Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 11:50:06 AM
You're asking him to prove that if Donald Trump lied his "enemies" would have exposed him...?


So, you want him to show you evidence that Donald Trump's "enemies" would have exposed his lies?...


I'm just repeating it to myself in order to make it make sense...


Who are the "enemies" that you want him to look into in order to prove that they would have exposed Donald Trump if her were lying?

Should be pretty easy to follow. If Trump lied about over paying taxes, it should be easy to find out if he lied, because Trump's enemies would happily expose him.

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 11:50:06 AM
Who are the "enemies" ?

Unfortunately, the answer is very simple.

Enemies of Trump - Transnational corporations, American politicians who have perished in Chinese corruption, the left press, the deceitful "left" professors of American universities, brainless students studying "racial" sciences, rich Jewish boys from Google Facebook and YouTube and personally two very rich scoundrels - Soros and Bezos ...

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 22, 2020, 12:04:02 PM
Unfortunately, the answer is very simple.

Enemies of Trump - Transnational corporations, American politicians who have perished in Chinese corruption, the left press, the deceitful "left" professors of American universities, brainless students studying "racial" sciences, rich Jewish boys from Google Facebook and YouTube and personally two very rich scoundrels - Soros and Bezos ...

And sadly, the Republican party. Well truth is, many have become the enemy of the people they are supposed to serve.

Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 11:57:29 AM
Should be pretty easy to follow. If Trump lied about over paying taxes, it should be easy to find out if he lied, because Trump's enemies would happily expose him.

Why would it be easy to expose the President of the United States?

That's illogical. He's the most protected and guarded man in America.

And by your logic, the things about Trump that have been "exposed" over he last 4 years are credible and should be accepted as fact. Which I'm sure you wouldn't agree with.

Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 11:28:02 AM
Whether he committed fraud for one thing. Is he lying about how much he paid, since your Solar used his words to prove something, for another. Who he owes money to for another. Do his debts make him a national security threat for another.

Why are you not interested?

Lying? It was reported he paid a certain amount. OK. If there was something wrong with his returns wouldn't the IRS pursue same?

Are you suggesting his tax returns present a threat to national security? If so how. No speculation, just facts please.

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 12:09:49 PM
Why would it be easy to expose the President of the United States?

That's illogical. He's the most protected and guarded man in America.

And by your logic, the things about Trump that have been "exposed" over he last 4 years are credible and should be accepted as fact. Which I'm sure you wouldn't agree with.

Both party's despise Trump, so if he did cheat on his taxes, don't you think the IRS would go after him, like when Obozo and the GOP sicked the IRS on TEA.

Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 12:09:31 PM
And sadly, the Republican party. Well truth is, many have become the enemy of the people they are supposed to serve.

Many Republicans are exactly the same career bureaucrats as Democrats.

None of them, when they were in the majority in both houses of Congress, even hinted at limiting the number of electoral terms.

Half a century in politics, normal for the dinosaurs from Congress. Although it has been mathematically proven that even two terms already reduce the productive activity of a politician by almost half.

Quote from: Old Trapper on December 22, 2020, 09:18:30 AM
So, we are to rely on the words of a liar who will not release his tax records.

And you think others are as stupid as you.

The IRS looks at them every year. Why do you need to see them?

Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 01:36:49 PM
Both party's despise Trump, so if he did cheat on his taxes, don't you think the IRS would go after him, like when Obozo and the GOP sicked the IRS on TEA.

If President Obama sicked the IRS on TEA, President Trump can un-sick them from himself. Or sick them on the Dems.

All of this would be moot if Trump just released his taxes like he said he would.

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 03:52:25 PM
If President Obama sicked the IRS on TEA, President Trump can un-sick them from himself. Or sick them on the Dems.

All of this would be moot if Trump just released his taxes like he said he would.

And you think he could do that without the press telling it?

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 12:09:49 PM
Why would it be easy to expose the President of the United States?

That's illogical. He's the most protected and guarded man in America.

And by your logic, the things about Trump that have been "exposed" over he last 4 years are credible and should be accepted as fact. Which I'm sure you wouldn't agree with.

You are still thinking in terms that all branches of our Govt are honest and upright instead of the hateful ego maniacs that they truly are.  I would bet my life on the fact that some lowlife scumbag in the IRS, would get their hands on his tax returns and expose them to the world if there were anything "wrong" or falsified etc etc with them.

I'm betting his returns would show he pays more than he should, I know why the left wants his taxes coz they want to see what charities he supports, what NGO's he supports and what businesses he invests in or owns so they can systematically attack those entities and tear them to pieces.

Quote from: Possum on December 22, 2020, 04:03:37 PM
And you think he could do that without the press telling it?

Why would he care what the press says? They've said a million other things that just get dismissed by a tweet.

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 04:22:04 PM
Why would he care what the press says? They've said a million other things that just get dismissed by a tweet.

No normal person cares what your fake news says....

Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 22, 2020, 03:52:25 PM
If President Obama sicked the IRS on TEA, President Trump can un-sick them from himself. Or sick them on the Dems.

All of this would be moot if Trump just released his taxes like he said he would.

He could, Obozo got away with it, but then, isn't that illegal? Oh wait, you're a Marxist, laws are merely guide lines, not impenetrable walls designed to protect as well as inhibit wrong doing, no, to you scum, it's just something for others to follow..

Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2020, 04:45:26 PM
He could, Obozo got away with it, but then, isn't that illegal? Oh wait, you're a Marxist, laws are merely guide lines, not impenetrable walls designed to protect as well as inhibit wrong doing, no, to you scum, it's just something for others to follow..

Is it? Why didn't Trump "lock him up" for it?

No matter. All this talk about his taxes would go away if he just released them like all other candidates for the last 40 years or so