Most of the politicians are afraid of Trump.
You can't talk thru both sides of your mouth with Trump around.
Hope he does not scare the babies.

Quote from: kroz on July 20, 2015, 04:28:02 PM
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the running mate for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)43%
's (R-AZ) 2008 presidential campaign, weighed in on the dispute between McCain and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, posting a message on her Facebook page calling both men heroes and encouraging them to "resolve the media-driven wedge between them."
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/07/20/sarah-palin-donald-trump-and-john-mccain-both-heroes-should-apologize/

No one ever accused Sarah of ducking the hard sell.   

Quote from: kroz on July 19, 2015, 04:40:02 PM
So, you say he "uses" his war status to accomplish ulterior motives?  Do real heroes do that?

Do you think WWII vets would make a practice of that?

Kerry, McCain, Eisenhower, Bush, .... resume builders..

Quote from: kroz on July 20, 2015, 04:28:02 PM
Former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the running mate for Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)43%
's (R-AZ) 2008 presidential campaign, weighed in on the dispute between McCain and Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, posting a message on her Facebook page calling both men heroes and encouraging them to "resolve the media-driven wedge between them."

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2015/07/20/sarah-palin-donald-trump-and-john-mccain-both-heroes-should-apologize/

I've always loved Sarah Palin!

We got scammed by the MSM again. If you dare, listen to Dana loesch's interview with Trump. The media selectively edtited Trump's words. The more they do this, the more I like Trump when I learn the truth

http://www.971talk.com/media/podcasts/monday-july-20-hour

Quote from: mrclose on July 20, 2015, 05:03:39 PM
I'm a nam vet and the guy who crowned my step daughter (As Miss Mechanicsville) was also a pow and is a family friend .. He has nothing good to say about McLame.

He was at the Hilton when McLame was, for seven years.

Paul E. Galanti

http://www.nampows.org/pgbio.html

Why

Quote from: Solar on July 19, 2015, 07:33:30 PM
All too much has gone unanswered, more questions created than answered.

See Reply #235

In all Fairness to MCCain he was not the only one involved in that POW/MIA Debacle, you had the State Dept (Traditional leftist assholes) IDIOTS at the Pentagon And half a hundred different "citizen" groups a lot of whom were scam artists and exploiters (Like Bo Giritz) Then again, when this committee was active in the 1990's, McCain had already cleared the path for recovery of POW rEMAINS IN 1986.

So I have to look at what accomplishments he made, ie: Actual recovery of remains of American MIA's) rather so much than what he said or is alleged to have Obstructed.

Last but not least, SOmewhere in between all this is the FACT that many MIA and "POW'S" actually were deserters and a few of the POW's went over to the other side.

Such issues are well documented by the STATE DEPT who seems to want to keep a lot of that quiet.

Quote from: mrclose on July 20, 2015, 05:52:36 PM
No idea.

Being a gentleman (Paul) keeps it to himself and only hints to his friends when asked.

Paul only says that a lot of the McLame story was fabricated and lots of the real truth was 'omitted'.

Interesting....the Bio says he worked with McCain during the Campaign....I wonder if that is when he soured.

ALso this Guy sounds like HE should  be running for office....he'd have my vote!

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 20, 2015, 05:26:28 PM

In all Fairness to MCCain he was not the only one involved in that POW/MIA Debacle, you had the State Dept (Traditional leftist assholes) IDIOTS at the Pentagon And half a hundred different "citizen" groups a lot of whom were scam artists and exploiters (Like Bo Giritz) Then again, when this committee was active in the 1990's, McCain had already cleared the path for recovery of POW rEMAINS IN 1986.

So I have to look at what accomplishments he made, ie: Actual recovery of remains of American MIA's) rather so much than what he said or is alleged to have Obstructed.

Last but not least, SOmewhere in between all this is the FACT that many MIA and "POW'S" actually were deserters and a few of the POW's went over to the other side.

Such issues are well documented by the STATE DEPT who seems to want to keep a lot of that quiet.

And I say McCain is a fuckin liar and a traitor to America, not because of Nam, but what he's done in later years, outright lying to get elected, so anything he did, where he claims to have done all he could, says he lied, as evidenced below.

QuoteThe devices were primarily motion sensors, dropped by air, designed to pick up enemy troop movements. But they also had rescue capabilities. Someone on the ground–a downed airman or a prisoner on a labor gang–could manually enter data into the sensor, which were regularly collected electronically by US planes flying overhead. Alfond stated, without any challenge from the committee, that in 1974, a year after the supposedly complete return of prisoners, the gathered data showed that a person or people had manually entered into the sensors–as US pilots had been trained to do–"no less than 20 authenticator numbers that corresponded exactly to the classified authenticator numbers of 20 US POW/MIAs who were lost in Laos." Alfond added, says the transcript: "This PAVE SPIKE intelligence is seamless, but the committee has not discussed it or released what it knows about PAVE SPIKE."

These were not deserters, they were abandoned by the very committee Johnny was on.
In my book, he's a traitor!

Quote from: kroz on July 20, 2015, 01:41:58 PM
No Trump slump for his McCain remarks.....

http://whotv.com/2015/07/20/weekend-iowa-poll-no-trump-slump-for-mccain-remarks/

His poll numbers just continue to grow......  well, at least they are not going down!   

Amazing!  Don't think I'd vote for Trump but I'm getting a bang outta' whatever verbal bomb he wants to drop next.  Like it or not, Trump is saying what needs to be said.  Maybe some of the rest of that longggggg list of candidates will man up and say what they mean and mean what they say.  Trump is not dependent on money from anybody.  Matter of fact, he's not gonna' run out of that stuff any time soon.  This is what the big deal is, money.  Sure, some of the rest have war chests and big time donors but Trump doesn't and doesn't need any of that.  When the smoke clears, he'll still have his many friends and people wanting to suck up to him plus most of his money-still not tapped into. 

Quote from: red_dirt on July 20, 2015, 05:10:06 PM
Kerry, McCain, Eisenhower, Bush, .... resume builders..

yep, no real heroes in that list with maybe the exception of Bush.

I was talking with people last night about our changing definition of "hero".

This may anger some BUT, we call way, way too many people "heroes"!

Just because someone puts on a firefighter suit ....... we proclaim him a "HERO".

When someone does the humane thing and helps someone in distress.... we call him a HERO.

When a child dials 911 ...... we call them a HERO.

On and on the list goes.  Everyone and his dog has been a "hero" at one time or another.

Is that REALLY what it means to be a hero?  Not by traditional definition.  This is the NEW definition.

Just like everything else in this country..... hero has been dumbed down.

Quote from: kroz on July 21, 2015, 04:34:30 AM
yep, no real heroes in that list with maybe the exception of Bush.

I was talking with people last night about our changing definition of "hero".

This may anger some BUT, we call way, way too many people "heroes"!

Just because someone puts on a firefighter suit ....... we proclaim him a "HERO".

When someone does the humane thing and helps someone in distress.... we call him a HERO.

When a child dials 911 ...... we call them a HERO.

On and on the list goes.  Everyone and his dog has been a "hero" at one time or another.

Is that REALLY what it means to be a hero?  Not by traditional definition.  This is the NEW definition.

Just like everything else in this country..... hero has been dumbed down.

That was my point earlier, that the term is thrown around like a dried up sail cat, serves no other purpose that headline creation.
Sports hero, porn star, same category.

Quote from: Solar on July 21, 2015, 05:01:26 AM
That was my point earlier, that the term is thrown around like a dried up sail cat, serves no other purpose that headline creation.
Sports hero, porn star, same category.

Yes, the word totally loses it's "punch" when it is diluted in such a way.

We have to create a new word to capture the true intent of the original word.  I guess it is now just "super hero".   

Quote from: kroz on July 21, 2015, 05:06:32 AM
Yes, the word totally loses it's "punch" when it is diluted in such a way.

We have to create a new word to capture the true intent of the original word.  I guess it is now just "super hero".   

How sad is that? Ordinary hero's are so passe....

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 20, 2015, 06:03:19 PM

Interesting....the Bio says he worked with McCain during the Campaign....I wonder if that is when he soured.

ALso this Guy sounds like HE should  be running for office....he'd have my vote!

This article explains McCain's dirty little secret....

http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/mccain-and-the-pow-cover-up/