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Title: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Sauce on April 21, 2016, 05:24:14 PM
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/21/prince-hugely-inventive-influential-musician-dead/ (http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/21/prince-hugely-inventive-influential-musician-dead/)


Associated press story......MAYBE this will wake some TrumpaLoons up.

"He's playing a role"

"Evolving"

"Stage one is finished, entering stage 2"
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: tac on April 21, 2016, 05:58:59 PM
Wake up?
Never happen.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 21, 2016, 06:03:30 PM
I dunno but this whole "evolving" thing sounds like something leftist jerks would say....like "I grew into a new head". Or maybing "I'm PROGRESSING"...shudder.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: mrconservative on April 21, 2016, 06:46:04 PM
This is so obvious what Trump did. He faked conservative as much as possible during the early voting of the southern states which are more conservative. He did it well enough and conned enough people to win every southern state. Now that it's time for the stretch of liberal northern states, suddenly Trump is "evolving" (letting his true colors show) into have more moderate stances which are of greater appeal to the more moderate and liberal people of the north east, giving Trump an increased chance of having more sizable wins to pick up as many delegates as possible.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Fishman on April 21, 2016, 06:53:46 PM
Quote from: mrconservative on April 21, 2016, 06:46:04 PM
This is so obvious what Trump did. He faked conservative as much as possible during the early voting of the southern states which are more conservative. He did it well enough and conned enough people to win every southern state. Now that it's time for the stretch of liberal northern states, suddenly Trump is "evolving" (letting his true colors show) into have more moderate stances which are of greater appeal to the more moderate and liberal people of the north east, giving Trump an increased chance of having more sizable wins to pick up as many delegates as possible.

Couldn't have said it better. He is like a chameleon who changes colors to it's surroundings...
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: mrconservative on April 21, 2016, 06:56:16 PM
How much you wanna bet you won't here of this except for maybe in quick passing on the Trump SuperPAC channel that is Fox News.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Fishman on April 21, 2016, 07:01:10 PM
Quote from: mrconservative on April 21, 2016, 06:56:16 PM
How much you wanna bet you won't here of this except for maybe in quick passing on the Trump SuperPAC channel that is Fox News.

Might have a better chance to hear it on msnbc...Trump's new favorite network! Where libs go to get stroked...
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:16:44 PM
Quote from: Sauce on April 21, 2016, 05:24:14 PM
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/21/prince-hugely-inventive-influential-musician-dead/ (http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/21/prince-hugely-inventive-influential-musician-dead/)


Associated press story......MAYBE this will wake some TrumpaLoons up.

"He's playing a role"

"Evolving"
U
"Stage one is finished, entering stage 2"

I've been a poster on another "conservative" site for 16 years. I finally left that site today when I realized that I might as well be posting on DU, with the responses and attacks I was getting from "conservative" posters. I hate to sound dramatic, but it's like the devil has a hold on these people and has deceived them to a degree that you just can't get through to them with any logic or reason at all when it comes to Trump.  They can justify any thing he says and act like you are crazy for not understanding what he really meant. I'm happy here with people who haven't sold out their principles for a YUUGE Wall!
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Sauce on April 21, 2016, 07:21:45 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:16:44 PM
I've been a poster on another "conservative" site for 16 years. I finally left that site today when I realized that I might as well be posting on DU, with the responses and attacks I was getting from "conservative" posters. I hate to sound dramatic, but it's like the devil has a hold on these people and has deceived them to a degree that you just can't get through to them with any logic or reason at all when it comes to Trump.  They can justify any thing he says and act like you are crazy for not understanding what he really meant. I'm happy here with people who haven't sold out their principles for a YUUGE Wall!

Welcome Lil lamb!  I too along with quite a few others are refugees from a forum that has a name very similar to this one which also "turned" over the last 8 months or so.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Fishman on April 21, 2016, 07:27:15 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:16:44 PM
I've been a poster on another "conservative" site for 16 years. I finally left that site today when I realized that I might as well be posting on DU, with the responses and attacks I was getting from "conservative" posters. I hate to sound dramatic, but it's like the devil has a hold on these people and has deceived them to a degree that you just can't get through to them with any logic or reason at all when it comes to Trump.  They can justify any thing he says and act like you are crazy for not understanding what he really meant. I'm happy here with people who haven't sold out their principles for a YUUGE Wall!

Yep...I prolly know you by another name. Feel the same way...definitely fighting a losing battle with a lot of people I used to respect a lot. Sad state of affairs now...conservatism has been tossed aside for Trumpism.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: walkstall on April 21, 2016, 07:28:57 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:16:44 PM
I've been a poster on another "conservative" site for 16 years. I finally left that site today when I realized that I might as well be posting on DU, with the responses and attacks I was getting from "conservative" posters. I hate to sound dramatic, but it's like the devil has a hold on these people and has deceived them to a degree that you just can't get through to them with any logic or reason at all when it comes to Trump.  They can justify any thing he says and act like you are crazy for not understanding what he really meant. I'm happy here with people who haven't sold out their principles for a YUUGE Wall!


Fishman is having the same problems, on his other board he is posting on. 

I think he is one of  3 against a full "conservative" board for Trump.  It does not help that there Admin is pushing Trump all the way, almost every day.   
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Fishman on April 21, 2016, 07:34:29 PM
Quote from: Sauce on April 21, 2016, 07:21:45 PM
Welcome Lil lamb!  I too along with quite a few others are refugees from a forum that has a name very similar to this one which also "turned" over the last 8 months or so.

I think they are all going to be sick to their stomach at some point in the future. They are going to have to find out for themselves though...
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:42:50 PM
I want to be clear that I don't think Trump is the devil. I hate when people demonize an opponent. I don't see any reason to do that.  I'm just really bummed out because I felt like our time had finally arrived with Cruz and I'm just dumbfounded that these posters I have admired for so many years seem to have lost their everlovin minds. I keep telling myself I'm in the majority, I'm in the majority. Lol.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Sauce on April 21, 2016, 07:48:14 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:42:50 PM
I want to be clear that I don't think Trump is the devil. I hate when people demonize an opponent. I don't see any reason to do that.  I'm just really bummed out because I felt like our time had finally arrived with Cruz and I'm just dumbfounded that these posters I have admired for so many years seem to have lost their everlovin minds. I keep telling myself I'm in the majority, I'm in the majority. Lol.

I do,  but only because possession is the only possible explanation for his popularity :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:51:44 PM
Fishman, it's possible we are from the same board. It's been really hard for me to leave, but the responses I got today, ugh.  I can't spend my time having people posting ugly replies to everything I post. You don't have to agree with me just be civil and don't patronize me, you know? I swear I now have my own personal trolls following me around just waiting to post something ugly to me in every thread. I was crying when I knew I was signing out for the last time today. I feel like this was an ugly divorce and they got to keep the house!
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2016, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:42:50 PM
I want to be clear that I don't think Trump is the devil. I hate when people demonize an opponent. I don't see any reason to do that.  I'm just really bummed out because I felt like our time had finally arrived with Cruz and I'm just dumbfounded that these posters I have admired for so many years seem to have lost their everlovin minds. I keep telling myself I'm in the majority, I'm in the majority. Lol.
You are, but it's a generational issue. The older one gets, the further away from speaking out on the web.
Meaning many on the right don't even bother with computers, but 30 and under it's nearly 100% and they are vocal and tend to be emotional.

Problem is, they never knew Reagan or the commie threat, they didn't experience LBJ they only see a cultural decay since Clinton, and Trump speaks out for them, but luckily they are a small percentage of the right, vocal no doubt, but small.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 08:07:25 PM
Solar, Trump is so transparent, how can anyone be so blind not to see.  My own brother is an evangelical. He lives at church. I told him that Trump told him everything he needed to know about him when he said that he doesn't ask God for forgiveness. My brother says well that's not literally what he meant and I'm all WTH that's what he said! It's like every Trump fanatic has their own secret decoder ring that tells them what Trump really meant when Trump slips and shows his liberal panties.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: walkstall on April 21, 2016, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 08:07:25 PM
Solar, Trump is so transparent, how can anyone be so blind not to see.  My own brother is an evangelical. He lives at church. I told him that Trump told him everything he needed to know about him when he said that he doesn't ask God for forgiveness. My brother says well that's not literally what he meant and I'm all WTH that's what he said! It's like every Trump fanatic has their own secret decoder ring that tells them what Trump really meant when Trump slips and shows his liberal panties.

I think some are looking for pie in the sky and it's not there in Trump. 
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Fishman on April 21, 2016, 08:10:21 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 08:07:25 PM
Solar, Trump is so transparent, how can anyone be so blind not to see.  My own brother is an evangelical. He lives at church. I told him that Trump told him everything he needed to know about him when he said that he doesn't ask God for forgiveness. My brother says well that's not literally what he meant and I'm all WTH that's what he said! It's like every Trump fanatic has their own secret decoder ring that tells them what Trump really meant when Trump slips and shows his liberal panties.

OK, a decoder ring? That was more than a little funny... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 08:27:31 PM
Quote from: walkstall on April 21, 2016, 08:09:55 PM
I think some are looking for pie in the sky and it's not there in Trump.

One of my favorite quotes from Ronald Reagan -
To sit back hoping that someday, some way, someone will make things right is to go on feeding the crocodile, hoping he will eat you last - but eat you he will.

They think Trump is that person and all they have to do is sit back and he is going to fix everything and they don't have to do anything but cash in on all his wonderful promises. That's why they are so quick to jump on the bandwagon in blaming Cruz for stealing delegates, cuz they weren't supposed to have to do anything but wear their silly Trump hat and cheer.

Freeman, if you are from my board then you probably know who I am now   :ttoung:
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 21, 2016, 08:31:26 PM
He has viewed the election like he views potential investments. Whatever works.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2016, 09:10:08 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 08:07:25 PM
Solar, Trump is so transparent, how can anyone be so blind not to see.  My own brother is an evangelical. He lives at church. I told him that Trump told him everything he needed to know about him when he said that he doesn't ask God for forgiveness. My brother says well that's not literally what he meant and I'm all WTH that's what he said! It's like every Trump fanatic has their own secret decoder ring that tells them what Trump really meant when Trump slips and shows his liberal panties.
How old is your brother?
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 21, 2016, 09:10:08 PM
How old is your brother?

53
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 21, 2016, 11:24:40 PM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
53

Not 42?
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Bronx on April 22, 2016, 04:52:48 AM
Sounds like something we have been saying all along. Trump/Hillary plan coming together.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: mrconservative on April 22, 2016, 06:39:00 AM
Quote from: Bronx on April 22, 2016, 04:52:48 AM
Sounds like something we have been saying all along. Trump/Hillary plan coming together.

Yup. Ive only been saying that here for 2+ months now.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Solar on April 22, 2016, 06:48:22 AM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 09:32:32 PM
53
Like so many in that range, he's angry. He 's seen what America used to look like, yet still young enough to suffer a leftist agenda unabated for the next 3 decades.
No, his reaction is not Conservative, if it were he'd support the Constitutional Conservative candidate running, instead he's being emotional and seeking revenge on the GOP'e and to Hell with the side effects.

Yes, I've seen it many times, but if you ask the right questions, you can turn them around, I have.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: mrconservative on April 22, 2016, 07:11:11 AM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 08:07:25 PM
Solar, Trump is so transparent, how can anyone be so blind not to see.  My own brother is an evangelical. He lives at church. I told him that Trump told him everything he needed to know about him when he said that he doesn't ask God for forgiveness. My brother says well that's not literally what he meant and I'm all WTH that's what he said! It's like every Trump fanatic has their own secret decoder ring that tells them what Trump really meant when Trump slips and shows his liberal panties.

There are times when people just wont listen to their family or friends. No matter how much family or friends try to give a warning, the person just becomes "deaf". Unfortunately this may be the situation with your brother and you regarding your warning about Trump.

Id recommend you suggest to your brother that he listen to Mark Levin. If your brother objects, just tell him to give Levin a listen just once because what could it hurt to just try to give a listen to one show. As long as your brother has turned into a full fledged hypnotized Trumpbot, Levin should be able to save him before its to late.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Dori on April 22, 2016, 07:36:44 AM
Quote from: LilLamb on April 21, 2016, 07:42:50 PM
I want to be clear that I don't think Trump is the devil. I hate when people demonize an opponent. I don't see any reason to do that.  I'm just really bummed out because I felt like our time had finally arrived with Cruz and I'm just dumbfounded that these posters I have admired for so many years seem to have lost their everlovin minds. I keep telling myself I'm in the majority, I'm in the majority. Lol.

I'm in the same boat.  I'm also dumbfounded about the Trump supporters.  I've never liked the guy, long before he even decided to run.

This is my signature here, and I feel the same way about Trump voters;

The danger to America is not Barack Obama but the citizens capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency.



Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: AmericanMom on April 22, 2016, 07:49:38 AM
I also am amazed at the level of support trump gets, I too am from another forum , a place where I really thought the majority of Conservatives were pretty much like minded. To see the hate for Cruz and the absolute worship of Trump, even from the admin of that site, is sad.
I went against my own rule and had it on Fox yesterday, listened to O'reilly tell the world that Trump WILL be the nominee, that his YUGE win in NY sealed the deal.. I laughed until I finally turned off the TV.  there was someone else trying to tone down O'reilly's enthusiasm, tried to remind him that it is far from over and that it hinged on how Indiana went, he finally agree but followed it up with how he doesn't see how the RNC can not elected trump as he is the "leader"
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: mrconservative on April 22, 2016, 07:50:08 AM
Quote from: Dori on April 22, 2016, 07:36:44 AM
I'm in the same boat.  I'm also dumbfounded about the Trump supporters.

Count me as dumbfounded too. Prior to finding this site, I was somewhere else - a pretty small site thats not the same one that most of you likely are speaking of. Along with myself, there was 2 other full fledged TEA conservatives. One of them, he went deep into the tank for Trump right away. The other one, he teetered on the fence between Trump and Cruz until after Iowa crap, and then he went deep into the Trump tank. Both of them, full fledged TEA guys - guys that Ive associated with for a handleful of years.

I was astonished. I then became the bunching back of theirs because I stuck with Cruz and refused to "come over to winner".

Thats when I left there and found this site. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: mrconservative on April 22, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
In my opinion, Trump even screwed this up.

There was no reason to admit now that he is showing his true colors evolving. He is trying to appeal to more moderates but did he not realize he already had the entire north east in the bag??? All these states voting next Tuesday, except PA, he had in the bag. He didnt need to do anything to make himself more appealing to the people of those states. Now, after next Tueday, things move towards the west where the republican people are more and more conservative. The western states are close primaries. Theres no one that can cross over that would be drawn to Trump moderate/leftist pivots. Sure, I guess it could help Trump a little in California, but thats it. Washington state, republican wise, its very conservative, particularly the eastern part of the state. Same goes for Oregon.

Trump's trying to appeal even more to states that he already has in the bag all while beginning to alienate states that were already leaning more towards Cruz.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Dubinsky on April 22, 2016, 10:09:41 AM
Quote from: Bronx on April 22, 2016, 04:52:48 AM
Sounds like something we have been saying all along. Trump/Hillary plan coming together.

You just hit the nail on the head...again.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: redsun on April 22, 2016, 10:40:40 AM
Quote from: AmericanMom on April 22, 2016, 07:49:38 AM
I also am amazed at the level of support trump gets, I too am from another forum , a place where I really thought the majority of Conservatives were pretty much like minded. To see the hate for Cruz and the absolute worship of Trump, even from the admin of that site, is sad.
I went against my own rule and had it on Fox yesterday, listened to O'reilly tell the world that Trump WILL be the nominee, that his YUGE win in NY sealed the deal.. I laughed until I finally turned off the TV.  there was someone else trying to tone down O'reilly's enthusiasm, tried to remind him that it is far from over and that it hinged on how Indiana went, he finally agree but followed it up with how he doesn't see how the RNC can not elected trump as he is the "leader"

I too have been on that site. They are a sad bunch over there. The worship they have for Trump over there reminds one of the blind adoration for the little corporal many had in Germany 80 years ago.
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Possum on April 22, 2016, 10:53:01 AM
  I still say he is just positioning himself to become hillery's running mate after the gop kicks his butt out. :lol: :lol: Or has nobody told him the liberals already have their candidates?
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Fishman on April 22, 2016, 11:19:22 AM
Quote from: Sauce on April 21, 2016, 05:24:14 PM
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/21/prince-hugely-inventive-influential-musician-dead/ (http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/21/prince-hugely-inventive-influential-musician-dead/)


Associated press story......MAYBE this will wake some TrumpaLoons up.

"He's playing a role"

"Evolving"

I predict this will once again have a net zero effect on "Teflon Donny"...although any other candidate would be sunk. It's almost like how nothing ever stuck to Obama in '08... :cursing:

"Stage one is finished, entering stage 2"
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: je_freedom on April 23, 2016, 10:01:16 AM
Quote from: Sauce on April 21, 2016, 05:24:14 PM
Associated press story......MAYBE this will wake some TrumpaLoons up.

"He's playing a role"

"Evolving"

"Stage one is finished, entering stage 2"

Is that like four years ago, when Romney's guy said that
now that the primaries are past, we're going to shake the Etch-a-Sketch
and create a new image?
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Fishman on April 23, 2016, 10:13:54 AM
Quote from: Sauce on April 21, 2016, 05:24:14 PM
http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/21/prince-hugely-inventive-influential-musician-dead/ (http://lasvegassun.com/news/2016/apr/21/prince-hugely-inventive-influential-musician-dead/)


Associated press story......MAYBE this will wake some TrumpaLoons up.

"He's playing a role"

"Evolving"

"Stage one is finished, entering stage 2"

Sorry sauce...I messed up your quote on this. I'll try again...

I predict this will once again have a net zero effect on "Teflon Donny"...although any other candidate would be sunk. It's almost like how nothing ever stuck to Obama in '08... :cursing:
Title: Re: Trump Campaign admits Donald has been playing a role/evolving
Post by: Solar on April 23, 2016, 10:24:03 AM
Quote from: je_freedom on April 23, 2016, 10:01:16 AM
Is that like four years ago, when Romney's guy said that
now that the primaries are past, we're going to shake the Etch-a-Sketch
and create a new image?
Oh yeah, you must be referring to President Romney?
Yeah, it worked ohhh sooo well for him too. :lol:

Stick a fork in the NY Lib, he's done! The only reason political campaigns morph their candidate is because what he's doing is failing miserably.