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Title: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:27:21 PM
This time it was the Supreme Court. Ouch.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/scotus/2020/12/11/id/1001161/ (https://www.newsmax.com/us/scotus/2020/12/11/id/1001161/)
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: trumpconservative221 on December 11, 2020, 04:44:11 PM
This reeks of fake news. They expect us to believe three Trump appointed judges voted not to even hear the case? The libs are going to need to try harder than that. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: Skull on December 11, 2020, 04:44:53 PM
That is about it, until Jan. 6th when the possibility of a contingent election still exists.

Looks like it is up to we Deplorable patriots to organize and do what we can...
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: RV on December 11, 2020, 04:45:19 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:27:21 PM
This time it was the Supreme Court. Ouch.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/scotus/2020/12/11/id/1001161/ (https://www.newsmax.com/us/scotus/2020/12/11/id/1001161/)

To keep up the liberal narrative, the libs NEVER talk about the cases WON, only the ones that support the liberal narrative.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: Solar on December 11, 2020, 04:46:18 PM
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 11, 2020, 04:44:11 PM
This reeks of fake news. They expect us to believe three Trump appointed judges voted not to even hear the case? The libs are going to need to try harder than that. :rolleyes:
No, it's true, Texas didn't have a case the way it was written, doesn't mean they can't take a better approach though.

"The State of Texas's motion for leave to file a bill of complaint is denied for lack of standing under Article III of the Constitution," the justices ruled. "Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot."
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:46:28 PM
Quote from: RV on December 11, 2020, 04:45:19 PM
To keep up the liberal narrative, the libs NEVER talk about the cases WON, only the ones that support the liberal narrative.

So what cases has he won?
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: Bronx on December 11, 2020, 04:49:05 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:46:28 PM
So what cases has he won?

Obviously if it went to the SCOTUS he didn't win in the lower courts.

You're really not good at this...be smarter for all of us please.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: Bronx on December 11, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
My understanding is Alito and Thomas voted yes. President Trump's three appointees ruled with Roberts and his merry liberal pronouns.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 05:10:50 PM
Quote from: Bronx on December 11, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
My understanding is Alito and Thomas voted yes. President Trump's three appointees ruled with Roberts and his merry liberal pronouns.

Ouch. Wonder how Donnie must feel. Can't wait for his twitter shitstorm.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 05:45:39 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:46:28 PM
So what cases has he won?

Any case still under appeal isnt really 'lost' until the supreme court hears it and rejects it. Until then there is always more to try, each step having a good chance to succeed.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 05:47:23 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 05:10:50 PM
Ouch. Wonder how Donnie must feel. Can't wait for his twitter shitstorm.

He prbly feels just like us, "meh". Do you see us whining about it or tweeting a shitstorm? Nope. Neither will trump. Of course your TDS causes you to see anything trump tweets as a shitstorm, but thats ok, you have 4 more years to work on that.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: Solar on December 11, 2020, 06:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bronx on December 11, 2020, 05:08:44 PM
My understanding is Alito and Thomas voted yes. President Trump's three appointees ruled with Roberts and his merry liberal pronouns.
Nope, it was unanimous.
However, Alito did in essence give advice for moving as I posted above. Alito referred them to Article III.
I think what the failure was, they took the wrong approach...

Article III
Section 1
The judicial Power of the United States, shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services, a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.

Section 2
The Judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;—to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;—to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;—to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;—to Controversies between two or more States;—between a State and Citizens of another State;—between Citizens of different States,—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.

In all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, and those in which a State shall be Party, the supreme Court shall have original Jurisdiction. In all the other Cases before mentioned, the supreme Court shall have appellate Jurisdiction, both as to Law and Fact, with such Exceptions, and under such Regulations as the Congress shall make.

The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.

Section 3
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.

The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: TD on December 11, 2020, 07:32:58 PM
I kept asking myself what business is it of Texas to be concerned about how other states disregarded their own Constitutions and election laws. I was glad to see all the other states piling on in support but never quite understood Texas' argument. I guess it just wasn't convincing enough for the USSC to hear what they had to say. Maybe the Texas attorneys didn't make it clear enough or didn't go deep enough in their explanation.

Meanwhile, back to Trump's legal team which has evidence and a solid foundation that is grounded, rather than a theoretical argument.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: yrunvs on December 12, 2020, 05:02:15 AM
It would seem to me that Texas and all red states have been disenfranchised in that their votes mean nothing if other states can control elections by simply changing the rules in their states. This will mean any and all future elections will have no merit and so why even have a  vote.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: unver on December 12, 2020, 05:36:17 AM

The election totals in pictures from the last twenty years. Notice the giant jump in votes in 2020 due to ballot stuffing. It runs in the 60 millions until Biden, then it is all of the sudden in the 80 millions.

Obama - 69 million, 52.9%
Biden -81 million, 51.3%

There was this sudden giant jump in votes out of nowhere, that was the "ballot harvesting."

(https://dailystormer.su/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/joe-biden-election-most-votes-ever-in-history.png)
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: Billy's bayonet on December 12, 2020, 05:41:52 AM
The SCOTUS said Texas has no standing to object to how another state changes it rules to run its elections.  I don't know if fraud and cheating were mentioned in this suit but they should have been, I think every state that abides by Constitutional guidelines has standing to object to any other Jurisdiction that doesn't especially when obvious fraud is involved.

It seems to me this suit was more proceedural based rather than based on illegal (unconstitutional) practices such as fraud and cheating, perhaps thats why the SCOTUS refused it.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: Pop Daddy on December 12, 2020, 09:37:37 AM
What was it?  5 cities/counties that stuffed the ballot box with fraudulent votes that swung the election?  If they can get away with it this time, next time it will be 10 cities/counties, then 20. 

It is the hallmark of the left.  Be Santa Clause to enough people and they will vote how ever you want them to.  Free stuff, that's all it takes.  Allowing drug use, tent cities, section 8 housing, free medical, dental and vision.  No cooperation with fed immigration laws, motor voter laws and the next thing you know you have a hub of compliant people that will vote for Santa Clause many times over.  Fraud, what fraud?  Well maybe a little fraud but it wasn't rampant, so it's all good.  Bullcrap.  The biggest mistake these modern robbers have failed to understand is that the deplorables are not going anywhere and we are damn sure not going to recognize Joke Buydon as anything more than a demented pedophile.  And comrade Headboard Harris is nothing more than a used up old whore.

I have no use for cheaters, fuck em.  80 million votes for an idiot in his basement and a whore from san fransicko, sure.

A woman testified to seeing mail in ballots with no folds.  How does that happen?  It is impossible to have a mail in ballot without folds.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: je_freedom on December 12, 2020, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: TD on December 11, 2020, 07:32:58 PM
I kept asking myself what business is it of Texas to be concerned about how other states disregarded their own Constitutions and election laws.

The point is that the Fraudulent Four disregarded laws and constitutions.
The election officials broke all kinds of laws.
If the police break the law in collecting evidence, the evidence is not admissible in court.
Likewise, if a state breaks the law in conducting an election, that should invalidate the election.

Every invalid vote nullifies a legitimate vote. The voter is harmed.
Likewise, every invalid electoral vote nullifies a legitimate electoral vote.
All of us are harmed.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: RV on December 12, 2020, 01:53:45 PM
Quote from: je_freedom on December 12, 2020, 11:29:12 AM
The point is that the Fraudulent Four disregarded laws and constitutions.
The election officials broke all kinds of laws.
If the police break the law in collecting evidence, the evidence is not admissible in court.
Likewise, if a state breaks the law in conducting an election, that should invalidate the election.

Every invalid vote nullifies a legitimate vote. The voter is harmed.
Likewise, every invalid electoral vote nullifies a legitimate electoral vote.
All of us are harmed.

The whole liberal idea of a "victimless crime" is bogus one.
Title: Re: Trump Loses Yet Another Court Case
Post by: ModelCitizen on December 13, 2020, 03:37:50 PM
Quote from: unver on December 12, 2020, 05:36:17 AM
The election totals in pictures from the last twenty years. Notice the giant jump in votes in 2020 due to ballot stuffing. It runs in the 60 millions until Biden, then it is all of the sudden in the 80 millions.

Obama - 69 million, 52.9%
Biden -81 million, 51.3%

There was this sudden giant jump in votes out of nowhere, that was the "ballot harvesting."

(https://dailystormer.su/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/joe-biden-election-most-votes-ever-in-history.png)

Gore to Bush had the same 12 million voter jump