Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 30, 2015, 04:59:14 PM

Military tribunals for war crimes, when DONE PROPERLY, are notoriously swift and decisive. I cite the Nuremburg trials and the Japanese Imperial Troops that McArthur executed,including General Yamashita, the architect of the invasion of SEA. Something you rarely hear about coz these tribunals were conducted in the field and not a big show like Nuremburg.

These idiotic things that weretaking place by the Bush admin was an appeasement to the flaming Liberals who kept clamoring for 'civilain trials" on US soil.....I am dead set against that.

Miitary tribunal (courts martial) for any captured terrorists, IMMEDIATELY in the field, if found guilty, hanging....shooting is a soldier's death, they don't deserve that coz they are NOT soldiers....and it is a waste of bullets

Billy, that was all before "PC"! 

Nothing works the way it used to work.  PC has ruined everything.

Liberals and UN , specifically the criminals in the Hague who harbor dangerous terrorists themselves have ruined everything....they wanted to apply Geneva convention to these people who were caught in Afghanistan and other places in the ME during our war on Al Q'eda.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 30, 2015, 04:59:14 PM
Military tribunals for war crimes, when DONE PROPERLY, are notoriously swift and decisive. I cite the Nuremburg trials and the Japanese Imperial Troops that McArthur executed,including General Yamashita, the architect of the invasion of SEA. Something you rarely hear about coz these tribunals were conducted in the field and not a big show like Nuremburg.

These idiotic things that weretaking place by the Bush admin was an appeasement to the flaming Liberals who kept clamoring for 'civilain trials" on US soil.....I am dead set against that.

Miitary tribunal (courts martial) for any captured terrorists, IMMEDIATELY in the field, if found guilty, hanging....shooting is a soldier's death, they don't deserve that coz they are NOT soldiers....and it is a waste of bullets

That's how it should be done.


Concerning the "surgical enhancement of terrorists by installing hog parts" -
as amusing as it is, I wouldn't actually do it.


What deters crime is not the severity of punishment,
it's the certainty of it.

W got Iraq fairly peaceful in his time
by making the enemy's capture a pretty sure thing.
Then The Illegitimate One got in power
and validated everything the enemy's leaders had been saying.

They said, "We only appear to be defeated.  Stay strong.
America doesn't have the guts to last long.
America is decadent and will wither away in time.
Allah will prevail!"

Everything the terrorists say about America
ACTUALLY IS TRUE OF THE DEMOCRATS!

Quote from: je_freedom on November 30, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
That's how it should be done.


Concerning the "surgical enhancement of terrorists by installing hog parts" -
as amusing as it is, I wouldn't actually do it.


What deters crime is not the severity of punishment,
it's the certainty of it.

Neither would I, I might be a dinosaur from a different age but I still believe we have the moral high ground when it comes to trying any captured terrorist for war crimes IN THE FIELD and hanging him, defiling their bodies after death is not worthy of the effort. Cremate them and that's the end of it, wipe out every trace they were on the earth and move on to the next.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 30, 2015, 05:57:02 PM

Neither would I, I might be a dinosaur from a different age but I still believe we have the moral high ground when it comes to trying any captured terrorist for war crimes IN THE FIELD and hanging him, defiling their bodies after death is not worthy of the effort. Cremate them and that's the end of it, wipe out every trace they were on the earth and move on to the next.

Before 911, you and I would have been clones in our belief and resolve in dioing the right thing, but Americas new enemy has no soul, scruples or sense of humanity.
So no, I have no issue treating the non human the way the deserve.

Quote from: kroz on November 27, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
Let's face it.  Our warriors are always tortured if captured. 

Why should we put ourselves above doing this?  We know it can produce critical information.  If we are willing to kill them, why not torture them?  It makes no sense to me.  An enemy is an enemy.  Do what you have to do to insure the survival of our troops and an advantage in the war.  It can save lives!!

Even the NAZIS treated POW's according to the Geneva Conventions.

But ISIS is not part of that, so......

Quote from: SalemCat on December 02, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
Even the NAZIS treated POW's according to the Geneva Conventions.

But ISIS is not part of that, so......

I don't know what fairy tail you have been reading. 

Quote from: SalemCat on December 02, 2015, 07:38:57 PM
Even the NAZIS treated POW's according to the Geneva Conventions.

But ISIS is not part of that, so......

Prove this statement with REPUTABLE sources or be prepared to retract that assertion.

Not taking sides here, but the German and American soldiers on the battlefield had far more respect for one another than the Muscum have today.
http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/christmas-truce-of-1914

Quote from: Solar on December 03, 2015, 05:15:29 AM
Not taking sides here, but the German and American soldiers on the battlefield had far more respect for one another than the Muscum have today.
http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i/christmas-truce-of-1914

His statement was.

QuoteEven the NAZIS treated POW's according to the Geneva Conventions.

Not one thing about respect on the battlefield.

Quote from: walkstall on December 03, 2015, 07:07:35 AM
His statement was.

Not one thing about respect on the battlefield.

Yeah, NAZI was not a good choice, German soldier would have made sense.
But I knew what he meant by his statement.

Quote from: kroz on November 27, 2015, 03:18:44 PM
Let's face it.  Our warriors are always tortured if captured. 

Why should we put ourselves above doing this?  We know it can produce critical information.  If we are willing to kill them, why not torture them?  It makes no sense to me.  An enemy is an enemy.  Do what you have to do to insure the survival of our troops and an advantage in the war.  It can save lives!!

Answer:  so we don't become the monster we wish to destroy.

Quote from: Solar on December 03, 2015, 07:19:13 AM
Yeah, NAZI was not a good choice, German soldier would have made sense.
But I knew what he meant by his statement.

From Wikipedia, not U.S. soldier but POW's none the less.

QuoteBetween 140,000 and 500,000 Soviet prisoners of war died or were executed in Nazi concentration camps.

Yes I know it's Wikipedia.

Quote from: kroz on November 28, 2015, 06:35:37 AM
Solar, you have accurately hit upon our root problem in America.  It goes far beyond our military rules of engagement.  It permeates our culture.

We don't think it is right to hurt ANYONE.  It is not PC.

Not only do we not want to hurt our prisoners of war but we don't want to hurt anyone or anything.  That is deemed bad!

BUT, since the beginning of time it is well documented that punishment is a deterrent to wrong behavior.  Pain is an age old method of discipline.  It is not the ONLY method of discipline but it is the fastest way to achieve desired results.

If we abandon this truism, we are rotting at the core.

Today if we "hurt" our children they will be taken away by child services. 

Pain has a rightful place in our society..... both in war and at home.

Or it does the exact opposite; it emboldens them and enrages them further.  Fear can be a great motivator for action.

Quote from: cubedemon on December 03, 2015, 07:37:28 AM
Answer:  so we don't become the monster we wish to destroy.

Apparently she wants AMERICANS to act like these sub-humans animals but in other threads she doesn't want the label "CHRISTIAN" applied to what she supports.

No, MY country doesn't behave like Muslims.

THE FOUNDERS AGEEE WITH ME. Time for you "tea partiers" to return to your roots and your Constitution.