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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Solar on September 11, 2013, 05:25:32 AM

Title: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2013, 05:25:32 AM
One, he gave Putin carteblanche to do as he wants in the M/E, because Putin knows he's dealing with a complete amateur.

Putin will renew an old offer to supply Iran with five of the sophisticated ground-to-air missile systems at a meeting with Iranian President Hassan Rowhani on Friday, Kommersant said, quoting a souce close to the Kremlin.

Putin is set to meet Rowhani at a summit of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation held in Kyrgyzstan on Friday.

Russia in 2007 signed a contract to deliver five of the advanced ground-to-air weapons -- which can take out aircraft or guided missiles -- to Iran at a cost of $800 million.

In 2010, then-president Dmitry Medvedev cancelled the contract after coming under strong US and Israeli pressure not to go ahead with the sale of the weapons system, drawing vehement protests from Tehran.

http://www.france24.com/en/20130911-russia-renew-offer-supply-300s-iran (http://www.france24.com/en/20130911-russia-renew-offer-supply-300s-iran)
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: kopema on September 11, 2013, 06:50:36 AM
This is a net loss for Obama.  He doesn't hate Russia nearly as much as he does America and England, but if they're in charge of Syria that means the Muslim Brotherhood is not.

And Russia doesn't give weapons away for free.  If they're supplying missiles to Iran, that means they're also supporting a faction friendly to them and confirming Iran doesn't have nukes.

It's very sad that a step back toward the days of the Cold War is a good thing for America.  But that's where we are right now.
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on September 11, 2013, 11:41:50 AM
Well he wanted to take us down a peg and he has done that. Russia is the biggest player in the mid east and if Obama accepts the Russians terms on this WMD proposal Russia will have succeeded in keeping Assad in power, demoralizing the rebels and securing it's base there.
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: walkstall on September 11, 2013, 12:26:23 PM
Let see no ones talking about.....



A.)  Benghazi

B.)  The NSA's domestic spying program.

C.)  b o  healthcare

D.)  President and his wife vacations
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: Charliemyboy on September 11, 2013, 12:30:27 PM
I believe that Putin knows that the Muslim Brotherhood in control of another ME country would not be in the best interests of Russia.  Russia has it's own problems with Muslims in Chechnya and elsewhere, the most barbaric group on earth.  So, by propping up Assad, the Brotherhood does not get Syria, Russia gets to keep its warm water port, and Russia will step up to the spot as the most influenctial power in the ME. Baraq Obama has personally lost any credibility he might have had.  IMO Obama's ME policy is clearly a plot to install Muslim Brotherhood governments all over the ME.  Why? You might ask.  Because he's one of them.
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: Solar on September 11, 2013, 12:47:14 PM
Quote from: Charliemyboy on September 11, 2013, 12:30:27 PM
I believe that Putin knows that the Muslim Brotherhood in control of another ME country would not be in the best interests of Russia.  Russia has it's own problems with Muslims in Chechnya and elsewhere, the most barbaric group on earth.  So, by propping up Assad, the Brotherhood does not get Syria, Russia gets to keep its warm water port, and Russia will step up to the spot as the most influenctial power in the ME. Baraq Obama has personally lost any credibility he might have had.  IMO Obama's ME policy is clearly a plot to install Muslim Brotherhood governments all over the ME.  Why? You might ask.  Because he's one of them.
Bingo! What he accomplished was not for the US, but all for our enemies.
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: supsalemgr on September 11, 2013, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: Charliemyboy on September 11, 2013, 12:30:27 PM
I believe that Putin knows that the Muslim Brotherhood in control of another ME country would not be in the best interests of Russia.  Russia has it's own problems with Muslims in Chechnya and elsewhere, the most barbaric group on earth.  So, by propping up Assad, the Brotherhood does not get Syria, Russia gets to keep its warm water port, and Russia will step up to the spot as the most influenctial power in the ME. Baraq Obama has personally lost any credibility he might have had.  IMO Obama's ME policy is clearly a plot to install Muslim Brotherhood governments all over the ME.  Why? You might ask.  Because he's one of them.

Putin has made his position clear on radical Islamists. They are the enemy of Russia. Consequently those cowards understand he will kick their asses every chance he gets.
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: kit saginaw on September 11, 2013, 03:09:35 PM
Russia has coveted the concept of obtaining a 'warm weather port' since the last days of Stalin.   That's why they ventured into Afghanistan.   Easy access to the open seas.   Using that template, you can work backwards and puzzle-piece a lot of their geopolitical motivations, specifically with Iran and Syria. 
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: daidalos on September 12, 2013, 04:11:47 AM
Quote from: walkstall on September 11, 2013, 12:26:23 PM
Let see no ones talking about.....



A.)  Benghazi

B.)  The NSA's domestic spying program.

C.)  b o  healthcare

D.)  President and his wife vacations

Can anyone say "wag the dog"?

Good I knew you could.  :lol:
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: keyboarder on September 12, 2013, 05:58:39 AM
Quote from: Charliemyboy on September 11, 2013, 12:30:27 PM
I believe that Putin knows that the Muslim Brotherhood in control of another ME country would not be in the best interests of Russia.  Russia has it's own problems with Muslims in Chechnya and elsewhere, the most barbaric group on earth.  So, by propping up Assad, the Brotherhood does not get Syria, Russia gets to keep its warm water port, and Russia will step up to the spot as the most influenctial power in the ME. Baraq Obama has personally lost any credibility he might have had.  IMO Obama's ME policy is clearly a plot to install Muslim Brotherhood governments all over the ME.  Why? You might ask.  Because he's one of them.

I totally agree.
Title: Re: What Did Obama Accomplish With The Syria Conflict?
Post by: Frandia on September 12, 2013, 08:51:22 AM
The same thing he accomplishes in everything he involves himself in.  That being NOTHING.