http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/09/29/SoloPower-Another-Solyndra-in-Waiting

When will we taxpayers learn? The Government and these idiots in Congress and the Senate are not the answer!

We must win in 2012 to prosecute these assholes!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2012/08/120820-helix-wind-collapse/?utm_campaign=Feed%253A%20ng%252FNews%252FNews_Energy%20%2528National%20Geographic%20News%20-%20Energy%2529&utm_medium=feed&utm_source=feedburner

Another dumb idea being revived!

[i]"Why do we keep repeating the same mistakes?" asked small wind turbine builder and author Ian Woofenden.  "No vertical axis company has survived in the marketplace for any length of time. All long-term successful wind-electric manufacturers use horizontal axis designs. This is because they work."

Woofenden added that he is "baffled" by all the recent attention given to VAWTs by venture capitalists, inventors, and the media—all ignoring the warnings of "longtime experts in the industry." He added, "Making a viable wind turbine is a very difficult job. Starting out with a flawed design and flawed assumptions virtually guarantees failure. All of this is a distraction from the real wind industry, and a waste of resources [/i]

Greenies need kept on a farm in Nevada with their starving Mustangs!


http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/energy/2012/09/pictures/120928-upcoming-electric-cars-2012/


On Tuesday, Tesla disclosed that the company will be forced to raise at least $128 million and change the terms of its $465 million loan agreement with the U.S. Department of Energy. Deliveries of Tesla's second-generation car, the Model S sedan (priced from $58,570) have fallen at least a month behind schedule, and the Energy Department has granted a waiver for Tesla to delay next month's payment until February (the rest of the 10-year loan is to be repaid early).

As Cosmin Laslau, an electric vehicle analyst with Lux Research, wrote in an email, Tesla "is struggling in its (admittedly heroic) undertaking of starting a car company from scratch, and an EV-only one to boot

More waste!

Uh, green guys, there's a REASON the electric vehicle failed the test of the marketplace back at THE BEGINNING of the automotive era.

Quote"Why do we keep repeating the same mistakes?" asked small wind turbine builder and author Ian Woofenden.  "No vertical axis company has survived in the marketplace for any length of time. All long-term successful wind-electric manufacturers use horizontal axis designs. This is because they work."

Allow me to explain that quote...
This is hilarious, the moron that said this is actually just as clueless as the industry he's complaining about.
It's a perfect example of the solar industry, it too is completely subsidized, if it weren't there wouldn't be one solar panel manufacturer on the mkt.

This guy actually thinks that the wind turbine industry is successful as a business model, yet has not one clue that it is completely subsidized and propped up via Govt dictating that private industry must buy this shit, same as solar, private utilities are forced into buying it.
If it wasn't for Govt, there would be no real mkt for Green Shit and the product price would reflect that, in other words, no one would buy it because it would be too expensive, instead we all pay to subsidize everyone that has solar, wind, or fish farts, it's all a freakin pipe dream!

Quote from: Solar on September 30, 2012, 06:22:08 AM
Allow me to explain that quote...
This is hilarious, the moron that said this is actually just as clueless as the industry he's complaining about.
It's a perfect example of the solar industry, it too is completely subsidized, if it weren't there wouldn't be one solar panel manufacturer on the mkt.

This guy actually thinks that the wind turbine industry is successful as a business model, yet has not one clue that it is completely subsidized and propped up via Govt dictating that private industry must buy this shit, same as solar, private utilities are forced into buying it.
If it wasn't for Govt, there would be no real mkt for Green Shit and the product price would reflect that, in other words, no one would buy it because it would be too expensive, instead we all pay to subsidize everyone that has solar, wind, or fish farts, it's all a freakin pipe dream!

Oh, I'm sure he knows it's subsidized. I'm also guessing that he's in the vertical turbine business. He was saying to government, "Don't give away money to horizontal turbine companies, give it to me. My design works".

I wondered when I was going to be able to use the "drool" emoticon.

Quote from: Solar on September 30, 2012, 06:22:08 AM
Allow me to explain that quote...
This is hilarious, the moron that said this is actually just as clueless as the industry he's complaining about.
It's a perfect example of the solar industry, it too is completely subsidized, if it weren't there wouldn't be one solar panel manufacturer on the mkt.

This guy actually thinks that the wind turbine industry is successful as a business model, yet has not one clue that it is completely subsidized and propped up via Govt dictating that private industry must buy this shit, same as solar, private utilities are forced into buying it.
If it wasn't for Govt, there would be no real mkt for Green Shit and the product price would reflect that, in other words, no one would buy it because it would be too expensive, instead we all pay to subsidize everyone that has solar, wind, or fish farts, it's all a freakin pipe dream!

Right on bother!

We don't to kill green energy. We just want it in the hands of the private sector.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 30, 2012, 01:17:32 PM
We don't to kill green energy. We just want it in the hands of the private sector.

Yes indeed.  I think it will thrive on it's own or utterly fail on it's own.  As it should be.  The government shouldn't be in the business of picking winnings or losers in the corporate world.

Quote from: rich_t on September 30, 2012, 02:19:14 PM
Yes indeed.  I think it will thrive on it's own or utterly fail on it's own.  As it should be.  The government shouldn't be in the business of picking winnings or losers in the corporate world.

Ah, but the government NEVER picks winners -- only losers. The only reason any legitimate company seeks government aid is because it fears it is losing or will lose in the open market.

Winners don't need government help.

Quote from: tbone0106 on September 30, 2012, 05:07:58 PM
Ah, but the government NEVER picks winners -- only losers. The only reason any legitimate company seeks government aid is because it fears it is losing or will lose in the open market.

Winners don't need government help.

Truer words never spoken!

Quote from: lessthantolerant on October 01, 2012, 03:28:13 AM
Truer words never spoken!

Not always. Sometimes businesses like having government assist them in destroying smaller competitors. It's cheaper to have government stab them in the back, than to fight them in the marketplace. It's not that they can't defeat them, it simply costs more. It's more cost effective to have the regulators, paperwork their competitors to death. Large businesses often outsource their paperwork to other companies that specialize in that crap. Whereas smaller businesses are forced to spend time and resources doing it themselves.