Trump is in......

Started by kroz, June 16, 2015, 09:12:43 AM

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kroz

Macy's Department Stores announced today that they are dumping Trump merchandise because of his politics.

Also today, I dropped my Macy's account because of their foolish and needlessly public politics.  I told them I am not a Donald Trump fan.  But now I like Donald Trump better than Macy's.  I will shop elsewhere from now on.

carlb

I heard on the "news" today that all these "scandals" are really going tu hurt Trump and the GOP in general. I JUST DON'T SEE IT.

I do realize that I'm a rebel, and a "right-wing nut," but to me all this make him stand out as a man of principle. I always hear that at least 70% of AMERICANS basically agree with Trump's position on ILLEGAL aliens. I know the MSM doesn't and would LIKE these "scandals" to hurt him.

THE QUESTION IS...

Will these words of Trump come back to kill him as a candidate, or do they move him to the lead as far as the American People are concerned? I think it's the latter.


Quote from: kroz on July 01, 2015, 03:06:33 PM
Macy's Department Stores announced today that they are dumping Trump merchandise because of his politics.

Also today, I dropped my Macy's account because of their foolish and needlessly public politics.  I told them I am not a Donald Trump fan.  But now I like Donald Trump better than Macy's.  I will shop elsewhere from now on.

walkstall

Quote from: carlb on July 01, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
I heard on the "news" today that all these "scandals" are really going tu hurt Trump and the GOP in general. I JUST DON'T SEE IT.

I do realize that I'm a rebel, and a "right-wing nut," but to me all this make him stand out as a man of principle. I always hear that at least 70% of AMERICANS basically agree with Trump's position on ILLEGAL aliens. I know the MSM doesn't and would LIKE these "scandals" to hurt him.

THE QUESTION IS...

Will these words of Trump come back to kill him as a candidate, or do they move him to the lead as far as the American People are concerned? I think it's the latter.

I don't think Trump give a rat ass one way or the other.  Trump is getting the truth out.  The MSM, Lib's and RINO don't like it and Trump is enjoying every bit of it.   It's all free publicity and stirs the  public interest all for free. 
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Darth Fife

Quote from: carlb on July 01, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
I heard on the "news" today that all these "scandals" are really going tu hurt Trump and the GOP in general. I JUST DON'T SEE IT.

I do realize that I'm a rebel, and a "right-wing nut," but to me all this make him stand out as a man of principle. I always hear that at least 70% of AMERICANS basically agree with Trump's position on ILLEGAL aliens. I know the MSM doesn't and would LIKE these "scandals" to hurt him.

THE QUESTION IS...

Will these words of Trump come back to kill him as a candidate, or do they move him to the lead as far as the American People are concerned? I think it's the latter.

I think it all depends on just how serious The Donald is about this election. If this is just a publicity stunt and he isn't that serious about it, once he thinks he's gotten as much press out of it as he can, he'll withdraw.

However...

If he is serious about the election and winning the presidency, God help anyone who opposes him - in either party! He plays to win and he can (and does) play as "dirty" as he needs to to get what he wants! Unlike Mittens, he won't pull any punches. He'll go for the jugular every time!

If 2016 is between Trump and Clinton, he will mop the floor with her!

carlb

Quote from: Darth Fife on July 01, 2015, 03:49:37 PM
I think it all depends on just how serious The Donald is about this election. If this is just a publicity stunt and he isn't that serious about it, once he thinks he's gotten as much press out of it as he can, he'll withdraw.

However...

If he is serious about the election and winning the presidency, God help anyone who opposes him - in either party! He plays to win and he can (and does) play as "dirty" as he needs to to get what he wants! Unlike Mittens, he won't pull any punches. He'll go for the jugular every time!

If 2016 is between Trump and Clinton, he will mop the floor with her!

I heard another libtard theory on the "news" that Trump is really doing this to help Jeb. Supposedly, he's trying to steal the votes that woud go to the "wacko-bird" (Tea Party candidates) to help Bush win the primaries.

I don't believe that for an instant. I do think he's dead serious, and he's in it to win. I think he believes he the smartest man alive, and the most qualified.

I's gonna be an interesting race!

Norseman

Quote from: Solar on June 17, 2015, 02:50:09 PM
Trump has much to offer as a spoiler in killing off RINO, but truth is, he's no Conservative/.
If anything, he could easily be considered a crony capitalist, one that not only supported TARP, but the auto baliouts as well.

Like ...I think it was Taxed deferred to him as another Mitten- RINO.-

I remember him calling into Fox and friends, and it was mentioned, that He did vote for Obama during the first election,
which in my mind makes him a Democrat.

I dont think He seriously thinks He will be elected. I think He is just a first class narcissist and want the attention.

What I like is He isnt afraid to bring up issues, whether they are politically correct or not. I think He is good for the WH race and will make it interesting.

Solar

Quote from: Norseman on July 01, 2015, 04:54:33 PM
I remember him calling into Fox and friends, and it was mentioned, that He did vote for Obama during the first election,
which in my mind makes him a Democrat.

I dont think He seriously thinks He will be elected. I think He is just a first class narcissist and want the attention.

What I like is He isnt afraid to bring up issues, whether they are politically correct or not. I think He is good for the WH race and will make it interesting.
Exactly!

Though I think the LSM sees him as a tool of divisiveness in TEA and other TEA candidates.
Trump is about as Conservative as the most far Right Marxist the communist party can produce, he works within the system and uses it to his advantage.
Sure, he may talk a good game, but he knows that's all it is, because he playing to the crowd, but he himself, has no actual core values. Again, playing to the crowd.

Trump does absolutely nothing for the right, simply because he's viewed as a joke, and having an idiot jester backing your side, is not something we need.

The LSM WILL be making the link, that TEA aligns with a lying jester, and by process, TEA is a lying movement without values..
Look at Koch, and Koch actually have values, but the LSM still demonized them successfully.

It's what the Marxists do.
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#WWG1WGA

Q PATRIOT!!!

Solar

Case in point. I just stumbled across a perfect example of a planned move by the Marxists, via our latest leftist troll and his willingness to expose the agenda out of bumbling.
He is a perfect example of failed intellect working for the DNC/CPUSA.

Quote from: liberalman on July 01, 2015, 12:03:44 AM
walker is the Koch brothers bitch,   Go trump he is man enough and he is not gonna rely on some man as a sugar daddy.   Back a guy that makes his own money.   Walker depends on the Koch brothers money ,   So when they give him money they expect something.  that is not a man
Official Trump Cult Member

#WWG1WGA

Q PATRIOT!!!

carlb

QuoteSo when they give him money they expect something.  that is not a man 

So he agrees Obama's not a man.

red_dirt

Quote from: carlb on July 01, 2015, 03:28:08 PM
I heard on the "news" today that all these "scandals" are really going tu hurt Trump and the GOP in general. I JUST DON'T SEE IT.

If that proves to be the case, the message is "Put America first, pay the price."

We have to account for the global pressure to drive America down, being they from such diverse sources as the World Bank to the Vatican. Rick Perry is in the news today, mouthing the party line, "We value Mexico as our trading partner." This, after Trump basically called out the whole gang of Texas politicians down there for what they are:
profiteers in the manufacturing business they did zero to create. That goes double for the Bush.
Hopefully, voters will see through Rick Perry's boasting  of what he has done for the Texas economy and recognize him for what he really is, a sell-out.

kroz

Quote from: red_dirt on July 02, 2015, 10:51:25 AM
If that proves to be the case, the message is "Put America first, pay the price."

We have to account for the global pressure to drive America down, being they from such diverse sources as the World Bank to the Vatican. Rick Perry is in the news today, mouthing the party line, "We value Mexico as our trading partner." This, after Trump basically called out the whole gang of Texas politicians down there for what they are:
profiteers in the manufacturing business they did zero to create. That goes double for the Bush.
Hopefully, voters will see through Rick Perry's boasting  of what he has done for the Texas economy and recognize him for what he really is, a sell-out.

Perry was on Baier's Special Report last night and I thought he flopped badly.  He did not come across as a terribly smart fellow.   Fiorina could debate him under the table in five minutes flat!  He really IMHO still has not done his homework.  He is a lot of bluster but not much substance on the National front.

red_dirt

Provided Perry sticks it out that long, when it gets right down to it, the media is sitting on reels and reels of documentation about what Bush and Perry and the Good ol' Boys from Texas and Wall Street did on the Mexican border. JEB and his Mexican wife notwithstanding, those videos are incriminating.

Let's start with the buildup of shops on the Rio Grande. Then we segue into the part about the cartels in  Laredo and El Paso. You know, the part where Americans are petrified to even cross over, much less vacation. Are we listening yet? We have a border that is, in the words of Rick Perry, a wonderful example of diversity and cross cultural trade and exchange with our neighbors South of the Border. Only problem is, cross it, Gringo, and you die.  Yeah, Rick. we are referring to America's number one "trading partner." Is that supposed to be a euphemism for slave wages?  Oh, shoot, we haven't even touched on the auto plants,yet, and union busting.

Do you ever wonder why we give the impression the American negro pushes us around? That's because we are so "intimidated" by the Rev and his Black Panthers.  Sure it is. Get a clue, America!


red_dirt

I've wondered why Trump wasn't blowing the doors down in Texas. Now I think I overlooked the obvious. It's that old Texas resentment that New York is the cultural center while Texans believe they should be the cultural leader. That's why Texas keeps building bigger stadiums, bigger churches, bigger malls, and bigger art museums. Yeah, I think I may finally get it.

You can't pull the US out without pulling NY up along with it. That means getting rid of the Clintons, Jacksons, and Sharptons of this world. Do away with welfare. Cleanse the system of communists and communist subversives, balance the Federal Reserve, to name just a few things Trump could change, and likely would.


quiller

Quote from: red_dirt on July 04, 2015, 09:46:49 AM
I've wondered why Trump wasn't blowing the doors down in Texas. Now I think I overlooked the obvious. It's that old Texas resentment that New York is the cultural center while Texans believe they should be the cultural leader. That's why Texas keeps building bigger stadiums, bigger churches, bigger malls, and bigger art museums. Yeah, I think I may finally get it.

You can't pull the US out without pulling NY up along with it. That means getting rid of the Clintons, Jacksons, and Sharptons of this world. Do away with welfare. Cleanse the system of communists and communist subversives, balance the Federal Reserve, to name just a few things Trump could change, and likely would.

"Get rid of," and cleanse" and "change" got co-mingled rather freely there. Is this your claim, that he'd have such people killed? If so, I'd love to see any proof.

red_dirt

#119
Looking for a spook under every rock, are you, Quiller, or still riding that old tide of political correctness to invoke suggestions of innuendo and implication? Either way, you get rid of the Sharptons, Jacksons, and Clintons by either voting them out or bringing down the State's Attorney, both of which are actually in full gear, maybe you have read, with all three.  You thought I was referring to assassination?  Dear boy, go back to Netflix, NBC,  and Democratic Underground.

Do away with welfare by growing the economy and putting them back to work. That's a Trump staple, and a conservative one. You thought I had boxcars in mind? My word, you certainly have an active imagination, I'll give you that.

Cleanse the communists by identifying them and electing officials who are not friendly to communists, you know, the De Blasios and Sanders, Obamas and Ayers, even Jarrets, of this arena. See, that's been the problem with communists. They want to do their work, and the only way they can get in is in disguise. Unfortunately, that has changed. But, it is not too late. Cleanse is the right word. You would like to plant the association in people's minds  with genocide or ethnic cleansing? My, boy, you sure do play hardball. Maybe you missed your calling.

And now, for the coup de tat ... "Red Dirt just said he heard Trump is going to kill off the working class and the welfare recipients. Yeah, I read that on CPF." 

How pathetic the technique of putting words in people's mouths and repeating them. What a sorry accommodation of a dumbed down and dependent electorate. No wonder politicians are petrified to speak the truth. Not Donald Trump, though. He is speaking truth, taking the expected consequences, and win lose or draw, he walks away a winner. Hah, don't you know, Donald Trump urged that we strike a better deal with Mexico, and the left wing press reports, "Donald Trump hates Mexicans."  Hah, hah, he probably writes paycheck to more Mexicans and Latinos in a week than any other employer in the world -- legal paychecks. Twisting the words didn't work then, not going to work, now. (I am not claiming Trump is Mexico's largest employer. His developments, though, are international. That's partly what is so ridiculous about the charges. I think he might have triggered this on purpose, knowing that the stupid leftists would walk right in and end up appearing challenged.)

Finally, as we get into it, Trump points out that a great many illegals are potential reformers, (read political troublemakers,) for the handful of ultra rich who control Mexico and its economy. Where is the American compassion for fairness and equality  here, in the form of outrage? Wouldn't you expect the Bushes to rise above the interests of the super rich? I mean, after all, they are Republicans? And Obama, the community organizer. How easy to forget where one came from. Wouldn't you expect the Democratic passion for first generation votes to have some limits? Silly me!