http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/meet-the-prominent-white-nationalists-fired-up-to-support-do#.wyNaMv32a
QuoteAmerica's white nationalists have spoken, and they've spoken loud and clear: Donald Trump is their presidential candidate of choice.
I like Donald Trump. He has his style and he definitely knows how to win the life. But I got some mixed feelings when I saw the article.
Of course the guy has very clear views on the migration policy, but I wonder could he really gather the support of the neo-Nazis? Isn't it too much?
It seems to be very believable provocation from those liberals who try to destroy both America and Trump.
Do you agree?
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So what? These groups back Woodrow Wilson, Harry S. Truman and candidate Ron Paul as well.
No sane person could call either Truman or Paul a racist. Wilson was another story.
The very top racists? What about the lower-level racists?
Supremacists (white or otherwise) are creatures of rhetoric and propaganda, and it doesnt take much imagination on their part to leap on very vague and loose ideological compatabilities like an ADHD child leaping at gold foil wrapped candies.
Trump shouldnt be held accountable for the mentally challenged who glom onto his platform in a mistaken sense of comraderie, but of course he will be.
Quote from: ReadyToShoot on August 27, 2015, 06:26:43 AM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/meet-the-prominent-white-nationalists-fired-up-to-support-do#.wyNaMv32a
I like Donald Trump. He has his style and he definitely knows how to win the life. But I got some mixed feelings when I saw the article.
Of course the guy has very clear views on the migration policy, but I wonder could he really gather the support of the neo-Nazis? Isn't it too much?
It seems to be very believable provocation from those liberals who try to destroy both America and Trump.
Do you agree?
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All designed to force you to publically renounce him. If you support Trump on ANY way, "YOURE A RACIST!". And weall know, " racists" are fair game deserving of murder.
The MSM and both parties will do aanything to bring him down.
Quote from: ReadyToShoot on August 27, 2015, 06:26:43 AM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/meet-the-prominent-white-nationalists-fired-up-to-support-do#.wyNaMv32a
I like Donald Trump. He has his style and he definitely knows how to win the life. But I got some mixed feelings when I saw the article.
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Democratic Underground, Salon, and Huff Post beat you to this one, three weeks ago.
What game are we playing? The KKK supported the Democrats for a hundred years and the Communists and Muslim terrorists backed Obama.
Quote from: Dori on August 27, 2015, 10:04:35 AM
What game are we playing? The KKK supported the Democrats for a hundred years and the Communists and Muslim terrorists backed Obama.
The game is being played on YOU.
The America haters will tell you nationalism (making Americagreat again) means yyou're a racist or a Nazi. Hysteria is taking over. You should wonder why you're siding with the MSM and the establishment of both parties.
Quote from: carlb on August 27, 2015, 10:37:18 AM
The game is being played on YOU.
The America haters will tell you nationalism (making Americagreat again) means yyou're a racist or a Nazi. Hysteria is taking over. You should wonder why you're siding with the MSM and the establishment of both parties.
So now I'm an America hater for asking questions of a lib RINO?
Quote from: ReadyToShoot on August 27, 2015, 06:26:43 AM
http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/meet-the-prominent-white-nationalists-fired-up-to-support-do#.wyNaMv32a
I like Donald Trump. He has his style and he definitely knows how to win the life. But I got some mixed feelings when I saw the article.
Of course the guy has very clear views on the migration policy, but I wonder could he really gather the support of the neo-Nazis? Isn't it too much?
It seems to be very believable provocation from those liberals who try to destroy both America and Trump.
Do you agree?
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1wdojq181if3tdg01yomaof86.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F07%2Fcropped-trump-1000x600.png&hash=992562fd5ae5e9b657ed02765e2d0f94afcff027)
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A candidate cannot control who backs them. it is not as if Trump is actively courting these groups for support and he isn't appearing at rallies they sponsor.
It's a non issue.
Quote from: carlb on August 27, 2015, 10:37:18 AM
The game is being played on YOU.
The America haters will tell you nationalism (making Americagreat again) means yyou're a racist or a Nazi. Hysteria is taking over. You should wonder why you're siding with the MSM and the establishment of both parties.
LOL....you don't know me very well. According to my family, I'm too damned independent for my own good, and that includes what I think about politicians.
I'm not a Trump fan, but this article is nothing more than a leftist hit piece, designed to make Trump look bad. Consider the source.
Quote from: Dori on August 27, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
LOL....you don't know me very well. According to my family, I'm too damned independent for my own good, and that includes what I think about politicians.
I'm not a Trump fan, but this article is nothing more than a leftist hit piece, designed to make Trump look bad. Consider the source.
Yep, even the pic they used was chose for it's resemblance to the NAZI salute.
The top racists have been in the White House for 7 years.
This thread irritates me
Check the poles baby
Hey liberal, I just saw the same claim on CNN.
Quote from: Dori on August 27, 2015, 12:03:20 PM
LOL....you don't know me very well. According to my family, I'm too damned independent for my own good, and that includes what I think about politicians.
I'm not a Trump fan, but this article is nothing more than a leftist hit piece, designed to make Trump look bad. Consider the source.
Glad to hear you recognize that. You do nt have t2o like him, but don't let the hysterical mob influence you.
Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2015, 11:47:29 AM
So now I'm an America hater for asking questions of a lib RINO?
But he's the one Solar. God's chosen who will part seas and lead us out of the valley of death into a promised land. :wink:
Im starting to see a lot of similarity between Trumpsters and Obama zombies. :popcorn:
Quote from: Ulsterking on August 27, 2015, 04:47:59 PM
But he's the one Solar. God's chosen who will part seas and lead us out of the valley of death into a promised land. :wink:
Im starting to see a lot of similarity between Trumpsters and Obama zombies. :popcorn:
:lol:
Yep, they're inseparable. I'm not talking about people that like what he's doing to the RINO's, but would never vote for the guy, I mean the idiots willing to vote for a Lib RINO.
These people are caught up in the "Feeling" of what he's saying, they actually believe a guy that has a track record on flipping on everything he believes.
These are Obozo's groupies, the kind of person that never watches football, and when the Superbowl comes, roots for the winning team, just so they can be a sheep and claim their team won.
The LIV of American society. :glare:
Quote from: carlb on August 27, 2015, 04:28:56 PM
You do nt have t2o like him, but don't let the hysterical mob influence you.
They never have, and never will. I'm a cynic. That last thing I'll ever do is believe what someone says on face value, without doing my own due diligence.
Sifting though the propaganda to find the underlying agenda is sometimes more important than what's being reported, especially if it's political.
Hilarious! The picture that is. Looks like he is doing the Nazi salute. I know its tiring to hear the Hitler comparisons. They can be made in many situations. But when Trump was saying that Kelly should be fired little warning bells went off. What makes him think he could dictate her employment?
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 27, 2015, 06:12:19 PM
Hilarious! The picture that is. Looks like he is doing the Nazi salute. I know its tiring to hear the Hitler comparisons. They can be made in many situations. But when Trump was saying that Kelly should be fired little warning bells went off. What makes him think he could dictate her employment?
Kelly call the first shot! He has a right to fire back, and he don't have to be PC about it.
Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2015, 11:47:29 AM
So now I'm an America hater for asking questions of a lib RINO?
Sorry I missed this. I don't follow every single post or response.
Obviously I wasn't talking about you. I doubt you think pride in restoring our nation (nationalism) is a bad thing. I wasn't even speaking of the rino Republicans. I was talking about the libs who accuse you of racism or call you a Nazi if you want your country's national pride and greatness restored.
But the belief that Trump is some Hitler in the making, is just plain silly. I was listening to Mark Levin today, and I did think of some of the wild accusations being made against Trump. If you hate the way he speaks, I wonder what you'd think of a very blunt President Mark Levin. Personally, I'd love someone like that in the White House.
Quote from: carlb on August 27, 2015, 06:26:13 PM
Sorry I missed this. I don't follow every single post or response.
Obviously I wasn't talking about you. I doubt you think pride in restoring our nation (nationalism) is a bad thing. I wasn't even speaking of the rino Republicans. I was talking about the libs who accuse you of racism or call you a Nazi if you want your country's national pride and greatness restored.
But the belief that Trump is some Hitler in the making, is just plain silly. I was listening to Mark Levin today, and I did think of some of the wild accusations being made against Trump. If you hate the way he speaks, I wonder what you'd think of a very blunt President Mark Levin. Personally, I'd love someone like that in the White House.
I had made the point earlier that Trump was playing on the emotions and anger towards all the damage being done to the nation, he's playing the "Nationalist Card" and personally, I find it disgusting, because the ignorant can't see they're being played for their emotions, and tossing critical thinking aside.
I don't mean those rooting him on for saying what we've been saying for years, but the idiots willing to vote for someone simply because he parrots their emotions.
There is this guy who lives down the road from me. He is large and has hair on his toes. I know this because he walks his dog barefoot. Anyway he hates panda bears and Dutch people. He said he plans on voting for Trump. So Trump obviously hates fat Dutch people with hairy toes....
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 27, 2015, 08:00:51 PM
There is this guy who lives down the road from me. He is large and has hair on his toes. I know this because he walks his dog barefoot. Anyway he hates panda bears and Dutch people. He said he plans on voting for Trump. So Trump obviously hates fat Dutch people with hairy toes....
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 27, 2015, 08:00:51 PM
There is this guy who lives down the road from me. He is large and has hair on his toes. I know this because he walks his dog barefoot. Anyway he hates panda bears and Dutch people. He said he plans on voting for Trump. So Trump obviously hates fat Dutch people with hairy toes....
LOL....very good analogy.
Hillary compared pro life candidates to terrorists because they want to cut funds to planned parenthood. Makes about as much sense.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 27, 2015, 11:58:38 AM
A candidate cannot control who backs them. it is not as if Trump is actively courting these groups for support and he isn't appearing at rallies they sponsor.
It's a non issue.
Yes, Trump can't control who announces they support him. It's just another below-the-belt leftist maneuver.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 27, 2015, 08:00:51 PM
There is this guy who lives down the road from me. He is large and has hair on his toes. I know this because he walks his dog barefoot. Anyway he hates panda bears and Dutch people. He said he plans on voting for Trump. So Trump obviously hates fat Dutch people with hairy toes....
Your parables are very effective in making your point. Wish I had that talent.
Quote from: Dori on August 28, 2015, 07:09:41 AM
LOL....very good analogy.
Hillary compared pro life candidates to terrorists because they want to cut funds to planned parenthood. Makes about as much sense.
Terrorists? Like the ones that killed Ambassador Stevens, Mrs. Clinton?
So now we see the leftist media attacking Trump
the same way they attacked Pat Buchanan in 1996
(after he won the New Hampshire primary).
Are there still people who think Trump is a leftist shill?
Quote from: je_freedom on August 28, 2015, 08:24:04 PM
So now we see the leftist media attacking Trump
the same way they attacked Pat Buchanan in 1996
(after he won the New Hampshire primary).
Are there still people who think Trump is a leftist shill?
The real question is, are there still people foolish enough to believe Trump is a Conservative?
I'm not a Trump fan, but that was the most inept and fatuous hit piece I've seen in a while. For guilt by association to work, there has to be ... an actual association. Trump can't control who likes or dislikes him or his views. Who knows? maybe Trump and racists like lemon meringue pie, too!
And that pic taken and chosen to look like a Nazi salute was pretty cheesy, too. Almost as cheesy as the pics of G. W. Bush with a Hitler mustache.
This is the depth to which the MSM and Prog New Media are willing and eager to delve.
Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2015, 04:59:47 PM
:lol:
Yep, they're inseparable. I'm not talking about people that like what he's doing to the RINO's, but would never vote for the guy, I mean the idiots willing to vote for a Lib RINO.
These people are caught up in the "Feeling" of what he's saying, they actually believe a guy that has a track record on flipping on everything he believes.
These are Obozo's groupies, the kind of person that never watches football, and when the Superbowl comes, roots for the winning team, just so they can be a sheep and claim their team won.
The LIV of American society. :glare:
The above sounds exactly like what the Dems do, call people who don't agree with them names, insinuate they are stupid sheep to even consider voting for Trump. Go ahead and say it--Trump will put people in boxcars and ship them south. Join up with Hillary with the insults.
Quote from: Charliemyboy on August 29, 2015, 07:33:46 AM
The above sounds exactly like what the Dems do, call people who don't agree with them names, insinuate they are stupid sheep to even consider voting for Trump. Go ahead and say it--Trump will put people in boxcars and ship them south. Join up with Hillary with the insults.
People who will vote for a liberal out of emotion are sheep. Why do you disagree with that?
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2015, 08:26:53 PM
The real question is, are there still people foolish enough to believe Trump is a Conservative?
Donald Trump is not much of a
social conservative. He built casinos. He runs beauty pageants. He cusses.
(But he
did raise his children with strict moral standards.)
What
is conservative about him is, he sees what the Establishment (Democrats and RINOs) have been doing to America in recent decades.
He sees how the Dems and RINOs have been nibbling away at economic freedom for the last hundred years.
He sees how the Dems and RINOs have been manipulating America financially, especially in the last ten years.
He sees how the Dems and RINOs (and their accomplices in the financial world)(especially Fannaie Mae and Freddie Mac) manufactured the financial crisis of 2008, and how they've been grabbing
more control through skyrocketing debt.
(For more on how the Dems and RINOs manufactured the 2008 crisis, see:
http://daytonos.com/?p=4899 "We Need SMARTER Regulation" )
He sees how the Dems and RINOs are really puppets of the hedge fund crowd,
who are
USING THE TOOLS OF CAPITALISM to FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGE AMERICA
from a FREE MARKET ECONOMY into a SOCIALIST OLIGARCHY!
Capitalism and wealth for the ruling clique, socialism and poverty for everyone else!
We should take note of Trump's recent proposal to hike taxes on hedge funds.
Hedge fund owners' political donations are nearly ALL to Democrats and RINOs!
Quote from: Charliemyboy on August 29, 2015, 07:33:46 AM
The above sounds exactly like what the Dems do, call people who don't agree with them names, insinuate they are stupid sheep to even consider voting for Trump. Go ahead and say it--Trump will put people in boxcars and ship them south. Join up with Hillary with the insults.
So, you're saying we should ignore Trump's liberal track record, and believe everything he says from here on out?
What part of "Sheeple" do you not get?
It's that same idiocy that gave us the Marxist, the same willingness to believe a hollow slogan of "Hope and Change" allowing the follower to make it fit their Utopian belief of the future.
Trump, a lib RINO at best, is playing the Nationalist/Anger card, that's it, when just two years ago, he was diametrically opposed to everything he now states needs to take place.
And you don't see the red flags?
I'll say it again for the hard of hearing. We love what Trump is doing, but there is no way in Hell Conservatives are going to back a liberal.
Trump makes a lot of good noises, and I love that he is giving the MSM fits and his middle fingers (metaphorically). But he's a "government entrepreneur", one who derives and depends on project funding and tax subsidies for his business enterprises. This is poisonous, and as Solyndra demonstrated, potentially disastrous.
And as to making good noises, Schwarzenegger made lots of good noises and even appeared for a time to try to make them good. As a whole I'd say he's been CA's worst governor ever, though Jerry Brown is giving him competition. I'm reflexively leery of people making good noises but who have backgrounds inconsistent with those noises (Ahnold was straight out of Hollyweird, with little or no substance to show his noises genuine).
Quote from: SVPete on August 29, 2015, 08:52:55 AM
Trump makes a lot of good noises, and I love that he is giving the MSM fits and his middle fingers (metaphorically). But he's a "government entrepreneur", one who derives and depends on project funding and tax subsidies for his business enterprises. This is poisonous, and as Solyndra demonstrated, potentially disastrous.
And as to making good noises, Schwarzenegger made lots of good noises and even appeared for a time to try to make them good. As a whole I'd say he's been CA's worst governor ever, though Jerry Brown is giving him competition. I'm reflexively leery of people making good noises but who have backgrounds inconsistent with those noises (Ahnold was straight out of Hollyweird, with little or no substance to show his noises genuine).
I think Maria Shriver had a lot to do with the Governators emasculation. Her family are pretty influential liberal socialists.
Meanwhile, yes, Trumps rhetoric feels good, and as long as you dont engage your cerebellum too much, you can ride a nice wave of antiestablishment euphoria. Nevermind that this guy has made a career of working the corrupt culture of government and business relations. Sure, he may have a different view than the hedge fund sharks on how to economically rule the nation, but theres no indication that his means dont lead to the same ends. The Donald isnt quite a
laissez faire capitalist himself.
While economics is important, I dont trust Trump to help persecuted Christians around the world, stand up for Israel, seriously contend with Planned Parenthood, or even not to walk back his immigration stance in lieu of the compromises that will arise as he makes new deals with Mexico. Then there is China. I dont see Trump handling the deteriating situation there in a way that wont make things worse for us in the end.
Most people dont realize what happens to new presidents around ten days after the inaugeration. There is a briefing where the newly elected president is brought up to speed on all the gory detail of the USs condition. They find out things that most DC insiders whether press or politician never know about. Why do you think Obama virtually fled his own office? Besides being an empty suited ideologue of course. Half of Barrys tenure has been a vacation because he had no mechanism for coping with the uniquely mentally and spiritually challenging position the US presidency is.
Of course I have more faith in DTs coping skills, but he is going to find himself in a place where his life experience counts for almost nothing. To be fair, every new president no matter their background must face this daunting aspect of their office, but I can only envision Trump treading water for most of his first term trying to gain a bearing, mainly because the biggest characteristic that pulls new presidents through the challenge, or not, is whether they either wanted the job to serve their country, or just wanted to rule the world for a few years. While I believe Donald is patriotic in his own way, I dont think any sense of duty he may possess "Trumps" his self-absorption.
That last comment brought up the hidden agendas that affect us all very profoundly,
and are kept secret.
Barry Soetoro, alias Barack Obama, has been enthusiastically on board for that agenda
his whole life!
Jeb! has been enthusiastically on board for that agenda
for at least three generations!
Donald Trump is pretty headstrong. It takes a really headstrong guy like him to resist that kind of pressure.
I think he would resist, and that's why the media is attacking him so rabidly.
If their current attempt to assassinate his character fails, they almost certainly would at least try to JFK him.
Ted Cruz is a man of great character. He would resist, and they would do the same to him.
I might be overly optimistic here, but I see reason to believe there's a secret alliance between
The Donald and Ted. We won't know for sure until it's time to choose the VP.
Quote from: je_freedom on August 29, 2015, 03:10:13 PM
That last comment brought up the hidden agendas that affect us all very profoundly,
and are kept secret.
Barry Soetoro, alias Barack Obama, has been enthusiastically on board for that agenda
his whole life!
Jeb! has been enthusiastically on board for that agenda
for at least three generations!
Donald Trump is pretty headstrong. It takes a really headstrong guy like him to resist that kind of pressure.
I think he would resist, and that's why the media is attacking him so rabidly.
If their current attempt to assassinate his character fails, they almost certainly would at least try to JFK him.
Ted Cruz is a man of great character. He would resist, and they would do the same to him.
I might be overly optimistic here, but I see reason to believe there's a secret alliance between
The Donald and Ted. We won't know for sure until it's time to choose the VP.
Careful about praising anything about Trump. They might "out" you as the guy who defied the herd and actually voted for him! :lol:
Just "the media"? I see it other places too.
" Do you now, or have you ever supported Donald Trump" But, he's a Hitler in the making! He's going to round up all the Mexicans and send them to the ovens!
Trump has no respect for Property rights.
http://townhall.com/columnists/youngvoicesadvocates/2015/08/28/donald-trump-has-no-respect-for-property-rights-n2045234/page/full
I think Trump knows how to play both sides of the isle. I just don't think that he is honest. He simply cannot deliver what he say's either. "He can't make them go" Certainly not on the first day like he said.
He could stop catering to them and drive them out on their own accord. Stop issuing tax id's to illegal. Create laws to stop lending institutions from giving loans. Stop the lie that a baby just because an illegal has put their foot on American soil is then American. They could deport immediately upon being caught. No need to wait for a judge. NO FREE RIDE for breaking the law.
And it is no surprise that Nazi's back Trump. The Democratic party is the party of KKK.
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 30, 2015, 11:01:19 AM
And it is no surprise that Nazi's back Trump. The Democratic party is the party of KKK.
Ouch.......
The Nazi's did have a good air force for awhile. (The ME-109)
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on August 30, 2015, 11:01:19 AM
And it is no surprise that Nazi's back Trump. The Democratic party is the party of KKK.
Are you sure? How can BO be a KKK? Simply he's too black for that.
Moreover officially Trump is a Republican. And I'm sure he's an independent one deep in his heart.
Perhaps if he became a president he would change the bipartisanship to some other regime
Quote from: ReadyToShoot on August 31, 2015, 09:23:49 AM
Are you sure? How can BO be a KKK? Simply he's too black for that.
Moreover officially Trump is a Republican. And I'm sure he's an independent one deep in his heart.
Perhaps if he became a president he would change the bipartisanship to some other regime
He's not black. He's Asian.
Quote from: taxed on August 31, 2015, 09:26:36 AM
He's not black. He's Asian.
Wait, my grasp of genetics is tenuous at best, but how does a black African and a white North American make an Asian baby? Does the blend knock the "cauc" out of caucasian?
Quote from: Ulsterking on August 31, 2015, 09:33:16 AM
Wait, my grasp of genetics is tenuous at best, but how does a black African and a white North American make an Asian baby? Does the blend knock the "cauc" out of caucasian?
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/hussein's-father-a-cult-leader-pak-subuh
Quote from: taxed on August 31, 2015, 09:41:11 AM
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/hussein's-father-a-cult-leader-pak-subuh
<puts on tin foil hat and presses play> :popcorn:
Quote from: Ulsterking on August 31, 2015, 01:39:55 PM
<puts on tin foil hat and presses play> :popcorn:
I'll let Loretta Fuddy know...
Quote from: taxed on August 31, 2015, 02:17:31 PM
I'll let Loretta Fuddy know...
Now that was a tragedy, and if this contraversy were centered around a Clinton, well nuff said.
Meanwhile, travesty as it is that for some inexplicable reason BHO wasnt publicly vetted as comprehensively as previous president elects, the electoral college gave him the votes, and DC accepted his credentials. Its bad precedent, but eight years later damage is done and there isnt any turning back the clock. Where Barry was born or who is father was doesnt matter any more than it does for Cruz. I believe Barrys mother is a white US citizen, and as far as the law goes, thats all it takes as has been established elsewhere.
Loretta Fuddy was an official with the Hawaii Health Dept.
who apparently threatened to reveal truths about B.S./B.O.'s birth certificate.
She died under suspicious circumstances in a plane crash near Hawaii's big island.
Hawaii has had a practice of allowing people to
bring a birth certificate from anywhere in the world,
and Hawaii would generate one as if the person was born in Hawaii.
But the real issue is not B.S./B.O.'s birth.
It's what happened when he was a young adult.
The whole subject is covered in considerable detail at
http://www.obamacrimes.com/p/obamas-birth-history.html
(Scroll down to - What about Obama's Indonesian Citizenship? )
In short, Barack Obama Jr. was taken to Indonesia as a child by his mother,
who was a bank employee
(whose supervisor was future Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's father!)
where she married Mr Soetoro, who adopted Barack,
and changed his name to Barry Soetoro.
(The name has never been changed back. B.S. is STILL his legal name! B.O. is an alias.)
Barry Soetoro was brought back to Hawaii by his mother when he was in high school.
He was enrolled in the exclusive Punahaou School, which was apparently arranged and paid for
by an unknown sugar daddy.
After high school, B.S./B.O. traveled to countries on the list of countries to which travel was forbidden
by the U.S. government, apparently on a passport issued by a foreign country.
This affects his citizenship. Under the laws that existed at that time,
a child born in the USA, who is adopted by a foreign national (Mr. Soetoro)
becomes a citizen of that country,
but can reclaim his U.S. citizenship within five years of turning 18,
unless he has affirmed that foreign citizenship by some "affirmative act" -
like obtaining a passport!
The bottom line is this:
Forget "natural born." B.S./B.O. is not an American citizen at all!
The Illegitimate One, who is ineligible for EVERY office he's ever held,
built his entire political career by getting his opponents taken off the ballot!
Quote from: je_freedom on August 31, 2015, 07:14:05 PM
Loretta Fuddy was an official with the Hawaii Health Dept.
who apparently threatened to reveal truths about B.S./B.O.'s birth certificate.
She died under suspicious circumstances in a plane crash near Hawaii's big island.
Hawaii has had a practice of allowing people to
bring a birth certificate from anywhere in the world,
and Hawaii would generate one as if the person was born in Hawaii.
But the real issue is not B.S./B.O.'s birth.
It's what happened when he was a young adult.
The whole subject is covered in considerable detail at
http://www.obamacrimes.com/p/obamas-birth-history.html
(Scroll down to - What about Obama's Indonesian Citizenship? )
In short, Barack Obama Jr. was taken to Indonesia as a child by his mother,
who was a bank employee
(whose supervisor was future Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's father!)
where she married Mr Soetoro, who adopted Barack,
and changed his name to Barry Soetoro.
(The name has never been changed back. B.S. is STILL his legal name! B.O. is an alias.)
Barry Soetoro was brought back to Hawaii by his mother when he was in high school.
He was enrolled in the exclusive Punahaou School, which was apparently arranged and paid for
by an unknown sugar daddy.
After high school, B.S./B.O. traveled to countries on the list of countries to which travel was forbidden
by the U.S. government, apparently on a passport issued by a foreign country.
This affects his citizenship. Under the laws that existed at that time,
a child born in the USA, who is adopted by a foreign national (Mr. Soetoro)
becomes a citizen of that country,
but can reclaim his U.S. citizenship within five years of turning 18,
unless he has affirmed that foreign citizenship by some "affirmative act" -
like obtaining a passport!
The bottom line is this:
Forget "natural born." B.S./B.O. is not an American citizen at all!
The Illegitimate One, who is ineligible for EVERY office he's ever held,
built his entire political career by getting his opponents taken off the ballot!
Alright, so what has this got to do with tomorrow and repairing the damage done? If you think you can wave a magic wand and erase what has been, well, I dont know what to tell you, except to drive on.
Growing up, I knew people here and there who obsessed about JFKs assassination for the better part of their lives. Meanwhile, the man is still dead, the next president stepped in, and another after that, and the world kept turning as man landed on the moon, went to war in Vietnam, hippies ruined the country, and so on. Tomorrow doesnt stop coming because you cant come to terms with yesterday.
Well, the info I presented should, by making clear how COMPLETELY illegitimate B.S./B.O. is,
help increase people's motivation to undo the damage.
Since he never was actually the President,
all the acts he did are every bit as illegitimate
as if a street gang overran the White House and the Capitol
and published those same acts as if they were elected officials.
I'm trying to strip away their false mask of legitimacy
so that the people will see who these people really are
and give them the loathing they deserve!
Quote from: je_freedom on August 31, 2015, 08:10:04 PM
Well, the info I presented should, by making clear how COMPLETELY illegitimate B.S./B.O. is,
help increase people's motivation to undo the damage.
Since he never was actually the President,
all the acts he did are every bit as illegitimate
as if a street gang overran the White House and the Capitol
and published those same acts as if they were elected officials.
I'm trying to strip away their false mask of legitimacy
so that the people will see who these people really are
and give them the loathing they deserve!
I think people are motivated enough. The last two midterms have shown that, by people fighting the good fight where the battle is actually taking place. Its good you know your enemy. Now you have to recognize they had the initiative and chose the ground. So if you want to fight them, you have to take it to them. Loathe them, hate them, whatever you need to do, but go get some. They arent coming to your soap box.
Whatever you know or believe you know about President Obamas background doesnt matter. He was, and thankfully for only a little while longer, is the president, and thats not going to change. No one we elect to any office is going to challenge his legitimacy and retroactively abort his abysmal reign, and frankly right now, thats not important anymore. Weve got work to be done, and problems to be solved on an entirely new battlefield. I hope to see you on the line.
Quote from: Ulsterking on August 31, 2015, 08:49:15 PM
I think people are motivated enough. The last two midterms have shown that, by people fighting the good fight where the battle is actually taking place. Its good you know your enemy. Now you have to recognize they had the initiative and chose the ground. So if you want to fight them, you have to take it to them. Loathe them, hate them, whatever you need to do, but go get some. They arent coming to your soap box.
Whatever you know or believe you know about President Obamas background doesnt matter. He was, and thankfully for only a little while longer, is the president, and thats not going to change. No one we elect to any office is going to challenge his legitimacy and retroactively abort his abysmal reign, and frankly right now, thats not important anymore. Weve got work to be done, and problems to be solved on an entirely new battlefield. I hope to see you on the line.
Quite an enlifgtening conversation you two have going.
I believe you're both right. I like your point about a new battlefield, not that anything really changed, just that the enemy has been exposed, and the enemy is us.
We've been duped into fighting against our own best interests by the very people we thought Represented our interests.
That's how I see the battle field changed, we're now fighting on two fronts, the original leftists enemy and now, the enemy within.
The difference now, is we have a well defined enemy, Both Party's, and we're seizing one of them for our own.
Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 05:36:03 AM
Quite an enlifgtening conversation you two have going.
I believe you're both right. I like your point about a new battlefield, not that anything really changed, just that the enemy has been exposed, and the enemy is us.
We've been duped into fighting against our own best interests by the very people we thought Represented our interests.
That's how I see the battle field changed, we're now fighting on two fronts, the original leftists enemy and now, the enemy within.
The difference now, is we have a well defined enemy, Both Party's, and we're seizing one of them for our own.
That was occuring to me as I wrote it. The left has always been pretty well defined, if you pull back and look at the forest for the trees. While the dupes at the proletariat level may have different divisions and motivations, the general staff can be summed up in one word. Powermonger. That is what Progressive means in plain english. Control, by one party in command of the most refined tyranny by committee devised by man.
Then, as you say, there are the inventors of the ideology to contend with. It saddens me to speak with Republicans who are ignorant of their own history. Radical Republicans refined and codified judicial activism, and social engineering during Reconstruction, and those tactics would inspire Theodore Roosevelts thinking when establishing his Progressive Party. Those Republicans never went away, and though not as tyrannical and transformative as the Democrats who are more militant in pursuing anti-constitutional ideology, they are anti-libertarian enough to cause a permanent rift between the elite and the base. So they are always the first hurdle, and a pretty significant one these days as we are in dire need of some minarchism.
Meanwhile, other than his contraversial vetting (or lack thereof) Obama isnt that remarkable. While certainly the closest thing to a Manchurian Candidate as weve probably had, he isnt unique in any real sense. Weve had executive tyrants before. Andrew Jackson, the first godfather of the Democrat Party was virtually a military dictator. Woodrow Wilson transformed the Republic more than Obama could ever dream with the 16th and 17th amendments which would give DC unlimited and unaccountable power of the purse and begin the marginalizing of state government. FDR almost restructured SCOTUS itself to empower his machinations and like Barry governed primarily through a huge collective of czars backed by executive order. So taken as a whole, Obama is just a manufactured caricature of a variety of greater personalities. His being an inexperienced straw man saved us more trouble than is generally realized. Had Obama been Hillary, we would be truly living in a different world today.
Quote from: Ulsterking on September 01, 2015, 07:13:03 AM
That was occuring to me as I wrote it. The left has always been pretty well defined, if you pull back and look at the forest for the trees. While the dupes at the proletariat level may have different divisions and motivations, the general staff can be summed up in one word. Powermonger. That is what Progressive means in plain english. Control, by one party in command of the most refined tyranny by committee devised by man.
Then, as you say, there are the inventors of the ideology to contend with. It saddens me to speak with Republicans who are ignorant of their own history. Radical Republicans refined and codified judicial activism, and social engineering during Reconstruction, and those tactics would inspire Theodore Roosevelts thinking when establishing his Progressive Party. Those Republicans never went away, and though not as tyrannical and transformative as the Democrats who are more militant in pursuing anti-constitutional ideology, they are anti-libertarian enough to cause a permanent rift between the elite and the base. So they are always the first hurdle, and a pretty significant one these days as we are in dire need of some minarchism.
Meanwhile, other than his contraversial vetting (or lack thereof) Obama isnt that remarkable. While certainly the closest thing to a Manchurian Candidate as weve probably had, he isnt unique in any real sense. Weve had executive tyrants before. Andrew Jackson, the first godfather of the Democrat Party was virtually a military dictator. Woodrow Wilson transformed the Republic more than Obama could ever dream with the 16th and 17th amendments which would give DC unlimited and unaccountable power of the purse and begin the marginalizing of state government. FDR almost restructured SCOTUS itself to empower his machinations and like Barry governed primarily through a huge collective of czars backed by executive order. So taken as a whole, Obama is just a manufactured caricature of a variety of greater personalities. His being an inexperienced straw man saved us more trouble than is generally realized. Had Obama been Hillary, we would be truly living in a different world today.
Believe it or not, being dyslexic, what you wrote is near impossible to read because to me, it's just a mass of letters.
Please break up long posts with the enter key. Thanks.
Quote from: Ulsterking on August 31, 2015, 03:50:23 PM
Now that was a tragedy,
Tragedy? Maybe look a little more at that crash, where everyone lived and didn't get a scrape on them.
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and if this contraversy were centered around a Clinton, well nuff said.
I'll let Larry Sinclair and Donald Young know.
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Meanwhile, travesty as it is that for some inexplicable reason BHO wasnt publicly vetted as comprehensively as previous president elects, the electoral college gave him the votes, and DC accepted his credentials. Its bad precedent, but eight years later damage is done and there isnt any turning back the clock. Where Barry was born or who is father was doesnt matter any more than it does for Cruz. I believe Barrys mother is a white US citizen, and as far as the law goes, thats all it takes as has been established elsewhere.
That has absolutely no relevance to me. I am bringing up a black and white issue. Fact: his "birth certificate" is a forgery. Not just a forgery, but a very, very bad one. I've never thought beyond that. To my way of thinking, people need to understand his doc was forged first before contemplating anything else. If you are not willing to research the issue, and inform others when the topic comes up, then I have a hard time understanding that.
Quote from: taxed on September 01, 2015, 10:18:39 AM
Tragedy? Maybe look a little more at that crash, where everyone lived and didn't get a scrape on them.
I'll let Larry Sinclair and Donald Young know.
That has absolutely no relevance to me. I am bringing up a black and white issue. Fact: his "birth certificate" is a forgery. Not just a forgery, but a very, very bad one. I've never thought beyond that. To my way of thinking, people need to understand his doc was forged first before contemplating anything else. If you are not willing to research the issue, and inform others when the topic comes up, then I have a hard time understanding that.
Not to mention Hussein's illegal SSN#.
Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 10:23:33 AM
Not to mention Hussein's illegal SSN#.
The Marxists had quite the network going on...
Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 10:23:33 AM
Not to mention Hussein's illegal SSN#.
Which comes back to the all to obvious. We are a country without law. We can see it in every single scandal since he took office. We see it with the Clinton email fiasco. She should be in prison and so should he. Instead it is just a way to keep the media going. We watch night after night about Hillary's emails but what is going to come of it. We see in the media also that the experts don't think anything will come of it.
Charles Rangel - Tax evasion- censure not prison. Politics!!........America
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on September 01, 2015, 04:16:51 PM
Which comes back to the all to obvious. We are a country without law. We can see it in every single scandal since he took office. We see it with the Clinton email fiasco. She should be in prison and so should he. Instead it is just a way to keep the media going. We watch night after night about Hillary's emails but what is going to come of it. We see in the media also that the experts don't think anything will come of it.
Charles Rangel - Tax evasion- censure not prison. Politics!!........America
Did you hear Rush on this today? He blames the Republicans. They should be heading for the microphones and demand she be indicted. Instead we just "discuss' her scandals. DEMOCRATS don't operate this way. They take advantage.
Top Racists and Neo-Nazis? That must include this guy, too:
http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/09/01/illegal-immigrant-gets-prison-for-selling-grenades-in-texas-deported-twice-before/
Oh, so sorry, please forgive me. That wasn't politically correct at all, was it?
Still, I'm sure this guy must support Trump, racist homophobe represented. That is what you meant, isn't it? I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from. Oh, wait, you meant the KKK type supremacist, didn't you. (I'm only being careful not to injure your feelings, here, you know?) So, is this the guy Trump called out? I mean, in his rant?
This guy has quite a dilemma. He is plainly nazi supremacist militia type. Who can he turn to? Maybe CPF can offer some aid and comfort. Hope so, for his sake. Otherwise, he's got a real problem, doesn't he? You really know how to confuse the issue, don't you?
Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 07:40:21 AM
Believe it or not, being dyslexic, what you wrote is near impossible to read because to me, it's just a mass of letters.
Please break up long posts with the enter key. Thanks.
One way to cope with that is to copy the gray area of text
and paste it into another program, like WordPad or Notepad,
and then you can chop it up as you like.
Sometimes I receive emails that are three screens wide,
and refuse all attempts at word wrap.
I refuse to scroll left and right to read each line of text!
The style of formatting I'm using in this message
goes back at least as far as Buckminster Fuller.
He called the style "ventilated prose."
A writer's goal should always be
to make his message as easy to read as possible!
Quote from: Solar on September 01, 2015, 10:23:33 AM
Not to mention Hussein's illegal SSN#.
Which one? He's had a dozen of them!
Maybe you mean the Connecticut SSN?
Since The Illegitimate One has
never lived in Connecticut,
I suppose that one is the illegalest.
The country has descended into lawlessness. The lawless element feels it has the approval of the president, which is more than it takes, really. Obama has broken the world's record for restraining orders issues during any six month period of his presidency. The summer of '15 has turned out to be a lulu. Crime records are falling like dominoes.
Quote from: carlb on September 01, 2015, 04:24:26 PM
Did you hear Rush on this today? He blames the Republicans. They should be heading for the microphones and demand she be indicted. Instead we just "discuss' her scandals. DEMOCRATS don't operate this way. They take advantage.
Yes exactly they should. I can't understand it. I am at a point where I don't want to hear about it anymore. I only want to hear it when they have her in hand cuffs hauling her to jail. I don't know how many hundred times we can hear about emails. How many times can you spin the story? It has become boring news and another reminder of how incompetent our Republican party is.
Quote from: red_dirt on September 01, 2015, 07:58:35 PM
The country has descended into lawlessness. The lawless element feels it has the approval of the president, which is more than it takes, really. Obama has broken the world's record for restraining orders issues during any six month period of his presidency. The summer of '15 has turned out to be a lulu. Crime records are falling like dominoes.
I don't blame the Marxist, that's like blaming cockroaches for your dirty House, it's the GOP whom I hold responsible, it was their job as guardians/exterminators to keep our House safe.
Not only did they fail, they assisted the Marxist in his endeavors to destroy this great nation.
Quote from: red_dirt on September 01, 2015, 07:58:35 PM
The country has descended into lawlessness. The lawless element feels it has the approval of the president, which is more than it takes, really. Obama has broken the world's record for restraining orders issues during any six month period of his presidency. The summer of '15 has turned out to be a lulu. Crime records are falling like dominoes.
Not trying to argue, but could you please be more specific. What exact crimes are you talking about?
And BTW voting for Cruz obviously won't bring you to the lawful and crimeless society!
Quote from: ReadyToShoot on September 05, 2015, 09:52:14 AM
Not trying to argue, but could you please be more specific. What exact crimes are you talking about?
And BTW voting for Cruz obviously won't bring you to the lawful and crimeless society!
Why do you say that? Remember NY under Dinkins? Remember how everything changed under Rudy Giuliani? Good leadership makes a huge difference. Bad leadership gets us anarchy and race war.
Quote from: ReadyToShoot on September 05, 2015, 09:52:14 AM
Not trying to argue, but could you please be more specific. What exact crimes are you talking about?
In Baltimore, homicides are up 60% and shootings are up 105%.
Milwaukee murder rate up 140%
St Louis up 50%
DC up 44% and shockingly, Chicago only up 20%
Quote from: Dori on September 05, 2015, 03:30:09 PM
In Baltimore, homicides are up 60% and shootings are up 105%.
Milwaukee murder rate up 140%
St Louis up 50%
DC up 44% and shockingly, Chicago only up 20%
Not shocking to me. Can Chicago get any worse? They're waiting for the rest of the country to catch up.
Quote from: Dori on September 05, 2015, 03:30:09 PM
In Baltimore, homicides are up 60% and shootings are up 105%.
Milwaukee murder rate up 140%
St Louis up 50%
DC up 44% and shockingly, Chicago only up 20%
Chicago only up 20% over what? Their murder rate was already through the roof!
Quote from: ReadyToShoot on September 05, 2015, 09:52:14 AM
Not trying to argue, but could you please be more specific. What exact crimes are you talking about. And BTW voting for Cruz obviously won't bring you to the lawful and crimeless society!
Of course replacing Obama with anyone would be a huge step in the right direction.
One thing we cannot help but notice is the main stream media stopped reporting on the
Obama crime wave in 2012.
Here are a couple of sites that deal with the topic, violent crime rate soars under Obama.
Not sure why you have to ask. It's pretty much common knowledge.
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/oct2012/mikec1019.htm
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2012/10/obama-doj-growth-in-violent-crimes-against-whites/
http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2012/05/black-people-responsible-for-virtually.html
http://canadafreepress.com/article/50409
Quote from: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 03:56:51 PM
Chicago only up 20% over what? Their murder rate was already through the roof!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Running out of targets?
Why doesn't Mexico have a track and field team? Because everyone who can run and jump is already across the border!
Donald Trump told me that. :lol:
Quote from: carlb on September 06, 2015, 04:18:59 AM
Why doesn't Mexico have a track and field team? Because everyone who can run and jump is already across the border!
Donald Trump told me that. :lol:
That was good!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Rush Limbaugh speaks well of Donald Trump
but stops short of endorsing him
because Rush has played golf with Donald.
He knows him personally.
Rush acknowledges that Donald is not a social conservative,
but he also is definitely NOT an Establishment pawn,
as some people seem to think.
For decades, the difference between left and right has been,
"Which way is best for America?"
The Illegitimate One has now made the question to be,
"How can we most quickly destroy America?"
Quote from: je_freedom on September 06, 2015, 05:37:15 PM
Rush Limbaugh speaks well of Donald Trump
but stops short of endorsing him
because Rush has played golf with Donald.
He knows him personally.
Rush acknowledges that Donald is not a social conservative,
but he also is definitely NOT an Establishment pawn,
as some people seem to think.
For decades, the difference between left and right has been,
"Which way is best for America?"
The Illegitimate One has now made the question to be,
"How can we most quickly destroy America?"
He never publicly endorses anyone during the primary season. Glenn Beck has endorsed Cruz.