Have you noticed, Trump's 3rd grade level communication skills border on hilarious.
Find one of those quotes, watch the video and then read the text...
Is this guy happy to have graduated the 6th grade? or what?
Is Trump deliberately sounding STUPID to appeal to a STUPID audience? Democrats?Dumb meet dumber? Lucky for Trump "money talks" 'cause he can't.
"Hey, this guy sounds just like one of us Democrats! His vocabulary is as bad as ours! Yippie, we found a man-of-the-people!"
Is that how the Republican party is expanded, dumb down the message for an illiterate, 30 second attention span, electorate?
Someone else noticed, maybe you agree.
Quotehttps://politicalwire.com/2015/08/14/trump-talks-like-a-third-grader/
Jack Shafer: "In the August 6th Republican candidates debate, Trump answered the moderators' questions with linguistic austerity. Run through the Flesch-Kincaid grade-level test, his text of responses score at the 4th-grade reading level. For Trump, that's actually pretty advanced. All the other candidates rated higher, with Ted Cruz earning 9th-grade status. Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, and Scott Walker scored at the 8th-grade level. John Kasich, the next-lowest after Trump, got a 5th-grade score."
"Trump's low grade at the debates wasn't a fluke. His comments from an August 11 news conference in Michigan earned only a 3rd-grade score."
On the flip-side, we now know why the MSM keeps quoting & playing Trump quotes.
They can't understand 9th grade English - Ted Cruz.
My vocabulary is going to be huuuuuugh i'll tell you. You jsut wait and see. The best vocabulary ever, huuuuuugh, huuuuugh, and huuuuugher! The best ever!
He has to do something to appeal to the LIV's.
Have we become a nation akin to a bird nest full of baby chicks - squawking with with our heads in the air, mouths wide open, hoping government will feed us and care for our every need?
Trump - a message of surrender to government, "your gonna love it"
Cruz - a message of independence & self-reliance, "abolish the IRS"
Abolish the IRS & simplify the tax code VS more progressive/regressive taxes.
After 7 years of the latter, you'd think even the dumbest of the dumb could figure that out.
Trump - restrict the internet, curb freedom of speech, sue the media.
Cruz - the amendments are OUR natural rights, not governments permission to restrict our rights.
After 7 years of the least transparent government in history, you'd think the MEDIA would figure that out.... unless News is just Entertainment.
and there's more:
QuoteFlattening the English language whenever he speaks without a script, Trump relies heavily on words such as "very" and "great," and the pronouns "we" and "I," which is his favorite word. As any news observer can observe, he lives to diminish his foes by calling them "losers," "total losers," "haters," "dumb," "idiots," "morons," "stupid," "dummy" and " disgusting." He can't open his mouth without bragging about getting the Clintons to attend his wedding, about how smart he is, the excellence of his real estate projects, the brilliance of his TV show, his generous donations to other political campaigns and so on. In a freakish way, Trump resembles that of Muhammad Ali at his prime—except the champ was always kidding (even when he was right) while Trump seems to believe his claims (and often is wrong). Or perhaps he is afflicted with binary vision disorder, which renders all within his eyeshot either great or rotten.
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Still, don't interpret Trump's low scores as a marker of low intelligence. Trump's professional history indicates a skill at dealing and deceiving, inspiring and selling, and such attributes would likely qualify as a types of intelligence in Howard Gardner's book. The role Trumpspeak has played in Trump's surging polls suggests that perhaps too many politicians talk over the public's head when more should be talking beneath it in the hope of winning elections.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/donald-trump-talks-like-a-third-grader-121340#ixzz43Mj5yIr2
Trump like the low information voter - he's "dealing & deceiving, inspiring & selling".
They expect
Something for nothing, but get nothing for something.
IMO - the people who like Trump fall into 2 classes.
Those who are his elitist friends who will benefit from greater authority & control over the rest.
Says all you need to know about Trump...
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Quote from: Dubinsky on March 19, 2016, 10:59:47 AM
Says all you need to know about Trump...
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Whoever states that these two aren't in bed with each other is lying through their teeth.
Trump and Hillary are on the same team.
Quote from: Bronx on March 19, 2016, 03:18:59 PM
Whoever states that these two aren't in bed with each other is lying through their teeth.
Trump and Hillary are on the same team.
Yeah, they both like women. :lol:
But yeah, no doubt they share the same leftist value system, or lack thereof.
How distasteful it must be for the rich elitist, to go out into the world of commoners and ask for their vote. Having their pleasures interrupted by the filthy poor, those not worthy to stand in their shadow.
That picture, speaks volumes, "This is where -I- belong, these are my people". :thumbdown:
Here's another way one might see the
Trump/Bloomberg/Clinton picture:
Trump has been pretending to like these cretins all along.
Just now he's letting his true sympathies out.
That would explain why the Establishment is so strongly at war with him.
They see him as a traitor.
Instead of "one of them" who's playing us now,
maybe he's "one of us" who's been playing them.
Remember a few years ago,
when the White House hosted a dinner for many foreign leaders
in a tent on the White House lawn.
Trump was embarrassed for America.
He offered to build a banquet hall for such occasions.
He offered to spend $50-60 million OF HIS OWN MONEY to build it!
And the White House wouldn't even return his call!
Well that explains the speaking in half sentences the way Trump does I guess.
I"d thought perhaps,,,,and you know we really ought to make America great again...
:lol:
Quote from: daidalos on March 21, 2016, 07:36:15 AM
Well that explains the speaking in half sentences the way Trump does I guess.
I"d thought perhaps,,,,and you know we really ought to make America great again...
:lol:
It's been bugging me for awhile... Where have we heard people talk like that before?
Now I remember - because I haven't been going to bars for 35 years!
It's that drunk guy saying, "I coulda been a contender...hick!"
There's been all kinds of youtube dubbing of Trump's video clips, now we need a "Drunk Trump".Here's a couple of easy lines - imagine a guy on a barstool, wavering slowly back and forth....
"CCCHina... China is killing us...
hick IRRRan nuke deal... .>belch< Bama is ssssTUpid! I gonna WHin aGain... We gonna wwwwwwhhhin again... Foren polishy..? You wanna talk foren polishy?... I talk to myself... thas right, I talk to ..." - as he passes out and falls over, face on the floor, drooling, assets up, plumber's crack, etc.
That's where I've heard that linguistic style of Trump's before - 1am in a bar, some drunk trying to talk politics.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 19, 2016, 08:30:09 AM
https://politicalwire.com/2015/08/14/trump-talks-like-a-third-grader/
Jack Shafer: "In the August 6th Republican candidates debate,
Trump answered the moderators' questions with linguistic austerity.
Run through the Flesch-Kincaid grade-level test,
his text of responses score at the 4th-grade reading level.
For Trump, that's actually pretty advanced.
All the other candidates rated higher, with Ted Cruz earning 9th-grade status.
Ben Carson, Mike Huckabee, and Scott Walker scored at the 8th-grade level.
John Kasich, the next-lowest after Trump, got a 5th-grade score."
"Trump's low grade at the debates wasn't a fluke.
His comments from an August 11 news conference in Michigan
earned only a 3rd-grade score."
This is not at all out of the ordinary.
One of the first things they teach you in journalism class is
every newspaper wants their writing to be at a 7th grade reading level.
Quote from: je_freedom on March 21, 2016, 05:56:24 PM
This is not at all out of the ordinary.
One of the first things they teach you in journalism class is
every newspaper wants their writing to be at a 7th grade reading level.
It was eighth grade at the two papers where I worked. You don't write down, you write for the broadest possible audience. Since the 1970s this expanded to include those who never learned proper reading skills in Democratic Party schools. In those cases, sixth grade is taxing their skill-set.
Quote from: quiller on March 21, 2016, 07:58:08 PM
It was eighth grade at the two papers where I worked. You don't write down, you write for the broadest possible audience. Since the 1970s this expanded to include those who never learned proper reading skills in Democratic Party schools. In those cases, sixth grade is taxing their skill-set.
Now that sounds like TV 25 or 30 years ago. :lol:
Quote from: walkstall on March 21, 2016, 08:05:29 PM
Now that sounds like TV 25 or 30 years ago. :lol:
It sure was in 1970, in military journalism/TV writing classes I took, and it also held true for radio writing both in and out of service. Then I got into a news job working for a corporate paper and found that writing for eighth-grade adults was almost a luxury, until my editor asked me what the hell I meant with a word like syntax.
Sixth-grade text actually works for commercial TV. You edit and arrange and present and stand back, letting the image do the work. Anything more serious and adult, these days, good luck finding a market. NPR's a no-go zone for actual conservatives; same for the majors.
Trumps Language is appropriate for New York Construction crews who yell and scream at each other above the grinding machinery they use to build his buildings mixed in with a few insults and threats which is common place in NYC/New Jersey area culture.
Whenever I hear Trump I am reminded of dialogue between TV's Tony Soprano and one of his thugs like Paulie Walnuts or Silvio, come to think of it since Trump is hand in glove with a few REAL New York Gangsters this is most appropo.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 22, 2016, 05:42:12 AM
Trumps Language is appropriate for New York Construction crews who yell and scream at each other above the grinding machinery they use to build his buildings mixed in with a few insults and threats which is common place in NYC/New Jersey area culture.
Whenever I hear Trump I am reminded of dialogue between TV's Tony Soprano and one of his thugs like Paulie Walnuts or Silvio, come to think of it since Trump is hand in glove with a few REAL New York Gangsters this is most appropo.
Aside from the communication gap, and the huge policy gap, credibility gap - there may be a honesty gap. While Ted Cruz continues to push policy, Donald Trump's smoke-n-mirror sideshow has degenerated into name-calling. The few issues that garnered national attention, the wall, for instance... are negotionable (surprise!). What you
thought you heard, was exactly
what he wanted you to hear, but
it wasn't what he actually planned on doing.
Speaking of communication gaps (in voter's heads)....
On Obama Care:
Trump says he will "Repeal and Replace with something better" - a single payer system, Obama's end goal. Claims there are well run government healthcare agencies.
Cruz says he will "Repeal ever word of it" eliminate state borders for insurers, expand health savings accounts, and remove the government from the Patient / Doctor relationship. (an immediate cost reduction & better care).
Quote from: Hoofer on March 19, 2016, 08:57:50 AM
Have we become a nation akin to a bird nest full of baby chicks - squawking with with our heads in the air, mouths wide open, hoping government will feed us and care for our every need?
Trump - a message of surrender to government, "your gonna love it"
Cruz - a message of independence & self-reliance, "abolish the IRS"
Abolish the IRS & simplify the tax code VS more progressive/regressive taxes.
After 7 years of the latter, you'd think even the dumbest of the dumb could figure that out.
Trump - restrict the internet, curb freedom of speech, sue the media.
Cruz - the amendments are OUR natural rights, not governments permission to restrict our rights.
After 7 years of the least transparent government in history, you'd think the MEDIA would figure that out.... unless News is just Entertainment.
I believe that Trump said he was going to close every department except for the Veteran's Administration which he would clean up to provide decent service to our veterans.
Whether or not that could be done is another question altogether. I wonder if that money he raised ever got to the veterans.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 22, 2016, 05:42:12 AM
Whenever I hear Trump I am reminded of dialogue between TV's Tony Soprano and one of his thugs like Paulie Walnuts or Silvio, come to think of it since Trump is hand in glove with a few REAL New York Gangsters this is most appropo.
But... that kind of wordsmithing is what's needed for
bills, tax-laws, government contracts, ballot-issues, etc.
Cruz's biggest applauses come after he says:
I'm going to reduce your tax-form to the size of a postcard.
Quote from: Charliemyboy on March 25, 2016, 01:01:50 PM
I believe that Trump said he was going to close every department except for the Veteran's Administration which he would clean up to provide decent service to our veterans.
Whether or not that could be done is another question altogether. I wonder if that money he raised ever got to the veterans.
Trump can't close any Departments. The VA is part of the Department of Defense.
Quote from: Dori on March 25, 2016, 04:13:34 PM
Trump can't close any Departments. The VA is part of the Department of Defense.
Just throwing stuff out there, seeing what sticks - to get elected. God help us as a nation.
Quote from: Hoofer on March 26, 2016, 08:14:54 AM
Just throwing stuff out there, seeing what sticks - to get elected. God help us as a nation.
I know, but there is a lot of red meat Trump throws out there, that he can't do, without congress. Sadly, he doesn't even know what the limits are of the executive branch, and apparently his supporters don't either.
Quote from: Dori on March 26, 2016, 08:26:29 AM
I know, but there is a lot of red meat Trump throws out there, that he can't do, without congress. Sadly, he doesn't even know what the limits are of the executive branch, and apparently his supporters don't either.
A constitutionally ignorant electorate would cheer on - or demand - Trump exercise powers he doesn't have.
So short sighted, they are willing to surrender the Bill of Rights for a loaf of bread.Initially, Trump sounded good for me, but without any basis in constitutional law, and his outlandish statements on the 1st & 2nd Amendments, how could ANYONE on these forums possibly vote for him? The same shrill voices who denounced the "Internet Kill Switch" Obama proposed,
would actually support a guy who has openly called for restricting their Freedom of Speech? Trump didn't couch his desire in carefully crafted words, he said it very directly.
Such a thinned skinned man will move quickly to shut down dissent. The first time one of these bloggers criticizes a pet Trump policy, they'll be effectively silenced. Ignorantly they tossed aside the Bill of Rights for someone they thought would "get even" with the Washington establishment, not recognizing
we are all protected by the same rights.By contrast, Ted Cruz has stated the same laws that govern the rest of America will also govern those in Washington. The healthcare they're currently exempt from, will apply to them (then, they'll move quickly to abolish it). Once Ted takes away the Elitists' perks for working in Washington - many of these stupid laws that restrict us will begin falling away... and they will hesitate before saddling themselves with more stupid legislation. I don't want to "get even" - I'd rather level the playing field, eliminate the elitism entirely, return this nation to
a government of the people, by the people. Get rid of this current government elitism and class envy.
Doesn't it strike you as odd to address a letter to a Senator or Representative - people who are suppose to be serving YOU as, "The Honorable ......"? And, the
condescending reply is a form letter,
'you're an idiot, this is above your pay grade, we're running the show, take a hike.' These guys just voted in taxation, and numerous government entanglements & programs without the money to pay for them! "Honorable..." for what?!?
This ought to be a no-brainer,
Freedom vs Getting even.
Thinking of the Future or thinking of Revenge.
Ted Cruz or Donald Trump.
I get the impression... Obama envies the government of Cuba and Argentina - like he's a king speaking to his subjects. Funny.... I get the same impression from Donald Trump.
This article is a chilling example of Trump attempting to squelch Freedom of Speech.
http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-Editorials/232130/trumps-assault-on-freedom-of-speech
QuoteOne of the more disturbing pronouncements from Donald Trump recently - and there have been so many of them - was his assault on the First Amendment. As president, Trump would allow no dissent, he declared.
Trump has threatened to sue anyone he can't buy off who would otherwise be critical.
Let that sink in... Palin... Carson... Christie... Fox News...
QuoteDonald Trump, oversensitive to criticism and to hearing his own words repeated back to him, doesn't get that.
As Walter Olsen noted: "Donald Trump has been filing and threatening lawsuits to shut up critics and adversaries over the whole course of his career. He dragged reporter Tim O'Brien through years of litigation over a relatively favorable Trump biography that assigned a lower valuation to his net worth than he thought it should have ... He used the threat of litigation to get an investment firm to fire an analyst who correctly predicted that the Taj Mahal casino would not be a financial success. He sued comedian Bill Maher over a joke."
Donald Trump is now threatening publications that editorialize against him. He said of the Washington Post, "If I become president, oh, do they have problems."
I recommend reading the article, it's short and to the point, and gives
good insight into the mindset of Donald Trump's insistence that his "image" be not tarnished. What is Donald Trump going to do with all these protesters, who's images have been caught on camera? How about the guy or gal holding up a "Dump the Trump" sign? When he backs away from the Mexico wall, and his current support turns "sour" - will they utter a word of dissent and face Trump's wrath?
QuoteHe dragged reporter Tim O'Brien through years of litigation over a relatively favorable Trump biography that assigned a lower valuation to his net worth than he thought it should have ...
Let that sink in... he wants to be "President of the free world"... do we really want this kind of man in such a powerful position?Update: Bill Maher Endorses Ted Cruz: "Better Ted Than Dead"
Even a comedian values his/her Free Speech...
Quote from: Hoofer on March 26, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
This article is a chilling example of Trump attempting to squelch Freedom of Speech.
http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-Editorials/232130/trumps-assault-on-freedom-of-speech
Trump has threatened to sue anyone he can't buy off who would otherwise be critical. Let that sink in... Palin... Carson... Christie... Fox News...
I recommend reading the article, it's short and to the point, and gives good insight into the mindset of Donald Trump's insistence that his "image" be not tarnished. What is Donald Trump going to do with all these protesters, who's images have been caught on camera? How about the guy or gal holding up a "Dump the Trump" sign? When he backs away from the Mexico wall, and his current support turns "sour" - will they utter a word of dissent and face Trump's wrath?
Let that sink in... he wants to be "President of the free world"... do we really want this kind of man in such a powerful position?
Update: Bill Maher Endorses Ted Cruz: "Better Ted Than Dead"
Even a comedian values his/her Free Speech...
Great stuff as aways Hoof :thumbsup:
Quote from: Hoofer on March 26, 2016, 09:48:49 AM
This article is a chilling example of Trump attempting to squelch Freedom of Speech.
http://www.tylerpaper.com/TP-Editorials/232130/trumps-assault-on-freedom-of-speech
Trump wants to squelch free speech and so do the Justice Warriors. He thinks like a liberal.
Quote from: Dori on March 26, 2016, 11:56:28 AM
Trump wants to squelch free speech and so do the Justice Warriors. He thinks like a liberal.
Bingo!!!
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Quote from: Dori on March 26, 2016, 08:26:29 AM
I know, but there is a lot of red meat Trump throws out there, that he can't do, without congress. Sadly, he doesn't even know what the limits are of the executive branch, and apparently his supporters don't either.
Does anyone here recall that classic moment when someone asked (now former) Attorney General Eric Holder to point out the Constitutional basis for Executive Orders...and he couldn't do it? Sadly, Trump isn't the first Democrat with that problem.... :wink:
Quote from: quiller on March 26, 2016, 01:45:20 PM
Does anyone here recall that classic moment when someone asked (now former) Attorney General Eric Holder to point out the Constitutional basis for Executive Orders...and he couldn't do it? Sadly, Trump isn't the first Democrat with that problem.... :wink:
Trump and the Constitution go together like a pimp and morals. :biggrin:
Quote from: Dori on March 26, 2016, 11:56:28 AM
Trump wants to squelch free speech and so do the Justice Warriors. He thinks like a liberal.
He thinks like a
liberal dictator.
-or is that...
He thinks like a liberal dictator.
maybe ...
He thinks like a Nationalist dictator.
Interesting thing, Donald Trump is still repeating the same lines he was in December, with the same vibrato.
I've noticed a minor change, his policies are just a negotiating point & blaming someone else as the bad guy (for stuff he can be linked to).
Well, shucks, if we don't like the policies he has today, he'll have new ones in an hour.
Negotiate freedom, Donald? That's the real bottom line, and you're not even fit to stand in Churchill's or Reagan's or Thatcher's shadow.
Quote from: quiller on March 29, 2016, 12:54:22 AM
Well, shucks, if we don't like the policies he has today, he'll have new ones in an hour.
Negotiate freedom, Donald? That's the real bottom line, and you're not even fit to stand in Churchill's or Reagan's or Thatcher's shadow.
Glad someone said it! The Constitution and Bill of Rights is non-negotiable.
...why we want a Constitutional Conservative instead of a Salesman.
Chris Mathews rolls over Donald Trump on Abortion issue.
First off, Donald was on defense for the interview, OK, should he have realized since switching political parties, the flaming Liberals would start going after him, sooner or later? He cannot blame this on TEA or Conservatives, Ted Cruz, John Kasich, Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders - assuming Mathews was going to soft-ball him, was a mistake. Trump is on the side of the Liberal's "enemy" - "Hello!!!" And Geeze, Donald, quit whining about poor treatment, we're useto it, grow up already.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak2tqBVNMT4
First observation: Donald's mistake was following Chris Mathews down this rabbit hole. Chris actually set him up, pretty EASILY, and then started sucker punching.
Second observation: Donald has been doing this dumbed down thingy so long, he's starting to sound... well, kinda stupid during interviews. An otherwise easy interview produced plenty of fodder for the Liberals - can't blame that on anyone but Donald.
Third Observation: Is this campaign starting to wear out Donald? Maybe it was an off-day, or he missed a nap...?
Fourth Observation: That negative racoon-eyes, spray tan looks pathetic. I know, he's attempting to hide his old-looking, pale, washed out, wrinkly look... Look at those eyes, he looks tired and weak.
Last observation: Trump lacks the intellectual horse-sense & quick wit to defend himself in a confrontational situation. His old standby, going personal instead of factual, shows, over and over. Christie accused Marco Rubio of repeating himself, word for word, over and over - so does Donald Trump, same words, same phrases. Chris Mathews said he couldn't dodge answering, but, strip away the simpleton answers, and Trump was easily lead down a rabbit hole with no way to back out.
A businessman probably mulls over strategy, costs, earnings, timing ... rather analytical, goes into a debate/discussion with the other party's position pretty well mapped out.
A salesman has a pitch lasting just so long - when it's all been said, repeat yourself, after that, repeat yourself, since there isn't much to add to close the deal, repeat yourself.... that's Donald, IMO. AND... whatever empathy you have, is based on your version of why the customer needs your product. 'You need a wall, because kids are pissing on your porch, and Tariffs/Taxes because Joey's corner grocery is beating you on lettuce grown in greenhouses.'
Us against them, us against them. - this is child's play, is it not?
Ted Cruz has the intelligence & quick wit we need as a POTUS. Donald's message wore me out pretty quickly.
I don't see Donald as having a political ideology right or left. He strikes me more of a one man band, dancing to his own voice. As far as running for a political office, he'll say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear to garner votes.
It's obvious he doesn't take the job of President seriously, as he hasn't even educated himself on what it entails, or understands the policies he's trying to discuss, which is why, IMO, he sounds stupid.
He's quick tempered, thin skinned, and attacks first, without even realizing how people are going to react to his behavior.
Why his supporters can't see through his BS and do back flips to defend him is the most upsetting part of this election to me. I'll never understand them, let alone try and figure Trump out.
Quote from: Dori on March 31, 2016, 12:35:28 PM
I don't see Donald as having a political ideology right or left. He strikes me more of a one man band, dancing to his own voice. As far as running for a political office, he'll say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear to garner votes.
It's obvious he doesn't take the job of President seriously, as he hasn't even educated himself on what it entails, or understands the policies he's trying to discuss, which is why, IMO, he sounds stupid.
He's quick tempered, thin skinned, and attacks first, without even realizing how people are going to react to his behavior.
Why his supporters can't see through his BS and do back flips to defend him is the most upsetting part of this election to me. I'll never understand them, let alone try and figure Trump out.
For some reason these LIV (Low-Information Voter) think Trump can turn things around in no time at all. What he is saying and what he can do are different things. Just look at his past failures business. Other people pay for his mistakes not him personally. As he make money off of them, laughing all the way to the bank.
Quote from: Dori on March 31, 2016, 12:35:28 PM
I don't see Donald as having a political ideology right or left. He strikes me more of a one man band, dancing to his own voice. As far as running for a political office, he'll say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear to garner votes.
It's obvious he doesn't take the job of President seriously, as he hasn't even educated himself on what it entails, or understands the policies he's trying to discuss, which is why, IMO, he sounds stupid.
He's quick tempered, thin skinned, and attacks first, without even realizing how people are going to react to his behavior.
Why his supporters can't see through his BS and do back flips to defend him is the most upsetting part of this election to me. I'll never understand them, let alone try and figure Trump out.
Blinded by frustration, emotion and the desire for change.
Quote from: Dori on March 31, 2016, 12:35:28 PM
I don't see Donald as having a political ideology right or left. He strikes me more of a one man band, dancing to his own voice. As far as running for a political office, he'll say whatever he thinks his audience wants to hear to garner votes.
It's obvious he doesn't take the job of President seriously, as he hasn't even educated himself on what it entails, or understands the policies he's trying to discuss, which is why, IMO, he sounds stupid.
He's quick tempered, thin skinned, and attacks first, without even realizing how people are going to react to his behavior.
Why his supporters can't see through his BS and do back flips to defend him is the most upsetting part of this election to me. I'll never understand them, let alone try and figure Trump out.
How can you hit it
all dead on, and the MSM (who's job is journalism) completely miss what's going on???
QuoteIt's obvious he doesn't take the job of President seriously, as he hasn't even educated himself on what it entails, or understands the policies he's trying to discuss, which is why, IMO, he sounds stupid.
That is the best analysis I've read/heard all week. So simple and to the point, and he's so full of himself, so much smarter - prepare? Heck, just look in a mirror and talk to yourself!
Quote from: kit saginaw on March 25, 2016, 03:33:32 PM
But... that kind of wordsmithing is what's needed for bills, tax-laws, government contracts, ballot-issues, etc.
Cruz's biggest applauses come after he says: I'm going to reduce your tax-form to the size of a postcard.
Being clear and concise isn't the same as dumbing-down.
Quote from: kit saginaw on March 25, 2016, 03:33:32 PM
But... that kind of wordsmithing is what's needed for bills, tax-laws, government contracts, ballot-issues, etc.
Cruz's biggest applauses come after he says: I'm going to reduce your tax-form to the size of a postcard.
That's pretty low Kit, leading one to believe that's a Cruz quote associated with LIV appreciation as in Cruz supporters respond only to soundbites, when in truth, the applause were for his statement that he would kill the IRS.
Fact is, it's LIV Trumpettes that react on emotion, especially when one takes into account, Trump has come down on both sides of every issue during this campaign.
Now how stupid does one need to be to support a candidate that tells the public exactly what they want to hear, and too damn stupid to hear the same CANDIDATE take the exact opposite stance a week later?
The only reason I point this out, is to expose just how low Trumpettes are willing to go to help their lib.
Today... Internal polling is showing Ted Cruz with a 8-10% lead over Trump in Wisconsin. >yawn<
Having lived in Madison a few years, and then Milwaukee metro for 18 years, what's surprising is where the support is coming from. Milwaukee and Madison are Union & Liberal strong holds, the rest of the state is generally conservative. About 45% Roman Catholic, 25% Lutheran, but, Tommy Thompson (fiscal conservative, social moderate/conservative) was Governor for a long time, Scott Walker was County Executive before elected as Governor.
Milwaukee area is SOLID for Ted Cruz, Madison area is Kasich, and northern & rural area is Trump. To me, this is backwards, Milwaukee should be Trump, the rest of the state should be Cruz... until I heard the "who" part. Wealthy and highly educated are solid behind Cruz, poor and not-so-educated are behind Trump. Huh... makes sense, so does this:
The crazy liberals from Tammy Baldwin's (Lesbian) congressional district, Madison, are behind Kasich. LOL
What if Kasich wasn't running, where would they go? 60-70% to Cruz, the rest to Trump - ?? Turns out, the Liberals HATE Trump.
For months we've been hearing Donald Trump 'projecting' stuff, "lying Ted", "Nobody likes him".
So, Liberals hate Trump, TEA & Conservatives hate Trump, even RINOs at the WTMJ proudly proclaim, radio #nevertrump. Trump's unfavorability rating among women is +70%. Wealthy and educated people don't want Trump... what group did I miss? Lonely white men? Hey Donald, they're listening and hoping to seem more of your wife in the oval office. Sorry, I couldn't resist.
A couple of months ago, I started wondering WHO took the Warton College tests that enabled Trump to graduate.
Serious.
Rich people buy intelligence like a commodity, they need it to run a successful business - no fault in that at all. When it comes to a hurtle too high, either lower the hurtle, or hire someone to clear it for you... or cheat and run around it. Maybe he's one of those guys who said to himself at graduation, "Good, got that shingle, done with that education crap." and meant every word of it.
The April 15th interview on SquawkBox with Ted Cruz, quite a delight to watch as Ted articulated his vision for a re-energized America with positive steps, lowering the tax rate and enticing companies to move back to the USA. "...growth around the world cures almost everything" - started it out. This is a must see, it's clear and full of positive vision. Ted actually showed up in the studio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDu2fWId8CA
What a stark contrast to Donald Trump's tax-n-tariff, punish-da-world plan. Where was this guy during the Reagan Revolution, chasing skirts? Or the John Kennedy tax-cut plan to restart the economy? Why does Trump default to the Democratic jack-up-taxes, pay-ther-fair-share, progressive tax plan? I surmise the whole class envy "line" (that's all it is), plays well with the uneducated, low-information-voter... easier to digest than the Cruz / Reagan "un-lease the American Small Businessman" economic model.
Democrats (and Donald Trump) continue to push this "Economic PIE" idea, with businesses & wall street taking slices, and leaving the average American with the tiny piece. The rich get richer, we get poorer. Their wealth is built on the backs of the poor. We need to punish regulate corporations and tax redistribute wealth - the bigger government idea.
Here's a Squawkbox interview with Donald Trump. Donald was on-the-phone, at least we THINK it was Donald, people are good at impersonating media personalities, and who knows how many advisers were in the room with Donald during the interview. Did you actually believe Donald is knowledgeable enough to go 3-1 with CNBC...? Seriously....? A "successful businessman" by himself, in the STUDIO explaining complicated business & fiscal .... nevermind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=424ujo3yOTg
Trump gets softballs, butters up the interviewers, and defaults to negativism. Then, the questioning intelligence / communication level sinks to a 3rd grade level, with the interviewers struggling to form the questions at a simpler and simpler level... trying to lower their questions to Trump's level. Pound and pound negative lines, state the obvious, never get to any vision of a positive future.
Becky Quick: "Mr. Trump you're a businessman, how does this ...."
"This is a terrible, terrible ... blah, blah..." - nothing positive, no policy.
'What should US companies, US surveillance do?...'
Trump answers with how BAD our intelligence is, people dying, cold blooded nature of killing, etc., pound negative, negative - "shot these people at will"... (no plan, no policy)
On the Clinton question: "She's weak... ineffective... she caused... I was always against... lead to all the problems we have now..." pound negative, negative. (no plan, no policy)
ISIS question: "we don't know what we're doing... dummies in the senate & congress... quagmire... wounded warriors... quagmire... are we better off than Libia?... absolute animals... Assad is not our biggest problem... probably backing ISIS..." (no plan, no policy)
"The message is resonating... leading big... tough talk... we're not gonna be stupid... " (no plan, no policy)
Communication GAP or Communication GULF..?
Quote from: Hoofer on April 17, 2016, 08:56:11 AM
A couple of months ago, I started wondering WHO took the Warton College tests that enabled Trump to graduate.
Serious.
Rich people buy intelligence like a commodity, they need it to run a successful business - no fault in that at all. When it comes to a hurtle too high, either lower the hurtle, or hire someone to clear it for you... or cheat and run around it. Maybe he's one of those guys who said to himself at graduation, "Good, got that shingle, done with that education crap." and meant every word of it.
The April 15th interview on SquawkBox with Ted Cruz, quite a delight to watch as Ted articulated his vision for a re-energized America with positive steps, lowering the tax rate and enticing companies to move back to the USA. "...growth around the world cures almost everything" - started it out. This is a must see, it's clear and full of positive vision. Ted actually showed up in the studio.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDu2fWId8CA
What a stark contrast to Donald Trump's tax-n-tariff, punish-da-world plan. Where was this guy during the Reagan Revolution, chasing skirts? Or the John Kennedy tax-cut plan to restart the economy? Why does Trump default to the Democratic jack-up-taxes, pay-ther-fair-share, progressive tax plan? I surmise the whole class envy "line" (that's all it is), plays well with the uneducated, low-information-voter... easier to digest than the Cruz / Reagan "un-lease the American Small Businessman" economic model.
Democrats (and Donald Trump) continue to push this "Economic PIE" idea, with businesses & wall street taking slices, and leaving the average American with the tiny piece. The rich get richer, we get poorer. Their wealth is built on the backs of the poor. We need to punish regulate corporations and tax redistribute wealth - the bigger government idea.
Here's a Squawkbox interview with Donald Trump. Donald was on-the-phone, at least we THINK it was Donald, people are good at impersonating media personalities, and who knows how many advisers were in the room with Donald during the interview. Did you actually believe Donald is knowledgeable enough to go 3-1 with CNBC...? Seriously....? A "successful businessman" by himself, in the STUDIO explaining complicated business & fiscal .... nevermind.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=424ujo3yOTg
Trump gets softballs, butters up the interviewers, and defaults to negativism. Then, the questioning intelligence / communication level sinks to a 3rd grade level, with the interviewers struggling to form the questions at a simpler and simpler level... trying to lower their questions to Trump's level. Pound and pound negative lines, state the obvious, never get to any vision of a positive future.
Becky Quick: "Mr. Trump you're a businessman, how does this ...."
"This is a terrible, terrible ... blah, blah..." - nothing positive, no policy.
'What should US companies, US surveillance do?...'
Trump answers with how BAD our intelligence is, people dying, cold blooded nature of killing, etc., pound negative, negative - "shot these people at will"... (no plan, no policy)
On the Clinton question: "She's weak... ineffective... she caused... I was always against... lead to all the problems we have now..." pound negative, negative. (no plan, no policy)
ISIS question: "we don't know what we're doing... dummies in the senate & congress... quagmire... wounded warriors... quagmire... are we better off than Libia?... absolute animals... Assad is not our biggest problem... probably backing ISIS..." (no plan, no policy)
"The message is resonating... leading big... tough talk... we're not gonna be stupid... " (no plan, no policy)
Communication GAP or Communication GULF..?
And the Trumpaloons are totally blind to his shallowness.
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 17, 2016, 09:54:25 AM
And the Trumpaloons are totally blind to his shallowness.
I'll submit, and suspect, tough talking Donald Trump is afraid of an adversarial the media interview. He stays in the Trump Tower (MEH) and probably surrounds himself with people slipping him notes - 'remember we're Pro-life, and pro-gun'. They guy keeps defaulting to Democrat positions and points, and avoids solid Republican positions... maybe he just doesn't know how to argue positively for those positions...? Oddly enough, the interviewers sound like they are afraid of Trump - are they getting private emails, "the goon squad would like to 'review' your questions for Trump, at your residence .... tonight" or "my friends just called your child at xxxx school, he/she's OK for now..."?
Ted Cruz is smart enough the interviewer almost sound like they're agreeing with him, or coming around to his point of view. One-2-3 of them, and Cruz engages them intelligently, understanding the issues, points out the positives of his position, in a logical way, and they start smiling and nodding their heads.
Trump says he can sound really, really "Presidential"... I'm waiting for that one. The angry liberals who fill his ranks will escape to Bernie, a similarly "angry at companies", politician. To hang on to those angry liberals, maybe a Bernie/Trump ticket is the answer.
He said in this interview we would need to give up some privileges we're used to.
Quote from: taxed on April 17, 2016, 01:42:54 PM
He said in this interview we would need to give up some privileges we're used to.
Trading in 'older models' for instance? Oh, CARS, I meant CARS!
Quote from: taxed on April 17, 2016, 01:42:54 PM
He said in this interview we would need to give up some privileges we're used to.
All the liberals tell us that.
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