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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Solar on June 19, 2014, 11:26:41 AM

Title: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2014, 11:26:41 AM
Didn't the Dim media hammer the point that none were found, yet .....
Read the last line, they don't believe they are weapon worth, yet aren't safe to move? WTF!!!

Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists 'seize Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons stockpile'

17.09 Chemical weapons produced at the Al Muthanna facility, which Isis today seized, are believed to have included mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun, and VX.
Here is the CIA's file on the complex.
Quote Stockpiles of chemical munitions are still stored there. The most dangerous ones have been declared to the UN and are sealed in bunkers.

Although declared, the bunkers contents have yet to be confirmed.
These areas of the compound pose a hazard to civilians and potential blackmarketers.
Numerous bunkers, including eleven cruciform shaped bunkers were exploited. Some of the bunkers were empty. Some of the bunkers contained large quantitiesof unfilled chemical munitions, conventional munitions, one-ton shipping containers, old disabled production equipment (presumed disabled under UNSCOM supervision), and other hazardous industrial chemicals.

17.05 The Chemical Weapons Convention, which Iraq joined in 2009, requires it to dispose of the material at Al Muthanna, even though it was declared unusable and "does not pose a significant security risk"
However, the UK goverment has acknowledgeded that the nature of the material contained in the two bunkers would make the destruction process difficult and technically challenging.
Under an agreement signed in Baghdad in July 2012, experts from the MOD's Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) were due to provide training to Iraqi personnel in order to help them to dispose of the chemical munitions and agents.
The Al Mutannah chemical weapons complex (CIA)

16.52 The remaining chemical weapons from Saddam Hussein's regime are stored in two sealed bunkers, both located at the Al Muthanna Chemicals Weapons Complex, a large site in the western desert some 80km north west of Baghdad.
This was the principal manufacturing plant for both chemical agents and munitions during Saddam Hussein's rule.
Thousands of tonnes of chemical weapons were produced, stored and deployed by the Saddam Hussein regime. Iraq used these weapons during the Iran - Iraq War (1980 to 1988) and against the Kurds in Halabja in 1988.

16.32 Isis jihadists have seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal:
Quote U.S. officials don't believe the Sunni militants will be able to create a functional chemical weapon from the material. The weapons stockpiled at the Al Muthanna complex are old, contaminated and hard to move, officials said.
Nonetheless, the capture of the chemical-weapon stockpile by the forces of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, known as ISIS or ISIL, the militant group that is seizing territory in the country, has grabbed the attention of the U.S.
"We remain concerned about the seizure of any military site by the ISIL," Jen Psaki, the State Department spokeswoman, said in a written statement. "We do not believe that the complex contains CW materials of military value and it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to safely move the materials."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10910868/Iraq-crisis-Obama-may-launch-air-strikes-without-Congress-amid-calls-for-Maliki-to-go-live.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10910868/Iraq-crisis-Obama-may-launch-air-strikes-without-Congress-amid-calls-for-Maliki-to-go-live.html)
Title: Re: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: tac on June 19, 2014, 11:28:16 AM
More BS from the Obozo supporters.
Title: Re: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: walkstall on June 19, 2014, 11:47:59 AM
Quote from: Solar on June 19, 2014, 11:26:41 AM
Didn't the Dim media hammer the point that none were found, yet .....
Read the last line, they don't believe they are weapon worth, yet aren't safe to move? WTF!!!

Iraq crisis: Isis jihadists 'seize Saddam Hussein's chemical weapons stockpile'

17.09 Chemical weapons produced at the Al Muthanna facility, which Isis today seized, are believed to have included mustard gas, Sarin, Tabun, and VX.
Here is the CIA's file on the complex.
Quote Stockpiles of chemical munitions are still stored there. The most dangerous ones have been declared to the UN and are sealed in bunkers.

Although declared, the bunkers contents have yet to be confirmed.
These areas of the compound pose a hazard to civilians and potential blackmarketers.
Numerous bunkers, including eleven cruciform shaped bunkers were exploited. Some of the bunkers were empty. Some of the bunkers contained large quantitiesof unfilled chemical munitions, conventional munitions, one-ton shipping containers, old disabled production equipment (presumed disabled under UNSCOM supervision), and other hazardous industrial chemicals.

17.05 The Chemical Weapons Convention, which Iraq joined in 2009, requires it to dispose of the material at Al Muthanna, even though it was declared unusable and "does not pose a significant security risk"
However, the UK goverment has acknowledgeded that the nature of the material contained in the two bunkers would make the destruction process difficult and technically challenging.
Under an agreement signed in Baghdad in July 2012, experts from the MOD's Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (Dstl) were due to provide training to Iraqi personnel in order to help them to dispose of the chemical munitions and agents.
The Al Mutannah chemical weapons complex (CIA)

16.52 The remaining chemical weapons from Saddam Hussein's regime are stored in two sealed bunkers, both located at the Al Muthanna Chemicals Weapons Complex, a large site in the western desert some 80km north west of Baghdad.
This was the principal manufacturing plant for both chemical agents and munitions during Saddam Hussein's rule.
Thousands of tonnes of chemical weapons were produced, stored and deployed by the Saddam Hussein regime. Iraq used these weapons during the Iran - Iraq War (1980 to 1988) and against the Kurds in Halabja in 1988.

16.32 Isis jihadists have seized a chemical weapons facility built by Saddam Hussein which contains a stockpile of old weapons, State Department officials have told the Wall Street Journal:
Quote U.S. officials don't believe the Sunni militants will be able to create a functional chemical weapon from the material. The weapons stockpiled at the Al Muthanna complex are old, contaminated and hard to move, officials said.
Nonetheless, the capture of the chemical-weapon stockpile by the forces of the Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham, known as ISIS or ISIL, the militant group that is seizing territory in the country, has grabbed the attention of the U.S.
"We remain concerned about the seizure of any military site by the ISIL," Jen Psaki, the State Department spokeswoman, said in a written statement. "We do not believe that the complex contains CW materials of military value and it would be very difficult, if not impossible, to safely move the materials."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10910868/Iraq-crisis-Obama-may-launch-air-strikes-without-Congress-amid-calls-for-Maliki-to-go-live.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/10910868/Iraq-crisis-Obama-may-launch-air-strikes-without-Congress-amid-calls-for-Maliki-to-go-live.html)

When you have suicide bombers, what would stop them from moving it.  Why would they care how they die!
Title: Re: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: kit saginaw on June 19, 2014, 03:19:19 PM
They don't exist.  Hence The Telegraph doesn't exist.  -Hence England doesn't exist. 

Hence kerry, hagel, and o-ring's being against going to war over WMD's before they red-lined going to war over them, never existed.

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Title: Re: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: Solar on June 19, 2014, 04:27:19 PM
Quote from: kit saginaw on June 19, 2014, 03:19:19 PM
They don't exist.  Hence The Telegraph doesn't exist.  -Hence England doesn't exist. 

Hence kerry, hagel, and o-ring's being against going to war over WMD's before they red-lined going to war over them, never existed.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: DaisyJane on June 19, 2014, 05:57:26 PM
They should be perfectly safe to move if they aren't dangerous!!  Double speak at its worst.

DaisyJane      :bored:
Title: Re: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: Billy's bayonet on June 19, 2014, 06:46:30 PM
 :popcorn:

What about all the ones they moved into Syria that Obamao and his clown show were talking about
Title: Re: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: TboneAgain on June 19, 2014, 06:48:59 PM
It was made public back in 2003-04 that we found something like 500 chemical warheads, but by that time the lib/prog press had turned against Bush and wouldn't cover it.
Title: Re: Wait! WMDs In Iraq?
Post by: Billy's bayonet on June 19, 2014, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: TboneAgain on June 19, 2014, 06:48:59 PM
It was made public back in 2003-04 that we found something like 500 chemical warheads, but by that time the lib/prog press had turned against Bush and wouldn't cover it.

That and something like 30 missles with specially fitted compartments for carrying WMD