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Quote from: Ms.Independence on January 26, 2017, 06:57:23 AM
I agree with you; while I love so far what he's doing, ruling by executive fiat is very concerning.

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Quote from: taxed on January 26, 2017, 05:06:50 PM
If that was even remotely what he was doing, I'd agree.

It's all those years of bowing and taking it in the shorts - we all got use to being stepped on, maligned and laughed at as Americans.
Trump can right the ship, and go on to *represent* the American people, not *rule* ... we're all good with that.

Unwinding the Executive Orders isn't ruling, it's *righting* a wrong.

Hate to admit it... even I have gotten so accustomed to government-running-amuck... this is quite a *shock*  (or is refreshing a better term?)   All those times a criminal or thug or terrorist harmed Americans, and Obama insinuated it was somehow OUR FAULT and we needed to examine ourselves, like we might have precipitated the evil act.  Logic & Common sense turned upside down for 8 years.

Quote from: Hoofer on January 27, 2017, 02:52:45 PM
You and I are on the same page.  If there is going to be any EO abuse, use it to unwind the former abuse QUICKLY, and then put a stop to it - return to the original purpose, let Congress function as it's suppose to, the People's House.

It really bugged me in 2009 when Obama supporters referred to "Obama's rule" - like he was a monarch and not a representative of the country.  He took it literally, unfortunately.  I don't like the idea of an Executive Order - no matter WHO is POTUS.  I'd much rather see the House exercise full control of the finances & budget, instead of this shirking their responsibility for this 20 Trillion dollar debt.... but that's another subject.

I'm really concerned how quickly and easily Americans forget how the 3 branches of government are suppose to work!  None of them have been acting responsibly, IMO.

Too long have we allowed the infection of Marxism to fester in our public education system. If the people do not understand how our government is designed to work, then they will, of course, not recognize when it is not working according to design. I find it a point of concern that the high school curriculum of today only requires a single semester of study focused specifically on how our government is supposed to function.

The concept of executive orders does not bother me, because how else is the president supposed to run the executive branch of government? The president gives orders to get things done - to his cabinet chiefs, to federal agencies, to the military. Those are executive orders, each and every one of them, though only a small percentage are taken note of (by the media - promoted by the government) and labeled as such. And, the large majority of EOs, even under a shitheap like Obama, are perfectly legitimate uses of executive authority.

But when an EO is used to alter law, or to refuse to enforce a law (effectively repealing it), then we see abuse of authority, which ends up giving the entire concept of executive order a bad smell.

I think of EOs as a management tool. And like any other tool, the determination of whether they are good or bad depends on how they are used.

He's been a very busy Potus, and i'm lovin' what he's done so far. I hope he keeps it up.

It seems the EO concerning extreme vetting is working. People are being detained until their proper credentials are confirmed. That was the intent. Of course, the left is outraged. That is good also. Just think about it. We are identifying people who should not be entering our country. Before the EO they were passing through customs to disappear into the country. The MSM is going to declare all out war on this EO.

Trumps EO's have the lib media blowdryheads brains exploding, and the more they piss and moan, the happier I get. I feel like iv'e overdosed on Valium.

Quote from: stewball on January 30, 2017, 05:02:23 PM
Trumps EO's have the lib media blowdryheads brains exploding, and the more they piss and moan, the happier I get. I feel like iv'e overdosed on Valium.

Their exploding alright. Not just at the EO's but also at the speed at which they are coming. To a lib, it must look like there is no end to them. Just when they are ready to start protesting on one EO, here come several more. And add to this anger is a real fear that their leaders are not able to stop any of this, pelosi, warren,schumer,boxer, can do nothing and their followers know it. All in all, not a good time to be a liberal. And Trump has 3 years 50 weeks to go. Poor libs.

I might point out that this EXO is based upon CODIFIED law under 8 USC 1187...the President or his designee have the right to ban or limit foreign nationals entry into the USA that are deemed a threat.

This one will cripple the Dems dependent upon Saudi money.

QuoteWASHINGTON - President Donald Trump acted Saturday to fulfill a key portion of his pledge to "drain the swamp" in Washington, banning administration officials from ever lobbying the U.S. on behalf of a foreign government and imposing a separate five-year ban on other lobbying.

Administration officials described the bans as historic in scope. But it was not immediately clear how either one would be enforced.

STORY AND VIDEO:

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/trump-imposes-lifetime-ban-on-administration-officials-lobbying-foreign-governments-5-years-for-oth

I need someone to answer this question:  according to the judge in Seattle the Executive Branch does not have the authority to control immigration.  Which branch does?  Is this not a Constitutional crisis?

Quote from: mmtwice on February 09, 2017, 06:51:12 AM
I need someone to answer this question:  according to the judge in Seattle the Executive Branch does not have the authority to control immigration.  Which branch does?  Is this not a Constitutional crisis?

Link?

Quote from: mmtwice on February 09, 2017, 06:51:12 AM
I need someone to answer this question:  according to the judge in Seattle the Executive Branch does not have the authority to control immigration.  Which branch does?  Is this not a Constitutional crisis?

The fact is, the judge in Seatle is wrong, POTUS is the final arbiter of who enters the country.
By the way, this same idiot judge believes Black Lives matters is relevant.

By the way, welcome to the forum...

QuoteThe first executive order, according to what Mr. Trump outlined during the signing ceremony in the Oval Office, is meant to direct the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security to "undertake all necessary and lawful action to break the back of the criminal cartels that have spread across our nation and are destroying the blood of our youth and many other people.""These groups are drivers of crime, corruption, violence, and misery," the order reads. "In particular, the trafficking by cartels of controlled substances has triggered a resurgence in deadly drug abuse and a corresponding rise in violent crime related to drugs."

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QuoteThe president signed two other actions Thursday, including one that creates a task force within the Justice Department dedicated to "reducing violent crime in America."
The "Task Force on Crime Reduction and Public Safety" will have administrative and financial support from the Attorney General's office, according to the text of the order.
The last action directs the DOJ to implement a plan to "stop crime and crimes of violence against law enforcement officers."
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-signs-executive-orders-on-crime-law-enforcement/ar-AAmLMUx?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Sessions swearing in, First day and he has just received some massive marching orders! Is that last order directed at BLM and the Black Panthers?
Here is some more from the article!

QuoteThe order itself instructs the department to "pursue appropriate legislation...that will define new Federal crimes, and increase penalties for existing Federal crimes, in order to prevent violence against Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers." That recommended legislation could include "defining new crimes of violence and establishing new mandatory minimum sentences for existing crimes of violence."
The order also directs a thorough evaluation of all grant funding programs currently administered by the Justice Department.

This is exactly why Trump was elected! All the snowflakes are going into meltdown!

Will the 9th get slapped down and put in there place?

9th Circuit Judge Wants Another Vote over Trump Travel Ban Decision.


by Rachel Stockman | 6:16 pm, February 10th, 2017

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In a rare move, one of the judges on the Ninth Circuit of Appeals has made a request that a vote be taken as to whether the order issued by the three judges Thursday night should be reconsidered en banc, which means before 11 federal judges of the Ninth Circuit. It's not clear if this means that this judge (who was not named in the order) believes that there are enough votes to overturn the lower court's decision which put a temporary halt on Trump's controversial travel ban or if the judge simply wasn't satisfied with the panel's decision. Regardless, it is an interesting move that could bode well for President Trump, and throws yet another legal twist into the ongoing court battle between Trump and those trying to prevent his controversial immigration ban from being enforced.

more @
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/breaking-9th-circuit-judge-wants-another-vote-on-trump-travel-ban-decision/

Quote from: walkstall on February 11, 2017, 08:48:29 AM
Will the 9th get slapped down and put in there place?

9th Circuit Judge Wants Another Vote over Trump Travel Ban Decision.


by Rachel Stockman | 6:16 pm, February 10th, 2017

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In a rare move, one of the judges on the Ninth Circuit of Appeals has made a request that a vote be taken as to whether the order issued by the three judges Thursday night should be reconsidered en banc, which means before 11 federal judges of the Ninth Circuit. It's not clear if this means that this judge (who was not named in the order) believes that there are enough votes to overturn the lower court's decision which put a temporary halt on Trump's controversial travel ban or if the judge simply wasn't satisfied with the panel's decision. Regardless, it is an interesting move that could bode well for President Trump, and throws yet another legal twist into the ongoing court battle between Trump and those trying to prevent his controversial immigration ban from being enforced.

more @
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/breaking-9th-circuit-judge-wants-another-vote-on-trump-travel-ban-decision/

If I'm not mistaken, this isn't the first time the court overturned itself after the fact.
The Ninth Circus is the most overruled court in the Nation, and it's possible the court itself knows when three judges overstepped its own authority.

Quote from: Solar on February 11, 2017, 10:46:14 AM
If I'm not mistaken, this isn't the first time the court overturned itself after the fact.
The Ninth Circus is the most overruled court in the Nation, and it's possible the court itself knows when three judges overstepped its own authority.

My understanding the 9th is not the only one call out over the years.