The U .S. Need Not be Divided Forever-The Case for Blood and Iron

Started by Dayton3, December 16, 2020, 02:48:54 PM

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Owebo

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 20, 2020, 05:26:54 AM
And this poster is brainwashing our youth.

He's but another soi boi left wing loon armed with an on-line degree in worthlessness ....

Dayton3

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 20, 2020, 05:54:23 AM
My friend you are not fooling thinking folks. Maybe a portion of the Constitution may not be applied today it is part of a wonderful document. To remove parts of it would be the "camel's nose under the tent". It would open the door to removing parts leftists desire to remove, like the 2nd amendment.

I've said absolutely nothing about removing parts of the U.S. Constitution.   I simply said the  3rd and 7th Amendments were irrelevant.

Dayton3

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 20, 2020, 05:56:52 AM
Thats It? Thats the best you can do? Do you even understand why the 3rd exists?  It is so the GOVT Cannot force you to support US troops in your home....meaning they have access to not only your home but your resources just as the American colonists who were FORCED to house the British officers experienced,

That's what I said.

Solar

Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 05:43:06 AM
About the only scenario I can come up with would be when National Guard troops are deployed to a disaster area and need emergency lodging.  Since a disaster area is not a "time of war" they still can't simply take room and board from civilians.    But even these instances would be extremely rare at worst.
Just think if the Marxists were to gain power. Do you think for one second they wouldn't trample the Third?
At this point citizens would be in their Right to apply the 2nd across the land! In turn, replacing the govt.
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Quote from: Dayton3 on December 20, 2020, 07:13:03 AM
I've said absolutely nothing about removing parts of the U.S. Constitution.   I simply said the  3rd and 7th Amendments were irrelevant.
you also said the constitution was  "very vaguely" written. Where?

Billy's bayonet

Quote from: Solar on December 20, 2020, 07:31:54 AM
Just think if the Marxists were to gain power. Do you think for one second they wouldn't trample the Third?
At this point citizens would be in their Right to apply the 2nd across the land! In turn, replacing the govt.

Yeah I can see some Egomanical Constitutional Rapist like Witmer ordering the National guard billeted in your home over WU-Flu, making sure you stay 6 feet apart and wear a mask
Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

Solar

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 20, 2020, 08:24:27 AM
Yeah I can see some Egomanical Constitutional Rapist like Witmer ordering the National guard billeted in your home over WU-Flu, making sure you stay 6 feet apart and wear a mask
BINGO!!!!
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Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 19, 2020, 08:36:12 PM
"We need a purge like they did in Russia"  (c)  Pop Daddy



This is a mistake, unfortunately, there was no cleansing of communism in Russia. There weren't, so was the trial of the Communist Party, which killed millions of people.

It was in Germany, after 1945, that the National Socialist Labor Party of Germany was banned, and some of its leaders were hanged by the neck.

I would not like to see what happened in Russia, China or Germany  again.  The sentiment being something sooner or later will have to done to put the country back on conservative values.  As we can see from our lib buddy Dayton3, if he really is a teacher, could be with his line of thinking when you look at the kids being pushed through the system, the purge was one way some others have tried to handle problems.

While honest hard working men and women get up and go to work each day, paying taxes that in turn go to pay leftist/marxist propagandists who have control of our children, our future.  And to make matters worse the marxist want our kids as soon as they are weaned.  Pre-school, day care, after school activities.  Universal child care, from cradle to grave.  You might recall the story of Julia that the muslim trotted out a few years back.

How bout we change the action from purge to a good old fashioned ass beating from a Dutch Uncle until the marxist understand we are done with them?  And, no more govt. back student loans, no tenure.  It's a win/win, get the marxist purged from teaching.  No social engineering.  Back to the 3 R's.  A high school diploma would mean being fluent in English, and no more govt. funded "English as a second language" crap.  Starting in first grade you speak English.  Saved the best for last, kids must be able to identify the states on a map, name the capitols and have a general knowledge of the Constitution, Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence.  Those courses will keep the marxist teachers too busy to indoctrinate our children, hopefully.

Yuriy the Loader

Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 20, 2020, 08:50:22 AM
I would not like to see what happened in Russia, China or Germany  again.  The sentiment being something sooner or later will have to done to put the country back on conservative values.  As we can see from our lib buddy Dayton3, if he really is a teacher, could be with his line of thinking when you look at the kids being pushed through the system, the purge was one way some others have tried to handle problems.

While honest hard working men and women get up and go to work each day, paying taxes that in turn go to pay leftist/marxist propagandists who have control of our children, our future.  And to make matters worse the marxist want our kids as soon as they are weaned.  Pre-school, day care, after school activities.  Universal child care, from cradle to grave.  You might recall the story of Julia that the muslim trotted out a few years back.



Thanks to Pop Daddy for the detailed answer, but questions still remain.

For example, what exactly is Conservatism.

For example, I consider myself a conservative, while I have a special opinion about abortion, gay marriage and religion.

I support the possibility of women to have abortions up to 3 months of pregnancy without explanation, and up to 6 months for medical reasons.

I support the possibility of homosexuals and lesbians to form permanent legal family units.

I support the ability of gays and lesbians to adopt children.

I support the right of all people to divorce.

I support the possibility of all people to have or not to have religious views.

But all of the above, should be within the framework of the Constitution.

Now the question is, how many members of the Forum can consider me a conservative?

Solar

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 09:27:44 AM
Thanks to Pop Daddy for the detailed answer, but questions still remain.

For example, what exactly is Conservatism.

For example, I consider myself a conservative, while I have a special opinion about abortion, gay marriage and religion.

I support the possibility of women to have abortions up to 3 months of pregnancy without explanation, and up to 6 months for medical reasons.

I support the possibility of homosexuals and lesbians to form permanent legal family units.

I support the ability of gays and lesbians to adopt children.

I support the right of all people to divorce.

I support the possibility of all people to have or not to have religious views.

But all of the above, should be within the framework of the Constitution.

Now the question is, how many members of the Forum can consider me a conservative?
Consider it in this context.

https://conservativehardliner.com/what-is-conservatism
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Owebo

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 09:27:44 AM
Thanks to Pop Daddy for the detailed answer, but questions still remain.

For example, what exactly is Conservatism.

For example, I consider myself a conservative, while I have a special opinion about abortion, gay marriage and religion.

I support the possibility of women to have abortions up to 3 months of pregnancy without explanation, and up to 6 months for medical reasons.

I support the possibility of homosexuals and lesbians to form permanent legal family units.

I support the ability of gays and lesbians to adopt children.

I support the right of all people to divorce.

I support the possibility of all people to have or not to have religious views.

But all of the above, should be within the framework of the Constitution.

Now the question is, how many members of the Forum can consider me a conservative?

Unlike liberalism, Conservatism is not an ideology, it is a way of life centered on three tenets: life, liberty and the pursuit of property...

Your views on abortion are incompatible with that way of life....as life is a human right, of all humans, everywhere....

Yuriy the Loader

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Quote from: Owebo on December 20, 2020, 10:05:20 AM
Your views on abortion are incompatible with that way of life....as life is a human right, of all humans, everywhere....

Yes I know. But when abortion was banned in Ireland, thousands of women died from illegal abortions. But these women are also humans life.

When you think about something, always try to think about it from all sides.

walkstall

Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 20, 2020, 10:29:27 AM
Yes I know. But when abortion was banned in Ireland, thousands of women died from illegal abortions. But these women are also humans life.

When you think about something, always try to think about it from all sides.


Even after looking at all sides does not make it right.
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Dayton3

Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 20, 2020, 08:50:22 AM
I would not like to see what happened in Russia, China or Germany  again.  The sentiment being something sooner or later will have to done to put the country back on conservative values.  As we can see from our lib buddy Dayton3,

I'm not a liberal by any stretch of the definition you idiot.