Quote from: supsalemgr on February 21, 2016, 04:51:46 AM
It appears Rubio has barely edged out Cruz for second. Realistically, I think we must admit that Haley, Gowdy and Scott endorsements had a marginal impact, but enough to get Rubio into second. However, I also believe Cruz needs to reassess his campaign. A pattern of questionable tactics also appear to have hurt him. These negative aspects of his campaign are over shadowing all of his conservative credentials. He may actually benefit from Rubio edging him out in Sc in that Trump will now turn his guns on Rubio.

What Cruz did wasn't negative, how the media and RINO portrayed it is.
They just won the hype game that's all.

Quote from: keyboarder on February 20, 2016, 11:19:03 PM
Hard to believe that Haley, Gowdy and Scott all got in behind Rubio to win.  I thought they would have went for Cruz.  They have signed their out warrants as far as getting my votes when it's time to vote again.

I'm telling ya, these Establishment hacks would rather a lib take it than a Conservative.
It's sad when they hate Conservatives more than libs....

What happens after South Carolina

The Republican Nevada caucus is in a couple of days.

There are only a couple of recent polls for Nevada, that doesn't take into account what happened in SC last night.

Trump is leading by 20 points in those polls. Cruz and Rubio are fighting for second.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nv/nevada_republican_presidential_caucus-5336.html

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 21, 2016, 05:51:49 AM
Trump's just won two states with open primaries (GOP voters and independents but not Democrats.)

He has populist appeal.  Cruz does not.

Are you going to use the same ridiculous argument, the one the establishment media is offering up, each time Trump wins another state by double digits?

You might want to check your facts...an OPEN primary is one where Dems can vote in the GOP as well or vice versa!

Based on the fact that one third have bailed on the Marxist party and still love liberals, doesn't bode well for Cruz.
Lets just hope they aren't motivated enough to vote for the carpetbagger..

Quote from: Bowhntr on February 21, 2016, 06:13:37 AM
You might want to check your facts...an OPEN primary is one where Dems can vote in the GOP as well or vice versa!

Thank you for pointing that out. It is always advisable to know what you are talking about before you open your mouth.

Quote from: tac on February 21, 2016, 06:18:24 AM
Thank you for pointing that out. It is always advisable to know what you are talking about before you open your mouth.

reposting....

20% of Trump's voting block is Democrat, of 240,000, that's 46,000 votes by non-GOP.
Trump's negatives are 62% - with those high negatives, Trump pulled 194,000 GOP voters.

I'll go slow here, think about it... (averaging numbers)
Of the 690,000 GOP voters, 500,000 votes were NOT for Donald Trump.

28% Trump
24% Rubio
24% Cruz
24% Jeb, Kasich, Carson (each was 8%)

Before anyone gets all excited about a "Trump Landslide", remember if any ONE of the lower tier candidates had dropped out - Rubio or Cruz would have won.

"Oh, but Trump still won!  rah, rah, rah"
...Jeb? just dropped out.  Kasich and Carson are probably going soon too - the $ well is dry.

It's FAR from over, Donald Romney Trump is in trouble, he doesn't have the GOP base.

Quote from: Hoofer on February 21, 2016, 06:55:57 AM
reposting....

20% of Trump's voting block is Democrat, of 240,000, that's 46,000 votes by non-GOP.
Trump's negatives are 62% - with those high negatives, Trump pulled 194,000 GOP voters.

I'll go slow here, think about it... (averaging numbers)
Of the 690,000 GOP voters, 500,000 votes were NOT for Donald Trump.

28% Trump
24% Rubio
24% Cruz
24% Jeb, Kasich, Carson (each was 8%)

Before anyone gets all excited about a "Trump Landslide", remember if any ONE of the lower tier candidates had dropped out - Rubio or Cruz would have won.

"Oh, but Trump still won!  rah, rah, rah"
...Jeb? just dropped out.  Kasich and Carson are probably going soon too - the $ well is dry.

It's FAR from over, Donald Romney Trump is in trouble, he doesn't have the GOP base.

Lets just hope the Establishment doesn't invest in their campaigns because a Conservative Cruz ticket to them is worse that a Trump lib ticket.
That's how much I distrust the GOP'e.

Quote from: Solar on February 21, 2016, 05:52:29 AM
What Cruz did wasn't negative, how the media and RINO portrayed it is.
They just won the hype game that's all.

Agreed. However, the dogs ate the dog food.

If Cruz Rubio and Kasich  all remain in, this might lead to a brokered convention.  Of course without Kasich the same thing might still apply.

Quote from: redsun on February 21, 2016, 08:05:12 AM
If Cruz Rubio and Kasich  all remain in, this might lead to a brokered convention.  Of course without Kasich the same thing might still apply.

The race is state by state and by delegate count.  I think the winner needs about 1237 to win.  So far Trump has 60.

Of course each state has different rules on how the apply those delegates.

Does anyone know if we do the Super-delegate thing like the Democrats do?  Hillary is way ahead of Sanders. 

Quote from: supsalemgr on February 21, 2016, 04:51:46 AM
It appears Rubio has barely edged out Cruz for second. Realistically, I think we must admit that Haley, Gowdy and Scott endorsements had a marginal impact, but enough to get Rubio into second. However, I also believe Cruz needs to reassess his campaign. A pattern of questionable tactics also appear to have hurt him. These negative aspects of his campaign are over shadowing all of his conservative credentials. He may actually benefit from Rubio edging him out in Sc in that Trump will now turn his guns on Rubio.

You allude to what is becoming ever-more obvious in retrospect...  Cruz and the others should've immediately began slamming Trump last Summer.  They let him get started.

It was just an 'unwitting mistake' based on assumptions he'd eventually flop. 

However, the Primaries are far from over.  Cruz is the only candidate smart enough to overcome Trump's momentum, but he can't dally-around.     

Quote from: Bowhntr on February 21, 2016, 06:13:37 AM
You might want to check your facts...an OPEN primary is one where Dems can vote in the GOP as well or vice versa!

Not in NH it's not.  An open primary is where Independents can vote in either primary.  Dems cannot vote in GOP primary or vide versa.

I suggest you get your facts straight.

Also, the Dem race is very close.  Common sense dictates that most of the Dems in Sc voted in the Dem primary not the GOP one.

So my statement stands, the the two states Trump just won he did so with mostly votes from GOP voters and registered independents.

Quote from: Coolidge23 on February 21, 2016, 09:05:28 AM
Not in NH it's not.  An open primary is where Independents can vote in either primary.  Dems cannot vote in GOP primary or vide versa.

I suggest you get your facts straight.

Also, the Dem race is very close.  Common sense dictates that most of the Dems in Sc voted in the Dem primary not the GOP one.

So my statement stands, the the two states Trump just one he did so with mostly votes from GOP voters and registered independents.

No it's not, NH is a hybrid primary, also known as a semi-closed primary.
Look it up.
And Trump Won it, not "one" it and those so called Independents were majority libs that bailed on the Dim party.

Quote from: Solar on February 21, 2016, 09:17:29 AM
No it's not, NH is a hybrid primary, also known as a semi-closed primary.
Look it up.
And Trump Won it, not "one" it and those so called Independents were majority libs that bailed on the Dim party.

I live in NH so I don't need to tell you about my primary.  It's as I described it and people, especially outside the state refer to it as an open primary.

That was a typo.