And is having a colossal meltdown over Trump suing for peace with Russia.
The left just can't get a break when it comes to Trump, they kneejerk react to his every move, and this is one of those times when historians in a few years will look back on our media and refer to it as "The Dark Ages' of political assault on our Republic and president.
Check out this short video, their reaction to peace is to insult the President and all he's achieved, be it NK or S/A, they see their world crashing down around them.
So what is the alternative to peace, is that what they want, War?
Check it out, amazing.
https://www.mrctv.org/embed/531524
I think one of the treads or post here at CPF stated it best...Trump canceled WW lll and the democrats are freaking the hell out.
My opinion ... the Left is grabbing for anything to try and impeach Trump - case in point is Trump's meeting with Putin. They will do anything to try and thwart his SCOTUS appointment. Anything.
Quote from: Bronx on July 17, 2018, 05:47:57 AM
I think one of the treads or post here at CPF stated it best...Trump canceled WW lll and the democrats are freaking the hell out.
This also explains their support for the leftist McStain, like them, he too is a warmonger.
I love how Trump, once again brings out the best in Marxists. Again, he steals the narrative and they meltdown. :lol:
All these morons are so busy hating on Trump they missed the Master in Action. As I've pointed out previously, Trump threatened Mr KGB with economic DISASTER when he scolded our "allies" in Europe over Russian, Not American oil/LNG, hinting that American prices could be more "competative". Taking the European market away from Vlad would be indeed a master stroke that would create even MORE US Jobs, More tax Revenue and a better US Economy while keeping the Russians in line.
NO wonder Putin said he COOPERATE WITH AMERICN INVESTIGATORS OVER RUSSIAN HACKING.....He'd hand Trump the Keys to Kiev to keep his pipeline into Germany flowing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: topside on July 17, 2018, 05:54:29 AM
My opinion ... the Left is grabbing for anything to try and impeach Trump - case in point is Trump's meeting with Putin. They will do anything to try and thwart his SCOTUS appointment. Anything.
the left sees the end coming, Trump is speeding it up.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 17, 2018, 06:32:08 AM
All these morons are so busy hating on Trump they missed the Master in Action. As I've pointed out previously, Trump threatened Mr KGB with economic DISASTER when he scolded our "allies" in Europe over Russian, Not American oil/LNG, hinting that American prices could be more "competative". Taking the European market away from Vlad would be indeed a master stroke that would create even MORE US Jobs, More tax Revenue and a better US Economy while keeping the Russians in line.
NO wonder Putin said he COOPERATE WITH AMERICN INVESTIGATORS OVER RUSSIAN HACKING.....He'd hand Trump the Keys to Kiev to keep his pipeline into Germany flowing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yep, Trump played the EU, Putin and the LSM like one plays marbles, knocking all of them out of the ring leaving them irrelevant.
The man didn't lie when he said he was a deal maker. Man, he is truly a genius amongst a field of failed idiot leftist leaders. Hell, he really is a genius when it comes to negotiations.
Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 05:08:50 AM
And is having a colossal meltdown over Trump suing for peace with Russia.
I thought the losers sued for peace?
Does peace mean capitulate?
The great walk back begins shortly.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 11:35:30 AM
I thought the losers sued for peace?
Does peace mean capitulate?
The great walk back begins shortly.
It's an expression.
So am I to take it you're just another leftist warmonger? Reagan killed the USSR, Russia is not much more than an alpha male toothless dog that still holds influence in the pack.
Trump and Putin both know this, so why continue warring with a country you can ally with?
I wrote a long post about Putin's predicament of building your entire economy on oil and NG, we sit on the biggest reserves in the world, both Leaders know this, Trump made it more than clear we could bleed him dry.
So is it really capitulation when you force your enemy to the bargaining table to comply with your demands?
I don't think so.
Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 11:58:46 AM
So is it really capitulation when you force your enemy to the bargaining table to comply with your demands?
They're laughing at us, then to top it off a completely disingenuous prepared statement that had all the credibility of a five year old saying 'I didn't do it'.
I'm embarrassed 😳.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 12:48:32 PM
They're laughing at us, then to top it off a completely disingenuous prepared statement that had all the credibility of a five year old saying 'I didn't do it'.
I'm embarrassed 😳.
Who's laughing? Think about it, Trump brings peace around the globe and people are laughing?
But I get it, you actually take the leftist media opinions seriously, as if they have an inkling of credibility.
You really need to break out of that bubble you dwell in because before you know it, your world is about to come crashing down.
Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 01:23:53 PM
Who's laughing? Think about it, Trump brings peace around the globe and people are laughing?
But I get it, you actually take the leftist media opinions seriously, as if they have an inkling of credibility.
You really need to break out of that bubble you dwell in because before you know it, your world is about to come crashing down.
What peace? What's changed? Is this another "I've solved it he North Korea thing and everyone should sleep well tonight"?
Trump's own party is condemning him. Nobody is left supporting this cluster*uck but Hainnity, Carlson and you guys.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 01:39:23 PM
What peace? What's changed? Is this another "I've solved it he North Korea thing and everyone should sleep well tonight"?
Start with S/A and the Prince jailing all his cousins for corruption, and yes, if not for Trump, this change would have never been possible.
Israel is another that now has the full backing of S/A Jordan, Russia etc, again, all because of Trump, ISIS, the monster Obozo claimed to be fighting, Trump ends their bloody run.
NK is another victory, but you refuse to accept positive changes are occurring and why is that? I know the answer, I just wondered if you had taken a moment to reflect.
QuoteTrump's own party is condemning him. Nobody is left supporting this cluster*uck but Hainnity, Carlson and you guys.
Seriously, have you not been reading posts here? The GOP is the Conservatives enemy!
Funny, more than half the country supports Trump, but you believe the media, are you really that fuckin blind to reality?
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 01:39:23 PM
What peace? What's changed? Is this another "I've solved it he North Korea thing and everyone should sleep well tonight"?
Trump's own party is condemning him. Nobody is left supporting this cluster*uck but Hainnity, Carlson and you guys.
Why is he still pulling people in by the 1000"s at rallies? And these are real people not your straw-men.
Do you not think his scotus nominee will be confirmed? Don't tell me you are seeing a blue wave coming?
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 11:35:30 AM
I thought the losers sued for peace?
Does peace mean capitulate?
The great walk back begins shortly.
Capitulate WHAT? Do you understand that Trump can CRUSH the Russians economically by flooding Europe with Cheap AMERICAN OIL and LNG? The Russian ecinomy isn't doing allthat great to begin with. But Do you understand that by taking away Putin's Pipeline the Russian Economy TANKS? Vicariously, the Iranian scum dogs crash and burn as well, If they can't sell their oil and WE start Eating
THEIR LUNCH?????
DO you understand what Trump actually said to Europe? Do you understand it was a THREAT TO PUTIN, NOT NATO? Furthermore why do you think the MSM isn't picking up on that and why do you think they are all going ballistic and claiming Trump is now Putins Lap dog? BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF WHAT MAY HAPPEN should Trump act on his threats to steal away the Eurpean Oil market.
Peace through Strength, ECONOMIC and MILITARY
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 17, 2018, 07:02:36 PM
Capitulate WHAT? Do you understand that Trump can CRUSH the Russians economically by flooding Europe with Cheap AMERICAN OIL and LNG? The Russian ecinomy isn't doing allthat great to begin with. But Do you understand that by taking away Putin's Pipeline the Russian Economy TANKS? Vicariously, the Iranian scum dogs crash and burn as well, If they can't sell their oil and WE start Eating THEIR LUNCH?????
DO you understand what Trump actually said to Europe? Do you understand it was a THREAT TO PUTIN, NOT NATO? Furthermore why do you think the MSM isn't picking up on that and why do you think they are all going ballistic and claiming Trump is now Putins Lap dog? BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE REALITY OF WHAT MAY HAPPEN should Trump act on his threats to steal away the Eurpean Oil market.
Peace through Strength, ECONOMIC and MILITARY
I think he knows it, just doesn't want to admit it, so he watches crap like Morning Joe and runs to the DU for his daily talking points in hopes that no one calls him on his ignorance..
Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 07:06:28 PM
I think he knows it, just doesn't want to admit it, so he watches crap like Morning Joe and runs to the DU for his daily talking points in hopes that no one calls him on his ignorance..
That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.
The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?
No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.
The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?
No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?
And your going to teach us. :rolleyes: :lol:
Quote from: walkstall on July 17, 2018, 07:23:37 PM
And your going to teach us. :rolleyes: :lol:
You're going to teach us.
Hope that helps. ;)
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.
The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?
No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?
Hello! So why should we remain enemies? Why is the left so upset that Trump wants to stop Russian meddling on the world stage and in the M/E?
Trump just stole another Chinese ally. Are you not getting any of this?
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.
The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?
No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?
Russia ISN'T THE PROBLEM, IRAN IS THE PROBLEM, don't you understand that? Anything that America can do to weaken Iran and destroy the alliance between Russia and Iran the better not only for US and Europe but for Iran itself, getting rid of these Lunatic hate America Ayatollahs who want the world to be one under Islam with Iran in control of all Islam. if you can weaken the alliance between Iran and Russia we have a better chance at that. Making Nice with Russia and getting them to distance from Iran is the Key, MORE IMPORTANTLY stop giving Iran Uranium et al to built nukes....Putin knows what Iran is, don't forget he has a hostile Muslim country giving him fits right on his doorstep...those lunatic Chechins. I think he also realizes how Dangerous Iran would be with Nukes, and how those dirt worshipping heathens would turn on him in a heart beat, but Iran is coughing up his oil so in a way he is trapped. Trump is giving him an out.
Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 07:43:21 PM
Hello! So why should we remain enemies? Why is the left so upset that Trump wants to stop Russian meddling on the world stage and in the M/E?
Trump just stole another Chinese ally. Are you not getting any of this?
Overtly screwing with our nations election process is not a friendly act and they are more than likely going to do it again. Where do your loyalties lie? Would you prefer more trumplike candidates elected with Putin's help. That's what you are implying with this laissez-fare attitude of foreign interference
If so, this republic is in serious trouble from within.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 08:06:33 PM
Overtly screwing with our nations election process is not a friendly act and they are more than likely going to do it again. Where do your loyalties lie? Would you prefer more trumplike candidates elected with Putin's help. That's what you are implying with this laissez-fare attitude of foreign interference
If so, this republic is in serious trouble from within.
You are speculating. How do you know who screwed with the electorial process? DNC never allowed a proper investigation of the Server that was allegedly "hacked" and how do you know it was the Russian "Government" authorized by Putin and not a bunch of Russian mobsters looking to extort money. This mysterious 400 K "Doantion by some Shadowy figure that Putin just told the world about in open conference needs some serious follow up on as well. Since we are speculating, my speculation is that the Pakistani Spies (AWAN) did the hack and blamed it on the "RUssians", OR more likely, the "hack" was an inside job pinnedon the "Russians.....
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 17, 2018, 08:35:10 PM
You are speculating. How do you know who screwed with the electorial process? DNC never allowed a proper investigation of the Server that was allegedly "hacked" and how do you know it was the Russian "Government" authorized by Putin and not a bunch of Russian mobsters looking to extort money. This mysterious 400 K "Doantion by some Shadowy figure that Putin just told the world about in open conference needs some serious follow up on as well. Since we are speculating, my speculation is that the Pakistani Spies (AWAN) did the hack and blamed it on the "RUssians", OR more likely, the "hack" was an inside job pinnedon the "Russians.....
Alternative facts.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download
The allegations are unambiguous and damming. Do you think it it went to trial they would be found innocent?
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 08:06:33 PM
Overtly screwing with our nations election process is not a friendly act and they are more than likely going to do it again. Where do your loyalties lie? Would you prefer more trumplike candidates elected with Putin's help. That's what you are implying with this laissez-fare attitude of foreign interference
If so, this republic is in serious trouble from within.
Here's what we do know, Hillary had a private server and two Iranian spies as IT techs running the entire thing. So the real question is, was it actually hacked, or did they give the Iranians the passcode who turned it over to a handful of Russians who simply trapesed throughout their entire system?
Let's not forget, Hillary broke the law by using this server as well as Obozo who knew it was not an authorized Govt server.
Now, do you see why we have these laws in place?
The Dim party broke the LAW! Don't forget that, they sent top secret information over the web so anyone could have just as easily hacked it, and probably did, think China.
You really need to get your priorities straight as to who is really guilty here!
Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 08:58:24 PM
Here's what we do know, Hillary had a private server and two Iranian spies as IT techs running the entire thing. So the real question is, was it actually hacked, or did they give the Iranians the passcode who turned it over to a handful of Russians who simply trapesed throughout their entire system?
Let's not forget, Hillary broke the law by using this server as well as Obozo who knew it was not an authorized Govt server.
Now, do you see why we have these laws in place?
The Dim party broke the LAW! Don't forget that, they sent top secret information over the web so anyone could have just as easily hacked it, and probably did, think China.
You really need to get your priorities straight as to who is really guilty here!
What does Hillary's server when she was SoS have to do with the 2016 election?
You have any evidence it was hacked by these Iranians? What top secret information?
What's it been six years, four investigations and she hasn't been charged....I don get it.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 09:29:49 PM
What does Hillary's server when she was SoS have to do with the 2016 election?
You have any evidence it was hacked by these Iranians? What top secret information?
What's it been six years, four investigations and she hasn't been charged....I don get it.
A another teaching by the checker playing dude. He don't get it. It's been on the net for over a year.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 09:29:49 PM
What does Hillary's server when she was SoS have to do with the 2016 election?
You have any evidence it was hacked by these Iranians? What top secret information?
What's it been six years, four investigations and she hasn't been charged....I don get it.
All good questions that demand answers
from the DNC. They claimed their server was hacked and were supposed to take their word for it, which server was it?
They refused to allow the FBI to see it, and that's another issue Comey needs to explain and why he didn't insist, instead of simply walking away.
We can only guess it was Iranians because of all the Iranians tied to the party, Valerie Jarrett and now we find out Strozk as well and the fact it was two Iranians that had the key to the servers.
Why aren't you asking your Representative these questions?
Quote from: Solar on July 17, 2018, 09:54:58 PM
All good questions that demand answers from the DNC. They claimed their server was hacked and were supposed to take their word for it, which server was it?
They refused to allow the FBI to see it, and that's another issue Comey needs to explain and why he didn't insist, instead of simply walking away.
We can only guess it was Iranians because of all the Iranians tied to the party, Valerie Jarrett and now we find out Strozk as well and the fact it was two Iranians that had the key to the servers.
Why aren't you asking your Representative these questions?
Read the indictment.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download
Quote from: walkstall on July 17, 2018, 09:45:38 PM
A another teaching by the checker playing dude. He don't get it. It's been on the net for over a year.
???? Why don't you show me where the correlation is between Hillary's server and the 2016 election ???I
After all, it's on the net and therefore must be true.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 10:12:19 PM
???? Why don't you show me where the correlation is between Hillary's server and the 2016 election ???I
After all, it's on the net and therefore must be true.
In time when we get all her server e-mails, that they are looking into again. Hillary is not off the hook yet. She does not have Comey now covering he ass.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 10:09:32 PM
Read the indictment.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download
Well if that wasn't bull shit for a response. I took the time to answer your questions honestly, and you toss a link everyone has already read, as a dodge to respond.
OK, So answer me this, why should we believe any of this shit when none of it can be confirmed by the FBI?
The DNC hired Crowdstrike to look into the hack, WTF? So in truth, we only have a private entity doing all the work, no way to verify if this is correct, because, to date, they have yet to allow the govt to verify their work.
What else are we not being allowed to see, the Hillary server connection, Iranians connection, Hell, we can't even be certain the Russians were real, for all we know, they could have been framed by another group.
Until the govt is allowed to do its own forensic work, I could give a fuck what the DNC released as evidence.
Al this does is raise even more questions than it answered. Oh, and from what I understand, much of what you aren't being told is the emails are filled with racist rants from some of the individuals, but we know that can't be true, only whites are racist.
OK, now it's your turn.
Respond to this link.http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/democrats-a-house-divided/
Quote from: walkstall on July 17, 2018, 10:24:29 PM
In time when we get all her server e-mails, that they are looking into again. Hillary is not off the hook yet. She does not have Comey now covering he ass.
Ok, so you can't provide any linkage.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 18, 2018, 05:26:40 AM
Ok, so you can't provide any linkage.
Time is on my side. The FBI and DOJ has been helping her all along. They are in the hot seat to do the job right this time.
Quote from: Solar on July 18, 2018, 05:05:46 AM
Well if that wasn't bull shit for a response. I took the time to answer your questions honestly, and you toss a link everyone has already read, as a dodge to respond.
OK, So answer me this, why should we believe any of this shit when none of it can be confirmed by the FBI?
The DNC hired Crowdstrike to look into the hack, WTF? So in truth, we only have a private entity doing all the work, no way to verify if this is correct, because, to date, they have yet to allow the govt to verify their work.
What else are we not being allowed to see, the Hillary server connection, Iranians connection, Hell, we can't even be certain the Russians were real, for all we know, they could have been framed by another group.
Until the govt is allowed to do its own forensic work, I could give a fuck what the DNC released as evidence.
Al this does is raise even more questions than it answered. Oh, and from what I understand, much of what you aren't being told is the emails are filled with racist rants from some of the individuals, but we know that can't be true, only whites are racist.
OK, now it's your turn. Respond to this link.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/democrats-a-house-divided/
Response on your thread.
Who do you think did the investigation for the indictments? My goodness, it was the fbi!
Quote from: walkstall on July 18, 2018, 05:30:41 AM
Time is on my side. The FBI and DOJ has been helping her all along. They are in the hot seat to do the job right this time.
You made a declarative statement which I couldn't verify. I asked you for proof and you say:
"Time is on my side. The FBI and DOJ has been helping her all along. They are in the hot seat to do the job right this time." with no proof to that either. Really?
Fact Based Forum where are you?
Quote from: Cadescove on July 18, 2018, 06:01:47 AM
You made a declarative statement which I couldn't verify. I asked you for proof and you say:
"Time is on my side. The FBI and DOJ has been helping her all along. They are in the hot seat to do the job right this time." with no proof to that either. Really?
Fact Based Forum where are you?
Comey tells George Stephanopoulos that he reopened the Hillary Clinton email probe because he thought she would beat Trump and wanted her to be viewed as a 'legitimate' president
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5616741/James-Comey-reopened-Hillary-Clinton-email-probe-beat-Trump.html
Quote from: Solar on July 18, 2018, 06:12:19 AM
Comey tells George Stephanopoulos that he reopened the Hillary Clinton email probe because he thought she would beat Trump and wanted her to be viewed as a 'legitimate' president
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5616741/James-Comey-reopened-Hillary-Clinton-email-probe-beat-Trump.html
Ok, so Comey wanted to take any taint off the newly discovered WeinerLaptopNothingburger before the election so her presumed victory would be legitimate. What does this have to do with Russian meddling?
Quote from: topside on July 17, 2018, 05:54:29 AM
My opinion ... the Left is grabbing for anything to try and impeach Trump - case in point is Trump's meeting with Putin. They will do anything to try and thwart his SCOTUS appointment. Anything.
I don't think so because it's such a hail Mary. They are owned and must go down throwing out whatever they can. They really have no choice.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 07:19:01 PM
That's part of what I don't get. Russia is an economic flea, military not strong but due to Putin they are overexagerated on the world stage cause he's very slick.
The G7 countries said screw 'em, we don't need them and they're correct. We're not at war and probably won't be because the endgame is unthinkable. What's the obsession with trump to play nice and be buddies?
No Morning Joe and I don't know what DU is, Ducks Unlimited?
Are you saying we should have a superior military?
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 09:29:49 PM
What does Hillary's server when she was SoS have to do with the 2016 election?
It shows how weak the Democrats are on national security and exposed Obama because he was one of the correspondents communicating on that server.
Quote
You have any evidence it was hacked by these Iranians? What top secret information?
It doesn't need to be hacked. You are under the assumption this wasn't set up as a clearinghouse for whomever purchased intel from the Clintons. If I were doing a deal with someone like Hillary, the best thing they could do for me was to set up a server outside of the federally secured system to give me easy access.
Quote
What's it been six years, four investigations and she hasn't been charged....I don get it.
She will be.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 18, 2018, 10:18:19 AM
Ok, so Comey wanted to take any taint off the newly discovered WeinerLaptopNothingburger before the election so her presumed victory would be legitimate. What does this have to do with Russian meddling?
FBI: Lisa Page Dimes Out Top FBI Officials During Classified House Testimony; Bureau Bosses Covered Up Evidence China Hacked Hillary's Top Secret EmailsFormer top FBI lawyer Lisa Page testified during two days of closed-door House hearings, revealing shocking new Intel against her old bosses at the Bureau, according the well-placed FBI sources.
Alarming new details on allegations of a bureau-wide cover up. Or should we say another bureau-wide cover up.
The embattled Page tossed James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok and Bill Priestap among others under the Congressional bus, alleging the upper echelon of the FBI concealed intelligence confirming Chinese state-backed 'assets' had illegally acquired former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's 30,000+ "missing" emails, federal sources said.
The Russians didn't do it. The Chinese did, according to well-placed FBI sources.
And while Democratic lawmakers and the mainstream media prop up Russia as America's boogeyman, it was the ironically Chinese who acquired Hillary's treasure trove of classified and top secret intelligence from her home-brewed private server.
And a public revelation of that magnitude — publicizing that a communist world power intercepted Hillary's sensitive and top secret emails — would have derailed Hillary Clinton's presidential hopes. Overnight. But it didn't simply because it was concealed.
FBI bosses knew of the breach yet did nothing to investigate, seemingly trying to run out the clock on the alarming revelations to protect Hillary during her heated presidential campaign with Trump. So instead of investigating the hacking of Clinton's server, FBI bosses sat quietly.
And did nothing to confirm the Chinese assets were linked to their government. Or assess the damage such a tremendous breach posed to national security. Did the Chinese government access Hillary's emails? The FBI didn't care enough to investigate at the risk of besmirching Clinton and further soiling her during the election.
Hundreds of top secret documents and even the president's daily travel and security itineraries were on that server — and intercepted by a communist country — yet the FBI sat on the evidence. Likewise, all of Clinton's and her inner circle's outgoing emails were compromised as well, sources confirmed.
More~
https://truepundit.com/fbi-lisa-page-dimes-out-top-fbi-officials-during-classified-house-testimony-bureau-bosses-covered-up-evidence-china-hacked-hillarys-top-secret-emails/
Wow, huuuuge bombshell!! I can't believe no one else picked this up. You would think the author would be on with the talking heads discussing this...waitasecond there is no author identified, hmmm, strange.
But again, this is yesterdays news, no mention on their webpage today, it's already archived.
BTW, what does this have to do with Russian meddling in 2016??
Quote from: Cadescove on July 18, 2018, 03:50:58 PM
Wow, huuuuge bombshell!! I can't believe no one else picked this up. You would think the author would be on with the talking heads discussing this...waitasecond there is no author identified, hmmm, strange.
But again, this is yesterdays news, no mention on their webpage today, it's already archived.
BTW, what does this have to do with Russian meddling in 2016??
Did you even read the article?
Bureau Bosses Covered Up Evidence China Hacked Hillary's Top Secret EmailsI guess you'll just have to wait for her testimony.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 17, 2018, 08:48:39 PM
Alternative facts.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1080281/download
The allegations are unambiguous and damming. Do you think it it went to trial they would be found innocent?
Sigh....let me explain something to you, as kindly and as constructively as I can and this is coming from someone who spent YEARS in the DCMPD Detective division and YEARS doing RICO/Narcotics cases and years as a Private security contractor overseas also occasionally dabbling in Private investigations, mainly copyright and Pirating knockoffs etc.
This indictment you are waving around as Gospel is just a CHARGING DOCUEMENT, it is the culmination of an "investigation" in which PROBABLE CAUSE of the alleged crimes named within was subitted to a Grand Jury of anywhere from 16 to 24 persons. Something I and other investigators and subordinates in my charge did time and time again usually in a complicated RICO case.
A Grand Jury indictment is not PROOF of anything, it merely means there is Probable cause (Let me define it to you) IE Facts and Circumstances that would lead a REASONABLE and PRUDENT person to beleive that a crime has been committed. Probable cause for an indictment can be dispelled so easily by a Lawyer it isnt even funny, thats EXACTLY what happened when A few Months back with the First Batch of Russians who were "Indicted" sent in their lawyers to DEMAND discovery.....do you understand what discovery is? Discovery is a legal motion by the defense for the Prosecution to TURN OVER ALL NOTES, REPORTS, RECORDINGS, VIDEO's EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING pertaining to the investigative process. Under the Law the Prosecutoin MUST do this or the case cannot proceed....what happened....Mueller and his fumbling bunch of Idiots (FBI) and first year Law clerks couldn't produce squat. Mueller was REAL LUCKY the Preiding Judge, who severely admonsihed Mueller et al didn't DWIP the case right then and there (Dismissed for Want in Prosecution) throw it out of court in layman terms.
I don;t want to digress too much but this Indictment might be impressive to you but to me it means squat. I want to see the Grand Jury Transcripts which outlines the probable cause and the INVESTIGATIVE PROCESS by which these Box Head Ruskies were caught. Did the investigators seize a server? How did they connect these people to the "hack"? Did they come about this by an "Informant?" If so was there coorboration? How did the invetigative body connect any of this if the DNC was unwilling to produce their server which was allegedly hacked? More importantly WHO CONDUCTED THIS INVESTIGATION?????
Now with that out of the way I shall answer your QUestion about
do I think if "they" went to trial would they be found [/i]innocent.....REAL GOOD CHANCE IF YOU GO TO TRIAL YOU CAN BEAT ALL OR SOME OF THE CHARGES DEPENDING Burden of PROOF is ALWAYS on the Govt, and very often the Govt does a slip shod job, they throw a bunch of shit into the grand jury and bedazzle the jurors with loads and loads of BS interspersed with some facts and Loads and loads more of innuendo until the jurors start to think....you know, these guys must have done something so yeah I'll vote to indict them, most of the time they don't have a clue, they got lost HOURS ago.....I know BECAUSE I'VE DONE THE SAME THING. Its called a "HOPEFA"case, you Hope fa the best that the scumbag who likely has a long record to begin with will plea to the indictment.
Quote from: Cadescove on July 18, 2018, 03:50:58 PM
Wow, huuuuge bombshell!! I can't believe no one else picked this up. You would think the author would be on with the talking heads discussing this...waitasecond there is no author identified, hmmm, strange.
But again, this is yesterdays news, no mention on their webpage today, it's already archived.
BTW, what does this have to do with Russian meddling in 2016??
Gee, I hate to be an "I Told You So".
But, Nah, just kidding, I love rubbing your smug lib nose it.
I suppose Trump is lying? :rolleyes:
Donald J. Trump
Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
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Report just out: "China hacked Hillary Clinton's private Email Server." Are they sure it wasn't Russia (just kidding!)? What are the odds that the FBI and DOJ are right on top of this? Actually, a very big story. Much classified information!
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
Which means they want Russia is take over the US because the lefts idea of fighting a war means giving the enemy every while concentrating on global warming climate change weather.
Quote from: Solar on August 28, 2018, 06:43:58 PM
I suppose Trump is lying? :rolleyes:
Donald J. Trump
Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
22m22 minutes ago
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Report just out: "China hacked Hillary Clinton's private Email Server." Are they sure it wasn't Russia (just kidding!)? What are the odds that the FBI and DOJ are right on top of this? Actually, a very big story. Much classified information!
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump
Our dear leader lying? He'd never ever do such a thing. :biggrin:
FBI rebuts Trump tweet about China hacking Hillary Clinton's email"The FBI has not found any evidence the (Clinton) servers were compromised," an FBI official told NBC News. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904811)
Oh crap on a cracker, he's been victimized by fake news....I'm sure he'll tweet a correction. :lol:
Quote from: Cadescove on August 29, 2018, 08:33:01 PM
Our dear leader lying? He'd never ever do such a thing. :biggrin:
FBI rebuts Trump tweet about China hacking Hillary Clinton's email
"The FBI has not found any evidence the (Clinton) servers were compromised," an FBI official told NBC News. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904811)
Oh crap on a cracker, he's been victimized by fake news....I'm sure he'll tweet a correction. :lol:
Ummm. An unnamed FBI source.
Quote from: Cadescove on August 29, 2018, 08:33:01 PM
Our dear leader lying? He'd never ever do such a thing. :biggrin:
FBI rebuts Trump tweet about China hacking Hillary Clinton's email
"The FBI has not found any evidence the (Clinton) servers were compromised," an FBI official told NBC News. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904811)
Oh crap on a cracker, he's been victimized by fake news....I'm sure he'll tweet a correction. :lol:
So I just hit you with a fact bomb, and you respond with crap on a cracker and expect everyone to simply accept it?
No wonder you libs fall for all the lies, you can't see deep enough to understand that what you just read was complete bull shit!
Your article very cleverly refers to Comey's investigation as evidence that Hillary server was never tapped, as does the article NBC references put out by the FBI.
Comey was fired for lying, or have you forgotten? All the shit produced under him, not only became suspect, but everything tied to Hillary has been covered up.
Learn to dissect this crap, this is all CYA, every bit of it.
Trump's Tweet stands alone as the truth, so get used to it, or keep looking the fool backing the liars and cheats.
Oh, and for God's sake, start using some semblance of critical thought, if that's even remotely possible.
Read what Gohmert had to say. Or are you going to attempt another refute with another fake news article? :lol:
Gohmert on FBI's Claim That No Evidence Was Found Regarding Hillary Clinton Server Breach
Washington, August 29, 2018 | 0 comments
WASHINGTON, D.C. –Congressman Louie Gohmert (TX-01) released the following statement today regarding the claim made by the FBI that they have 'not found any evidence' regarding Hillary Clinton's serving being breached:
"It's not surprising that the FBI 'has not found any evidence' regarding Clinton's servers being breached. Like I stated to Former FBI Agent Peter Strzok in the House Judiciary Hearing, it was the Obama-appointed Intelligence Community Inspector General that discovered the breach. It was not the FBI that found it, so their statement was technically correct, but very deceptive in its omission.When I asked Peter Strzok about this, he said that he remembered being briefed by the ICIG investigator but did not remember what it was about. That is not credible. We know that the FBI's head of counter-intelligence, Mr. Strzok, was doing all he could to help protect Hillary Clinton. So, when the Intel IG investigator came to report to Mr. Strzok that a specific foreign intelligence entity (which was not Russian) was receiving virtually all the emails from Secretary of State Clinton's private server in real time, it is not remotely believable that he would not remember the conversation. In fact, if he testified that he remembered the briefing, he would be potentially incriminating himself in a coverup or obstruction role.
One thing has been made acutely clear – partisan politics, sadly, are very much at play within some of the leadership at the FBI. Though Strzok and other FBI personnel were briefed on Hillary Clinton's server being hacked, as now reported, they knew this would devastate Hillary Clinton's chances of being elected and they were not about to let that happen.
Fortunately, progress is currently being made at the FBI and there are good people there who are making a difference. Unfortunately, the FBI's deceptive omission in its statement reveals that the FBI has not been completely cleansed of the partisanship that so pervasively corrupted it in Washington, DC."
https://gohmert.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398653
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2018, 06:44:37 AM
So I just hit you with a fact bomb, and you respond with crap on a cracker and expect everyone to simply accept it?
No wonder you libs fall for all the lies, you can't see deep enough to understand that what you just read was complete bull shit!
Your article very cleverly refers to Comey's investigation as evidence that Hillary server was never tapped, as does the article NBC references put out by the FBI.
Comey was fired for lying, or have you forgotten? All the shit produced under him, not only became suspect, but everything tied to Hillary has been covered up.
Learn to dissect this crap, this is all CYA, every bit of it.
Trump's Tweet stands alone as the truth, so get used to it, or keep looking the fool backing the liars and cheats.
Oh, and for God's sake, start using some semblance of critical thought, if that's even remotely possible.
Read what Gohmert had to say. Or are you going to attempt another refute with another fake news article? :lol:
Gohmert on FBI's Claim That No Evidence Was Found Regarding Hillary Clinton Server Breach
Washington, August 29, 2018 | 0 comments
WASHINGTON, D.C. –Congressman Louie Gohmert (TX-01) released the following statement today regarding the claim made by the FBI that they have 'not found any evidence' regarding Hillary Clinton's serving being breached:
"It's not surprising that the FBI 'has not found any evidence' regarding Clinton's servers being breached. Like I stated to Former FBI Agent Peter Strzok in the House Judiciary Hearing, it was the Obama-appointed Intelligence Community Inspector General that discovered the breach. It was not the FBI that found it, so their statement was technically correct, but very deceptive in its omission.
When I asked Peter Strzok about this, he said that he remembered being briefed by the ICIG investigator but did not remember what it was about. That is not credible. We know that the FBI's head of counter-intelligence, Mr. Strzok, was doing all he could to help protect Hillary Clinton. So, when the Intel IG investigator came to report to Mr. Strzok that a specific foreign intelligence entity (which was not Russian) was receiving virtually all the emails from Secretary of State Clinton's private server in real time, it is not remotely believable that he would not remember the conversation. In fact, if he testified that he remembered the briefing, he would be potentially incriminating himself in a coverup or obstruction role.
One thing has been made acutely clear – partisan politics, sadly, are very much at play within some of the leadership at the FBI. Though Strzok and other FBI personnel were briefed on Hillary Clinton's server being hacked, as now reported, they knew this would devastate Hillary Clinton's chances of being elected and they were not about to let that happen.
Fortunately, progress is currently being made at the FBI and there are good people there who are making a difference. Unfortunately, the FBI's deceptive omission in its statement reveals that the FBI has not been completely cleansed of the partisanship that so pervasively corrupted it in Washington, DC."
https://gohmert.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398653
Fact bomb, that's funny. Gohmert as a source, that might even be funnier.
The truth is in the pudding, Agent Orange should be tweeting up a storm about this...instead he's busy attacking FAKE NEWS!!!! How come Hillary isn't being perp walked today? Wait, she's busy tweeting about separated children. Maybe she's got a third or fourth ankle monitor :thumbup:
Quote from: Cadescove on August 30, 2018, 07:47:47 AM
Fact bomb, that's funny. Gohmert as a source, that might even be funnier.
The truth is in the pudding, Agent Orange should be tweeting up a storm about this...instead he's busy attacking FAKE NEWS!!!! How come Hillary isn't being perp walked today? Wait, she's busy tweeting about separated children. Maybe she's got a third or fourth ankle monitor :thumbup:
So, you use an NBC story that used Comey's old report, a report known to be false, to discredit the most recent truth, and then claim because Hillary isn't being perp-walked, so the entire thing is false?
Do you even hear yourself?
I have to ask. What is it about Marxism, that you find so appealing? Honest question.
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2018, 08:39:22 AM
I have to ask. What is it about Marxism, that you find so appealing? Honest question.
Don't know what I ever posted to make you think I'm done sort of Marxist (other than anyone who doesn't agree with your dogma must be a Socialist/Marxist) . I've been a businessperson, entrepreneur type the last 25+ years. Yeah, government can do things for us we can't do for ourselves (defense, infrastructure etc.) although it rarely does it well or efficiently, but it does have purpose.
Why do you believe all this conspiracy crappola? It's flat out goofy and destroys any credibility you may have. What about the fake moon landing, aliens in Roswell, the llumanait, Paul is dead, Flat earth? Some of the stuff you spew is right on that level.
Quote from: Cadescove on August 30, 2018, 10:41:14 AM
Don't know what I ever posted to make you think I'm done sort of Marxist (other than anyone who doesn't agree with your dogma must be a Socialist/Marxist) . I've been a businessperson, entrepreneur type the last 25+ years. Yeah, government can do things for us we can't do for ourselves (defense, infrastructure etc.) although it rarely does it well or efficiently, but it does have purpose.
Why do you believe all this conspiracy crappola? It's flat out goofy and destroys any credibility you may have. What about the fake moon landing, aliens in Roswell, the llumanait, Paul is dead, Flat earth? Some of the stuff you spew is right on that level.
Like the trump russia conspiracy? Or the hillary is innocent conspiracy? Or the big oil conspiracy? Or the great christian conspiracy? Or the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy? Or the stormy conspiracy?
See it can go both ways, but dont become a conspiracy denier who acts like conspiracies are impossible. People do conspire, it does happen. Follow the facts not your emotions to decide which are real and which are fake news.
Quote from: Cadescove on August 30, 2018, 07:47:47 AM
Fact bomb, that's funny. Gohmert as a source, that might even be funnier.
The truth is in the pudding, Agent Orange should be tweeting up a storm about this...instead he's busy attacking FAKE NEWS!!!! How come Hillary isn't being perp walked today? Wait, she's busy tweeting about separated children. Maybe she's got a third or fourth ankle monitor :thumbup:
I hope not. If her cohorts think she's wired up, they may not come out and play.
Quote from: Cadescove on August 30, 2018, 10:41:14 AM
Don't know what I ever posted to make you think I'm done sort of Marxist (other than anyone who doesn't agree with your dogma must be a Socialist/Marxist) . I've been a businessperson, entrepreneur type the last 25+ years. Yeah, government can do things for us we can't do for ourselves (defense, infrastructure etc.) although it rarely does it well or efficiently, but it does have purpose.
The fact that you vote Dim and believe all the lies and ignore the obvious, such as dividing Americans along every line possible, like race, culture, religion, income status, these are all the tools used by leftists.
It's no secret the left hates the country, they're even demanding we throw out our Founding documents.
QuoteWhy do you believe all this conspiracy crappola? It's flat out goofy and destroys any credibility you may have. What about the fake moon landing, aliens in Roswell, the llumanait, Paul is dead, Flat earth? Some of the stuff you spew is right on that level.
I have no idea what you're talking about, "Fake moon landing"? Are you trying to tell me the moon landing was faked? :lol: :lol: :lol:
What about aliens in Roswell, do you have actual evidence one way or the other? Who is Paul and when did he die? So, you're a flat-earther, is that what you're saying?
So you really believe the leftist media even when the truth is right in front of you?
Again, why do you support Marxists?
Quote from: Cadescove on July 18, 2018, 10:18:19 AM
Ok, so Comey wanted to take any taint off the newly discovered WeinerLaptopNothingburger before the election so her presumed victory would be legitimate. What does this have to do with Russian meddling?
When you find out, let us know.
Quote from: Cadescove on August 29, 2018, 08:33:01 PM
Our dear leader lying? He'd never ever do such a thing. :biggrin:
FBI rebuts Trump tweet about China hacking Hillary Clinton's email
"The FBI has not found any evidence the (Clinton) servers were compromised," an FBI official told NBC News. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna904811)
Oh crap on a cracker, he's been victimized by fake news....I'm sure he'll tweet a correction. :lol:
Post the source.
Quote from: taxed on August 30, 2018, 12:21:49 PM
When you find out, let us know.
Oh LOL! I missed that sentence. Are they still falling for the lie that Trump was somehow involved with Russians, despite the fact all the evidence points to the Dims?
Quote from: taxed on August 30, 2018, 12:23:12 PM
Post the source.
Whats funny is the headline has zero to do with Trump's tweet, especially since they''re referring to an old FBI document that has since been proven to be a fraud.
Quote from: Cadescove on August 30, 2018, 07:47:47 AM
Fact bomb, that's funny. Gohmert as a source, that might even be funnier.
The truth is in the pudding, Agent Orange should be tweeting up a storm about this...instead he's busy attacking FAKE NEWS!!!! How come Hillary isn't being perp walked today? Wait, she's busy tweeting about separated children. Maybe she's got a third or fourth ankle monitor :thumbup:
Try again. Two sources.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/27/china-hacked-clinton-server/
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2018, 12:25:08 PM
Oh LOL! I missed that sentence. Are they still falling for the lie that Trump was somehow involved with Russians, despite the fact all the evidence points to the Dims?
They're trying to run from it, while clinging to it. It's an odd paradox they're in.
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2018, 12:27:53 PM
Whats funny is the headline has zero to do with Trump's tweet, especially since they''re referring to an old FBI document that has since been proven to be a fraud.
And they admit it!
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2018, 12:42:47 PM
Boggles the mind.
The spotlight is slowly moving to China. They can't avoid it.
Quote from: taxed on August 30, 2018, 12:29:02 PM
Try again. Two sources.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/27/china-hacked-clinton-server/
Wait! IIsn't this the server that Obozo claimed he had no knowledge of? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Then-FBI Deputy Director Mark F. Giuliano sent a follow-up memo on July 21, 2015, to President Barack Obama's deputy attorney general, Sally Yates, about two conversations he had with her about the criminal referral.
"On 13 July 2015 and 20 July 2015, I verbally advised you of a Section 811(c) referral from the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community received by the FBI on 06 July 2015. The referral addressed the mishandling of classified information on the personal e-mail account and electronic media of a former high-level us Government official," according to the FBI memo, which was hand delivered to Yates.
Quote from: taxed on August 30, 2018, 12:43:29 PM
The spotlight is slowly moving to China. They can't avoid it.
Great video from your link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NyvIrslqW4
Gohmert doubles down after FBI dismisses claim of Clinton server hack
Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert doubled down after the FBI dismissed claims that a Chinese state-owned company hacked former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email server.
'[P]artisan politics, sadly, are very much at play within some of the leadership at the FBI," the Texas congressman said in a statement late Wednesday.
The Daily Caller first reported that the FBI was notified of the purported hack in 2015, when the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) warned the bureau of the intrusion. The hack reportedly implanted code that generated a "courtesy copy" for almost all Clinton's emails -- which was then forwarded to the Chinese company.
A source briefed on the matter confirmed to Fox News the details of the Caller's reporting. Gohmert also had told Fox News on Tuesday that the emails were obtained by a foreign country's intelligence, though he declined to name the country in question.
But on Wednesday, the FBI sharply disputed the claims, saying it "has not found any evidence the servers were compromised."
In his overnight statement, Gohmert argued it was the ICIG -- not the FBI -- that discovered the breach. He said the FBI conveniently omitted that detail.
More and video.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/30/gohmert-doubles-down-after-fbi-dismisses-claim-clinton-server-hack.html
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2018, 02:25:17 PM
Gohmert doubles down after FBI dismisses claim of Clinton server hack
Republican Rep. Louie Gohmert doubled down after the FBI dismissed claims that a Chinese state-owned company hacked former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's private email server.
'[P]artisan politics, sadly, are very much at play within some of the leadership at the FBI," the Texas congressman said in a statement late Wednesday.
The Daily Caller first reported that the FBI was notified of the purported hack in 2015, when the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) warned the bureau of the intrusion. The hack reportedly implanted code that generated a "courtesy copy" for almost all Clinton's emails -- which was then forwarded to the Chinese company.
A source briefed on the matter confirmed to Fox News the details of the Caller's reporting. Gohmert also had told Fox News on Tuesday that the emails were obtained by a foreign country's intelligence, though he declined to name the country in question.
But on Wednesday, the FBI sharply disputed the claims, saying it "has not found any evidence the servers were compromised."
In his overnight statement, Gohmert argued it was the ICIG -- not the FBI -- that discovered the breach. He said the FBI conveniently omitted that detail.
More and video.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/30/gohmert-doubles-down-after-fbi-dismisses-claim-clinton-server-hack.html
Looks like Cadescove will need to admit that President Trump was correct. Again.
Quote from: taxed on August 30, 2018, 04:38:15 PM
Looks like Cadescove will need to admit that President Trump was correct. Again.
Funny thing is, he's yet to have been wrong on time, in all the claims he made since before the election, even when the leftist media were calling him a conspiracy freak, he rubs their Fake as news noses in shit.
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2018, 04:57:20 PM
Funny thing is, he's yet to have been wrong on time, in all the claims he made since before the election, even when the leftist media were calling him a conspiracy freak, he rubs their Fake as news noses in shit.
Where's the report?
Quote from: Cadescove on August 30, 2018, 05:10:13 PM
Where's the report?
Probably being redacted.
You still haven't answered my question. Why do you continue to support America hating Marxists?
Quote from: Solar on August 30, 2018, 05:15:14 PM
Probably being redacted.
You still haven't answered my question. Why do you continue to support America hating Marxists?
Thought I did, but I'll be happy to expound when I see the report! 😁😁😱
Quote from: Cadescove on August 30, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
Thought I did, but I'll be happy to expound when I see the report! 😁😁😱
Which has absolutely nothing to do with your support of Marxists. So why do you support them?