The fact is, many native Hispanics are not crazy about the open border policy.
I take that to be the main reason Washington has thrown open the borders in such a frenzy -- a race against time to outnumber the legal Hispanics.

That would account for the media strategy to twist the words around and cry raysissm. In typical liberal fashion, they stereotype the Hispanics as language challenged, where the truth is, most Hispanics speak better English than Obama.

Quote from: kroz on July 25, 2015, 02:46:39 PM
It might be too early yet to determine how the hispanic vote will fall.  There are many factors this time around..... not the average election year.  Homeland safety and security is important even to the hispanics.  The dems are obviously not going to secure the borders.

Not saying it can't happen but I would expect the republican share of the Hispanic vote to be about 1/3rd. I would like to think it is higher.

Quote from: red_dirt on July 25, 2015, 03:13:26 PM
The fact is, many native Hispanics are not crazy about the open border policy.
I take that to be the main reason Washington has thrown open the borders in such a frenzy -- a race against time to outnumber the legal Hispanics.

That would account for the media strategy to twist the words around and cry raysissm. In typical liberal fashion, they stereotype the Hispanics as language challenged, where the truth is, most Hispanics speak better English than Obama.

That is why it isn't working for the media this time around.  Everyone is savvy to the spin!

Quote from: redbeard on July 25, 2015, 03:17:38 PM
Not saying it can't happen but I would expect the republican share of the Hispanic vote to be about 1/3rd. I would like to think it is higher.

You might be pleasantly surprised.  The hispanics are no dummies!  They know spin when they hear it.   

Quote from: redbeard on July 25, 2015, 02:28:13 PM
One of the things not being covered properly is if Trump can pull 31% of the Hispanic voters that is about as high as anyone in the republican party could draw. No one, not even Ted Cruz will do much better then that considering how many Hispanics are receiving public money!!

Don't be fooled by the Marxist created term "Hispanic", it was by design, to create a subgroup of voters.
Divide and conquer!

Hispanic: Related to a Spanish-speaking people or culture.
In other words, if your ancestors centuries separated from Spain, came via Europe, to the US, and your name happens to be martinez, you are suddenly a minority.

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2015, 03:43:59 PM
Don't be fooled...

I can bear that out, living in SE Colorado amidst land grant ranchers into their 15th  and 17th generations. Sometimes I look at some of those royal visages and think I am in a Hollywood casting call. You know, Don Carlo, the whole bit. The ladies, well, that's another story. There are towns around these parts, like San Luis, where time has stood still.

Quote from: red_dirt on July 25, 2015, 04:14:35 PM
I can bear that out, living in SE Colorado amidst land grant ranchers into their 15th  and 17th generations. Sometimes I look at some of those royal visages and think I am in a Hollywood casting call. You know, Don Carlo, the whole bit. The ladies, well, that's another story. There are towns around these parts, like San Luis, where time has stood still.

A dear friend of mine named Mike Martinez, "Whiter than white, with red hair", hated being associated with the group Hispanic, especially considering his family dates back to Spain's Royalty centuries ago.

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2015, 04:29:57 PM
A dear friend of mine named Mike Martinez, "Whiter than white, with red hair", hated being associated with the group Hispanic, especially considering his family dates back to Spain's Royalty centuries ago.

Honestly, I haven't figured out the formula. I have resorted to outright asking the individual, "How are you called?" Gradually the newcomer in me will wear off and it will sink in that those categories have no meaning, in real life.

Quote from: red_dirt on July 25, 2015, 06:39:34 PM
Honestly, I haven't figured out the formula. I have resorted to outright asking the individual, "How are you called?" Gradually the newcomer in me will wear off and it will sink in that those categories have no meaning, in real life.

Bingo!!!!

Quote from: Solar on July 25, 2015, 04:29:57 PM
A dear friend of mine named Mike Martinez, "Whiter than white, with red hair", hated being associated with the group Hispanic, especially considering his family dates back to Spain's Royalty centuries ago.

I worked with a Spanish-American who was disgusted by Mexicans speaking spanish in a Mexican-accent.  We'd switch to a Latino-radio channel sometimes, and he'd erupt in a mocking-rant about a word-or-phrase periodically, explaining the differences to me.

Hmm...  So do we have a democrat running as a republican, or is he just a RINO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jYZ-c7j6kGA

Quote from: walkstall on July 26, 2015, 10:28:51 AM
Hmm...  So do we have a democrat running as a republican, or is he just a RINO?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jYZ-c7j6kGA

I am getting a little tired of Trump. He is spending too much time deriding other GOP candidates. I don't think he is a dem or GOP. I think he is just an opportunist.

Quote from: supsalemgr on July 26, 2015, 10:50:37 AM
I am getting a little tired of Trump. He is spending too much time deriding other GOP candidates. I don't think he is a dem or GOP. I think he is just an opportunist.

The people actually think he is giving the media the finger, when in fact the media is giving us the finger by using Trump as a distraction.
However, I see it as a win for Conservatives in the long run by exposing the RINO and their hypocrisy and lies.
I give him a month and people will once again, forget Trump was even in the running.

We can all hope, solar!!   

Quote from: kroz on July 26, 2015, 12:07:33 PM
We can all hope, solar!!   

She dropped out nearly two months ago to the dissappointment of her fan base grassroots movement that had raised a dismal amout from lack of interest.
Which may have been why she dropped out.