Quote from: supsalemgr on August 03, 2015, 01:52:19 PM
This confirms that the MSM is not about journalism, but about ratings.

I'm concerned about the lack of interest in Cruz.  There was an article in the Herald of Sptbg., yesterday and it was speaking of how much money the super pacs were giving.  Cruz and his doners made the news at least in my home newspaper but I'm not seeing that much interest generated by the polls.  I don't like polls anyway. 

Quote from: keyboarder on August 03, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
I'm concerned about the lack of interest in Cruz.   I'm not seeing that much interest generated by the polls.   

All by design. The LSM and Establishment are scared to death of a Cruz Presidency, they know what it means for their scam they've been running on the American people.

It's much like the Reagan years, except this time around, we'll have both Houses in our control, and even less RINO influence than in the past.

Quote from: keyboarder on August 03, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
I'm concerned about the lack of interest in Cruz.  There was an article in the Herald of Sptbg., yesterday and it was speaking of how much money the super pacs were giving.  Cruz and his doners made the news at least in my home newspaper but I'm not seeing that much interest generated by the polls.  I don't like polls anyway.

That bothers me too, key!!!

The press has never seen the truth before.

Cruz will dominate the debates.

Quote from: carlb on August 03, 2015, 05:52:29 PM
Cruz will dominate the debates.

I think Trump will turn it into a circus!

Quote from: keyboarder on August 03, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
I'm concerned about the lack of interest in Cruz.  There was an article in the Herald of Sptbg., yesterday and it was speaking of how much money the super pacs were giving.  Cruz and his doners made the news at least in my home newspaper but I'm not seeing that much interest generated by the polls.  I don't like polls anyway.

Cruz is doing fine! It is so far out to the primary only political junkies are paying any attention. The debate will probably pull more people to watch and start forming opinions but as it stands the average guy cares very little about any of these candidates. The poll numbers come from a lot of low info voters that if you asked to state one paragraph on the pros and cons of each candidate their biggest confusion would be naming half of them!

Gawker Discloses Donald Trump's Cellphone Number.

The real estate mogul and Republican presidential candidate's cellphone number was published Monday by the website Gawker.


more @  Part way down the page...
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/08/03/gawker-discloses-donald-trumps-cellphone-number/

Quote from: redbeard on August 03, 2015, 06:00:04 PM
Cruz is doing fine! It is so far out to the primary only political junkies are paying any attention. The debate will probably pull more people to watch and start forming opinions but as it stands the average guy cares very little about any of these candidates. The poll numbers come from a lot of low info voters that if you asked to state one paragraph on the pros and cons of each candidate their biggest confusion would be naming half of them!

Couldn't agree more.
The Trump phenomenon is akin to Obozo's rockstar image when he first hit the scene, he's saying all the Right stuff, just what people want to hear, but sadly most have never paid attention to politics till a rockstar shows up.
Yeah, Cruz will clean everyone's clock.

Quote from: Solar on August 03, 2015, 07:02:11 PM
Couldn't agree more.
The Trump phenomenon is akin to Obozo's rockstar image when he first hit the scene, he's saying all the Right stuff, just what people want to hear, but sadly most have never paid attention to politics till a rockstar shows up.
Yeah, Cruz will clean everyone's clock.

I wouldn't go that far! Cruz has some really stiff competition.
I'm really not concerned. We have our 2 top conservative candidates in very good position if and when Trump implodes! I believe if Trump is serious about running he will have to start moderating his tone and rolling back some of his statements. That will alienate him with his conservative support! Cruz and Walker are in a good position to benefit from that! The other advantage is he would start drawing more support away from the RINO's!
Trump has to draw from the middle because I don't believe he can draw enough from the right wing to win and we all know that primary voters tend to be conservative!

Quote from: redbeard on August 04, 2015, 12:12:58 PM
I wouldn't go that far! Cruz has some really stiff competition.
I'm really not concerned. We have our 2 top conservative candidates in very good position if and when Trump implodes! I believe if Trump is serious about running he will have to start moderating his tone and rolling back some of his statements. That will alienate him with his conservative support! Cruz and Walker are in a good position to benefit from that! The other advantage is he would start drawing more support away from the RINO's!
Trump has to draw from the middle because I don't believe he can draw enough from the right wing to win and we all know that primary voters tend to be conservative!

He won't make a course correction until AFTER the Primaries.  That is the norm for all previous RINO candidates.  They solidify their base first then promptly disappoint the base by turning to the Left.  Happens every election season!

Quote from: kroz on August 04, 2015, 12:17:36 PM
He won't make a course correction until AFTER the Primaries.  That is the norm for all previous RINO candidates.  They solidify their base first then promptly disappoint the base by turning to the Left.  Happens every election season!

Difference here is I don't think Trump has enough of the base support to win in the primary! We will have to wait and see but I think he will max out on his support soon and have to look in other directions! One of the problems of rising to fast, If you hit a ceiling and stall everyone will see it as a turn around and spin it as such. When you have momentum you have to keep it going. Not an easy task!

Quote from: redbeard on August 04, 2015, 12:28:27 PM
Difference here is I don't think Trump has enough of the base support to win in the primary! We will have to wait and see but I think he will max out on his support soon and have to look in other directions! One of the problems of rising to fast, If you hit a ceiling and stall everyone will see it as a turn around and spin it as such. When you have momentum you have to keep it going. Not an easy task!

I hope you are right.

The best way for him to lose momentum is for the media and Establishment to quit attacking him.  If they would just shut up, it would go a long way!!!

Quote from: kroz on August 04, 2015, 12:42:26 PM
I hope you are right.

The best way for him to lose momentum is for the media and Establishment to quit attacking him.  If they would just shut up, it would go a long way!!!

It will wear off soon and Trump will have to fight to keep and gain support!

Quote from: redbeard on August 04, 2015, 12:12:58 PM
I wouldn't go that far! Cruz has some really stiff competition.
I'm really not concerned. We have our 2 top conservative candidates in very good position if and when Trump implodes! I believe if Trump is serious about running he will have to start moderating his tone and rolling back some of his statements. That will alienate him with his conservative support! Cruz and Walker are in a good position to benefit from that! The other advantage is he would start drawing more support away from the RINO's!
Trump has to draw from the middle because I don't believe he can draw enough from the right wing to win and we all know that primary voters tend to be conservative!

There is no middle anymore, so pandering to a supposed middle would be a fools mistake.
Nah, it will come down to Cruz in the end, I have no doubt about that.