Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:23:15 AM
How many abortion women have you killed?

You mean pre-meditated murderers?  Lots....

They get their due process and their peers decide their fate...unlike baby humans, who have no due process under fascist democrats....

Do we have the right, as people who have chosen freedom for themselves, to impose our opinion on women who find themselves in undesirable circumstances?

As I understand it, this is precisely what free people differ from socialists - free will within the framework of the Constitution?

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:49:29 AM
Do we have the right, as people who have chosen freedom for themselves, to impose our opinion on women who find themselves in undesirable circumstances?

As I understand it, this is precisely what free people differ from socialists - free will within the framework of the Constitution?

Freedom is a right of all humans....including babies....irrespective of the Constitution.

However, no one is free from the consequences of their decisions....no one, including a pregnant woman, has the right to force their opinions onto others.....

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 11:49:29 AM
Do we have the right, as people who have chosen freedom for themselves, to impose our opinion on women who find themselves in undesirable circumstances?

As I understand it, this is precisely what free people differ from socialists - free will within the framework of the Constitution?

There's a part of the Constitution you're ignoring. The Right to Life, Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness. No one has the Right to take life, but more importantly, no one has the Right to taxpayer dollars to pay for their need to murder.

Now do you get it?

The U.S. Constitution does not supersede the Ten Commandments....God and then Country.
#6 Thou shalt not kill.
The sanctity of life especially of an unborn baby supersedes politics and opinion.

Quote from: yrunvs on December 20, 2020, 12:11:10 PM
The U.S. Constitution does not supersede the Ten Commandments....God and then Country.
#6 Thou shalt not kill.
The sanctity of life especially of an unborn baby supersedes politics and opinion.

Your point? Our laws of the Constitution is based on Judeo Christian values.

Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 11:55:54 AM
Freedom is a right of all humans....including babies....irrespective of the Constitution.

However, no one is free from the consequences of their decisions....no one, including a pregnant woman, has the right to force their opinions onto others.....

100% agreed

Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 12:20:07 PM
Your point? Our laws of the Constitution is based on Judeo Christian values.

What would you know of "christian values"? You support a lying, cowardly, adulterous, thief.

www.reclaimingjesus.org

"THEREFORE, WE REJECT the resurgence of white nationalism and racism in our nation on many fronts, including the highest levels of political leadership. We, as followers of Jesus, must clearly reject the use of racial bigotry for political gain that we have seen. In the face of such bigotry, silence is complicity. In particular, we reject white supremacy and commit ourselves to help dismantle the systems and structures that perpetuate white preference and advantage. Further, any doctrines or political strategies that use racist resentments, fears, or language must be named as public sin—one that goes back to the foundation of our nation and lingers on. Racial bigotry must be antithetical for those belonging to the body of Christ, because it denies the truth of the gospel we profess."


"THEREFORE, WE REJECT the language and policies of political leaders who would debase and abandon the most vulnerable children of God. We strongly deplore the growing attacks on immigrants and refugees, who are being made into cultural and political targets, and we need to remind our churches that God makes the treatment of the "strangers" among us a test of faith (Leviticus 19:33-34). We won't accept the neglect of the well-being of low-income families and children, and we will resist repeated attempts to deny health care to those who most need it. We confess our growing national sin of putting the rich over the poor. We reject the immoral logic of cutting services and programs for the poor while cutting taxes for the rich. Budgets are moral documents. We commit ourselves to opposing and reversing those policies and finding solutions that reflect the wisdom of people from different political parties and philosophies to seek the common good. Protecting the poor is a central commitment of Christian discipleship, to which 2,000 verses in the Bible attest."

Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 02:03:45 PM
What would you know of "christian values"? You support a lying, cowardly, adulterous, thief.

www.reclaimingjesus.org

Um...I don't think he voted for your Jim Crow Joe...

Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 12:20:07 PM
Your point? Our laws of the Constitution is based on Judeo Christian values.

Judeo Christian values, it is an artificial construction. Rather, we can talk about Judeo-Muslim values, since Islam is much closer to the Judean faith (although much simpler) than Christianity, which denies the main concept of the Judean religion, unquestioning Monotheism.

According to Christian dogma, Jesus of Nazareth was the son of God, later taken to heaven.

But there were a dime a dozen of such demi-gods, demi-humans in the Elin tradition.

And most of them were eventually taken to heaven and were joined to the host of the gods.

It was with this that Judaism did not agree, claiming that God is One.

Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 02:05:22 PM
Um...I don't think he voted for your Jim Crow Joe...

He still thinks Robert Byrd was a traitor to the cause.

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 02:08:51 PM
Judeo Christian values, it is an artificial construction. Rather, we can talk about Judeo-Muslim values, since Islam is much closer to the Judean faith (although much simpler) than Christianity, which denies the main concept of the Judean religion, unquestioning Monotheism.



But there were a dime a dozen of such demi-gods, demi-humans in the Elin tradition.

And most of them were eventually taken to heaven and were joined to the host of the gods.

apparently i missed that in history class.   Or religion class...  got a link for that?  I won't hold my breath.

Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 02:05:22 PM
Um...I don't think he voted for your Jim Crow Joe...

He did vote for one that does not believe in Christ, or Christian values like not bearing false witness.

And BTW, since Biden did apologize for his vote in 1994, what other source do liars like you have for your contention that Biden supports Jim Crow laws? We do know that every Republican State has tried to enforce them.

Quote from: Old Trapper on December 20, 2020, 02:11:51 PM
He did vote for one that does not believe in Christ, or Christian values like not bearing false witness.

And BTW, since Biden did apologize for his vote in 1994, what other source do liars like you have for your contention that Biden supports Jim Crow laws? We do know that every Republican State has tried to enforce them.

No, I'm 100% sure he didn't vote for your China Joe.....

Quote from: Calypso Jones on December 20, 2020, 02:11:01 PM
apparently i missed that in history class.   Or religion class...  got a link for that?  I won't hold my breath.

Are you unfamiliar with the concept of dem-gods in Greek history?

Hercules was the son of a god (Zeus) and a mortal woman. At the end of his life, he went to the fire (self-sacrifice) and was numbered among the gods


Tell me who is this story written about?

God seduces his mother in the form of a bird. Nevertheless, his earthly father recognizes him as his son. In early childhood, he has to endure many trials. During his earthly life, he performs many miracles. At the end of his life, he sacrifices himself and becomes a god.