What was/is it about Donald Trump's personality, that allowed him to succeed, where all his Republican predecessors had failed?
Here's an attempt to explain this. It's short, and very interesting. I've not read anything like it before. Not sure if I agree with it all ... I'd like to see other patriots' comments. But it makes sense:
https://twilightpatriot.substack.com/p/why-trump-succeeded-where-others
I'd be interested other people's comments on it --- post them in the comments section of that site, and then copy them here ... that way a lot of people (anyone who reads that essay) will see your comment, as well as the people who post here.
I commented, but I have no interest in joining another site.
Here is my reply.
Such a myopic view from a centrist right winger.
I could go into detail as to where you fail, but that would require me, teaching you history, a history that I witnessed and I lived through.
It was a very different time under Reagan, who, himself was still evolving away from a liberal Dim.
Trump on the other hand is more than just a one issue POTUS!
I lived under Reagan as a Governor, in fact, a poor one at that because he raised our sales tax to 4 cents from three cents, and back then, that added up quickly.
He also banned Open Carry, not what one would consider a Conservative ideal. He did it out of fear, not out of commonsense! Reagan made many mistakes early on, but in the end, he was a solid Conservative.
Trump is by far more than a one issue POTUS, abortion. This child author has no clue what he is talking about!
Feel free to post this over there if you like.
After reading "Understanding Donald Trump" I thought to myself "what the fuck do I care what this pompous dork has to say"? After reading this one short article I have no interest whatsoever of reading anymore of this authors bullshit.
Quote from: yrunvs on June 26, 2022, 06:27:48 PMAfter reading "Understanding Donald Trump" I thought to myself "what the fuck do I care what this pompous dork has to say"? After reading this one short article I have no interest whatsoever of reading anymore of this authors bullshit.
Yet here you are.... Commenting :lol: :lol:
Quote from: Solar on June 26, 2022, 11:14:58 AMI commented, but I have no interest in joining another site.
Here is my reply.
Such a myopic view from a centrist right winger.
I could go into detail as to where you fail, but that would require me, teaching you history, a history that I witnessed and I lived through.
It was a very different time under Reagan, who, himself was still evolving away from a liberal Dim.
Trump on the other hand is more than just a one issue POTUS!
I lived under Reagan as a Governor, in fact, a poor one at that because he raised our sales tax to 4 cents from three cents, and back then, that added up quickly.
He also banned Open Carry, not what one would consider a Conservative ideal. He did it out of fear, not out of commonsense! Reagan made many mistakes early on, but in the end, he was a solid Conservative.
Trump is by far more than a one issue POTUS, abortion. This child author has no clue what he is talking about!
Feel free to post this over there if you like.
The 'child author' is a pretty sharp cookie. I don't agree with him on everything, but he's always interesting to read. You don't have to 'join' a site to look at things that are posted on it. And his blog is not a forum anyway.
(My most serious disagreement with the author of that essay is his general outlook on America's future. He sees the country as sliding slowly into collapse, which I believe is a 'quietist' position, something that will discourage people from acting now to oppose it. Even if there is a lot of evidence for his position, no one knows the future ... and we need, as someone one said, "Pessimism of the Intellect, Optimism of the Will".)
I too lived in California under Reagan, including when he was governor.
I also know a bit of history but I'm always willing to learn from people who are smarter or more knowledgeable than me, so feel free to instruct.
What 'TwilightPatriot' is getting at here (https://twilightpatriot.substack.com/p/why-trump-succeeded-where-others) is WHY Trump was able to do what he did, when the usual result of Republican leaders in power is not to really challenge the Left.
His explanation is not terribly flattering to Trump, but that's irrelevant ... except as it might encourage other conservative political leaders to act likewise.
Quote from: Doug1943 on June 27, 2022, 12:47:11 AMThe 'child author' is a pretty sharp cookie. I don't agree with him on everything, but he's always interesting to read. You don't have to 'join' a site to look at things that are posted on it. And his blog is not a forum anyway.
(My most serious disagreement with the author of that essay is his general outlook on America's future. He sees the country as sliding slowly into collapse, which I believe is a 'quietist' position, something that will discourage people from acting now to oppose it. Even if there is a lot of evidence for his position, no one knows the future ... and we need, as someone one said, "Pessimism of the Intellect, Optimism of the Will".)
I too lived in California under Reagan, including when he was governor.
I also know a bit of history but I'm always willing to learn from people who are smarter or more knowledgeable than me, so feel free to instruct.
What 'TwilightPatriot' is getting at here (https://twilightpatriot.substack.com/p/why-trump-succeeded-where-others) is WHY Trump was able to do what he did, when the usual result of Republican leaders in power is not to really challenge the Left.
His explanation is not terribly flattering to Trump, but that's irrelevant ... except as it might encourage other conservative political leaders to act likewise.
Here is what the the author did not touch on, Trump is not a politician, he is a businessman. As such, to get results he did not have to compromise with the other side. He is also impatient, he wants to see results now. He also understood the left could not be compromised with, the democrat party that Reagan knew was long gone, the party of today is out to destroy the country. Your author you used also did not hit on the most important fact, Trump loves this country and the law abiding citizens in it who are the decedents of the great people who built this country. To be honest with you, I do not think the author knows a damn thing about why Trump ran for the presidency or why he is the greatest president we have had.
Quote from: AmericanMom on June 26, 2022, 07:30:57 PMYet here you are.... Commenting :lol: :lol:
I don't understand this?
A hit piece with a misleading title. Can I get back the 3 minutes of my life that I wasted reading it?
Quote from: American Exceptionalism on June 27, 2022, 05:19:52 AMA hit piece with a misleading title. Can I get back the 3 minutes of my life that I wasted reading it?
:thumbup: :thumbup: nailed it.
Quote from: Possum on June 27, 2022, 04:21:04 AMHere is what the the author did not touch on, Trump is not a politician, he is a businessman. As such, to get results he did not have to compromise with the other side. He is also impatient, he wants to see results now. He also understood the left could not be compromised with, the democrat party that Reagan knew was long gone, the party of today is out to destroy the country. Your author you used also did not hit on the most important fact, Trump loves this country and the law abiding citizens in it who are the decedents of the great people who built this country. To be honest with you, I do not think the author knows a damn thing about why Trump ran for the presidency or why he is the greatest president we have had.
Well said.
I'll come back later, I have a full day, so to speak.
Quote from: Doug1943 on June 27, 2022, 12:47:11 AMThe 'child author' is a pretty sharp cookie. I don't agree with him on everything, but he's always interesting to read. You don't have to 'join' a site to look at things that are posted on it. And his blog is not a forum anyway.
(My most serious disagreement with the author of that essay is his general outlook on America's future. He sees the country as sliding slowly into collapse, which I believe is a 'quietist' position, something that will discourage people from acting now to oppose it. Even if there is a lot of evidence for his position, no one knows the future ... and we need, as someone one said, "Pessimism of the Intellect, Optimism of the Will".)
I too lived in California under Reagan, including when he was governor.
I also know a bit of history but I'm always willing to learn from people who are smarter or more knowledgeable than me, so feel free to instruct.
What 'TwilightPatriot' is getting at here (https://twilightpatriot.substack.com/p/why-trump-succeeded-where-others) is WHY Trump was able to do what he did, when the usual result of Republican leaders in power is not to really challenge the Left.
His explanation is not terribly flattering to Trump, but that's irrelevant ... except as it might encourage other conservative political leaders to act likewise.
He's a fucking idiot... he called us a "Constitutional Democracy" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm reading it right now...
I'll chop it up into pieces:
QuoteAnd yet they didn't. In Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization, all three of Trump's appointees held the line, and voted to start treating America like a constitutional democracy again. And even John Roberts, who even very recently was trying to peel off at least one conservative justice to join a "compromise opinion," eventually gave up and wrote a partial concurrence. As a consequence of this, abortion will soon be illegal in about twenty states.
We're a Constitutional Republic you dimbat.
QuoteObviously, this is nowhere near a total win for the right-to-life movement. Most Americans still lean pro-choice, and the laws in most states will continue to reflect that.
No, dummy, most Americans, like most of the world, are against baby murder. Calling it "pro-choice" proves how big of an idiot this clown is.
QuoteI have a theory, and it goes like this: Unlike most of his rivals within the Republican party, Donald Trump is not, at heart, a scoundrel. He's just a child who never had to grow up.
This author is a complete clown. I'm detecting a whiff of academia...
QuoteWhich is ironic, considering that when he was sworn in back in January of 2017, he was the oldest person to ever assume the presidency. But for rich people who don't have to do much to climb their way up the ladder of life, and who are always being sheltered from the consequences of their own actions, the mentality of never-ending childhood is common.
Is this the same rich person who lost it all and made it back, and built a fortune on a modest inheritance?
I'm detecting Bernie-type anti-capitalist at this point...
QuoteDid Trump need to do well in high school in order to go to an expensive college? No. Did he need to do well in college in order to get a job with the Trump Organization? No.
No, yet he did. It's higher quality of person who excels even when it's not required.
QuoteDid he need to prove his abilities in lower jobs before being entrusted with multi-million-dollar real estate deals? Again, no.
It's academics like this who don't understand real world experience. Trump learned under his father and gained that experience, hence why he required the same for his kids.
This libtard really hates Trump.
QuoteAs a result, Donald Trump didn't have to develop a thick skin.
I know. The NYC mob-controlled real estate industry in the 1980s is a place where snowflakes and the timid could thrive.
QuoteHe didn't have to learn to be humble about his abilities or realistic in choosing his goals.
Are we still talking about the realistic goals like building luxury resorts around the world, skyscrapers, and becoming President?
QuoteHe didn't have to get into the habit of only making commitments that he was willing to work hard to keep.
...even though he did his entire life.
QuoteAnd he didn't have to learn to persist at a task even when he wasn't surrounded by other people doing their best to make that task easy for him.
This is envious hearsay. The person writing this is just making up character lies about someone who has proven otherwise beyond any reasonable doubt or metric.
QuoteBasically, he never had to evolve past the level of development that most of us were at around the age of ten.
This is an attempt by someone of poor intellect to make a "Trump is dumb" accusation. Trump forgot more about real estate by age ten than most humans will ever learn... including myself, who was tits-deep in real estate investing for years.
QuoteBut at heart, he is still a patriot. He loves his country, and he wants what is best for Americans.
Here's where they try to straddle the "I hate Trump, but you Trump fans, please stay with me... see, I called him a patriot!"
QuoteAnd he also has some important talents – not in management
Yeah, clearly he has no idea what he's doing with his luxury resorts and hotels...
Quoteor trying to run a bureaucracy,
This is something a professor would say, or someone who knows NOTHING about how things work. Regardless, Trump is the guy who navigated bureaucracy to do things, like, create Space Force and re-allocate funds for building the wall.
The level of stupid of this author is stunning, quite frankly.
Quotebut in deal-making, brand-building, and showmanship.
The author tries to use the obvious as a smokescreen for his idiocy. He failed. Also, these are qualities the author HATES, hence why he's attributing them to Trump.
Doug1943, tell your author to join this forum if he wants to learn, but don't expect us to pretend his opinion piece was worth anything.
QuoteAnd Donald Trump is not, at his core, corrupt, malign or insincere. When he said that he wanted to build a big, beautiful wall on the southern border, he really meant it. He didn't exactly do a good job of following through with that promise – waiting until Congress' lame duck session, when the Democrats had already won the midterm elections, to force a shutdown over the issue was an especially clueless move – but at the same time, I have little doubt that his feelings toward the wall remained 100% positive.
Read this clown's words, then understand that he's a liar:
https://conservativehardliner.com/drone-footage-and-interactive-map-showing-progress-border-construction
https://conservativehardliner.com/president-has-been-effectively-locking-down-border-and-sending-criminals-back-home
Do you think Trump's accomplishments in office were because the Republicans made it easy for him? This idiot does:
QuoteSo when Trump uses this kind of harsh language, it means he really is against abortion, and he will act decisively to limit abortion, so long as the rest of the Republican Party is there to make it easy for him.
Frankly, it's shocking to me how stupid this guy. How can someone comment on politics and be so clueless? For example:
QuoteAnd then we got Trump. As we've learned over the last six years, Trump does not always follow through on his commitments. He does not always choose reasonable goals. He seldom acts as if he is aware of his own fallibility.
Nobody has followed through on his committments more than Trump. That's just a fact, and the border wall is an example of him doing so.
How about this stupidity?:
QuoteHe never acted on his promise to defund Planned Parenthood, because there were too many moderates in Congress for a bill to that effect to reach his desk.
Even Politifact knows Trump aborted Planned Parenthood:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpometer/promise/1357/defund-planned-parenthood/
QuoteThe Trump administration enacted a rule that effectively said that any facility receiving federal Title X funding cannot also be an abortion provider. Previously, abortion providers such as Planned Parenthood could receive Title X funds as long as the funds were only used for non-abortion services.
"When this rule was instituted, Planned Parenthood was faced with having to choose between continuing to receive the Title X funding for family planning care or continuing to provide abortion services at some of their clinics," said Gretchen E. Ely, a professor at the State University of New York-Buffalo's School of Social Work.
In August 2019, one month before the rule was scheduled to take effect, Planned Parenthood decided to stop taking Title X rather than discontinuing abortion services. A federal appeals court upheld the rule's legality in February 2020.
This author seems surprised that trump got this done. He doesnt seem to give trump credit for being smarter than he is, or that trump is a stable genius with a history of out foxing the left.
He also seems to make the mistake of not realizing that the country is largely against abortion. This was overturned due to the public outcry that elected trump in the first place and there is no chance of this going back again since, now that biden is being removed, Trump will get to replace his supreme court pick who didnt know what a woman was.
QuoteBut for rich people who don't have to do much to climb their way up the ladder of life, and who are always being sheltered from the consequences of their own actions, the mentality of never-ending childhood is common.
See, he clearly has Trump Derangement Syndrome, because he sees trump as a child and not as more mature or more intelligent than the author himself. Thats a sign the author has ego issues of his own.
QuoteDid Trump need to do well in high school in order to go to an expensive college? No. Did he need to do well in college in order to get a job with the Trump Organization? No. Did he need to prove his abilities in lower jobs before being entrusted with multi-million-dollar real estate deals? Again, no.
When he wanted to avoid the draft, Trump had doctors at the ready to find evidence of bone spurs. When he wanted to get through his divorces and bankruptcies and other legal affairs with as little trouble as possible, he had the best lawyers at his beck and call. And so forth.
As a result, Donald Trump didn't have to develop a thick skin. He didn't have to learn to be humble about his abilities or realistic in choosing his goals. He didn't have to get into the habit of only making commitments that he was willing to work hard to keep. And he didn't have to learn to persist at a task even when he wasn't surrounded by other people doing their best to make that task easy for him.
Basically, he never had to evolve past the level of development that most of us were at around the age of ten.
This is DIRECT parroting of the mainstream media, without any facts or evidence to back any of it up, just his emotional jealousy at Trump, exposing his Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Quote"There was always an element of the Republican Party that was batshit crazy. They had lots of different names—they were John Birchers, they were 'movement conservatives,' they were the religious right. And we did what every other Republican candidate did: we exploited them. We got them to the polls. We talked about abortion. We promised—and we did nothing. They could grumble, but their choices were limited."
Then, when he quotes things like this, saying that the right has extreme radical elements just like the left(The Equality Fallacy), he exposes that he was never truly conservative in the first place, but a RINO all along.
Quote from: American Exceptionalism on June 27, 2022, 05:19:52 AMA hit piece with a misleading title. Can I get back the 3 minutes of my life that I wasted reading it?
Right. This whole article is just trying to actually TAKE the credit for overturning RvW away from Trump by calling it an accident.
Well there is only so many times before trump can slip on a banana and end up doing a perfect backflip before I will start realizing that he is doing it on purpose just to show off.
The author is clearly someone who doesnt want trump running the GOP.
In fact, Im not reading the term RINO at all in this article. I dont think this guy knows what a RINO is or how they are leftists in disguise infiltrating the party to do damage. He seems to think RINOs are conservatives.
Quote from: taxed on June 27, 2022, 09:31:52 AMNo, dummy, most Americans, like most of the world, are against baby murder. Calling it "pro-choice" proves how big of an idiot this clown is.
I missed that, but ya, if he is using the lefts own terminology then he is already lost.