As I said before, I've listened to Rush since long before he went national, I even credit Rush for developing my critical thinking skills.
But over the years he never really challenged the Establishments statusquo up until recently and it was refreshing, but the minute he started backing Trump, his values were in question, but now he's actually trying to convince Conservatives that Rubio isn't Establishment.
But what's really sad here, is Rush recognizes Cruz as the standard bearer of Conservatism in comparing Rubio to Cruz, yet he still pushes the lying Rubio as a Conservative.
Rush, Conservatives don't lie to their constituency claiming Conservative principle, then stab them in the back.
I'm afraid Rush may have just lost half his loyal audience, I know I no longer tune in.
I don't like this idea that Marco Rubio is all of a sudden being labeled as an establishment candidate. I know that Rubio's got the baggage of that 'gang of eight' bill. And I know that in many people's minds, he's got the baggage of wanting to grant the current number of illegals citizenship. I understand that. But I'm here to – Marco Rubio is no moderate Republican centrist. I'm not – I could sit here like anybody else could and try to make explanations for you of why he did the gang of eight. But I'm not even going to try to put words into his mouth. I don't want to be seen as making excuses. I'm just telling you, I don't see Marco Rubio as anything other than a legitimate, full-throated conservative. Nobody's pure and nobody is ever free of making mistakes.
I have – I know Senator Rubio... I know these people, I know that Senator Rubio is [in] the Senate, in many ways he agrees with Cruz, but...he's just worn out with the Senate...I heard this from Allen West, when he left the House, the incumbents, all they care about is getting re-elected. You go there, to really make a difference, and you're run into brick wall after brick wall after brick wall. And I don't think Rubio wants to stay there 30 years to break through the wall to get a committee chairmanship or whatever. I don't like this idea that we're all of a sudden going to make Rubio the establishment bad guy, as though Rubio is no different from the McCains, and the Bob Doles, and the Romneys, and the others that have come along and been nominated by the establishment. He just isn't.
http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2016/02/03/watch-rush-limbaugh-call-marco-rubio-legitimate-full-throated-conservative/
I still think Rubio has a 60% chance of being the nominee, vs. a 40% chance for Ted. Honestly, I would happily suppot either one over Hillary Clinton. I think there is room in the party to disagree over which is better, Rubio or Cruz. This should not be a coronation like the Democrats are trying to do with Hillary.
Let's hear Rubio and Cruz out, let's hear both sides, and let the people decide on their own which one they want. Ted has to earn the nomination...it's not going to be handed to him in a silver platter.
Look, Ted has a real chance especially if Rubio fails to take away Bush's supporters and rally them behind him, but he has to earn it by showing why he is worth it of our support. Even the NY Times agrees Ted can prevail over Rubio and has a good shot, but it's not a guarantee and he has to go out there and sell would-be Rubio supporters on the idea that he, Ted Cruz, is the one to support.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/opinion/campaign-stops/the-plausibility-of-ted-cruz.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
Quote from: Skeptic on February 04, 2016, 07:43:40 AM
I still think Rubio has a 60% chance of being the nominee, vs. a 40% chance for Ted. Honestly, I would happily suppot either one over Hillary Clinton. I think there is room in the party to disagree over which is better, Rubio or Cruz. This should not be a coronation like the Democrats are trying to do with Hillary.
Let's hear Rubio and Cruz out, let's hear both sides, and let the people decide on their own which one they want. Ted has to earn the nomination...it's not going to be handed to him in a silver platter.
Look, Ted has a real chance especially if Rubio fails to take away Bush's supporters and rally them behind him, but he has to earn it by showing why he is worth it of our support. Even the NY Times agrees Ted can prevail over Rubio and has a good shot, but it's not a guarantee and he has to go out there and sell would-be Rubio supporters on the idea that he, Ted Cruz, is the one to support.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/04/opinion/campaign-stops/the-plausibility-of-ted-cruz.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
Anyone paying close attention knows the base will not support Rubio RINO, it really is that simple, despite people like Rush spinning bull shit.
There's a reason Trump lost despite the polls, he's a lib, and Rubio is cut from the same deceptive cloth.
I have no idea who the people will support. We shall find out next week, won't we?
Just today I've seen two NH polls. One puts Jeb Bush in second place behind Donald Trump, the other puts Rubio in second place, with Cruz in 3rd and Jeb in 4rth.
Honestly, with polls like that, who knows what to even believe.I'm sure the polls will be just as accurate as Iowa, which means we just don't know until people go out and vote. Everything else is just white noise. For all we know, Ted Cruz may win NH. :biggrin:
This also happened on Rush's show the same day:
RUSH: Linda in Tampa. I want to squeeze a phone call in here before the half hour expires. How are you, Linda?
CALLER: Hi, Rush. Nice talking to you.
RUSH: Same here.
CALLER: The sad thing is, I'm gonna have disagree with you. I can't believe it.
RUSH: (sigh)
CALLER: But on Rubio, I disagree.
RUSH: Okay.
CALLER: I think he's nothing more than an opportunist
who will say and do whatever it takes to get elected.
When he was testing the waters here in Florida for his Senate run,
we held a meet-and-greet for him with lots of grassroots in attendance.
He introduced himself and immediately started in on the immigration plans he had.
And, you know, "out of the shadows," "pathway to citizenship," all that stuff.
We all rose up and let him know that we did not approve; we were not interested in that.
He said he heard us, he understood, and a lot of us went out of our way,
did everything we could for him to get him elected.
He got to DC and the first thing he did? Gang of Eight.
Now we're hearing the same slick talk and speeches that he said in Florida,
and we think amnesty has always been his first priority.
And now we find out there's been over two dozen immigration enforcement plans
introduced up in Washington, and he has not cosponsored even one.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/02/03/what_i_know_about_marco_rubio
Rush is arguing that Rubio has always been
solidly conservative on every issue except immigration.
Ann Coulter has been proclaiming the message that,
losing on immigration means soon losing forever on ALL issues!
The Dems' objective is to flood the ballot boxes with
20 million illegal immigrant voters
to put conservative victory WAY out of reach
in any national election.
Quote from: Solar on February 04, 2016, 07:58:55 AM
Anyone paying close attention knows the base will not support Rubio RINO, it really is that simple, despite people like Rush spinning bull shit.
You're looking at Rush through the lens of an election-cycle... 12-months out of every 48. His principled viability is way more than 1-year out of 4. -Same with Ingraham and Levin.
Fans forgive
clunkers if the spirit's still there. Otherwise the Rolling Stones would've vanished by the early 70's.
Quote from: kit saginaw on February 04, 2016, 08:18:13 AM
You're looking at Rush through the lens of an election-cycle... 12-months out of every 48. His principled viability is way more than 1-year out of 4. -Same with Ingraham and Levin.
Fans forgive clunkers if the spirit's still there. Otherwise the Rolling Stones would've vanished by the early 70's.
No, this is the first time in history he's tossed his values aside and backed liberals/RINO.
How is it you can't see that?
Quote from: Solar on February 04, 2016, 09:11:07 AM
No, this is the first time in history he's tossed his values aside and backed liberals/RINO.
How is it you can't see that?
I see an election-cycle. He's going to talk about all the candidates sooner or later... in the moment. How has he tossed his values aside?
Nah, I don't believe it. I'm finding nothing that hints he's changing the
meat and potatoes of his show's tradition. I'm sure
Gallup still has him on top of their 'who speaks for the Republican Party most' poll, which he's led almost every year since the Stones Age, except for being 2nd to Cheney and Gingrich a couple times.
'Going over the edge' means switching Parties.
Quote from: kit saginaw on February 04, 2016, 08:09:59 PM
I see an election-cycle. He's going to talk about all the candidates sooner or later... in the moment. How has he tossed his values aside?
Nah, I don't believe it. I'm finding nothing that hints he's changing the meat and potatoes of his show's tradition. I'm sure Gallup still has him on top of their 'who speaks for the Republican Party most' poll, which he's led almost every year since the Stones Age, except for being 2nd to Cheney and Gingrich a couple times.
'Going over the edge' means switching Parties.
He's propping up Trump, a known liberal. What more do you need?
If he gave Cruz half the time he devoted to Trump, Trump would be dropping out already.
If you don't believe me, just do a simple search for Rush backing the liberal, or choose any words you prefer, but the comment sections of Discuss are packed full of pissed off Rush fans over his support for Trump..
Quote from: Solar on February 04, 2016, 08:24:53 PM
He's propping up Trump, a known liberal. What more do you need?
If he gave Cruz half the time he devoted to Trump, Trump would be dropping out already.
If you don't believe me, just do a simple search for Rush backing the liberal, or choose any words you prefer, but the comment sections of Discuss are packed full of pissed off Rush fans over his support for Trump..
Here...
http://wn.com/ted_cruz_and_rush_limbaugh_discuss_the_washingtoncartel_and_the_corrupt_exim_bank_deal
also available on Cruz's own site
I'll say it for the third time... Rush has only hosted 2
live interviews in the last decade... the other was Henry Kissinger.
Even last week, Rush was slamming Iowa and their ethanol-subsidies crap. Where's the anti-conservative rhetoric?
Quote from: kit saginaw on February 04, 2016, 09:10:05 PM
Here...
http://wn.com/ted_cruz_and_rush_limbaugh_discuss_the_washingtoncartel_and_the_corrupt_exim_bank_deal
also available on Cruz's own site
I'll say it for the third time... Rush has only hosted 2 live interviews in the last decade... the other was Henry Kissinger.
Even last week, Rush was slamming Iowa and their ethanol-subsidies crap. Where's the anti-conservative rhetoric?
There isn't any. This is getting rediculous. It's not Rush "going over the edge."
Quote from: Solar on February 04, 2016, 06:52:38 AM
As I said before, I've listened to Rush since long before he went national, I even credit Rush for developing my critical thinking skills.
But over the years he never really challenged the Establishments statusquo up until recently and it was refreshing, but the minute he started backing Trump, his values were in question, but now he's actually trying to convince Conservatives that Rubio isn't Establishment.
But what's really sad here, is Rush recognizes Cruz as the standard bearer of Conservatism in comparing Rubio to Cruz, yet he still pushes the lying Rubio as a Conservative.
Rush, Conservatives don't lie to their constituency claiming Conservative principle, then stab them in the back.
I'm afraid Rush may have just lost half his loyal audience, I know I no longer tune in.
I don't like this idea that Marco Rubio is all of a sudden being labeled as an establishment candidate. I know that Rubio's got the baggage of that 'gang of eight' bill. And I know that in many people's minds, he's got the baggage of wanting to grant the current number of illegals citizenship. I understand that. But I'm here to – Marco Rubio is no moderate Republican centrist. I'm not – I could sit here like anybody else could and try to make explanations for you of why he did the gang of eight. But I'm not even going to try to put words into his mouth. I don't want to be seen as making excuses. I'm just telling you, I don't see Marco Rubio as anything other than a legitimate, full-throated conservative. Nobody's pure and nobody is ever free of making mistakes.
I have – I know Senator Rubio... I know these people, I know that Senator Rubio is [in] the Senate, in many ways he agrees with Cruz, but...he's just worn out with the Senate...I heard this from Allen West, when he left the House, the incumbents, all they care about is getting re-elected. You go there, to really make a difference, and you're run into brick wall after brick wall after brick wall. And I don't think Rubio wants to stay there 30 years to break through the wall to get a committee chairmanship or whatever. I don't like this idea that we're all of a sudden going to make Rubio the establishment bad guy, as though Rubio is no different from the McCains, and the Bob Doles, and the Romneys, and the others that have come along and been nominated by the establishment. He just isn't.
http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2016/02/03/watch-rush-limbaugh-call-marco-rubio-legitimate-full-throated-conservative/
Yea, I am way lost on what Rush sees in trump as conservative, there is nothing there. But, Rush is an entertainer first, that is what he gets paid for, and he is cashing in on this trump thing just like the rest of the media. I still listen whenever I can to Rush, but it is mostly background noise now where I catch bits and pieces of what he is saying. To be honest, I stopped being a rabid fan of his when his shows became 30 minute commercials for his own products.
Quote from: kit saginaw on February 04, 2016, 09:10:05 PM
Here...
http://wn.com/ted_cruz_and_rush_limbaugh_discuss_the_washingtoncartel_and_the_corrupt_exim_bank_deal
also available on Cruz's own site
I'll say it for the third time... Rush has only hosted 2 live interviews in the last decade... the other was Henry Kissinger.
Even last week, Rush was slamming Iowa and their ethanol-subsidies crap. Where's the anti-conservative rhetoric?
Is Trump a lib or not?
Is Rubio an Establishment hack or a Conservative?
Is there a Constitutional Conservative running in this race or not?
If you answer yes to those, case closed, otherwise you're lying to yourself as much as Rush is.
Quote from: s3779m on February 05, 2016, 02:29:51 AM
Yea, I am way lost on what Rush sees in trump as conservative, there is nothing there. But, Rush is an entertainer first, that is what he gets paid for, and he is cashing in on this trump thing just like the rest of the media. I still listen whenever I can to Rush, but it is mostly background noise now where I catch bits and pieces of what he is saying. To be honest, I stopped being a rabid fan of his when his shows became 30 minute commercials for his own products.
I was never a rabid fan, but he always had keen insight as well as inside information that would expose liberal hypocrisy in unique ways.
And even though he never really bashed the GOP'e, he always touted Conservatives, and now that we finally have the guy running we've been demanding for a decade, Rush becomes a Trump water boy?
Yeah, entertainer may be a bit too gratuitous. :biggrin:
So in the span of less than two weeks, Rush is suddenly not conservative enough and Hannity suddenly isn't conservative enough. That's ridiculous. The next TEA-meeting here is on the 8th. I guarantee there'll be zero outrage about the occasional 'glowing comments' those two have made about whomever.
Quote from: kit saginaw on February 05, 2016, 08:41:03 AM
So in the span of less than two weeks, Rush is suddenly not conservative enough and Hannity suddenly isn't conservative enough. That's ridiculous. The next TEA-meeting here is on the 8th. I guarantee there'll be zero outrage about the occasional 'glowing comments' those two have made about whomever.
O'Reilly reads some of his emails at the end of his show each night. He's always accused of being in the tank for one candidate or another. :wink:
Limbaugh has talent on loan from God! Everyone else is just jealous.
I've been listening to Rush since 1999, when I was 14 years old. He is the reason I learned to embrace fiscal conservatism. Rush is a Conservative Icon. Just because he doesn't think Cruz is the Messiah and Rubio the Devil, it doesn't make Rush any less of a paragon of conservative virtues.
Quote from: Skeptic on February 05, 2016, 09:10:52 AM
Limbaugh has talent on loan from God! Everyone else is just jealous.
I've been listening to Rush since 1999, when I was 14 years old. He is the reason I learned to embrace fiscal conservatism. Rush is a Conservative Icon. Just because he doesn't think Cruz is the Messiah and Rubio the Devil, it doesn't make Rush any less of a paragon of conservative virtues.
Your just a young pup yet. I have grandkids older then you. :biggrin:
Quote from: kit saginaw on February 05, 2016, 08:41:03 AM
So in the span of less than two weeks, Rush is suddenly not conservative enough and Hannity suddenly isn't conservative enough. That's ridiculous. The next TEA-meeting here is on the 8th. I guarantee there'll be zero outrage about the occasional 'glowing comments' those two have made about whomever.
No, since he started carrying water for a lib and now a RINO.
Oh and as for Hannity, he's always been a RINO. Jeeeez Kit, wake up!
Quote from: Skeptic on February 05, 2016, 09:10:52 AM
Limbaugh has talent on loan from God! Everyone else is just jealous.
I've been listening to Rush since 1999, when I was 14 years old. He is the reason I learned to embrace fiscal conservatism. Rush is a Conservative Icon. Just because he doesn't think Cruz is the Messiah and Rubio the Devil, it doesn't make Rush any less of a paragon of conservative virtues.
This explains so much about your grasp on current politics.
Quote from: Solar on February 05, 2016, 12:17:18 PM
No, since he started carrying water for a lib and now a RINO.
Oh and as for Hannity, he's always been a RINO. Jeeeez Kit, wake up!
I've
always suspected that, if Rush and Sean were fully conservative,
the Establishment wouldn't let them on the air.
When the San Jose Mercury News published their investigative report
about the CIA being the primary drug cartel in America,
Rush dismissed it as "conspiracy theory."
Never mind George H W Bush and Bill Clinton's personal involvement in all that.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Quote from: Solar on February 04, 2016, 06:52:38 AM
As I said before, I've listened to Rush since long before he went national, I even credit Rush for developing my critical thinking skills.
But over the years he never really challenged the Establishments statusquo up until recently and it was refreshing, but the minute he started backing Trump, his values were in question, but now he's actually trying to convince Conservatives that Rubio isn't Establishment.
But what's really sad here, is Rush recognizes Cruz as the standard bearer of Conservatism in comparing Rubio to Cruz, yet he still pushes the lying Rubio as a Conservative.
Rush, Conservatives don't lie to their constituency claiming Conservative principle, then stab them in the back.
I'm afraid Rush may have just lost half his loyal audience, I know I no longer tune in.
I don't like this idea that Marco Rubio is all of a sudden being labeled as an establishment candidate. I know that Rubio's got the baggage of that 'gang of eight' bill. And I know that in many people's minds, he's got the baggage of wanting to grant the current number of illegals citizenship. I understand that. But I'm here to – Marco Rubio is no moderate Republican centrist. I'm not – I could sit here like anybody else could and try to make explanations for you of why he did the gang of eight. But I'm not even going to try to put words into his mouth. I don't want to be seen as making excuses. I'm just telling you, I don't see Marco Rubio as anything other than a legitimate, full-throated conservative. Nobody's pure and nobody is ever free of making mistakes.
I have – I know Senator Rubio... I know these people, I know that Senator Rubio is [in] the Senate, in many ways he agrees with Cruz, but...he's just worn out with the Senate...I heard this from Allen West, when he left the House, the incumbents, all they care about is getting re-elected. You go there, to really make a difference, and you're run into brick wall after brick wall after brick wall. And I don't think Rubio wants to stay there 30 years to break through the wall to get a committee chairmanship or whatever. I don't like this idea that we're all of a sudden going to make Rubio the establishment bad guy, as though Rubio is no different from the McCains, and the Bob Doles, and the Romneys, and the others that have come along and been nominated by the establishment. He just isn't.
http://www.redstate.com/dan_mclaughlin/2016/02/03/watch-rush-limbaugh-call-marco-rubio-legitimate-full-throated-conservative/
I heard that broadcast Solar. I could have thrown my radio out the door when he started in telling the audience how much of a conservative Rubio is. To top it off, Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy have both endorsed Rubio. How do these people sleep at night, knowing they would like to see this country slide on down and off the chart? Rush really messed up with this one indeed.
Quote from: keyboarder on February 05, 2016, 11:36:48 PM
I heard that broadcast Solar. I could have thrown my radio out the door when he started in telling the audience how much of a conservative Rubio is. To top it off, Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy have both endorsed Rubio. How do these people sleep at night, knowing they would like to see this country slide on down and off the chart? Rush really messed up with this one indeed.
That's just it Key, turds do not come with a hook in which one can handle them safely, nor a clean end is which one can hold it.
Rush not only stepped in it, but he owns that turd for trying to polish it and make it acceptable to the base Right.
Thirty years on the radio, and this is the one moment Conservatives will never forget, or forgive, unless they gullible idiots.
Quote from: je_freedom on February 05, 2016, 07:42:00 PM
I've always suspected that, if Rush and Sean were fully conservative,
the Establishment wouldn't let them on the air.
When the San Jose Mercury News published their investigative report
about the CIA being the primary drug cartel in America,
Rush dismissed it as "conspiracy theory."
Never mind George H W Bush and Bill Clinton's personal involvement in all that.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Roger Ailes. That alone should make one suspect by itself.
Quote from: keyboarder on February 05, 2016, 11:36:48 PM
I heard that broadcast Solar. I could have thrown my radio out the door when he started in telling the audience how much of a conservative Rubio is. To top it off, Tim Scott and Trey Gowdy have both endorsed Rubio. How do these people sleep at night, knowing they would like to see this country slide on down and off the chart? Rush really messed up with this one indeed.
Hey Key, long time no see and we're concerned.
So I'll respond to your post since it triggers an email. (You can change it back to not send an email, or I can for you)
Second point being how this thread ties into how Rush is in full obfuscation mode today.
He is covering everything but the rabid elephant in the room holding a full auto machine gun with unlimited ammo.
Yeah, here we have the GOP stealing the convention in support of a lib, and all Rush talks about is the defense of Melania's plagiarism.
Does Rush even have an audience anymore?
The blowhard lost me a decade ago. Same with Hannity. :thumbdown:
Speaking of radio personalities, yup, not much depth there.
Laura Ingram is taking the "shaming" tact, if you signed the pledge, you -MUST- endorse and work to see the GOP candidate elected. Sorry, I'm immune from silly arguments, if you think Trump is the best we can muster, follow him on the campaign trail, be a Trump-groupie. But.....
.... If the guy insults MY WIFE, habitually LIES about me and goes on a year long 'destroy the candidate, mission' - that's a deal breaker. Sorry, without a sincere PUBLIC apology tour - everything negative he said is the "wall" he personally built. Tear it down, Donald, it's your creation, not Ted's. Ted isn't a sorry loser, but it's becoming obvious - you're a poor winner! Now show us a tiny sliver of humanity, and apologize to Ted Cruz. After that, start moving in OUR direction - because our principles are lifetime principals. We're not going to use pogo sticks to jump onto the Trump Train, you extend a hand, put your media savy to use and look at us when you're talking about us.
Rush Limbaugh is busy dissecting the the Trump / Manifort technique - which helps fill in 3 hours of broadcast time, and saves you from actually talking about Trump's flip-flopping on the issues... like he normally would. Ok, we understand Donald Trump is good at playing the MSM, yup, heard it a lot lately, ...and it's BORING! I suppose if one doesn't publically examine the political policy of his friend, Donald, then when Donald starts acting like a "normal irrational liberal", you'll be free from criticism. In the meantime, coast until you run out of steam... which is any day now.
Sean Hannity, Mr. Unbelievable is .... pretty .... much .... 'unbelievable'. Not ever known for any solid position on any conservative issue - he sounds like a classic RINO... impossible to just clearly state what political position he sincerely holds. It's like misplacing your favorite Red Stapler, he's relentless in his quest to find the real conservative Sean Hannity. When he says, "I don't know how some people can sleep at night..." I like to say, 'tell us, Sean, how do you sleep at night...?' I gotta admit, Hannity has never been an entertainer.
Michael Savage likes to be known as the guy who had something to do with elevating Donald Trump. If I called his show, "aaahem... Dr. Savage, what's your take on Trump seemingly abandoning your program for Hannity, Limbaugh, etc? Has Donald Trump decided coming on your program might poison his chances of being nominated? Don't you think he OWES you for all the promotion - and now he's forsaken you?"
Yes, I'd bait the blow-hard and let him blow up on the air in some uncontrolled rant about how smart he is, and how stupid everyone else is.... sorry, it'd be kinda hard to resist tweeking his ego, a little push over the edge.
sigh....
Quote from: Hoofer on July 20, 2016, 07:36:40 PM
Speaking of radio personalities, yup, not much depth there.
Laura Ingram is taking the "shaming" tact, if you signed the pledge, you -MUST- endorse and work to see the GOP candidate elected. Sorry, I'm immune from silly arguments, if you think Trump is the best we can muster, follow him on the campaign trail, be a Trump-groupie. But.....
.... If the guy insults MY WIFE, habitually LIES about me and goes on a year long 'destroy the candidate, mission' - that's a deal breaker. Sorry, without a sincere PUBLIC apology tour - everything negative he said is the "wall" he personally built. Tear it down, Donald, it's your creation, not Ted's. Ted isn't a sorry loser, but it's becoming obvious - you're a poor winner! Now show us a tiny sliver of humanity, and apologize to Ted Cruz. After that, start moving in OUR direction - because our principles are lifetime principals. We're not going to use pogo sticks to jump onto the Trump Train, you extend a hand, put your media savy to use and look at us when you're talking about us.
Rush Limbaugh is busy dissecting the the Trump / Manifort technique - which helps fill in 3 hours of broadcast time, and saves you from actually talking about Trump's flip-flopping on the issues... like he normally would. Ok, we understand Donald Trump is good at playing the MSM, yup, heard it a lot lately, ...and it's BORING! I suppose if one doesn't publically examine the political policy of his friend, Donald, then when Donald starts acting like a "normal irrational liberal", you'll be free from criticism. In the meantime, coast until you run out of steam... which is any day now.
Sean Hannity, Mr. Unbelievable is .... pretty .... much .... 'unbelievable'. Not ever known for any solid position on any conservative issue - he sounds like a classic RINO... impossible to just clearly state what political position he sincerely holds. It's like misplacing your favorite Red Stapler, he's relentless in his quest to find the real conservative Sean Hannity. When he says, "I don't know how some people can sleep at night..." I like to say, 'tell us, Sean, how do you sleep at night...?' I gotta admit, Hannity has never been an entertainer.
Michael Savage likes to be known as the guy who had something to do with elevating Donald Trump. If I called his show, "aaahem... Dr. Savage, what's your take on Trump seemingly abandoning your program for Hannity, Limbaugh, etc? Has Donald Trump decided coming on your program might poison his chances of being nominated? Don't you think he OWES you for all the promotion - and now he's forsaken you?"
Yes, I'd bait the blow-hard and let him blow up on the air in some uncontrolled rant about how smart he is, and how stupid everyone else is.... sorry, it'd be kinda hard to resist tweeking his ego, a little push over the edge.
sigh....
It must be tough now, with Ailes getting the boot over his Establishment connection and damaging the FOX product, Rush selling his soul, Hannity's always been a RINO sellout, but Savage always claiming "Liberalism a brain disorder", then doing exactly what he railed against,. and endorsed a NY Lib.
Yes, it must be tough being on the SS Titanic/GOP and beating women and children for their place on the lifeboats, yeah real men of character, every one of those traitorous bastards deserve what the future holds for them, while trailing off into obscurity.
Quote from: Solar on July 20, 2016, 07:56:06 PM
It must be tough now, with Ailes getting the boot over his Establishment connection and damaging the FOX product, Rush selling his soul, Hannity's always been a RINO sellout, but Savage always claiming "Liberalism a brain disorder", then doing exactly what he railed against,. and endorsed a NY Lib.
Yes, it must be tough being on the SS Titanic/GOP and beating women and children for their place on the lifeboats, yeah real men of character, every one of those traitorous bastards deserve what the future holds for them, while trailing off into obscurity.
Maybe I've got Roger Ailes mixed up with someone else... isn't he the guy both Rush and Sean always had high praise for?
Quote from: Hoofer on July 20, 2016, 07:58:52 PM
Maybe I've got Roger Ailes mixed up with someone else... isn't he the guy both Rush and Sean always had high praise for?
Yes, Ailes made both of them, if not for Ailes, Rush would still be in Sacramento on KFBK broadcasting to the central valley.
Ailes is the ultimate RINO, a Karl Rove on super steroids, only a behind the scene manipulator out of the lime light.
It was he that made the deal with Murdoch to make FOX the Establishment Infomercial headquarters, and they could still be pulling the wool over people's eyes to date, had it not been for the likes of Boner and the Con.
Then to add insult to injury, made the case for the Omnibus Bill where they gave the Marxists everything they demanded and more, only to to turn right around and keep Cruz in the dark by ignoring him on FOX news, then to foolishly back Jeb for the next couple of months, and a succession of Establishment sellouts till finally milking Rubio to death, just long enough to suck delegates off of Cruz in support of Trump.
After all is said and done, Murdoch made a business decision and booted the Establishments middle man, Ailes.
Whether or not Murdoch continues their arrangement is yet to be seen, but whatever he does, it will be done in total secrecy.
But if he keeps the connection, it'll be obvious by the end of the month.
Quote from: kit saginaw on February 05, 2016, 08:41:03 AM
So in the span of less than two weeks, Rush is suddenly not conservative enough and Hannity suddenly isn't conservative enough. That's ridiculous. The next TEA-meeting here is on the 8th. I guarantee there'll be zero outrage about the occasional 'glowing comments' those two have made about whomever.
No conservative that is being true to his/her values and convictions can support Trump...period.
Quote from: Solar on February 05, 2016, 12:17:18 PM
No, since he started carrying water for a lib and now a RINO.
Oh and as for Hannity, he's always been a RINO. Jeeeez Kit, wake up!
And he is getting worse. I listened today while I was stuck in traffic, shouldn't have. Ended up listening to that crap that is called country now. I do miss a good talk show but rush has drank till he was drunk on the koolaid. Makes me wonder, what does trump have on rush? or did I miss judge rush all these years?
Quote from: s3779m on July 21, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
And he is getting worse. I listened today while I was stuck in traffic, shouldn't have. Ended up listening to that crap that is called country now. I do miss a good talk show but rush has drank till he was drunk on the koolaid. Makes me wonder, what does trump have on rush? or did I miss judge rush all these years?
I think Rush was attempting to play both sides, in that he can appease the Establishment by keeping them viable in spite of all the shit they pulled, simply by distracting the base with Dim scandals.
Sure, get the base worked up over some boneheaded remark by a socialist, while the GOP cut another deal with the Marxists.
I believe after all those years listening to Rush, I finally see it for what it was, an infomercial designed to make the Establishment our only option.
Ailes made Nixon, Ailes is akin to the Devil appearing every photograph at every catastrophe since photography was invented, there was Ailes in the background pulling the strings.
Like selling ones soul to the devil, Rush signed his away with Ailes.
It all makes sense now, its why Rush never claimed anything beyond entertainer status, I believe now in hindsight he was telling his audience the truth, which is why he finally came clean and told us, he never claimed to be a Conservative.
I believe Ailes is very possibly the biggest enemy to freedom our Nation has ever witnessed.
We may be thanking the lib Murdoch for kicking his ass to the curb.
Quote from: Double D on July 21, 2016, 11:04:53 AM
No conservative that is being true to his/her values and convictions can support Trump...period.
True "dat".
Quote from: s3779m on July 21, 2016, 11:31:02 AM
And he is getting worse. I listened today while I was stuck in traffic, shouldn't have. Ended up listening to that crap that is called country now. I do miss a good talk show but rush has drank till he was drunk on the koolaid. Makes me wonder, what does trump have on rush? or did I miss judge rush all these years?
The are close personal friends. Which presents all kinds of problems. Rush has spoken of Ted Cruz in glowing terms, even used in a great commercial for Ted Cruz - he admires Ted. But, he's a personal friend of Donald Trump... and rich people like to rub shoulders with rich people, even if they are uncouth slobs, child molesters, and womanizers. The love of money, or those who have much, can make good people do terrible things. I think things would be a bit different on Rush's show, if Donald wasn't a candidate. If Donald wins the general election, and turns full blown liberal - it wouldn't suprise me if Rush retired rather than take on his personal friend.
Absolutely disgusting. Beck was the only 'conservative' commentator who spoke positively about Cruz's speech last night. Hannity and Limbaugh are about as conservative as their buddy Trump. In addition to being a huge Cruz supporter, I've been a Beck fan for quite sometime. Both men have admirable attributes; honor and integrity!