QuoteThe House on Thursday just barely advance legislation that would provide President Obama with "fast track" trade negotiating powers, overcoming the opposition of almost every Democrat and a significant block of conservative Republicans.

The rule for considering these bills passed by a vote of 217-212, a vote that was only made possible thanks to the late decision of eight Democrats to vote for it, a rare show of support from Democrats who normally vote against Republicans at this stage of the legislative process.

Passage of the rule allows the House to proceed to debate and take a final vote Friday on the trade promotion authority bill as well as the trade adjustment assistance act. The TPA extends powers awarded to the president to negotiate trade bills in an expedited fashion and with little opportunity for Congress to alter them.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obamas-trade-package-barely-advances-in-razor-thin-house-vote/article/2566080

Hopefully it will die!

Wow, Talk about spin....

QuoteThe rule for considering these bills passed by a vote of 217-212, a vote that was only made possible thanks to the late decision of eight Democrats to vote for it, a rare show of support from Democrats who normally vote against Republicans at this stage of the legislative process.

Quote from: Solar on June 11, 2015, 08:44:40 PM
Wow, Talk about spin....

Our conservative talk radio hosts are all over this one to our reps-Gowdy and Scott.  Gowdy's office hung up on talk radio's Tara yesterday when she was asking how Gowdy would vote on the bill.  Looks like our duly electeds are going against us on this one.  If we can't get this one stopped, I don't see any further need for Congress.  Just a bunch of suits going along with the destruction of our country.   

Quote from: MACMan on June 11, 2015, 05:47:56 PM
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/obamas-trade-package-barely-advances-in-razor-thin-house-vote/article/2566080

It is the "opportunity of Congress to altar them" phrase that many politicians are saying is pivotal to their acceptance of the Bill.  They say that Congress has the last say in any matter.

However, most Americans no longer trust Obama to allow Congress to control anything he does.

This entire matter is very confusing to most Americans....... especially when you have Walker and Cruz supporting it.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/ted-cruz-channels-paul-ryan-a-lot-of-misinformation-on-obamatrade-that-you-can-get-on-the-internet/

Quote from: kroz on June 12, 2015, 04:49:07 AM
It is the "opportunity of Congress to altar them" phrase that many politicians are saying is pivotal to their acceptance of the Bill.  They say that Congress has the last say in any matter.

However, most Americans no longer trust Obama to allow Congress to control anything he does.

This entire matter is very confusing to most Americans....... especially when you have Walker and Cruz supporting it.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/11/ted-cruz-channels-paul-ryan-a-lot-of-misinformation-on-obamatrade-that-you-can-get-on-the-internet/

Also Gowdy and Scott, two I wouldn't think to have voted for it.  It could never be smart to give a president this much power, especially this president.  We are so screwed if this passes. 

Quote from: keyboarder on June 12, 2015, 05:02:58 AM
Also Gowdy and Scott, two I wouldn't think to have voted for it.  It could never be smart to give a president this much power, especially this president.  We are so screwed if this passes.

The only, and I mean only thing Gowdy has done, is act the good game of prosecutor on TV for our consumption.
The doesn't have a solid "C" rating for nothing. I expect to see his ass primaried.

Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2015, 06:00:33 AM
The only, and I mean only thing Gowdy has done, is act the good game of prosecutor on TV for our consumption.
The doesn't have a solid "C" rating for nothing. I expect to see his ass primaried.

This "Housekeeping" operation is somewhat like a revolving door.  The grassroots elect seemingly conservative folks to promptly find out that it was a facade!   ..... example, Marco Rubio!

So, it is back to the drawing board with new blood that will have integrity!  That seems to be a very illusive commodity!   

Quote from: kroz on June 12, 2015, 06:04:42 AM
This "Housekeeping" operation is somewhat like a revolving door.  The grassroots elect seemingly conservative folks to promptly find out that it was a facade!   ..... example, Marco Rubio!

So, it is back to the drawing board with new blood that will have integrity!  That seems to be a very illusive commodity!   

FWIW, my friend Louie Gohmert is one of the FEW conservatives still standing against this Bill......  you go, Louie!!!!

Quote from: kroz on June 12, 2015, 06:04:42 AM
This "Housekeeping" operation is somewhat like a revolving door.  The grassroots elect seemingly conservative folks to promptly find out that it was a facade!   ..... example, Marco Rubio!

So, it is back to the drawing board with new blood that will have integrity!  That seems to be a very illusive commodity!   

I started watching him closely after he said off the cuff, "I'm not TEA, but I support a lot of what they do".
WTF? The only way you couldn't support TEA as a Representative, is to either be an ignorant blithering idiot, or a RINO, and he's proven to be quite the prosecutor, so he's no idiot, but he definitely gives Hollyweird actors a run for their money.

Yes, Gowdy is full blown lying RINO.
We really need to start a thread on him, and make it an official exposing of the poser.

Quote from: Solar on June 12, 2015, 06:49:40 AM
I started watching him closely after he said off the cuff, "I'm not TEA, but I support a lot of what they do".
WTF? The only way you couldn't support TEA as a Representative, is to either be an ignorant blithering idiot, or a RINO, and he's proven to be quite the prosecutor, so he's no idiot, but he definitely gives Hollyweird actors a run for their money.

Yes, Gowdy is full blown lying RINO.
We really need to start a thread on him, and make it an official exposing of the poser.

The irony is that it was grassroots TEA that got Rubio elected!

Now he is distancing himself from them?  Give me a break!!!!

Since when did TEA become a dirty word?  Since the msm tarred and feathered us ad nauseum. 

Quote from: kroz on June 12, 2015, 07:44:46 AM
The irony is that it was grassroots TEA that got Rubio elected!

Now he is distancing himself from them?  Give me a break!!!!

Since when did TEA become a dirty word?  Since the msm tarred and feathered us ad nauseum.

He did more than distance himself from TEA, he outright lied to get elected.
Yeah, let the LSM denigrate TEA, but we always get the last laugh after the election ends.

This is the most confusing bill I can remember.  Nobody has seen the real bill, of course, but Trumpka and the unions oppose it, many Dems oppose it, Republicans like it, Hussein likes it, Ryan says it takes away power from Hussein, yet Hussein is running to the Hill to whip up votes to pass a bill that takes power from him?

WTF is going on?

Quote from: taxed on June 12, 2015, 10:06:02 AM
This is the most confusing bill I can remember.  Nobody has seen the real bill, of course, but Trumpka and the unions oppose it, many Dems oppose it, Republicans like it, Hussein likes it, Ryan says it takes away power from Hussein, yet Hussein is running to the Hill to whip up votes to pass a bill that takes power from him?

WTF is going on?

I certainly identify with your frustration, taxed.  I don't think anyone really knows what is happening.

As I noted earlier..... it is Animal House on steroids!

Cruz clears up a lot of confusion:

http://therightscoop.com/ted-cruz-jeff-sessions-is-wrong-about-obamatrade-deal-full-audio/