gab.com/channel/destroyingtheillusion/view/the-tide-is-turning-aint-614b721f3a2144b6e7f2da7a
Quote from: esbad63 on September 21, 2021, 06:19:47 PMI am not going to lie. I am terrified about what has occurred over the past 8 months. Nothing is done on accident. Today the bald headed lunatic told the American people that the plan at the border was working. We just brought into this country God knows who from Afghanistan. Plane after plane after plane full and now we know many have left the bases where they "WERE" being housed.
We are in danger. Today it is a fact that we have more terrorists working inside our borders than ever before. We also have a government pushing a GLOBAL ECONOMY in which the taxpayer puts the world on its back.
I agree 100% with RV. I am worried.
I'm not. Here's how I see it:
The issues that are hot-button are topical. For example, the flood of border-jumpers is bad, and when you see that massive number of people concentrated together and invading, it can be infuriating. However, a simple policy change and they're removed. There's nothing deep and lasting with them. If you can get past the visuals, it's just a bunch more people we need to deport.
Stuff that has been deeply entrenched, however, is being uprooted, good and bad. Our election system was far worse than we could have imagined. That's being exposed, and once we get to the other side of that, every single issue you're worried about goes away.
Roe V. Wade is on the table. That's a deeply entrenched one that's being chipped away, and if it gets repealed or not, it's being challenged. More people are learning about how the Republican Party works and are joining
The media has been deeply entrenched, but COVID has a higher approval rating than they do. NOBODY trusts the media, and that, in turn, has spawned a new wave of independent journalists and researchers. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc. have been exposed, spawning Telegram, Rumble, Gab, Bitchute, etc.
The shit the FBI has been pulling over the years has been completely exposed. It goes on and on, but all of this HAD TO HAPPEN. In no universe were we going to take power back from the globalist Marxists and have it be smooth sailing or have no fight. The fact they're going all out, like in Australia, proves they're all out of plays, so it's hail-Mary time for them.
The fact we're in this situation is very important, and I wish more people would embrace it. Steer into it. Our fathers and grandfathers went to war, stormed beaches, lost limbs, etc. We can get through this I'm pretty sure.
Great post Taxed.
Thank you !!
Quote from: taxed on September 22, 2021, 10:09:47 PMI'm not. Here's how I see it:
The issues that are hot-button are topical. For example, the flood of border-jumpers is bad, and when you see that massive number of people concentrated together and invading, it can be infuriating. However, a simple policy change and they're removed. There's nothing deep and lasting with them. If you can get past the visuals, it's just a bunch more people we need to deport.
Stuff that has been deeply entrenched, however, is being uprooted, good and bad. Our election system was far worse than we could have imagined. That's being exposed, and once we get to the other side of that, every single issue you're worried about goes away.
Roe V. Wade is on the table. That's a deeply entrenched one that's being chipped away, and if it gets repealed or not, it's being challenged. More people are learning about how the Republican Party works and are joining
The media has been deeply entrenched, but COVID has a higher approval rating than they do. NOBODY trusts the media, and that, in turn, has spawned a new wave of independent journalists and researchers. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc. have been exposed, spawning Telegram, Rumble, Gab, Bitchute, etc.
The shit the FBI has been pulling over the years has been completely exposed. It goes on and on, but all of this HAD TO HAPPEN. In no universe were we going to take power back from the globalist Marxists and have it be smooth sailing or have no fight. The fact they're going all out, like in Australia, proves they're all out of plays, so it's hail-Mary time for them.
The fact we're in this situation is very important, and I wish more people would embrace it. Steer into it. Our fathers and grandfathers went to war, stormed beaches, lost limbs, etc. We can get through this I'm pretty sure.
Thank you.
I am optimistic the Biden administration is a wake up call to Americans. We are so comfortable, due to our system and freedom, that we become complacent in some generations. It is time for Americans to pay attention and take action at the polls. People just need to ignore the politicians and media and make their own decisions.
Quote from: taxed on September 22, 2021, 10:09:47 PMI'm not. Here's how I see it:
The issues that are hot-button are topical. For example, the flood of border-jumpers is bad, and when you see that massive number of people concentrated together and invading, it can be infuriating. However, a simple policy change and they're removed. There's nothing deep and lasting with them. If you can get past the visuals, it's just a bunch more people we need to deport.
Stuff that has been deeply entrenched, however, is being uprooted, good and bad. Our election system was far worse than we could have imagined. That's being exposed, and once we get to the other side of that, every single issue you're worried about goes away.
Roe V. Wade is on the table. That's a deeply entrenched one that's being chipped away, and if it gets repealed or not, it's being challenged. More people are learning about how the Republican Party works and are joining
The media has been deeply entrenched, but COVID has a higher approval rating than they do. NOBODY trusts the media, and that, in turn, has spawned a new wave of independent journalists and researchers. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc. have been exposed, spawning Telegram, Rumble, Gab, Bitchute, etc.
The shit the FBI has been pulling over the years has been completely exposed. It goes on and on, but all of this HAD TO HAPPEN. In no universe were we going to take power back from the globalist Marxists and have it be smooth sailing or have no fight. The fact they're going all out, like in Australia, proves they're all out of plays, so it's hail-Mary time for them.
The fact we're in this situation is very important, and I wish more people would embrace it. Steer into it. Our fathers and grandfathers went to war, stormed beaches, lost limbs, etc. We can get through this I'm pretty sure.
Well said!
It's like we've been saying this entire time. "We're witnessing history Front Row Center, Embrace It!!!"
Personally, I'm loving it, it's akin to riding the scariest ride in the world, while everyone on the ride is screaming and cringing and demanding it stop while heaving out their guts, you and I have been waiting for the big climb to the top for the climatic fall of Marxist movement worldwide.
Granted, it's been a Hell of a ride, it's nearly over, and the ending will make up for all the twists and turns...
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 23, 2021, 07:24:13 AMThank you.
I am optimistic the Biden administration is a wake up call to Americans. We are so comfortable, due to our system and freedom, that we become complacent in some generations. It is time for Americans to pay attention and take action at the polls. People just need to ignore the politicians and media and make their own decisions.
I can't wait for the day when some idiot brings up "Global Warming" and gets literally humiliated.
People have woken up, they've finally made the connections to all the Marxists ideas connecting it to the media, DNC, Marxists worldwide.
People see the CCP demanding one system for us, while they do the exact opposite, what remains is just a facade the left keeps up, and they are the only ones who think they are fooling everyone else.
A question I've been trying to wrap my mind around is, what happens to the likes of CNN etc. when all is said and done?
Their business model is shot. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 23, 2021, 07:24:13 AMThank you.
I am optimistic the Biden administration is a wake up call to Americans. We are so comfortable, due to our system and freedom, that we become complacent in some generations. It is time for Americans to pay attention and take action at the polls. People just need to ignore the politicians and media and make their own decisions.
The decades of presidents ignoring illegals and allowing illegal aliens to stream across the border taking jobs, educational funds, social services, health services, etc. WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
The DNC's attacks on Barron Trump (a mere child at the time), WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
The fact that 80 - 90% of MSM coverage of President Trump and his family was negative rather than factual, WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
Right so, Nancy Pelosi tearing up the speech after President Trump's state of the union speech WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
The fact that all of the precincts stopped counting at the exact same time, WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
The fact that the corrupt courts wouldn't even look at the mountains of evidence and witness statements in the election fraud cases, WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
But, NOW you think that having a Commie installed in the WH will somehow be a "wake up call for Americans"?
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 23, 2021, 07:24:13 AMThank you.
I am optimistic the Biden administration is a wake up call to Americans. We are so comfortable, due to our system and freedom, that we become complacent in some generations. It is time for Americans to pay attention and take action at the polls. People just need to ignore the politicians and media and make their own decisions.
Ain't that the damn truth!!
Quote from: Solar on September 23, 2021, 07:27:59 AMWell said!
It's like we've been saying this entire time. "We're witnessing history Front Row Center, Embrace It!!!"
Personally, I'm loving it, it's akin to riding the scariest ride in the world, while everyone on the ride is screaming and cringing and demanding it stop while heaving out their guts, you and I have been waiting for the big climb to the top for the climatic fall of Marxist movement worldwide.
Granted, it's been a Hell of a ride, it's nearly over, and the ending will make up for all the twists and turns...
It's like in the movies when there's a big brawl and shootout with the townspeople vs the intruders, and they end up running them out of town...
Quote from: RV on September 23, 2021, 01:31:44 PMThe decades of presidents ignoring illegals and allowing illegal aliens to stream across the border taking jobs, educational funds, social services, health services, etc. WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
The DNC's attacks on Barron Trump (a mere child at the time), WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
The fact that 80 - 90% of MSM coverage of President Trump and his family was negative rather than factual, WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
Right so, Nancy Pelosi tearing up the speech after President Trump's state of the union speech WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
The fact that all of the precincts stopped counting at the exact same time, WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
The fact that the corrupt courts wouldn't even look at the mountains of evidence and witness statements in the election fraud cases, WASN'T a "wake up call to Americans"?
But, NOW you think that having a Commie installed in the WH will somehow be a "wake up call for Americans"?
Negativity is not a solution.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 24, 2021, 04:48:12 AMNegativity is not a solution.
I agree! Who is that is being negative?
Quote from: RV on September 24, 2021, 05:02:57 AMI agree! Who is that is being negative?
I perceived your post as negative.
Quote from: taxed on September 23, 2021, 11:32:28 PMIt's like in the movies when there's a big brawl and shootout with the townspeople vs the intruders, and they end up running them out of town...
Yep, classic! "Get A Rope!"
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 24, 2021, 05:16:31 AMI perceived your post as negative.
If you INTERPRET facts as "negative" then that is YOUR opinion and YOUR opinion alone. I am merely stating FACTS. Unless you have proof that those facts listed are not facts but, propaganda...
If Solar's comment that "we all do" is INTERPRETED as "negative" than I guess y'all should feast on the lies and propaganda that the MSM pumps out.
As for me, I will focus on TRUTH and REALITY regardless of how folks INTERPRET those things.
Quote from: RV on September 24, 2021, 07:52:20 AMIf you INTERPRET facts as "negative" then that is YOUR opinion and YOUR opinion alone. I am merely stating FACTS. Unless you have proof that those facts listed are not facts but, propaganda...
If Solar's comment that "we all do" is INTERPRETED as "negative" than I guess y'all should feast on the lies and propaganda that the MSM pumps out.
As for me, I will focus on TRUTH and REALITY regardless of how folks INTERPRET those things.
Just a little feedback, take it or leave it. You have a ton of information, I enjoy reading most of what you have to say. But there are times where I feel your message is one of defeat and we should be ready to just cash it all in and wait for the end of the world. God gave us his son, and life. Our message should always be one of hope, of seeing the good we can accomplish and knowing that there are things worth fighting for. We are the luckiest people on earth, we have faith in God and he gave us a great nation to live in. Lets not lose it.
Quote from: RV on September 24, 2021, 07:52:20 AMIf you INTERPRET facts as "negative" then that is YOUR opinion and YOUR opinion alone. I am merely stating FACTS. Unless you have proof that those facts listed are not facts but, propaganda...
If Solar's comment that "we all do" is INTERPRETED as "negative" than I guess y'all should feast on the lies and propaganda that the MSM pumps out.
As for me, I will focus on TRUTH and REALITY regardless of how folks INTERPRET those things.
Obviously your reality is different than that of the majority, but that's alright, we have it covered.
Quote from: RV on September 24, 2021, 07:52:20 AMIf you INTERPRET facts as "negative" then that is YOUR opinion and YOUR opinion alone. I am merely stating FACTS. Unless you have proof that those facts listed are not facts but, propaganda...
If Solar's comment that "we all do" is INTERPRETED as "negative" than I guess y'all should feast on the lies and propaganda that the MSM pumps out.
As for me, I will focus on TRUTH and REALITY regardless of how folks INTERPRET those things.
My opinion is that your opinion is colored by being surrounded by leftists in your everyday life outside of this forum. I think you must have environmental pressures leading you to these opinions.
All those bad things you listed were indeed facts, but that they didnt wake up americans I dont believe is a fact.
You have to admit that many many more are awake now than were even 10 years ago, much less 20 or 30 years ago.
Quote from: T Hunt on September 24, 2021, 01:04:15 PMMy opinion is that your opinion is colored by being surrounded by leftists in your everyday life outside of this forum. I think you must have environmental pressures leading you to these opinions.
All those bad things you listed were indeed facts, but that they didnt wake up americans I dont believe is a fact.
You have to admit that many many more are awake now than were even 10 years ago, much less 20 or 30 years ago.
So, let me get this straight... You believe that the facts I listed DID "wake up Americans"? So that would mean that your comment was a deliberate lie. If those facts DIDN'T "wake up Americans" then you believe that it's going to happen someday, somehow and you believe the Marxist who was installed into the WH is what will hopefully "wake up" America?
Boy have I got a bridge and some swampland to sell you!
Quote from: RV on September 24, 2021, 04:43:58 PMSo, let me get this straight... You believe that the facts I listed DID "wake up Americans"? So that would mean that your comment was a deliberate lie. If those facts DIDN'T "wake up Americans" then you believe that it's going to happen someday, somehow and you believe the Marxist who was installed into the WH is what will hopefully "wake up" America?
Boy have I got a bridge and some swampland to sell you!
Ok back up, how did I lie?
Im saying that america has been woken up to a large degree and that they are continuing to wake up more and more every day.
Thats not what will remove biden tho, he will be removed thru the normal process of decertification.
Quote from: T Hunt on September 24, 2021, 05:10:01 PMOk back up, how did I lie?
Im saying that america has been woken up to a large degree and that they are continuing to wake up more and more every day.
Thats not what will remove biden tho, he will be removed thru the normal process of decertification.
Let's be clear. If people have not woke up by all of the facts that I have listed, how are they suddenly going to wake up now? If they have woke up, then how did all of these facts happen?
You cannot have it both ways. Either people have already "woke up" which creates all sorts of questions in my mind or they haven't yet, which also creates all sorts of questions in my mind.
Facts are neither positive nor negative. Fact statements are based on reality of what has actually occurred. How one views them, perceives them, analyzes them or interprets them can be positive or negative but, the facts themselves are not changed.
How did you lie? I'm not sure. If you knowingly labeled me as "pessimistic" but, also said that what I stated as facts were, that is dishonest. If I misrepresented something or stated something as fact that wasn't THEN I would be putting a "pessimistic" spin on things.
To the best of my knowledge, I was keeping in the vain of facts, truth and reality as is supposed to be the tenet of this website. That is why I offered you the opportunity to provide proof of where I had stated something as fact that was not. You then stated that everything I had posted in my comment was a fact yet you tried to claim that those facts were "pessimistic" or negative. I say again, facts are neither positive nor negative whether you like them or not.
Quote from: Possum on September 24, 2021, 09:49:05 AMJust a little feedback, take it or leave it. You have a ton of information, I enjoy reading most of what you have to say. But there are times where I feel your message is one of defeat and we should be ready to just cash it all in and wait for the end of the world. God gave us his son, and life. Our message should always be one of hope, of seeing the good we can accomplish and knowing that there are things worth fighting for. We are the luckiest people on earth, we have faith in God and he gave us a great nation to live in. Lets not lose it.
As I've said many times, my hope lies in Jesus Christ, what He did, the crown that was jammed on His head, the cross He hung on. I am sorry that you view my comments as negative, hopeless or giving up. I am only stating what scripture says repeatedly about humans as being sinful, selfish and evil continually. I am merely stating fact and relating that our problems were not created by humans and so will not be solved by humans. (i.e. Politicians are human)
I do not feel that the facts I have stated are negative, in fact they give me great hope that the rapture will happen soon. Whether I will live to see it or not is something that the Lord knows and I do not.
I read quite a lot of positive comments on this site as I see things continually getting worse. I've always lived by the motto, "Hope for the best but, plan for the worst." One thing I have learned is that ones opponent should never be underestimated.
I wish that President Trump would return and that prices would go down, foreign policy would improve, law enforcement and the military would regain the respect that they once had, the presidential election would have been fair and honest, the deficit wasn't as high as it is, etc., etc., etc. but, that is not reality.
I have stated facts, I can't help that those facts are not agreeable with many on this site. As I've told others, facts are facts and are neither positive nor negative.
I think you all are defining RV's CONCERN as negativity.
The facts are that OUR BURDEN and his race baiting Administration is in control until at least November of 2022. We need something in the form of a miracle to occur for this Administration to be removed before then.
WE THE PEOPLE need Joe Manchin to stand tall and prevent the bankrupting of America. The 3.5T is a lie. It is more like 10-12T and included MONTHLY payments for every illegal that has entered the country. $600 and $300 per child. Do the math. It is staggering how much debt they are willing to pile on for ILLEGALS.
I will remain concerned with RV until this grand plan you speak of (which I pray for every day) comes to fruition.
Quote from: RV on September 24, 2021, 06:54:47 PMLet's be clear. If people have not woke up by all of the facts that I have listed, how are they suddenly going to wake up now? If they have woke up, then how did all of these facts happen?
You cannot have it both ways. Either people have already "woke up" which creates all sorts of questions in my mind or they haven't yet, which also creates all sorts of questions in my mind.
Facts are neither positive nor negative. Fact statements are based on reality of what has actually occurred. How one views them, perceives them, analyzes them or interprets them can be positive or negative but, the facts themselves are not changed.
How did you lie? I'm not sure. If you knowingly labeled me as "pessimistic" but, also said that what I stated as facts were, that is dishonest. If I misrepresented something or stated something as fact that wasn't THEN I would be putting a "pessimistic" spin on things.
To the best of my knowledge, I was keeping in the vain of facts, truth and reality as is supposed to be the tenet of this website. That is why I offered you the opportunity to provide proof of where I had stated something as fact that was not. You then stated that everything I had posted in my comment was a fact yet you tried to claim that those facts were "pessimistic" or negative. I say again, facts are neither positive nor negative whether you like them or not.
1, Im not having it 'both ways' its a process, on a scale. More and more are being woke up and people have gradually been waking up over time. Its not like a person is just suddenly woken up, its a gradual process that takes time. I have one friend that accepts that biden cheated and trump really won and we shld decertify, but he still thinks covid is totally real and dangerous to all. He is awake on one issue, not the other.
2, As for your statement being pessemistic, I am talking about the opinion part of your claim.
You stated a bunch of
facts, which I think I agreed with, and they you added
your opinion, which someone said was pessimistic(not sure if I used that term or someone else).
Quote from: T Hunt on September 24, 2021, 10:59:15 PM1, Im not having it 'both ways' its a process, on a scale. More and more are being woke up and people have gradually been waking up over time. Its not like a person is just suddenly woken up, its a gradual process that takes time. I have one friend that accepts that biden cheated and trump really won and we shld decertify, but he still thinks covid is totally real and dangerous to all. He is awake on one issue, not the other.
2, As for your statement being pessemistic, I am talking about the opinion part of your claim.
You stated a bunch of facts, which I think I agreed with, and they you added your opinion, which someone said was pessimistic(not sure if I used that term or someone else).
What I find interesting is, I have talked to hundreds just like him, but when you lay out the fact that most of what has taken place, is superficial, no actual law has been passed, most are either EO, or blown out of proportion.
Point being, it's mostly attitudinal. If one doesn't watch TV or consume the "News", nothing much has changed.
It's the illusion their media creates, an image of doom and gloom if you still believe America can return to its culture of yesteryear.
The left has done all things possible to make people believe that all whites are racist, that all blacks want to burn down your towns, that thugs roaming the streets under the guise of anti fascists' have a legitimate beef. All lies, they want you scared, and RV swallowed the lie, it is now his reality.
But if one lives outside the confines of a liberal shithole, they see none of this, only the perception their media creates.
I'm guessing RV lives in one of these Marxist run shitholes which consists of about 5$ of the US, while the media purports it to be 65% of the US. Only those susceptible to the lefts message will lose all hope.
Arguing with someone like this is hopeless, so remember, when we win, rub it in their face. :smile:
Quote from: Solar on September 25, 2021, 06:02:12 AMWhat I find interesting is, I have talked to hundreds just like him, but when you lay out the fact that most of what has taken place, is superficial, no actual law has been passed, most are either EO, or blown out of proportion.
Point being, it's mostly attitudinal. If one doesn't watch TV or consume the "News", nothing much has changed.
It's the illusion their media creates, an image of doom and gloom if you still believe America can return to its culture of yesteryear.
The left has done all things possible to make people believe that all whites are racist, that all blacks want to burn down your towns, that thugs roaming the streets under the guise of anti fascists' have a legitimate beef. All lies, they want you scared, and RV swallowed the lie, it is now his reality.
But if one lives outside the confines of a liberal shithole, they see none of this, only the perception their media creates.
I'm guessing RV lives in one of these Marxist run shitholes which consists of about 5$ of the US, while the media purports it to be 65% of the US. Only those susceptible to the lefts message will lose all hope.
Arguing with someone like this is hopeless, so remember, when we win, rub it in their face. :smile:
:thumbup: :thumbup: Nothing has been done that the democrats can be proud of. Everything they are attempting is not to help anyone. Want proof, when asked what is the democrat party doing to help minorities, our resident liberal could not name one.
Quote from: Possum on September 25, 2021, 06:47:00 AM:thumbup: :thumbup: Nothing has been done that the democrats can be proud of. Everything they are attempting is not to help anyone. Want proof, when asked what is the democrat party doing to help minorities, our resident liberal could not name one.
So true, all they've done is exploit those on the govt dole.
Solar and taxed, to me, seem to be overly optimistic. RV strikes me as being too pessimistic. I think that reality is somewhere in between.
Last winter, Solar was sure that the election would be rectified on or before January 20. I hoped that it would be, but was disappointed when it didn't happen. I still think there is hope of rectifying it before November 2022.
People ARE waking up to how corrupt the rulers are. But it's still happening more slowly than it should. Solar and taxed seem to be very confident that We the People will overcome the evildoers. RV seems to think that only the actual return of Jesus will bring that victory. I think that RV might be right about that. But I also think that, when Jesus returns, he expects to see us still trying!
RV has referred to the rapture several times. There are people out there who say that the rapture is a false doctrine, deliberately planted in the churches by the socialists. They did it to pacify and neutralize the sort of Christians who conducted the American Revolution. There is recorded history to confirm that. Scofield was a major player in that scam.
I think that the only "rapture" we're going to get is when we are made to lay down our lives for Christ. THAT'S how determined we have to be! This battle is going to be A LOT harder than many people think. As I've said in a previous post (http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/america-escaping-our-violent-abuser/), the left is like an abusive boyfriend. They are OBSESSED with power! They will exterminate every last human on Earth before they relinquish power! But THEY are the ones who will be exterminated! Whether it happens before or after Jesus returns, it WILL happen!
I don't want to get locked into a debate on when what will happen. In spite of our diverse views about that, we are all pulling in the same general direction. Victory is truly ours! Even though some or all of us might have to pay the ultimate price. God WILL win this war! Our job is to help as many people as possible to get on the right side. Like the bumper sticker says, "Jesus is coming soon! Look busy!"
Quote from: je_freedom on September 25, 2021, 07:13:08 PMSolar and taxed, to me, seem to be overly optimistic. RV strikes me as being too pessimistic. I think that reality is somewhere in between.
Last winter, Solar was sure that the election would be rectified on or before January 20. I hoped that it would be, but was disappointed when it didn't happen. I still think there is hope of rectifying it before November 2022.
People ARE waking up to how corrupt the rulers are. But it's still happening more slowly than it should. Solar and taxed seem to be very confident that We the People will overcome the evildoers. RV seems to think that only the actual return of Jesus will bring that victory. I think that RV might be right about that. But I also think that, when Jesus returns, he expects to see us still trying!
RV has referred to the rapture several times. There are people out there who say that the rapture is a false doctrine, deliberately planted in the churches by the socialists. They did it to pacify and neutralize the sort of Christians who conducted the American Revolution. There is recorded history to confirm that. Scofield was a major player in that scam.
I think that the only "rapture" we're going to get is when we are made to lay down our lives for Christ. THAT'S how determined we have to be! This battle is going to be A LOT harder than many people think. As I've said in a previous post (http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/america-escaping-our-violent-abuser/), the left is like an abusive boyfriend. They are OBSESSED with power! They will exterminate every last human on Earth before they relinquish power! But THEY are the ones who will be exterminated! Whether it happens before or after Jesus returns, it WILL happen!
I don't want to get locked into a debate on when what will happen. In spite of our diverse views about that, we are all pulling in the same general direction. Victory is truly ours! Even though some or all of us might have to pay the ultimate price. God WILL win this war! Our job is to help as many people as possible to get on the right side. Like the bumper sticker says, "Jesus is coming soon! Look busy!"
Folks, even though Je just derailed the thread, lets keep it on topic, I don't want to move it to the religion forum.
Quote from: je_freedom on September 25, 2021, 07:13:08 PMSolar and taxed, to me, seem to be overly optimistic. RV strikes me as being too pessimistic. I think that reality is somewhere in between.
Last winter, Solar was sure that the election would be rectified on or before January 20. I hoped that it would be, but was disappointed when it didn't happen. I still think there is hope of rectifying it before November 2022.
I thought it would be as well, but that doesn't mean the battle to take back our election system and republic doesn't happen. When I said that Trump was taking the enemy into deep waters, I didn't realize how right I was. In retrospect, again, we had to get here. Think about what we learned about the depth of the enemy's control of our elections. If they handed it to Trump, we wouldn't have been able to dig into this because nobody would believe it.
QuotePeople ARE waking up to how corrupt the rulers are. But it's still happening more slowly than it should.
I really don't think it's happening slower than it should. People are having to re-evaluate everything they know, and that takes time. The frog has to be unboiled as fast as it was slow-boiled.
QuoteSolar and taxed seem to be very confident that We the People will overcome the evildoers.
We are overcoming.
Quote from: je_freedom on September 25, 2021, 07:13:08 PMSolar and taxed, to me, seem to be overly optimistic. RV strikes me as being too pessimistic. I think that reality is somewhere in between.
Last winter, Solar was sure that the election would be rectified on or before January 20. I hoped that it would be, but was disappointed when it didn't happen. I still think there is hope of rectifying it before November 2022.
People ARE waking up to how corrupt the rulers are. But it's still happening more slowly than it should. Solar and taxed seem to be very confident that We the People will overcome the evildoers. RV seems to think that only the actual return of Jesus will bring that victory. I think that RV might be right about that. But I also think that, when Jesus returns, he expects to see us still trying!
RV has referred to the rapture several times. There are people out there who say that the rapture is a false doctrine, deliberately planted in the churches by the socialists. They did it to pacify and neutralize the sort of Christians who conducted the American Revolution. There is recorded history to confirm that. Scofield was a major player in that scam.
I think that the only "rapture" we're going to get is when we are made to lay down our lives for Christ. THAT'S how determined we have to be! This battle is going to be A LOT harder than many people think. As I've said in a previous post (http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/america-escaping-our-violent-abuser/), the left is like an abusive boyfriend. They are OBSESSED with power! They will exterminate every last human on Earth before they relinquish power! But THEY are the ones who will be exterminated! Whether it happens before or after Jesus returns, it WILL happen!
I don't want to get locked into a debate on when what will happen. In spite of our diverse views about that, we are all pulling in the same general direction. Victory is truly ours! Even though some or all of us might have to pay the ultimate price. God WILL win this war! Our job is to help as many people as possible to get on the right side. Like the bumper sticker says, "Jesus is coming soon! Look busy!"
First off, I have never said that people should stop trying to bring back law and order. That is something that keeps surfacing but, it's not something I have ever said, intimated, inferred or commented.
Secondly, the rapture happens BEFORE Jesus returns. If you would read the Bible you'd know that.
Last but not least, I have also said many times that humans are selfish, self-centered and evil. That is common knowledge and also listed many times in scripture. The rapture happening IS positive for a believe but, not so much for an unbeliever. No matter who is installed or elected, this mess will not be completely corrected until the Lord restores order at the second coming, that is a fact not an assumption nor wishful thinking. It was for this same reason that the Lord caused the Earth to be flooded...
Many people who claim to be christians use the same mentality to excuse their non-witness. It isn't biblical, it isn't scriptural and it's not what Christians are exhorted to do. I believe that it's something like "go into all the world spreading the gospel..."
In the end, I don't worry about what people say. My job on Earth is to do what God says rather than man. They hated Jesus and they'll hate anyone who follows Him.
Quote from: je_freedom on September 25, 2021, 07:13:08 PMLast winter, Solar was sure that the election would be rectified on or before January 20.
Can you actually quote me on that? It needs to be qualified.
Quote from: taxed on September 22, 2021, 10:09:47 PMI'm not. Here's how I see it:
The issues that are hot-button are topical. For example, the flood of border-jumpers is bad, and when you see that massive number of people concentrated together and invading, it can be infuriating. However, a simple policy change and they're removed. There's nothing deep and lasting with them. If you can get past the visuals, it's just a bunch more people we need to deport.
Stuff that has been deeply entrenched, however, is being uprooted, good and bad. Our election system was far worse than we could have imagined. That's being exposed, and once we get to the other side of that, every single issue you're worried about goes away.
Roe V. Wade is on the table. That's a deeply entrenched one that's being chipped away, and if it gets repealed or not, it's being challenged. More people are learning about how the Republican Party works and are joining
The media has been deeply entrenched, but COVID has a higher approval rating than they do. NOBODY trusts the media, and that, in turn, has spawned a new wave of independent journalists and researchers. Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, etc. have been exposed, spawning Telegram, Rumble, Gab, Bitchute, etc.
The shit the FBI has been pulling over the years has been completely exposed. It goes on and on, but all of this HAD TO HAPPEN. In no universe were we going to take power back from the globalist Marxists and have it be smooth sailing or have no fight. The fact they're going all out, like in Australia, proves they're all out of plays, so it's hail-Mary time for them.
The fact we're in this situation is very important, and I wish more people would embrace it. Steer into it. Our fathers and grandfathers went to war, stormed beaches, lost limbs, etc. We can get through this I'm pretty sure.
Exactly Taxed....I think of it this way...before the internet went viral we were at the mercy of the liberal media. Think of it like the lights are out in a roach (democrat party) infested Bronx apartment. The lights get turned on (places like CPF) and now we see all the degusting filthy roaches (democrat party) running all over the damn place. Now its time to get the exterminator (elections) and wipeout the filth.
Anyone else notice how aggressive the GOP has been about the Az audits?
Yeah, me either, not one damn peep from those scum!!! :sneaky:
Quote from: Solar on September 26, 2021, 06:55:22 AMAnyone else notice how aggressive the GOP has been about the Az audits?
Yeah, me either, not one damn peep from those scum!!! :sneaky:
Except from the Az republican governor. He said he will NOT decertify the fraud Az election. Admitting the election in Az was fraud.
As a follow-up, I have heard some unbelievers who viewed the rapture as positive as it would take the Christians out of their way. There are some people who would like to see all "religion", all "belief" and anything that even resembles "God" out of society and out of people's lives. These folks believe that an amoral society would be "better". Most of these are Marxists and/or Communists but, it is what some people believe.
Quote from: Bronx on September 26, 2021, 07:23:34 AMExcept from the Az republican governor. He said he will NOT decertify the fraud Az election. Admitting the election in Az was fraud.
I meant the GOP, they are mum on the entire thing, and they know it was fraud.
Proves just how big an enemy of the people the GOP has become.
Amen.
The GOP is not your friend and is worse than the marxist RAT party. At least the RATS make no bones about what they are, while the GOP is still wrapped in the conservative cloak. :cursing:
Quote from: tac on September 26, 2021, 06:16:41 PMAmen.
The GOP is not your friend and is worse than the marxist RAT party. At least the RATS make no bones about what they are, while the GOP is still wrapped in the conservative cloak. :cursing:
yeah, they're Fabian Socialists wrapped up alright. Wolf in sheep's clothing....
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Quote from: Bronx on September 26, 2021, 06:50:01 AMExactly Taxed....I think of it this way...before the internet went viral we were at the mercy of the liberal media. Think of it like the lights are out in a roach (democrat party) infested Bronx apartment. The lights get turned on (places like CPF) and now we see all the degusting filthy roaches (democrat party) running all over the damn place. Now its time to get the exterminator (elections) and wipeout the filth.
Absolutely!
Quote from: Solar on September 26, 2021, 06:55:22 AMAnyone else notice how aggressive the GOP has been about the Az audits?
Yeah, me either, not one damn peep from those scum!!! :sneaky:
Hell, they're still fighting against it...
Quote from: Bronx on September 26, 2021, 07:23:34 AMExcept from the Az republican governor. He said he will NOT decertify the fraud Az election. Admitting the election in Az was fraud.
I'm really glad he did that. He thinks he has more power than the legislature. He's just outing himself more and more.
https://twitter.com/AZKellyT/status/1441744539379589122
Quote from: tac on September 26, 2021, 06:16:41 PMAmen.
The GOP is not your friend and is worse than the marxist RAT party. At least the RATS make no bones about what they are, while the GOP is still wrapped in the conservative cloak. :cursing:
That's what's been so eye opening through this whole thing, and sort of exposes the social media influencers when they just pound on the Dems and give the GOP a pass.
WI - REPUBLICANS control the state legislature.
PA - REPUBLICANS control the state legislature.
GA - REPUBLICANS control the state legislature, Governor, AND SoS.
AZ - REPUBLICANS control the state legislature and Governor.
MI - REPUBLICANS control the state legislature.
We're winning the battle and advancing against the enemy, but the enemy has been the Republicans.
Quote from: taxed on September 26, 2021, 08:38:45 PMI'm really glad he did that. He thinks he has more power than the legislature. He's just outing himself more and more.
https://twitter.com/AZKellyT/status/1441744539379589122
Two options, recall, or prison...
I am wondering how concerned the membership is here about all that has been happening lately. I sure could use a dose of positivity. Part of me feels like this.....let it get so bad that We The People become the unbeatable force that we are. That said, this is fixing to get very, very bad, and quickly.
So what happens now? How much worse will things get before America is saved?
Quote from: esbad63 on October 29, 2021, 10:21:46 PMI am wondering how concerned the membership is here about all that has been happening lately. I sure could use a dose of positivity. Part of me feels like this.....let it get so bad that We The People become the unbeatable force that we are. That said, this is fixing to get very, very bad, and quickly.
So what happens now? How much worse will things get before America is saved?
I've never been more excited and confident for our country. What in particular are you worried about?
Quote from: esbad63 on October 29, 2021, 10:21:46 PMI am wondering how concerned the membership is here about all that has been happening lately. I sure could use a dose of positivity. Part of me feels like this.....let it get so bad that We The People become the unbeatable force that we are. That said, this is fixing to get very, very bad, and quickly.
So what happens now? How much worse will things get before America is saved?
Not one bit. Though, like many, I too am impatient, but because we're a Republic, we must adhere to our laws and Principles.
If we don't, we've lost our Republic and anarchy would ensue. All I can say is never ever turn on the news, you'll never get any truth, just well crafted opinions of the way they want you to "Feel" about our situation.
Keep one thing in mind. The left wants you in despair, they want you to give up, they want others to pick up arms and take to the streets.
What would that accomplish, as opposed to letting the law take its course?
Think about it for a moment, the thing about apathy and anger brings anarchy, leading to all out riots and civil war, the very thing the left wants.
This way they could accomplish their goal of a full on dictatorship.
They'd simply declare Martial Law and strip the people of all there God Given Rights.
Quote from: Solar on October 30, 2021, 04:19:16 AMNot one bit. Though, like many, I too am impatient, but because we're a Republic, we must adhere to our laws and Principles.
If we don't, we've lost our Republic and anarchy would ensue. All I can say is never ever turn on the news, you'll never get any truth, just well crafted opinions of the way they want you to "Feel" about our situation.
Keep one thing in mind. The left wants you in despair, they want you to give up, they want others to pick up arms and take to the streets.
What would that accomplish, as opposed to letting the law take its course?
Think about it for a moment, the thing about apathy and anger brings anarchy, leading to all out riots and civil war, the very thing the left wants.
This way they could accomplish their goal of a full on dictatorship.
They'd simply declare Martial Law and strip the people of all there God Given Rights.
Even one the point you highlighted I see hope. We have states that I have no doubt will declare they are no longer part of a criminal union should martial law be declared. In fact, I believe we have more states that will do so than the socialist have states they can count on. And those they can count on are the ones with their hand out. Biden has done one thing right, he has awakened the American public. I hope that Trump can get the message out, when you are winning don't do anything stupid.
The propaganda machine disguising itself as "the Media" wants us all to believe that the country is 50-50...HAH!
After the last few months the idiocy over COVID Mandates, The Debacle in Ghanny, open borders and in particular the rising gas prices which is raising the price on everything else is not sitting well with "We the People" including those few who voted for these Morons. At least From the grumblings Im hearing from "we the People" in the States of Virginia, West Virginia, Maryland and Pa. I'm seeing LOTS of Lets Go Brandon signs and F**K Joe Biden flags And Lots and LOTS of Trump Won, Trump 2024 etc" signs bumper stickers and flags. I think its more like 80 -20 in OUR Favor and GROWING, We the people are in an UGLY MOOD. the leftists "Media" and the Usurping administration knows it.
Thanks guys!
Let's get this election on Tuesday. To answer an earlier question, I am worried that the left will continue to steal elections. The GA runoffs were a joke and we all watched it happen after Trump got robbed.
LET'S KICK THE FIRST DEM TO THE CURB ON TUESDAY!
Quote from: esbad63 on October 30, 2021, 10:48:25 PMThanks guys!
Let's get this election on Tuesday. To answer an earlier question, I am worried that the left will continue to steal elections. The GA runoffs were a joke and we all watched it happen after Trump got robbed.
LET'S KICK THE FIRST DEM TO THE CURB ON TUESDAY!
They'll probably steal it for McAuliffe, but don't let that upset you if it does. It will suck for Virginians for another term, but the important thing is we're advancing towards taking the election system back, and Durham is circling, which is causing real terror among the deep-staters...
Saw Taxed looking at this thread from a few years back. Read and enjoy. Comment if you like, but remember, it's been while now, and sooooo much has changed in, Just One Day. :thumbsup: