I hate to sound like an angry lib from 2000, but there's NO doubt in my mind. Thanks to leads from a few here and other places, I have NO doubt that this election was "won" through fraud. Within a few days I'll have enough evidence gathered that I'll be comfortable with contacting some of the Tea Party orgs and the decent Congressmen and women.
This needs to be exposed and even if it changes nothing for the next 2 to 4 years, I want a large segment of the AMERICAN People to see Obama as illegitimate. I'm disgusted with this guy and his party.
I will boycott UNION made products in support of AMERICA. These Obama supporters will not make another dime off me! :angry:
I hate to say it, but I think you're right.
The base was more fired up this time around, yet the claim is that less of us voted?
I hope they do a thorough counting of suspect counties, this is way out of line with reality.
Did you know he won 100% of the vote in most precincts in Cleveland? That's only the beginning. He also lost EVERY state with voter ID laws. We HAVE to fix this. Ohio and Florida (both narrow "victories" for Obama) have no voter ID requirements.
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-EasfqsNCEAQ%2FUJ8Bea5VcrI%2FAAAAAAAAAuU%2FG3WtNvvY2QM%2Fs400%2Fvoter%252Bid.jpg&hash=e55f268ffd73dabc53840238f61b8b34ad6b667d)
As I have said before: Welcome to the wide, wide world of the new Democrat National Socialism.
It's sad to say but I completely agree with you and I've been saying that since Tuesday night. They were giving states to Obama before even 2% of votes were in from them. It is a shame because Romney ran a great campaign and I really believe that he was the true winner. I definitely believe there was some "behind-the-scenes" work. Call it what you will, but I am having a hard time believing that this was a true, honest election.
There are m;any versions of this and they are all relevant:
When the Nazis came for the communists,
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
Just add the names of the new enemies.
:thumbup: I think that's the original version
"War Hero" John McCain was AFRAID
Leaked emails from the intelligence group Stratfor recently revealed some shocking allegations of massive Democrat voter fraud in 2008. The emails revealed by WikiLeaks say that the McCain campaign decided to ignore the wide spread voter fraud in order to avoid massive civil unrest — even though it meant he'd lose the White House.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302)
Maybe this could help you out with your quest.
Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012
http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/ (http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/)
Evidence of massive Obama voter fraud in Colorado! Ten counties show 104% to 140% turnout!
http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters-than-people/ (http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/04/colorado-counties-have-more-voters-than-people/)
This is How Liberty Dies
voter fraud (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxHKMN0SNp8#)
ahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....
Translation: the American people voted for someone I didn't like, so it isn't legitimate!
If the election was a fraud, how were statisticians such as Nate Silver able to predict all 50 states and the electoral vote nearly to precise numbers? Did they have inside knowledge on the exact number of fraudulent votes that Obama's masterful political machine would produce? Was Real Clear Politics, a right winging website, also in on this grant conspiracy? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 06:40:00 AM
Translation: the American people voted for someone I didn't like, so it isn't legitimate!
If the election was a fraud, how were statisticians such as Nate Silver able to predict all 50 states and the electoral vote nearly to precise numbers? Did they have inside knowledge on the exact number of fraudulent votes that Obama's masterful political machine would produce? Was Real Clear Politics, a right winging website, also in on this grant conspiracy? :rolleyes:
Actually, since the majority of the fraud was the mechanical type, where the vote was switched due to "miscallibrated" machines, which was a fairly rampant problem in OH, FL, and SC. OH alone had over 40,000 machines removed due to this problem, none of it noticed until after the vote was well underway. Since Nate Silver was fed numbers from the campaign, and the campaign knew exactly which states they would win (because they knew that the only way that people would ever find out was if an actual ballot count was performed). I thought it was funny the night of the election that the Obama camp would claim victory over OH before it even closed, no poll is that good.
Frankly, I think the left trotted out Nate Silver to make the numbers they knew they would get legitimate. They had to, every other poll was a dead heat, wouldn't look good if no one predicted a big EC win for O and it happened, and no one else did. Nate Silver's predictions are no more prediction, than saying the sky will be blue tomorrow.
QuoteFrankly, I think the left trotted out Nate Silver to make the numbers they knew they would get legitimate.
Good point. I'm so sick of hearing that name that I never heard of until Nov 7th.
His name still makes my head explode but I guess some don't like the splatter all over the forum floor! :lol:
Quote from: JustKari on November 11, 2012, 08:50:08 AM
Actually, since the majority of the fraud was the mechanical type, where the vote was switched due to "miscallibrated" machines, which was a fairly rampant problem in OH, FL, and SC. OH alone had over 40,000 machines removed due to this problem, none of it noticed until after the vote was well underway. Since Nate Silver was fed numbers from the campaign, and the campaign knew exactly which states they would win (because they knew that the only way that people would ever find out was if an actual ballot count was performed). I thought it was funny the night of the election that the Obama camp would claim victory over OH before it even closed, no poll is that good.
Frankly, I think the left trotted out Nate Silver to make the numbers they knew they would get legitimate. They had to, every other poll was a dead heat, wouldn't look good if no one predicted a big EC win for O and it happened, and no one else did. Nate Silver's predictions are no more prediction, than saying the sky will be blue tomorrow.
Oh, so Obama himself was in on this elaborate conspiracy, and relayed the greatest hoax in American political history...to internet bloggers? :lol:
Accept it: Obama won. Romney lost. The American people are clearly rejecting the Republican party's extreme conservatism. Your predictions over the election were wrong. Don't give me any of this "WAH THE LIBERALS RIGGED THE ELECTION!" bullshit.
SFF,
You might be right, but I do wonder about so many areas that had more votes counted than actual people that voted. Also, much like other Democrat "wins" I am amazed as Democrat officials always seem to "find" extra votes at the last minute.
So be it.
Welcome to America of the Democrat National Socialism.
Quote from: a777pilot on November 11, 2012, 09:27:05 AM
SFF,
You might be right, but I do wonder about so many areas that had more votes counted than actual people that voted. Also, much like other Democrat "wins" I am amazed as Democrat officials always seem to "find" extra votes at the last minute.
So be it.
Welcome to America of the Democrat National Socialism.
You have absolutely no perspective. Only someone who is unaware of the existence of the rest of the world would think that Obama's policies are "socialist". In reality, pretty much the rest of Western civilization has implemented Obama's policies to an enormously larger degree, with high levels of success.
You guys are on the wrong side of history (again),
already.
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
You have absolutely no perspective. Only someone who is unaware of the existence of the rest of the world would think that Obama's policies are "socialist". In reality, pretty much the rest of Western civilization has implemented Obama's policies to an enormously larger degree, with high levels of success.
You guys are on the wrong side of history (again), already.
Give em hell, scifi. Just look at how wonderful Europe is doing. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: kramarat on November 11, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
Give em hell, scifi. Just look at how wonderful Europe is doing. :lol: :lol: :lol:
Lower poverty rate, better education system, better health care system. We still have 'em beat on many things, but these are a result of factors of America that succeed in spite of conservatism, not because of it.
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
You have absolutely no perspective. Only someone who is unaware of the existence of the rest of the world would think that Obama's policies are "socialist". In reality, pretty much the rest of Western civilization has implemented Obama's policies to an enormously larger degree, with high levels of success.
You guys are on the wrong side of history (again), already.
Yes, I am sure you are an expert on all things socialistic, forgive me if I believe my college friend from the Ukraine over you who, after the election said, "welcome to socialism, USA" she sees the US becoming exactly what she worked so hard to leave.
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 09:29:50 AM
You have absolutely no perspective. Only someone who is unaware of the existence of the rest of the world would think that Obama's policies are "socialist". In reality, pretty much the rest of Western civilization has implemented Obama's policies to an enormously larger degree, with high levels of success.
You guys are on the wrong side of history (again), already.
You might wish to look up what National Socialism is.
All I can say is I suspected this when the Marxists were countering Voter ID laws that they had a massive fraud campaign underway.
I'd love to know how many Illegals voted.
I served as an election monitor in Northern Va. I would say that 50% in the Fairfax-Centerville district voted for Romney....
Voter ID, at least in my precinct,was strictly heeded.
I don't see how he won Va, outside of Northern Va and Richmond it was almost solid Romney....the disgust with Obamao and especially Sen Kaine was rife.
Billy
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 06:40:00 AM
Translation: the American people voted for someone I didn't like, so it isn't legitimate!
If the election was a fraud, how were statisticians such as Nate Silver able to predict all 50 states and the electoral vote nearly to precise numbers? Did they have inside knowledge on the exact number of fraudulent votes that Obama's masterful political machine would produce? Was Real Clear Politics, a right winging website, also in on this grant conspiracy? :rolleyes:
Funny, liberals didn't see it that way in 2000 and 2004. Liberals are truly the biggest hypocrites on the planet.
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 06:40:00 AM
Translation: the American people voted for someone I didn't like, so it isn't legitimate!
Hey, it worked for you guys in 2000! :rolleyes:
QuoteIf the election was a fraud, how were statisticians such as Nate Silver able to predict all 50 states and the electoral vote nearly to precise numbers? Did they have inside knowledge on the exact number of fraudulent votes that Obama's masterful political machine would produce? Was Real Clear Politics, a right winging website, also in on this grant conspiracy? :rolleyes:
You don't have to be in on the fraud to know what the results are going to be when it happens!
Chicago has one of the most corrupt political machines in the country. Chicago hasn't had a Republican mayor since 1931 - that's 81 effing years! Do you think that is by chance?
Not bloody likely!
Now, where does Obama call home? Where did he learn how politics is done?
Chicago!
You don't have to be Carnack the Magnificent to understand what happened in this election.
QuoteHey, it worked for you guys in 2000! :rolleyes:
In your heart you know that's a myth. Gore NEVER won a single recount. And he never would have stopped. He/you just don't know how to lose graciously.
Quote from: Yawn on November 11, 2012, 08:58:02 PM
In your heart you know that's a myth. Gore NEVER won a single recount. And he never would have stopped. He/you just don't know how to lose graciously.
I was being sarcastic...
I hope you find that evidence.
I have had an extremely hard time trying to get vote reports in text form from anywhere. Al I can find is graphical information and only grand totals.
No county totals, breakdowns, No details of anything. I even had a hard time trying to find a exact grand total of the Popular vote.
I was wondering when the crazies would start with this. Can't handle reality so try to alter reality instead. Instead of focusing on desperate theories why don't you focus on what this party can do to turn it around. Talk about your sore losers wow. Good bye!
Quote from: hoosier on November 11, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
I was wondering when the crazies would start with this. Can't handle reality so try to alter reality instead. Instead of focusing on desperate theories why don't you focus on what this party can do to turn it around. Talk about your sore losers wow. Good bye!
Awesome tantrum...
Only a matter of time before voter fraud was the hot topic.
Unless you have some actual evidence of this happening, don't even bother.
Also, " The base had so much energy and I was sure everyone hated Obama" isn't evidence for a stolen election.
Quote from: redlom xof on November 12, 2012, 02:42:52 AM
Only a matter of time before voter fraud was the hot topic.
Unless you have some actual evidence of this happening, don't even bother.
Also, " The base had so much energy and I was sure everyone hated Obama" isn't evidence for a stolen election.
This was a common problem in the swing states. I'm sure it wouldn't have been so easily brushed off if Obama votes were switched to Romney votes.
http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/24/voter-fraud-north-carolina-residents-select-romney-but-vote-comes-up-for-obama/ (http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/24/voter-fraud-north-carolina-residents-select-romney-but-vote-comes-up-for-obama/)
http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Voting-machines-switch-Romney-votes-to-Obama/m9dR8WDjbUKX8OFu4meIFQ.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Voting-machines-switch-Romney-votes-to-Obama/m9dR8WDjbUKX8OFu4meIFQ.cspx)
http://www.examiner.com/article/voting-machines-kansas-ohio-reportedly-changing-romney-votes-to-obama (http://www.examiner.com/article/voting-machines-kansas-ohio-reportedly-changing-romney-votes-to-obama)
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/03/Electronic-Voting-Machines-In-Battleground-States-Switching-Romney-Votes-For-Obama (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/03/Electronic-Voting-Machines-In-Battleground-States-Switching-Romney-Votes-For-Obama)
No amount of Fraudulent Voting discovery will change any final vote results.
Even if it was discovered that the Democrats forged all of Obama's winning electoral vote margin.
No Impeachment of Obama would be successful.
However the precursor evidence of vote fraud has popped up everywhere for years.
The Acorn voter registration program actually laid it bare. Shockingly the Holder DOJ actually prosecuted a number of people.
But the DOG has been a zealously strong advocate against any form of Voter ID and has literally stated they won't pursue Civil Rights violations against Blacks.
When you have 30,000 dead people registered, large communities with more voters than population, and proven examples demonstrated by James O'Keefe of Voter ballots freely being passed out by the gross conditions exist for IRRESISTIBLE VOTER FRAUD.
The Republican Party has been derelict and a no show in addressing those problems.
John Funds Book "Stolen Elections" provides detailed steps to the myriad ways in which Democrats ((98% of the time) have been stealing elections for generations.
In Chicago it is Union Workers that mostly man the Polls.
Election fraud needs to be stopped. The only way to do that is "POST MORTEM ANALYSIS" of current voting processes and then get enough people to organize and prevent it's recurrence.
To me "Only the Liberal" who is not interested in fair and honest elections would term it Sore Loser Syndrome.
Quote from: Cyborg on November 12, 2012, 06:39:48 AM
No amount of Fraudulent Voting discovery will change any final vote results.
Even if it was discovered that the Democrats forged all of Obama's winning electoral vote margin.
No Impeachment of Obama would be successful.
However the precursor evidence of vote fraud has popped up everywhere for years.
The Acorn voter registration program actually laid it bare. Shockingly the Holder DOJ actually prosecuted a number of people.
But the DOG has been a zealously strong advocate against any form of Voter ID and has literally stated they won't pursue Civil Rights violations against Blacks.
When you have 30,000 dead people registered, large communities with more voters than population, and proven examples demonstrated by James O'Keefe of Voter ballots freely being passed out by the gross conditions exist for IRRESISTIBLE VOTER FRAUD.
The Republican Party has been derelict and a no show in addressing those problems.
John Funds Book "Stolen Elections" provides detailed steps to the myriad ways in which Democrats ((98% of the time) have been stealing elections for generations.
In Chicago it is Union Workers that mostly man the Polls.
Election fraud needs to be stopped. The only way to do that is "POST MORTEM ANALYSIS" of current voting processes and then get enough people to organize and prevent it's recurrence.
To me "Only the Liberal" who is not interested in fair and honest elections would term it Sore Loser Syndrome.
The left cares nothing about fairness as long as it is to their advantage.
Quote from: Yawn on November 10, 2012, 06:49:16 PM
:thumbup: I think that's the original version
"War Hero" John McCain was AFRAID
Leaked emails from the intelligence group Stratfor recently revealed some shocking allegations of massive Democrat voter fraud in 2008. The emails revealed by WikiLeaks say that the McCain campaign decided to ignore the wide spread voter fraud in order to avoid massive civil unrest — even though it meant he'd lose the White House.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302 (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/46302)
And your surprised because? The same thing happened with Nixon/Kennedy in 1960. Hell the same thing happened with Tilden/Hayes in 1876. For years Republicans have been silent in the face of widespread voter fraud. The Dems count on it. They assume that the Republicans are loathe to tear the country apart over the issue. That pretty much means they can cheat with impunity.
Not surprised. Just letting the world know that John McCain KNEW about Democrat FRAUD and did NOTHING.
THAT is the person I did not vote for in 2008 and WHY.
If they run Jeb Bush, I won't vote for him either. Let it collapse. Jeb would bring it down anyway. He supports open borders.
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/ (http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/)
Thought you guys would find this interesting, not a single vote cast in Philly for Romney...not one. What are the chances?
And some, even on our side, don't think there could be enough fraud to throw the election!
If the laws aren't enforced, you'll never get your country back without revolution.
check this out. I think it best summarizes how the 2 political groups are ripping and fighting over the power of the people. It's a shirt BTW, but I think it's pretty good.
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 10:01:56 AM
Lower poverty rate, better education system, better health care system. We still have 'em beat on many things, but these are a result of factors of America that succeed in spite of conservatism, not because of it.
I'm a native of SC.
Poverty rate in SC is still going up
You know where we still are on the Nat'l level of education don't you?
Exact "revenge" clauses of Obamacare not known because of continued tweaking of them.
You conveniently left out employment numbers which are pathetic-still
Puhleese, give us a break, don't you need to be consoling the rest of your brothers on their impending doom? We already know where it's headed. You still don't get it either. We are not sore losers, ALL of us are losers from the advent of socialism in America.
But, I would like the numbers or the time period, at least, when all of these glorious changes are supposed to be evident to "our" part of the losers. You'll forgive me, of course, if I don't wait on any of that information because all you are doing is trying to quell the approaching storm of dissent. For what? How are you personally any better off than you were 4 years ago? I'm no worse off but the future is certainly cloudier than it was with the Obamacare issues and the taxation issues on the horizon. How in hell can you decisively state that Obamacare is a grand solution for all when parts of it are not known yet to any of us? That supposition alone makes every argument you make FOR socialism suspect. I and dissenters know what the definition of socialism is and we don't like it. How can your understanding of it make us like it any more? It's a fairytale and the sooner you realize and abandon it, the better off you will be.
Rush made me think I made a mistake. At first he agreed that Obama won zero states requiring photo ID. He then backtracked using Virginia as an example. According to my map below, he was right the first time. Obummer won no state requiring photo ID. It's the least all states should require.
Quote from: Yawn on November 10, 2012, 05:42:19 PM
Did you know he won 100% of the vote in most precincts in Cleveland? That's only the beginning. He also lost EVERY state with voter ID laws. We HAVE to fix this. Ohio and Florida (both narrow "victories" for Obama) have no voter ID requirements.
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-EasfqsNCEAQ%2FUJ8Bea5VcrI%2FAAAAAAAAAuU%2FG3WtNvvY2QM%2Fs400%2Fvoter%252Bid.jpg&hash=e55f268ffd73dabc53840238f61b8b34ad6b667d)
Quote from: JustKari on November 12, 2012, 07:50:15 AM
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/ (http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/)
Thought you guys would find this interesting, not a single vote cast in Philly for Romney...not one. What are the chances?
Huh? Your link says there were 91,840 votes for Romney in Philadelphia, not zero.
Quote from: JustKari on November 12, 2012, 07:50:15 AM
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/ (http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/)
Thought you guys would find this interesting, not a single vote cast in Philly for Romney...not one. What are the chances?
And now Obama is cutting their food stamps :lol:
Quote from: RightIsRight on November 12, 2012, 01:40:15 PM
Huh? Your link says there were 91,840 votes for Romney in Philadelphia, not zero.
I wonder if they meant electoral votes?
Sections of Philadelphia. If it's not fraud but simply a RACIAL thing, that brings up a whole new set of problems. Can that group be trusted with the vote if they're 100% tied to such an anti-American idiotology?
In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20121112_In_59_Philadelphia_voting_wards__Mitt_Romney_got_zero_votes.html)
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 08:57:33 AM
Oh, so Obama himself was in on this elaborate conspiracy, and relayed the greatest hoax in American political history...to internet bloggers? :lol:
Accept it: Obama won. Romney lost. The American people are clearly rejecting the Republican party's extreme conservatism. Your predictions over the election were wrong. Don't give me any of this "WAH THE LIBERALS RIGGED THE ELECTION!" bullshit.
No, that wasn't the greatest hoax. The greatest hoax was his fraudulent birth certificate. The guy was born in Kenya. End of story.
Quote from: Solar on November 12, 2012, 02:13:28 PM
I wonder if they meant electoral votes?
I think Kari was looking at the electoral votes, but her mistake is irrelevent.
We depend on computers for just about everything these days, and for the most part they work. To have malfunctioning touch screen machines show up in the battleground states, means one of two things.
1) It was intentional, and the machines were rigged to change votes.
2) Government is incompetent on even the simplest tasks, and should not be trusted to run
anything...........especially our healthcare..............or quite frankly, anything that is equal to, or more complicated than getting a computer touch screen to work properly, or even making sure they work right before the polls open. They failed.
As a matter of fact. If we don't want cheating, why would we train non-professional poll watchers to open up and calibrate the voting machines? Particularly in democrat controlled swing states.
Why wouldn't the machines be calibrated and sealed before they went to the voting booths?
Once there, they should be completely tamper proof.
No cheating went on...................my ass. :angry:
Quote from: Yawn on November 12, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
Sections of Philadelphia. If it's not fraud but simply a RACIAL thing, that brings up a whole new set of problems. Can that group be trusted with the vote if they're 100% tied to such an anti-American idiotology?
In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20121112_In_59_Philadelphia_voting_wards__Mitt_Romney_got_zero_votes.html)
Did you really want some non-drinking square named Willard as president anyways? Obama is no black jesus, but at least he's the devil we know.
Quote from: Solar on November 12, 2012, 02:13:28 PM
I wonder if they meant electoral votes?
I mispoke, Yawn posted what I meant, in 59 voting divisions, Mitt got 0 votes.
Does anyone here actually accept that Romney didn't get at least one vote, in 59 different election districts. If so, then the Dems have got you beaten, because that means you're willing to accept as "understandable" the most outrageous vote fraud.
Quote from: mdgiles on November 12, 2012, 04:32:58 PM
Does anyone here actually accept that Romney didn't get at least one vote, in 59 different election districts. If so, then the Dems have got you beaten, because that means you're willing to accept as "understandable" the most outrageous vote fraud.
I don't accept it. I think the cheating was wide spread and coordinated.
Unfortunately, what we think doesn't matter. Not in any meaningful way.
The DNC is full of liars and cheaters, and the GOP is full of spineless cowards. Where do we go from here?
Quote from: RightIsRight on November 12, 2012, 03:46:01 PM
Did you really want some non-drinking square named Willard as president anyways? Obama is no black jesus, but at least he's the devil we know.
Ummm yes.
Better than a druggie. You seem to think people that respect their bodies are to be viewed a freaks?
Quote from: RightIsRight on November 12, 2012, 03:46:01 PM
Did you really want some non-drinking square named Willard as president anyways? Obama is no black jesus, but at least he's the devil we know.
First of all using alcohol as some sort of litmus test is really vapid and overall dumb. Secondly most of what Obama wrote in his books have turned out to be lies so no we do not know him.
Quote from: Solar on November 12, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
Ummm yes.
Better than a druggie. You seem to think people that respect their bodies are to be viewed a freaks?
This kid keeps calling Romney a square, a term I though died in 1964 and thinks this...
(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi39.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe157%2FBertspivey%2Fo2.jpg&hash=55b48dd3c43fb0325f98aaec87475a567b3a750a)
Is cool....
Now I am reading that 9 districts in Cleveland had zero votes for Romney as well.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/odd-romney-got-zero-votes-in-59-precincts-in-philly-9-in-ohio/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/odd-romney-got-zero-votes-in-59-precincts-in-philly-9-in-ohio/)
Quote from: JustKari on November 12, 2012, 07:27:37 PM
Now I am reading that 9 districts in Cleveland had zero votes for Romney as well.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/odd-romney-got-zero-votes-in-59-precincts-in-philly-9-in-ohio/ (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/odd-romney-got-zero-votes-in-59-precincts-in-philly-9-in-ohio/)
So. If the people in those precincts, that voted for Romney, were to come forward and testify under oath, we would not only have proof of cheating, but how much.
The sad part is, that if they were to testify, they would probably all be killed in drive-by shootings. :scared:
QuoteThe sad part is, that if they were to testify, they would probably all be killed in drive-by shootings.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
I expected this. But it is still funny.
Quote from: redlom xof on November 13, 2012, 04:53:19 AM
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
I expected this. But it is still funny.
Well, I sure am happy that you are happy but shouldn't you be saving some of that "popcorn" for the first of the year when you will be on the same diet that the rest of us will be on? It's called a starvation diet and when we get thru paying out the yazoo for taxes, you'll be hard pressed to find a bag of popcorn. :rolleyes:
Quote from: kramarat on November 13, 2012, 02:54:06 AM
So. If the people in those precincts, that voted for Romney, were to come forward and testify under oath, we would not only have proof of cheating, but how much.
The sad part is, that if they were to testify, they would probably all be killed in drive-by shootings. :scared:
Ever read Glenn Reynolds on "preference cascades"? The interesting thing is how people often self censor themselves, assuming that they - and they alone - differ with the "regime" And it would be "unhealthy" to make their disagreement known. Of course there were people who voted for Romney, if for no other reason than contrariness or personal dislike of the other guys supporters. BUT, they still have to live in the same neighborhood, so they would - no doubt - consider it the better part of valor, to keep their "heretical" voting patterns to themselves.
Quote from: Solar on November 12, 2012, 06:36:46 PM
Ummm yes.
Better than a druggie. You seem to think people that respect their bodies are to be viewed a freaks?
Are you suggesting Obama is a druggie? I suspect you're lying. I'm also positive. You're welcome to prove me wrong though.
Quote from: RightIsRight on November 13, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
Are you suggesting Obama is a druggie? I suspect you're lying. I'm also positive. You're welcome to prove me wrong though.
Of course he's a druggie.
Quote from: RightIsRight on November 13, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
Are you suggesting Obama is a druggie? I suspect you're lying. I'm also positive. You're welcome to prove me wrong though.
As a lib, you'll accept the NY Times
www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/world/.../24iht-dems.3272493.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/world/.../24iht-dems.3272493.html)
Quote from: RightIsRight on November 13, 2012, 07:11:41 PM
Are you suggesting Obama is a druggie? I suspect you're lying. I'm also positive. You're welcome to prove me wrong though.
He admitted it. Are you calling Husein a liar?
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 07:43:17 PM
He admitted it. Are you calling Husein a liar?
He lied about everything else in his books..
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 13, 2012, 07:46:33 PM
He lied about everything else in his books..
:lol: :lol:
Good point, maybe he's actually as straight as Mitt, but lied to look cool, so lib's like Rightisright would vote for him.
Apparently it worked. :laugh:
As a wise man once said, if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull shit.
Quote from: JustKari on November 11, 2012, 08:50:08 AM
OH alone had over 40,000 machines removed due to this problem, none of it noticed until after the vote was well underway.
Sounds like a sour grapes story, if you ask me. When are you guys going to grow a pair and MOVE ON.
OMG, If WE didn't win there must be something wrong.
Well maybe your got your heads too far in the sand?
Funny how I can find NO NEWS about this earth shattering bit of news.
40,000 machine should have a story somewhere.
got some links?
I would love to read up on this. I think we need to go back to paper ballots.
QuoteI thought it was funny the night of the election that the Obama camp would claim victory over OH before it even closed, no poll is that good.
Since the polls were WAY in Obama's favor and Romney the idiot with his "JEEP going to China" comment and "Let Detroit go Bankrupt". Claiming Ohio early didn't take much brains to figure out.
Even FOX news was calling it, while Karl Rove had a meltdown.
As long as there are irregularities they should be investigated.
You know, if you have a question about links, all you have to do is enter key phrases into google and you'll get the links you ask US to provide you with.
I'm not going thru all your brainwashed statements from MSLSD and HuffPo, but I will this one...
and Romney the idiot with his "JEEP going to China" commentDo you ever actually research anything, or do you just soak up whatever Chris Matthews tells you to think?
The fact is, Romney's comment was a reference to Bloomberg News:
QuoteFiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises
By Craig Trudell - 2012-10-22T15:10:54Z
Fiat SpA (F), majority owner of Chrysler Group LLC, plans to return Jeep output to China and may eventually make all of its models in that country, according to the head of both automakers' operations in the region. Bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-21/fiat-says-china-may-build-all-jeep-models-as-suv-demand-climbs.html)
Quote from: kramarat on November 12, 2012, 05:36:22 AM
This was a common problem in the swing states. I'm sure it wouldn't have been so easily brushed off if Obama votes were switched to Romney votes.
Actually there are several cases of this reported as well, when Obama votes switched to Romney.
"Pa. machine switched vote from Obama to Romney"
Read more: http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Pa-machine-switched-vote-from-Obama-to-Romney-4012470.php#ixzz2CAUxxBGP (http://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Pa-machine-switched-vote-from-Obama-to-Romney-4012470.php#ixzz2CAUxxBGP)
Quotehttp://theintelhub.com/2012/10/24/voter-fraud-north-carolina-residents-select-romney-but-vote-comes-up-for-obama/ (http://theintelhub.com/2012/10/24/voter-fraud-north-carolina-residents-select-romney-but-vote-comes-up-for-obama/)
FROM THE ARTICLE you have listed.
"County officials have claimed that the issue has been fixed, that there is no conspiracy, and that it is a problem that regularly occurs during early voting."
"It's not a conspiracy it's just a machine that needs to be corrected," said Guilford County Board of Elections Director George Gilbert."
But You RIGHTY's like to go straight to CONSPIRACY!
Quotehttp://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Voting-machines-switch-Romney-votes-to-Obama/m9dR8WDjbUKX8OFu4meIFQ.cspx (http://www.cbs42.com/content/localnews/story/Voting-machines-switch-Romney-votes-to-Obama/m9dR8WDjbUKX8OFu4meIFQ.cspx)
More about this breaking news from Colorado
"The Pueblo Clerk & Recorder, on the other hand, says there's no conspiracy going on. Gilbert Ortiz said, "We don't feel it's an error, we feel like that person that was voting made a mistake when they were voting. We feel like our voting machines are working correctly and there's no voting error in Pueblo."
The machines were calibrated before the election and inspected by both Democratic and Republican election judges.
Other voters say they got through the process just fine. Darryl Gonzales told News 5, "I think it's a total Republican agenda to make it look like people were cheating. You have several chances to go back, review before you cast your ballot."
Quotehttp://www.examiner.com/article/voting-machines-kansas-ohio-reportedly-changing-romney-votes-to-obama (http://www.examiner.com/article/voting-machines-kansas-ohio-reportedly-changing-romney-votes-to-obama)
THIS is the same story about Ohio. So if you find 2 stories about the same small incident, does THAT make it twice as big?
Quotehttp://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/03/Electronic-Voting-Machines-In-Battleground-States-Switching-Romney-Votes-For-Obama (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/03/Electronic-Voting-Machines-In-Battleground-States-Switching-Romney-Votes-For-Obama)
sighting Breitbart as a source is like sighting Karl Rove. Not very reliable.
Didn't Karl think it was going to be a LANDSLIDE?
Has Breitbart put out that EARTH SHATTERING video he claimed was going to bring down the Obama administration?
Been waiting a long time for that.
Quote from: Yawn on November 13, 2012, 07:21:20 PM
As a lib, you'll accept the NY Times
www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/world/.../24iht-dems.3272493.html (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/24/world/.../24iht-dems.3272493.html)
Link doesn't work. Learn how to use the internetz.
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2012, 07:43:17 PM
He admitted it. Are you calling Husein a liar?
The fact that someone may have tried drugs years ago does not make them a "druggie" in the here and now.
Oh Repugnicans...
Quote from: RightIsRight on November 13, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
Link doesn't work. Learn how to use the internetz.
Learn how to spellz...
This kid is becoming a problem.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 13, 2012, 09:24:30 PM
This kid is becoming a problem.
If he keeps it up, I see Eric Estrada in his future soon...
Quote from: JustKari on November 12, 2012, 07:50:15 AM
http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/ (http://www.politico.com/2012-election/results/president/pennsylvania/)
Thought you guys would find this interesting, not a single vote cast in Philly for Romney...not one. What are the chances?
From YOUR link.
I think the chances are ZERO.
Philadelphia 98.6% Reporting B. Obama (i) Dem 85.2% 557,024
M. Romney GOP 14.1% 91,840
G. Johnson Lib 0.4% 2,721
J. Stein Grn 0.3% 2,013
Perhaps it's time for a reality check.
Quote from: Yawn on November 12, 2012, 12:29:09 PM
Rush made me think I made a mistake. At first he agreed that Obama won zero states requiring photo ID. He then backtracked using Virginia as an example. According to my map below, he was right the first time. Obummer won no state requiring photo ID. It's the least all states should require.
What about FLORIDA, Yawn.
Voter fraud is all in your warped mind, Yawn.
Link me to some CONVICTED voter fraud cases.
There must be hundreds of them, thousands of them, by the way you talk.
Or is it all just conjecture from the wing nuts.
Why does it not concern you that millions of fellow citizens were at risk of loosing their right to vote, due to the voter laws enacted, almost exclusively by GOP governors?
"Over 750,000 Pennsylvanians Could Be Disenfranchised By Voter ID Law"
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/05/511205/over-750000-pennsylvanians-could-be-disenfranchised-by-voter-id-law/?mobile=nc (http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/07/05/511205/over-750000-pennsylvanians-could-be-disenfranchised-by-voter-id-law/?mobile=nc)
"Voter ID Laws Could Disenfranchise 1 Million Young Minority Voters: Study"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/voter-id-laws- (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/12/voter-id-laws-)
"Voter ID Laws Could Disenfranchise 5 Million and Cost Taxpayers Millions "
http://www.politicususa.com/voter-id-laws-disenfranchise-5-million-cost.htmlminorities_n_1878893.html (http://www.politicususa.com/voter-id-laws-disenfranchise-5-million-cost.htmlminorities_n_1878893.html)
As long as it's Democrats and liberals you are keeping from the polls, that's good for you, right Yawn?
Quote from: Yawn on November 12, 2012, 02:33:33 PM
Sections of Philadelphia. If it's not fraud but simply a RACIAL thing, that brings up a whole new set of problems. Can that group be trusted with the vote if they're 100% tied to such an anti-American idiotology?
In 59 Philadelphia voting divisions, Mitt Romney got zero votes (http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20121112_In_59_Philadelphia_voting_wards__Mitt_Romney_got_zero_votes.html)
do we know if these precincts use e-voting machines?
it's very hard to change paper ballots.
e-voting machines can be hacked and votes can be flipped. It would still be very difficult to do without getting caught but it is possible. And some e-voting machines have no paper trail.
QuoteActually there are several cases of this reported as well, when Obama votes switched to Romney.
"Pa. machine switched vote from Obama to Romney"
I knew that one was going to come up.........
If I was part of the Obama cheat team, I would tell the poll workers, that for every 10-20 machines that were rigged for Obama, make sure to rig 1 for Romney. That way, when people start raising eyebrows, we wil be able to say that the problem worked in both directions.
Quote from: kramarat on November 14, 2012, 02:26:50 AM
I knew that one was going to come up.........
If I was part of the Obama cheat team, I would tell the poll workers, that for every 10-20 machines that were rigged for Obama, make sure to rig 1 for Romney. That way, when people start raising eyebrows, we wil be able to say that the problem worked in both directions.
Yeah, but that is because you would be concerned about getting caught - Obama isn't bothered with such trivialities!
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 14, 2012, 06:24:53 AM
Yeah, but that is because you would be concerned about getting caught - Obama isn't bothered with such trivialities!
That's what he's got the DNC for. They may be completely dishonest, but they aren't stupid.
Since this ZERO vote thing happened in 08 as well, seems like it's normal.
These are poor areas and GOP policies SUCK. Why would they vote against their own best interest?
Medicare Vouchers, gutting SS, giving the rich more tax cuts.
that's just too hard to not vote for!
"In 2008, McCain got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions. That was a big increase from 2004, when George W. Bush was blanked in just five divisions."
http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-13/news/35069785_1_romney-supporters-mitt-romney-voter-id-law/3 (http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-13/news/35069785_1_romney-supporters-mitt-romney-voter-id-law/3)
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 14, 2012, 10:01:21 AM
Since this ZERO vote thing happened in 08 as well, seems like it's normal.
These are poor areas and GOP policies SUCK. Why would they vote against their own best interest?
Medicare Vouchers, gutting SS, giving the rich more tax cuts.
that's just too hard to not vote for!
"In 2008, McCain got zero votes in 57 Philadelphia voting divisions. That was a big increase from 2004, when George W. Bush was blanked in just five divisions."
http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-13/news/35069785_1_romney-supporters-mitt-romney-voter-id-law/3 (http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-13/news/35069785_1_romney-supporters-mitt-romney-voter-id-law/3)
Interesting. So don't you find it racist and bigoted to hold the belief that any ethnic group would all act in a monolithic manner. I find that's falling back on old of insulting stereotypes of
"those" people all thinking, and all behaving, perhaps even all "looking" alike.
Quote from: mdgiles on November 14, 2012, 10:33:52 AM
Interesting. So don't you find it racist and bigoted to hold the belief that any ethnic group would all act in a monolithic manner. I find that's falling back on old of insulting stereotypes of "those" people all thinking, and all behaving, perhaps even all "looking" alike.
Exactly, he would rather fall back on profiling, than admit that he actually proves my point. Obama is smart enough to keep his fingers out of it, Axelrod is dirty enough to dig in up to shoulders, and he was campaign manager in both 08 and 12.
Quote from: mdgiles on November 14, 2012, 10:33:52 AM
Interesting. So don't you find it racist and bigoted to hold the belief that any ethnic group would all act in a monolithic manner. I find that's falling back on old of insulting stereotypes of "those" people all thinking, and all behaving, perhaps even all "looking" alike.
Because Romney gets toasted, you cons call it racists?
Perhaps they voted for THEIR benefit and not for some guy who is obviously a racist, silver spoon baby, who LIES constantly and wants to tax you but give tax cuts to the rich!
Why did you vote for Romney? Because you thought he would benefit YOU, if elected.
People in Philly, no different.
the fact that you can't or won't accept it, is part of the reason Romney LOST.
Lack of intellect.
Quote from: JustKari on November 14, 2012, 11:02:59 AM
Exactly, he would rather fall back on profiling,
Tell me con, how my pointing out that 57 districts voted ZERO for McCain, is falling back on profiling?
Do I need a foil hat to understand this comment?
Quotethan admit that he actually proves my point.
Tell me how I proved your point?
You make little sense.
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 14, 2012, 11:14:55 AM
Because Romney gets toasted, you cons call it racists?
Perhaps they voted for THEIR benefit and not for some guy who is obviously a racist, silver spoon baby, who LIES constantly and wants to tax you but give tax cuts to the rich!
Why did you vote for Romney? Because you thought he would benefit YOU, if elected.
People in Philly, no different.
the fact that you can't or won't accept it, is part of the reason Romney LOST.
Lack of intellect.
No, I call it racist when you believe that
any group of people are all going to act in a like manner, just because they belong to the same economic, social or ethnic group.
What's really saddening, is that someone who believes himself to be "progressive" would indulge in the type of thinking you folks normally accuse us "Archie Bunkers" on the right of engaging in.
Unless - of course - your admitting to the right wing belief that progressives are incapable of seeing people as individuals?
Quote from: mdgiles on November 14, 2012, 11:42:53 AM
No, I call it racist when you believe that any group of people are all going to act in a like manner, just because they belong to the same economic, social or ethnic group.
DUDE, you cons all vote in lock step!
How is that any different than a getto neighborhood all voting the same.
Point scored, Liberal!
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 17, 2012, 09:23:34 PM
DUDE, you cons all vote in lock step!
How is that any different than a getto neighborhood all voting the same.
Point scored, Liberal!
Actually, that is not true. Unlike dems, cons will sit out an election if the person running is far enough away from what we want (McCain) OR in the case of libertarians who are considerd conservative, vote third party in measurable amounts. The only group that seems to consistently vote in lock step, no matter how horrible the candidate, is the dems.
It's funny how when someone on this site backs up their arguments with solid facts and does the research to prove it they become a "PROBLEM" if their view is in opposition to whom their corresponding with.
Quote from: hoosier on November 18, 2012, 12:51:56 AM
It's funny how when someone on this site backs up their arguments with solid facts and does the research to prove it they become a "PROBLEM" if their view is in opposition to whom their corresponding with.
It's funny how some loser with two posts, can get a self inflated sense of importance when taking pot shots, yet never actually taking solid aim.
But that's pretty much the M/O of every lib, just throw shit against the wall in hopes it's adherent.
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 17, 2012, 09:23:34 PM
DUDE, you cons all vote in lock step!
How is that any different than a getto neighborhood all voting the same.
Point scored, Liberal!
Had you spent any time at this board, you'd be well aware that cons differ on any number of topics. The variety of opinion during the Republican primary debates, and over elections is always vast. It's one of the problems the right has - drawing together these vastly different elements during the election process.
Quote from: mdgiles on November 18, 2012, 05:30:55 AM
Had you spent any time at this board, you'd be well aware that cons differ on any number of topics. The variety of opinion during the Republican primary debates, and over elections is always vast. It's one of the problems the right has - drawing together these vastly different elements during the election process.
He does have a point. Most of us voted for McCain even though we didn't didn't want to.
Unfortunately for him, the point he made has nothing to do with this conversation. We're talking entire voting precincts, in which not one person voted for Romney, which seems extremely strange.
If he wants to make a point and clap himself on the back, I'd like to see the maps of precincts in which Romney got all of the votes and not one person voted for Obama. Which would also be very strange...............but I don't think it happened.
Quote from: kramarat on November 18, 2012, 05:46:02 AM
He does have a point. Most of us voted for McCain even though we didn't didn't want to.
Unfortunately for him, the point he made has nothing to do with this conversation. We're talking entire voting precincts, in which not one person voted for Romney, which seems extremely strange.
If he wants to make a point and clap himself on the back, I'd like to see the maps of precincts in which Romney got all of the votes and not one person voted for Obama. Which would also be very strange...............but I don't think it happened.
Imagine Romney had won, and there were 59 precincts in Utah, where Obama got not one vote. Would we be hearing about that day and night or what?
Quote from: mdgiles on November 18, 2012, 06:04:34 AM
Imagine Romney had won, and there were 59 precincts in Utah, where Obama got not one vote. Would we be hearing about that day and night or what?
The democrats would be recounting votes for the next 2 years, and the media would be a permanent fixture in those precincts.
Quote from: kramarat on November 18, 2012, 05:46:02 AM
He does have a point. Most of us voted for McCain even though we didn't didn't want to.
Here I was thinking Kram has come to his senses.
THEN you go on to say crazy things again.
QuoteUnfortunately for him, the point he made has nothing to do with this conversation. We're talking entire voting precincts, in which not one person voted for Romney, which seems extremely strange.
Since you guys still don't accept that Romney LIED his way to defeat i don't find it hard to believe that you don't accept this either.
You know Bush got ZERO votes in some of these districts as well.
You GOP need to get your acts together and fix this. Black people HATE you, as the vote shows.
QuoteIf he wants to make a point and clap himself on the back, I'd like to see the maps of precincts in which Romney got all of the votes and not one person voted for Obama. Which would also be very strange...............but I don't think it happened.
There may be, but WE (liberals) don't care.
I have better things to do than search for conspiracy issues.
THAT is a conservative JOB!
Perhaps Romney got his ASS handed to him in Philly because HIS message SUCKED to anyone that is NOT White.
That thought too painful to accept?
59 districts doing a coordinated fraud makes MORE sense to you?
Were there NO GOP observers there? What NO black GOP in Philly?
So maybe that answers the question right there.
There are NO GOP blacks (or whites who dared to go there) to observe the election in Philly's 59 districts.
It's all the conservatives own fault. Time to Grow a pair and deal with IT!
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 19, 2012, 12:34:43 PM
Here I was thinking Kram has come to his senses.
THEN you go on to say crazy things again.
Since you guys still don't accept that Romney LIED his way to defeat i don't find it hard to believe that you don't accept this either.
You know Bush got ZERO votes in some of these districts as well.
You GOP need to get your acts together and fix this. Black people HATE you, as the vote shows.
There may be, but WE (liberals) don't care.
I have better things to do than search for conspiracy issues.
THAT is a conservative JOB!
Perhaps Romney got his ASS handed to him in Philly because HIS message SUCKED to anyone that is NOT White.
That thought too painful to accept?
59 districts doing a coordinated fraud makes MORE sense to you?
Were there NO GOP observers there? What NO black GOP in Philly?
So maybe that answers the question right there.
There are NO GOP blacks (or whites who dared to go there) to observe the election in Philly's 59 districts.
It's all the conservatives own fault. Time to Grow a pair and deal with IT!
And Obama lied his way to victory?
QuotePerhaps Romney got his ASS handed to him in Philly because HIS message SUCKED to anyone that is NOT White.
That thought too painful to accept?
So only whites believe in being productive and useful citizens who CONTRIBUTE THEIR FAIR SHARE? That may be true in these areas of large urban centers, but it's hardly true of ALL minorities.
And you really don't see how RACIST! the liberal really is, do you?
Quote from: Yawn on November 19, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
So only whites believe in being productive and useful citizens who CONTRIBUTE THEIR FAIR SHARE? That may be true in these areas of large urban centers, but it's hardly true of ALL minorities.
And you really don't see how RACIST! the liberal really is, do you?
Interesting.
Not trying to derail the thread but a quick side trip, maybe:
What is the definition of a minority?
Responding to this:
QuotePerhaps Romney got his ASS handed to him in Philly because HIS message SUCKED to anyone that is NOT White.
That thought too painful to accept?
Sorry you missed it.
:lol: :lol: Just realized, that I'm accused of "derailing" my own thread! Thanks for the laugh
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 19, 2012, 12:40:46 PM
And Obama lied his way to victory?
Well no he didn't.
The "Fact checking" organizations ripped Romney a new one, every debate along with a large number of his ads.
the JEEP lie being why he lost Ohio, IMHO.
The worst Obama ever got is twisting some facts or leaving certain details out of the discussion.
Shall i start listing the 27 lies from the first debate?
Quote from: Yawn on November 19, 2012, 01:07:35 PM
So only whites believe in being productive and useful citizens who CONTRIBUTE THEIR FAIR SHARE?
NO SILLY CONSERVATIVE.
these kind of thoughts is why you guys are scratching your head, going
"Why did we loose???"
You guys are SO out of touch with reality, all the while thinking you have your finger on the pulse of America!
Ya right!
AND romney is going to win in a Landslide.
Don't you get IT, yet?
THEY LIED TO YOU!!
Quote from: Yawn on November 10, 2012, 05:08:53 PM
I hate to sound like an angry lib from 2000, but there's NO doubt in my mind. Thanks to leads from a few here and other places, I have NO doubt that this election was "won" through fraud. Within a few days I'll have enough evidence gathered that I'll be comfortable with contacting some of the Tea Party orgs and the decent Congressmen and women.
This needs to be exposed and even if it changes nothing for the next 2 to 4 years, I want a large segment of the AMERICAN People to see Obama as illegitimate. I'm disgusted with this guy and his party.
I will boycott UNION made products in support of AMERICA. These Obama supporters will not make another dime off me! :angry:
Please do share this "evidence" with the forum. We are all curious.
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 19, 2012, 06:36:04 PM
Well no he didn't.
The "Fact checking" organizations ripped Romney a new one, every debate along with a large number of his ads.
the JEEP lie being why he lost Ohio, IMHO.
The worst Obama ever got is twisting some facts or leaving certain details out of the discussion.
Shall i start listing the 27 lies from the first debate?
Funny, factcheck.org lists a ton of lies from your Great One, they even had to stretch to get the "lies" equal by claiming that because Romney couldn't explain his tax plan in his two minute allotted time, even though Obama didn't show any plan until after the third debate. AND, the Jeep statement was not a falsehood, a division of Jeep is moving to China, how long (oh wise one :rolleyes:) do you think it will take government motors to realize it is cheaper to build all of them in China once the lines ate already there?
Quote"Perhaps Romney got his ASS handed to him in Philly because HIS message SUCKED to anyone that is NOT White."
I have to assume that you yourself are black (like I've been for all of my 65 years). If not then this is just another case of a racist, arrogant, condescending, "honkie" - and I hope you take the use of that phrase as an insult; telling black people how he believes they should think! :mad:
Quote from: mdgiles on November 20, 2012, 09:40:24 AM
I have to assume that you yourself are black (like I've been for all of my 65 years). If not then this is just another case of a racist, arrogant, condescending, "honkie" - and I hope you take the use of that phrase as an insult; telling black people how he believes they should think! :mad:
You have to admit that you are the most minor of minorities.
A conservative Black man? You might as well be an Albino as well. Just as common.
Romney's message was not conducive to anyone with a decent IQ, regardless of color. but they effected the minorities MORE than the middle class Honkies.
BUT, Our discussion here is about WHY Romney got NO votes in certain districts in Philly.
Because he message SUCKED!
Not because of a MASSIVE voter fraud that no one has any proof of, just plenty of whining!
Pathetic.
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 20, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
You have to admit that you are the most minor of minorities.
A conservative Black man? You might as well be an Albino as well. Just as common.
Romney's message was not conducive to anyone with a decent IQ, regardless of color. but they effected the minorities MORE than the middle class Honkies.
BUT, Our discussion here is about WHY Romney got NO votes in certain districts in Philly.
Because he message SUCKED!
Not because of a MASSIVE voter fraud that no one has any proof of, just plenty of whining!
Pathetic.
What was his message?
Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 20, 2012, 09:26:15 PM
You have to admit that you are the most minor of minorities.
A conservative Black man? You might as well be an Albino as well. Just as common.
Romney's message was not conducive to anyone with a decent IQ, regardless of color. but they effected the minorities MORE than the middle class Honkies.
BUT, Our discussion here is about WHY Romney got NO votes in certain districts in Philly.
Because he message SUCKED!
Not because of a MASSIVE voter fraud that no one has any proof of, just plenty of whining!
Pathetic.
Arrogant POS aren't you. You're not black, but you know just how black people think. And you know this because? Oh that's right you believe that most of us think alike. What's so stunning is that you express that opinion, seemingly without any idea of how racist that sounds. Note; the cons heard about Romney not getting one vote in 59 precincts, and immediately said:
That doesn't sound right. Even black inner city precincts consists of individuals. And such unanimity on the part of any large group individuals doesn't past the "smell test". Of course for you to admit that would mean owning up to election fraud on a massive level. And being a progressive, you find it impossible to see what's right in front of your nose. I'll bet you believe Joe Stalin, Saddam Hussein, and Kim Jong Il were actually that popular! :rolleyes:
I'm sorry I ever posted in this thread, however, I would like to make a few comments then go away from this thread.
1. Obama got fewer votes in 2012 than McCain got in 2008.
2. I do, and have always, believe that the Democrat Party is instilled with voter and election fraud. It's in their DNA.
3. If, despite all the fraud, as many Republican/Conservative voters had voted for Romney as they did for McCain, then Mr. Romney would be the President-elect.
So next time, if there is one, I would suggest that the Republican Party spend less on political ads and campaigning and a whole lot more on the "
ground game", i.e., getting the vote out.
Oh, yes, and do remember that this is America where so many voters think an election is just like Dancing with the Stars or American Idol, a popularity contest. So get your candidate on every TV talk and celebrity show you can. It would also help to get on your knees and kiss the ass of the MSM.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 20, 2012, 10:05:29 PM
What was his message?
So this would be proof of how ignorant you are?
Well he did change his position every other day/hr, so which message are you interested IN?
Quote from: mdgiles on November 21, 2012, 09:33:52 AM
Arrogant POS aren't you. You're not black, but you know just how black people think. And you know this because? Oh that's right you believe that most of us think alike. What's so stunning is that you express that opinion, seemingly without any idea of how racist that sounds. Note; the cons heard about Romney not getting one vote in 59 precincts, and immediately said: That doesn't sound right. Even black inner city precincts consists of individuals. And such unanimity on the part of any large group individuals doesn't past the "smell test". Of course for you to admit that would mean owning up to election fraud on a massive level. And being a progressive, you find it impossible to see what's right in front of your nose. I'll bet you believe Joe Stalin, Saddam Hussein, and Kim Jong Il were actually that popular! :rolleyes:
Well silly conservative, I do know a number of black. all liberal leaning.
I do know a conservative Jew as well.
IF there was massive voter fraud as YOU allude to, show me some stories about the investigation, the arrests?
Anything in a REAL news paper.
Quote from: Yawn on November 10, 2012, 05:08:53 PM
I hate to sound like an angry lib from 2000, but there's NO doubt in my mind. Thanks to leads from a few here and other places, I have NO doubt that this election was "won" through fraud. Within a few days I'll have enough evidence gathered that I'll be comfortable with contacting some of the Tea Party orgs and the decent Congressmen and women.
How's the PROOF on the massive voter fraud coming along, YAWN?
Quote from: hoosier on November 11, 2012, 09:50:52 PM
I was wondering when the crazies would start with this. Can't handle reality so try to alter reality instead. Instead of focusing on desperate theories why don't you focus on what this party can do to turn it around. Talk about your sore losers wow. Good bye!
Not nearly as crazy as 2000 when the left had a clear disconnect with reality. At least we all know what a chad is now. :rolleyes:
Everyone knows why the contemptible SOCIOPATH Monumental Mendacious Racist, Commie/Socialist FRAUD Obozo won: This WORST PRESIDENT in America's History won because of MASSIVE CORRUPTION never before experienced in American history: FLAGRANT Presidential Payola to his cronies, OPEN BRIBERY and ENTITLEMENTS to those who'd vote for him ...... no doubt RUINING OUR COUNTRY by changing the whole character of voting procedure for many years to come.