Quote from: redbeard on July 22, 2015, 07:05:37 PM
Does Trump hire construction companies or have his own? You really think he can watch all the sub contractor crews?

I'm not sure, taking an educated guess I imagine he has a core group of architects, on site supervisors, project mangers etc and hires subcontractors for a lot of the finish work. I would guess that these contracts are awarded on some sort of sealed bid process.

Do I think he can watch all his sub contractor crews... no, thats is where his supervisory staff and project mangers comes in. But if he wants to start taking (well deserved) pot shots at various Congresscritters then he should take steps to get his house in order and at least DEMONSTRATE HE IS TAKING STEPS THAT SUCH DOESN'T HAPPEN.

At  least write it into the contracts that any subs will only use DOCUMENTED LABORERS, no illegals WITH THE RIGHT OF INSPECTION BY HIS PEOPLE or they lose the contract.

Quote from: redbeard on July 22, 2015, 07:05:37 PM
Does Trump hire construction companies or have his own? You really think he can watch all the sub contractor crews?

It's incumbent upon Trump to see that those he hires follow the rules/law, and when the media releases the list of illegals working in a subcontractor relationship with Trump Inc, that will be the end of Trump.

I don't doubt there's an illegal in there somewhere, and if there isn't, the RINO/Leftists will plant one.
But yes, Trump is responsible for what his contractors, sub contractors do, that's business as normal, unlike the Marxist in the WH where he refuses to accept blame.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 23, 2015, 06:41:20 AMAt  least write it into the contracts that any subs will only use DOCUMENTED LABORERS, no illegals WITH THE RIGHT OF INSPECTION BY HIS PEOPLE or they lose the contract.

Most states have some serious requirements, when it comes to building.  It would be foolish for any contractor to hire a sub-contractor who hasn't been vetted.  They have to be licensed and insured.  That also includes carrying workmen's comp insurance on their employees.  If anything goes wrong on a job, the liability always falls back on the original contractor.  I worked for a contractor for several years.  Part of my job was to be sure the sub-contractors had all their documentation in order and were following the law. 

Quote from: Dori on July 23, 2015, 06:38:13 AM
He certainly is tapping into something.  He just throws it out there, unscripted, and doesn't back down. 

It would do some of our "polite" candidates to take note of that.  Christie used to be a little that way, but even he seems to have mellowed out.

Yes, the Establishment convinced Christie that he had to be polite to win!

Actually, Christie was bad about attacking the voters instead of his opponents!

Quote from: keyboarder on July 22, 2015, 07:01:44 PM
...  Graham should be too busy reading over the terms of that "Iran Deal" to be acting like such a child with Trump. 

Why? All he needs to know about it is "which way do I vote?",and "Has the deposit cleared?"

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 23, 2015, 06:41:20 AM
I'm not sure, taking an educated guess I imagine he has a core group of architects, on site supervisors, project mangers etc and hires subcontractors for a lot of the finish work. I would guess that these contracts are awarded on some sort of sealed bid process.

Do I think he can watch all his sub contractor crews... no, thats is where his supervisory staff and project mangers comes in. But if he wants to start taking (well deserved) pot shots at various Congresscritters then he should take steps to get his house in order and at least DEMONSTRATE HE IS TAKING STEPS THAT SUCH DOESN'T HAPPEN.

At  least write it into the contracts that any subs will only use DOCUMENTED LABORERS, no illegals WITH THE RIGHT OF INSPECTION BY HIS PEOPLE or they lose the contract.

Amen brother,amen!

Quote from: Dori on July 23, 2015, 06:50:27 AM
Most states have some serious requirements, when it comes to building.  It would be foolish for any contractor to hire a sub-contractor who hasn't been vetted.  They have to be licensed and insured.  That also includes carrying workmen's comp insurance on their employees.  If anything goes wrong on a job, the liability always falls back on the original contractor.  I worked for a contractor for several years.  Part of my job was to be sure the sub-contractors had all their documentation in order and were following the law.

A few years ago a Minority Contractor (read: Affirmative Action millionaire) at the Norfolk Naval Yard that had supposedly been highlighted in a local news magazine for his Ferrari and lavish lifestyle lost his contract after it was discovered he was hiring illegal aliens to do the work at US union wages,and paying them much less than the books showed. Some of these illegals were doing pure labor jobs like cleaning out the water and toilet tanks,but some of this guys employees were installing computers and classified software in warships. The article I read about this never did make it clear if any of the people doing the software installs were illegals working under fake names and SS numbers,but the truth is even the laborers who were discovered to be working under false ID's were given badges to allow them into the secure areas so they could do their work.

This is a base where nuclear carriers and subs tie up for repairs and modifications.

I have no idea if the "stylish man about town" ever went to prison,or not. Probably not. I'm guessing he cut a deal to inform on the people that took cash to look the other way.

Quote from: sneakypete on July 23, 2015, 03:34:08 PM
A few years ago a Minority Contractor (read: Affirmative Action millionaire) at the Norfolk Naval Yard that had supposedly been highlighted in a local news magazine for his Ferrari and lavish lifestyle lost his contract after it was discovered he was hiring illegal aliens to do the work at US union wages,and paying them much less than the books showed. Some of these illegals were doing pure labor jobs like cleaning out the water and toilet tanks,but some of this guys employees were installing computers and classified software in warships. The article I read about this never did make it clear if any of the people doing the software installs were illegals working under fake names and SS numbers,but the truth is even the laborers who were discovered to be working under false ID's were given badges to allow them into the secure areas so they could do their work.

This is a base where nuclear carriers and subs tie up for repairs and modifications.

I have no idea if the "stylish man about town" ever went to prison,or not. Probably not. I'm guessing he cut a deal to inform on the people that took cash to look the other way.

Years ago I worked on the uss Kennedy (air craft carrier) overhaul on the navy base in Mayport Florida. One day they raided the work crews and arrested 86 illegals working for sub contractors! They had full access base security ID's and this was in 2002 with all the heightened security on all our bases!
Notices these are not fruit picker jobs but ship overhaul jobs the Illegals were taking let alone the security risks so soon after 9/11! 

Quote from: redbeard on July 23, 2015, 04:01:33 PM
Years ago I worked on the uss Kennedy (air craft carrier) overhaul on the navy base in Mayport Florida. One day they raided the work crews and arrested 86 illegals working for sub contractors! They had full access base security ID's and this was in 2002 with all the heightened security on all our bases!
Notices these are not fruit picker jobs but ship overhaul jobs the Illegals were taking let alone the security risks so soon after 9/11!

Thats real scarey to think that these people are working on classified Govt project, like our nations ships. I wonder how many other are working on classified projects in places like Norfolk or New London.

Quote from: sneakypete on July 23, 2015, 03:24:32 PM
Why? All he needs to know about it is "which way do I vote?",and "Has the deposit cleared?"

Aha!  Everyone here knows how Grahamnesty votes.  It is however the POS in command wants him to vote.  What really surprises me is the fact that he's actually running for president in 2016.  What a shame for the state of SC.  We can do better than this or else.

Watching the market jitters this week, we are reminded of basic differences between the private and public sectors, in spite of the administrations assurances that the political sector is immune from the realities of global finance; it merely has to pass its own laws to null and void the laws of economics, physics, you name it.
That could be one reason for the surge of popularity of the Trump candidacy. Deep down, people understand that sooner or later, the fantasy bubble will burst. There are even a handful of Democrats who understand this, but they are not saying.

One of the panelists on Bret Baier's program tonight caught the essence of the Trump phenomenon...

He said that Trump thinks this is all about "him", but it is really a "protest" phenomenon.  (I paraphrase him.)

Trump is polling high because he is the anti-establishment vote right now!  America is screaming against Washington and everyone there!  Trump is verbalizing what America feels.  ANGER

It is NOT that they love Trump.

Quote from: kroz on July 24, 2015, 04:19:41 PM
One of the panelists on Bret Baier's program tonight caught the essence of the Trump phenomenon...

He said that Trump thinks this is all about "him", but it is really a "protest" phenomenon.  (I paraphrase him.)

Trump is polling high because he is the anti-establishment vote right now!  America is screaming against Washington and everyone there!  Trump is verbalizing what America feels.  ANGER

It is NOT that they love Trump.

That is exactly right!
Trump thinks the country loves him, when in truth they like what he's doing, exposing the hypocrisy of both party's.
Truth is, no one likes the guy, let alone trusts him, but as long as he says what everyone wants said, they'll embrace him.

I love Trump.
The rest of the politician's just pussy foot around the issues.
Trump make it clear what is broke in America.

Quote from: darroll on July 24, 2015, 05:21:45 PM
I love Trump.
The rest of the politician's just pussy foot around the issues.
Trump make it clear what is broke in America.

Keep in mind, we still have 16 months to go, so for a credible candidate to do what he is doing, and expect to remain the darling for 16 months, is pure insanity as well as suicide.
Trump, the flash in the pan, knows he can't maintain this momentum, no matter how hard he tries.
The speed of his rise to the lead, will only be matched by his plummet to the bottom, very soon.