Quote from: kroz on July 21, 2015, 04:11:48 PM
And I believe you just posted this statement on another thread........

Problem is that Congress can write and pass laws it is this administration that has failed to enforce them!

You just made my point.   

Republicans believe in the law and follow it! I hope!!

Quote from: redbeard on July 21, 2015, 04:29:35 PM
Republicans believe in the law and follow it! I hope!!

Trump has an ego equal to Obama's.  We know that that is not an asset in the Oval Office.  A bit of humility would go a long way.

That seems to be the common opinion here, but I don't buy it.

2 things drive powerful men:
Money -- he's got plenty
Power -- becoming the most powerful man on the planet will keep him in the race. If he doesn't get the nomination, he'll go third party.

Quote from: redbeard on July 21, 2015, 03:31:17 PM
I don't think he will take the pay cut! Trump will exit on his own time and when he is still popular enough he can always point to it and say, See I could have won!

Quote from: carlb on July 21, 2015, 04:53:47 PM
That seems to be the common opinion here, but I don't buy it.

2 things drive powerful men:
Money -- he's got plenty
Power -- becoming the most powerful man on the planet will keep him in the race. If he doesn't get the nomination, he'll go third party.

He knows a 3rd party run would guarantee a Hillary win! I think he really does care about what is happening to the country. No he won't split the ticket!

Quote from: redbeard on July 21, 2015, 05:03:07 PM
He knows a 3rd party run would guarantee a Hillary win! I think he really does care about what is happening to the country. No he won't split the ticket!

His ego tells him that he can be the first third party candidate to win.  That would be an even bigger claim to fame!

Quote from: redbeard on July 21, 2015, 05:03:07 PM
He knows a 3rd party run would guarantee a Hillary win! I think he really does care about what is happening to the country. No he won't split the ticket!

But then, you also believe he'll drop out. He won't.

Quote from: kroz on July 21, 2015, 05:09:23 PM
His ego tells him that he can be the first third party candidate to win.  That would be an even bigger claim to fame!

Has anyone seen any numbers on whether or not Trump is hurting our party with independents? Are they even paying attention this early in the game?

Quote from: kroz on July 21, 2015, 04:37:23 PM


Trump has an ego equal to Obama's.  We know that that is not an asset in the Oval Office.  A bit of humility would go a long way.

I agree. Having a ego the size of the universe and temper and mouth to match is NOT  a good thing for a politician that has the ability to screw up and cause tens of millions of people to die.

Trump cares nothing about anyone but Trump,and he is in it for the ego boost and for a cash payoff down the line. No way he actually wants to win because he would be banned from doing any of his scams the whole time he would be in office.

As someone else wrote on another board a few days ago,"Trump might make an excellent Sec of the US Treasury,though. There is nobody that knows more about bankruptcy than Trump,and America is virtually bankrupt."

Quote from: darroll on July 21, 2015, 11:05:03 AM
I know Nam very well. The Mia issue:
Some of the troops stayed in country and got their discharges and ten grand. They took their girlfriend, jumped on a Honda and went to China. They had enough of America.
Others went to Malaysia.

Don't forget Thailand...there is a huge American Expat Community in Thailand, there are at least three American ex soldiers in Thailand (still living in 2003)who are listed as MIA...they deserted...State Dept knows about them too....wont touch two of them as they became Monks living in a monestary which is inviolate in Thailand.

Quote from: carlb on July 21, 2015, 05:17:04 PM
But then, you also believe he'll drop out. He won't.

Trump doesn't deal well with defeat at all, and staying in the race after his time in the spotlight fades? He's a smart man, he'll quietly bow out while throwing his support behind a candidate.
Problem is, there's just no telling who he would support, because politically and ideologically speaking, the guy is all over the freakin map.
He's no Conservative, people need to remember that.

Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2015, 09:00:36 PM
And I say McCain is a fuckin liar and a traitor to America, not because of Nam, but what he's done in later years, outright lying to get elected, so anything he did, where he claims to have done all he could, says he lied, as evidenced below.

These were not deserters, they were abandoned by the very committee Johnny was on.
In my book, he's a traitor!

Agreed McCain has gone to the darkside...this shamnesty issue will bring America down....

HOWEVER

If anyone abandoned any POW's it was the Nixon Adminstration, Jerry Ford and that Boob Jimmy Carter. There was a lOT of money spent by private groups, Ross Perot and others to try an bring out a LIVE POW.....I know of a group of American Ex Pats living in Thailand who put up 50 grand, a payoff to any Laotian or Vietnamese official...or any group of local bounty hunters, hill tribes etc who could deliver a LIVE POW...never happened, if there was a live POW that much money IN ASIA would have produced one...instead what they got were chicken bones, scraps of clothing and a few misc artifacts....

I firmly believe none were alive after 1975.

As to deserters, the following articles should shed the light on what I'm refering to. When committee's and intelligence services start dealing with scum like this Garwood guy and charletan's like Bo Giritz who are totally unreliable what can you expect.

http://www.miafacts.org/grwd_4.htm

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-07-09/news/9307090202_1_pow-mia-robert-garwood-sen-robert-smith

Quote from: sneakypete on July 21, 2015, 06:00:52 PM
I agree. Having a ego the size of the universe and temper and mouth to match is NOT  a good thing for a politician that has the ability to screw up and cause tens of millions of people to die.

Trump cares nothing about anyone but Trump,and he is in it for the ego boost and for a cash payoff down the line. No way he actually wants to win because he would be banned from doing any of his scams the whole time he would be in office.

As someone else wrote on another board a few days ago,"Trump might make an excellent Sec of the US Treasury,though. There is nobody that knows more about bankruptcy than Trump,and America is virtually bankrupt."

Welcome to the forum Pete.

Quote from: kroz on July 21, 2015, 04:34:30 AM
yep, no real heroes in that list with maybe the exception of Bush.

I was talking with people last night about our changing definition of "hero".

This may anger some BUT, we call way, way too many people "heroes"!

Just because someone puts on a firefighter suit ....... we proclaim him a "HERO".

When someone does the humane thing and helps someone in distress.... we call him a HERO.

When a child dials 911 ...... we call them a HERO.

On and on the list goes.  Everyone and his dog has been a "hero" at one time or another.

Is that REALLY what it means to be a hero?  Not by traditional definition.  This is the NEW definition.

Just like everything else in this country..... hero has been dumbed down.

I know who isn't on that list who damn sure isn't a Hero and that is TRUMP

Trump is a DRAFT DODGER who got five student deferments and then some type of 4 f status over "bone spurs" or some idiotic thing.

Trump has no standing to talk about McCain or anybody else for that matter in my book....and no way I would ever vote for Trump to begin with not because of this little te a te either.

Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2015, 06:16:13 PM
Trump doesn't deal well with defeat at all, and staying in the race after his time in the spotlight fades? He's a smart man, he'll quietly bow out while throwing his support behind a candidate.
Problem is, there's just no telling who he would support, because politically and ideologically speaking, the guy is all over the freakin map.
He's no Conservative, people need to remember that.

I don't know...... I agree with most of what you say but I am beginning to think he may not drop out.

It has gotten too big now..... his poll numbers are an adrenalin fix for him now.  He needs more and more.

Even if he wanted "out" I think he doesn't have a viable exit strategy.  He would have mud all over his face.

I think he has passed the point of "no return".....   He is committed.   And I don't think he is looking for an "out".

Quote from: redbeard on July 21, 2015, 02:51:10 PM

Now that is clever and funny! I'll bet Graham is pissed!! Got the phone number from Graham himself looking for money and support!!

This incident aired on our local WORD cons radio station this afternoon.  i almost fell out laughing at Vince Copley who was the emcee.  He got money penny (an aide) to call the number that Graham gave him.  The phone was answered (not changed after all these years) by answering machine and the mail box was full.  Bet that number will be changed tomorrow.  I also bet that Graham won't take any more pot shots at Trump either.