Quote from: kit saginaw on February 05, 2016, 08:41:03 AM
So in the span of less than two weeks, Rush is suddenly not conservative enough and Hannity suddenly isn't conservative enough.  That's ridiculous.  The next TEA-meeting here is on the 8th.  I guarantee there'll be zero outrage about the occasional 'glowing comments' those two have made about whomever.   

O'Reilly reads some of his emails at the end of his show each night.  He's always accused of being in the tank for one candidate or another.   

Limbaugh has talent on loan from God! Everyone else is just jealous.

I've been listening to Rush since 1999, when I was 14 years old. He is the reason I learned to embrace fiscal conservatism. Rush is a Conservative Icon. Just because he doesn't think Cruz is the Messiah and Rubio the Devil, it doesn't make Rush any less of a paragon of conservative virtues.

Quote from: Skeptic on February 05, 2016, 09:10:52 AM
Limbaugh has talent on loan from God! Everyone else is just jealous.

I've been listening to Rush since 1999, when I was 14 years old. He is the reason I learned to embrace fiscal conservatism. Rush is a Conservative Icon. Just because he doesn't think Cruz is the Messiah and Rubio the Devil, it doesn't make Rush any less of a paragon of conservative virtues.

Your just a young pup yet.  I have grandkids older then you.   

Quote from: kit saginaw on February 05, 2016, 08:41:03 AM
So in the span of less than two weeks, Rush is suddenly not conservative enough and Hannity suddenly isn't conservative enough.  That's ridiculous.  The next TEA-meeting here is on the 8th.  I guarantee there'll be zero outrage about the occasional 'glowing comments' those two have made about whomever.   

No, since he started carrying water for a lib and now a RINO.
Oh and as for Hannity, he's always been a RINO. Jeeeez Kit, wake up!

Quote from: Skeptic on February 05, 2016, 09:10:52 AM
Limbaugh has talent on loan from God! Everyone else is just jealous.

I've been listening to Rush since 1999, when I was 14 years old. He is the reason I learned to embrace fiscal conservatism. Rush is a Conservative Icon. Just because he doesn't think Cruz is the Messiah and Rubio the Devil, it doesn't make Rush any less of a paragon of conservative virtues.

This explains so much about your grasp on current politics.

Quote from: Solar on February 05, 2016, 12:17:18 PM
No, since he started carrying water for a lib and now a RINO.
Oh and as for Hannity, he's always been a RINO. Jeeeez Kit, wake up!

I've always suspected that, if Rush and Sean were fully conservative,
the Establishment wouldn't let them on the air.

When the San Jose Mercury News published their investigative report
about the CIA being the primary drug cartel in America,
Rush dismissed it as "conspiracy theory."

Never mind George H W Bush and Bill Clinton's personal involvement in all that.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Quote from: Solar on February 04, 2016, 06:52:38 AM
As I said before, I've listened to Rush since long before he went national, I even credit Rush for developing my critical thinking skills.
But over the years he never really challenged the Establishments statusquo up until recently and it was refreshing, but the minute he started backing Trump, his values were in question, but now he's actually trying to convince Conservatives that Rubio isn't Establishment.

But what's really sad here, is Rush recognizes Cruz as the standard bearer of Conservatism in comparing Rubio to Cruz, yet he still pushes the lying Rubio as a Conservative.
Rush, Conservatives don't lie to their constituency claiming Conservative principle, then stab them in the back.

I'm afraid Rush may have just lost half his loyal audience, I know I no longer tune in.

I don't like this idea that Marco Rubio is all of a sudden being labeled as an establishment candidate. I know that Rubio's got the baggage of that 'gang of eight' bill. And I know that in many people's minds, he's got the baggage of wanting to grant the current number of illegals citizenship. I understand that. But I'm here to – Marco Rubio is no moderate Republican centrist. I'm not – I could sit here like anybody else could and try to make explanations for you of why he did the gang of eight. But I'm not even going to try to put words into his mouth. I don't want to be seen as making excuses. I'm just telling you, I don't see Marco Rubio as anything other than a legitimate, full-throated conservative. Nobody's pure and nobody is ever free of making mistakes.

I have – I know Senator Rubio... I know these people, I know that Senator Rubio is [in] the Senate, in many ways he agrees with Cruz, but...he's just worn out with the Senate...I heard this from Allen West, when he left the House, the incumbents, all they care about is getting re-elected. You go there, to really make a difference, and you're run into brick wall after brick wall after brick wall. And I don't think Rubio wants to stay there 30 years to break through the wall to get a committee chairmanship or whatever. I don't like this idea that we're all of a sudden going to make Rubio the establishment bad guy, as though Rubio is no different from the McCains, and the Bob Doles, and the Romneys, and the others that have come along and been nominated by the establishment. He just isn't.

http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2016/02/03/watch-rush-limbaugh-call-marco-rubio-legitimate-full-throated-conservative/

I heard that broadcast Solar.  I could have thrown my radio out the door when he started in telling the audience how much of a conservative Rubio is.  To top it off, Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy have both endorsed Rubio.  How do these people sleep at night, knowing they would like to see this country slide on down and off the chart?  Rush really messed up with this one indeed.

Quote from: keyboarder on February 05, 2016, 11:36:48 PM
I heard that broadcast Solar.  I could have thrown my radio out the door when he started in telling the audience how much of a conservative Rubio is.  To top it off, Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy have both endorsed Rubio.  How do these people sleep at night, knowing they would like to see this country slide on down and off the chart?  Rush really messed up with this one indeed.

That's just it Key, turds do not come with a hook in which one can handle them safely, nor a clean end is which one can hold it.
Rush not only stepped in it, but he owns that turd for trying to polish it and make it acceptable to the base Right.
Thirty years on the radio, and this is the one moment Conservatives will never forget, or forgive, unless they gullible idiots.

Quote from: je_freedom on February 05, 2016, 07:42:00 PM
I've always suspected that, if Rush and Sean were fully conservative,
the Establishment wouldn't let them on the air.

When the San Jose Mercury News published their investigative report
about the CIA being the primary drug cartel in America,
Rush dismissed it as "conspiracy theory."

Never mind George H W Bush and Bill Clinton's personal involvement in all that.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Roger Ailes. That alone should make one suspect by itself.

Quote from: keyboarder on February 05, 2016, 11:36:48 PM
I heard that broadcast Solar.  I could have thrown my radio out the door when he started in telling the audience how much of a conservative Rubio is.  To top it off, Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy have both endorsed Rubio.  How do these people sleep at night, knowing they would like to see this country slide on down and off the chart?  Rush really messed up with this one indeed.

Hey Key, long time no see and we're concerned.
So I'll respond to your post since it triggers an email. (You can change it back to not send an email, or I can for you)

Second point being how this thread ties into how Rush is in full obfuscation mode today.
He is covering everything but the rabid elephant in the room holding a full auto machine gun with unlimited ammo.
Yeah, here we have the GOP stealing the convention in support of a lib, and all Rush talks about is the defense of Melania's plagiarism.

Does Rush even have an audience anymore?

The blowhard lost me a decade ago. Same with Hannity. 

Speaking of radio personalities, yup, not much depth there.

Laura Ingram is taking the "shaming" tact, if you signed the pledge, you -MUST- endorse and work to see the GOP candidate elected.  Sorry, I'm immune from silly arguments, if you think Trump is the best we can muster, follow him on the campaign trail, be a Trump-groupie.  But.....

.... If the guy insults MY WIFE, habitually LIES about me and goes on a year long 'destroy the candidate, mission' - that's a deal breaker.  Sorry, without a sincere PUBLIC apology tour - everything negative he said is the "wall" he personally built.  Tear it down, Donald, it's your creation, not Ted's.  Ted isn't a sorry loser, but it's becoming obvious - you're a poor winner!  Now show us a tiny sliver of humanity, and apologize to Ted Cruz.  After that, start moving in OUR direction - because our principles are lifetime principals.  We're not going to use pogo sticks to jump onto the Trump Train, you extend a hand, put your media savy to use and look at us when you're talking about us.

Rush Limbaugh is busy dissecting the the Trump / Manifort technique - which helps fill in 3 hours of broadcast time, and saves you from actually talking about Trump's flip-flopping on the issues... like he normally would.  Ok, we understand Donald Trump is good at playing the MSM, yup, heard it a lot lately, ...and it's BORING!  I suppose if one doesn't publically examine the political policy of his friend, Donald, then when Donald starts acting like a "normal irrational liberal", you'll be free from criticism.  In the meantime, coast until you run out of steam... which is any day now.

Sean Hannity, Mr. Unbelievable is .... pretty .... much .... 'unbelievable'.   Not ever known for any solid position on any conservative issue - he sounds like a classic RINO... impossible to just clearly state what political position he sincerely holds.  It's like misplacing your favorite Red Stapler, he's relentless in his quest to find the real conservative Sean Hannity.  When he says, "I don't know how some people can sleep at night..."  I like to say, 'tell us, Sean, how do you sleep at night...?'  I gotta admit, Hannity has never been an entertainer.

Michael Savage likes to be known as the guy who had something to do with elevating Donald Trump.  If I called his show, "aaahem... Dr. Savage, what's your take on Trump seemingly abandoning your program for Hannity, Limbaugh, etc?  Has Donald Trump decided coming on your program might poison his chances of being nominated?  Don't you think he OWES you for all the promotion - and now he's forsaken you?"
Yes, I'd bait the blow-hard and let him blow up on the air in some uncontrolled rant about how smart he is, and how stupid everyone else is....  sorry, it'd be kinda hard to resist tweeking his ego, a little push over the edge.

sigh....

Quote from: Hoofer on July 20, 2016, 07:36:40 PM
Speaking of radio personalities, yup, not much depth there.

Laura Ingram is taking the "shaming" tact, if you signed the pledge, you -MUST- endorse and work to see the GOP candidate elected.  Sorry, I'm immune from silly arguments, if you think Trump is the best we can muster, follow him on the campaign trail, be a Trump-groupie.  But.....

.... If the guy insults MY WIFE, habitually LIES about me and goes on a year long 'destroy the candidate, mission' - that's a deal breaker.  Sorry, without a sincere PUBLIC apology tour - everything negative he said is the "wall" he personally built.  Tear it down, Donald, it's your creation, not Ted's.  Ted isn't a sorry loser, but it's becoming obvious - you're a poor winner!  Now show us a tiny sliver of humanity, and apologize to Ted Cruz.  After that, start moving in OUR direction - because our principles are lifetime principals.  We're not going to use pogo sticks to jump onto the Trump Train, you extend a hand, put your media savy to use and look at us when you're talking about us.

Rush Limbaugh is busy dissecting the the Trump / Manifort technique - which helps fill in 3 hours of broadcast time, and saves you from actually talking about Trump's flip-flopping on the issues... like he normally would.  Ok, we understand Donald Trump is good at playing the MSM, yup, heard it a lot lately, ...and it's BORING!  I suppose if one doesn't publically examine the political policy of his friend, Donald, then when Donald starts acting like a "normal irrational liberal", you'll be free from criticism.  In the meantime, coast until you run out of steam... which is any day now.

Sean Hannity, Mr. Unbelievable is .... pretty .... much .... 'unbelievable'.   Not ever known for any solid position on any conservative issue - he sounds like a classic RINO... impossible to just clearly state what political position he sincerely holds.  It's like misplacing your favorite Red Stapler, he's relentless in his quest to find the real conservative Sean Hannity.  When he says, "I don't know how some people can sleep at night..."  I like to say, 'tell us, Sean, how do you sleep at night...?'  I gotta admit, Hannity has never been an entertainer.

Michael Savage likes to be known as the guy who had something to do with elevating Donald Trump.  If I called his show, "aaahem... Dr. Savage, what's your take on Trump seemingly abandoning your program for Hannity, Limbaugh, etc?  Has Donald Trump decided coming on your program might poison his chances of being nominated?  Don't you think he OWES you for all the promotion - and now he's forsaken you?"
Yes, I'd bait the blow-hard and let him blow up on the air in some uncontrolled rant about how smart he is, and how stupid everyone else is....  sorry, it'd be kinda hard to resist tweeking his ego, a little push over the edge.

sigh....

It must be tough now, with Ailes getting the boot over his Establishment connection and damaging the FOX product, Rush selling his soul, Hannity's always been a RINO sellout, but Savage always claiming "Liberalism a brain disorder", then doing exactly what he railed against,. and endorsed a NY Lib.
Yes, it must be tough being on the SS Titanic/GOP and beating women and children for their place on the lifeboats, yeah real men of character, every one of those traitorous bastards deserve what the future holds for them, while trailing off into obscurity.

Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
It must be tough now, with Ailes getting the boot over his Establishment connection and damaging the FOX product, Rush selling his soul, Hannity's always been a RINO sellout, but Savage always claiming "Liberalism a brain disorder", then doing exactly what he railed against,. and endorsed a NY Lib.
Yes, it must be tough being on the SS Titanic/GOP and beating women and children for their place on the lifeboats, yeah real men of character, every one of those traitorous bastards deserve what the future holds for them, while trailing off into obscurity.

Maybe I've got Roger Ailes mixed up with someone else... isn't he the guy both Rush and Sean always had high praise for?

Quote from: Hoofer on July 20, 2016, 07:58:52 PM
Maybe I've got Roger Ailes mixed up with someone else... isn't he the guy both Rush and Sean always had high praise for?

Yes, Ailes made both of them, if not for Ailes, Rush would still be in Sacramento on KFBK broadcasting to the central valley.
Ailes is the ultimate RINO, a Karl Rove on super steroids, only a behind the scene manipulator out of the lime light.
It was he that made the deal with Murdoch to make FOX the Establishment Infomercial headquarters, and they could still be pulling the wool over people's eyes to date, had it not been for the likes of Boner and the Con.

Then to add insult to injury, made the case for the Omnibus Bill where they gave the Marxists everything they demanded and more, only to to turn right around and keep Cruz in the dark by ignoring him on FOX news, then to foolishly back Jeb for the next couple of months, and a succession of Establishment sellouts till finally milking Rubio to death, just long enough to suck delegates off of Cruz in support of Trump.

After all is said and done, Murdoch made a business decision and booted the Establishments middle man, Ailes.
Whether or not Murdoch continues their arrangement is yet to be seen, but whatever he does, it will be done in total secrecy.
But if he keeps the connection, it'll be obvious by the end of the month.