And we have a handful of compliant RINO War Hawks.
These people will do whatever they can to stay in power. They know if they can make a third of the country see Russia as our enemy, they'll support a war, despite the fact that the CCP is our real enemy.
I look at all the shit the left has pulled in just the last year and a half, all designed to manipulate opinion, and the sheep buy it, not all, but just enough for their media to create the illusion the left is in power.
They are not, we, the people hold the actual power.
The left has destroyed everything they touched, be it race, femininity, children, masculinity, and on and on, anything that makes for a functioning society.
Of course we all knows this is planned on behalf of the global Marxist elite.
But here's the question. During Nam, the left was able to form the illusion the entire Nation wanted to end the war.
Sure, there were protests, but it was the media that fed the fire. We could have won, but history shows that was never part of the plan.
The left created turmoil, even back then the left was pitting one generation against the other and if they could machinate a protracted war with Russia, they could wear down the American people enough that we would detest a war with the CCP.
During this war over Ukraine, the CCP would simply slip in and seize Taiwan.
So does anyone else see what these Commie fucks are doing? By they, I mean both party's?
It would appear the commies took a page from recent history, wouldn't it....
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2022, 07:33:56 AMAnd we have a handful of compliant RINO War Hawks.
These people will do whatever they can to stay in power. They know if they can make a third of the country see Russia as our enemy, they'll support a war, despite the fact that the CCP is our real enemy.
I look at all the shit the left has pulled in just the last year and a half, all designed to manipulate opinion, and the sheep buy it, not all, but just enough for their media to create the illusion the left is in power.
They are not, we, the people hold the actual power.
The left has destroyed everything they touched, be it race, femininity, children, masculinity, and on and on, anything that makes for a functioning society.
Of course we all knows this is planned on behalf of the global Marxist elite.
But here's the question. During Nam, the left was able to form the illusion the entire Nation wanted to end the war.
Sure, there were protests, but it was the media that fed the fire. We could have won, but history shows that was never part of the plan.
The left created turmoil, even back then the left was pitting one generation against the other and if they could machinate a protracted war with Russia, they could wear down the American people enough that we would detest a war with the CCP.
During this war over Ukraine, the CCP would simply slip in and seize Taiwan.
So does anyone else see what these Commie fucks are doing? By they, I mean both party's?
It would appear the commies took a page from recent history, wouldn't it....
Don't for get about Iran. Dubai is now dealing with rocket exploding in their skies. The North Korean will want their slice of the war pie. Now right on cue it's being reported that the Chinese are sending 39 warplanes to Taiwan.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-sends-39-warplanes-taiwan-largest-year-82432872
Quote from: Bronx on January 24, 2022, 10:32:06 AMDon't for get about Iran. Dubai is now dealing with rocket exploding in their skies. The North Korean will want their slice of the war pie. Now right on cue it's being reported that the Chinese are sending 39 warplanes to Taiwan.
https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/china-sends-39-warplanes-taiwan-largest-year-82432872
That's the point, this is all being done to end US dominance, militarily and monetarily on a global scale.
Everyone knows all of the shit they're pulling is complete BS, yet they're doing it anyway, without even hinting of an end goal, because they have none.
War is failed politics, and we all know the left is pushing us into war, with no end goal because you can't bluff war, especially where a country has not gotten the consent of the people.
I can't think of one person who wants war with Russia, if anything, everyone wants peace with them, they're us, and we are they.
A lot of this is about protecting evil interests. Putin would be happy to take over Ukraine. Putin is evil himself, but he is evil with standards. Putin sees the evil of child trafficking and hates it. The Ukraine is an international hub for child trafficking with tunnel systems in place. If you are paying attention you realize that walls were put up around the White House 10 days ago...effectively hiding any view into the WH grounds. Why? The tunnels under the White House are being demolished as I type. The walls are to hide views, not for protection. If they were for protection, the wall would encircle the entire building.
Add Biden's laptop connections to Burisma and Ukraine money laundering connections that have corrupted our Congress halls and you wonder how far this will go.
A protracted war between the United States and Russia or china would mean the war would last 6 hours instead of four hours. Granted, there would be a conventional lead up that may go on for
for possibly two days. We talk about war like it is 1944 again. Soviet and later Russian strategic doctrine does not differentiate between conventional and nuclear weapons. The US can defeat both Russia and China simultaneously. Then, in the words of President Kennedy during the Cuban missile crisis, "the fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouth." Before committing to war with Russia and /or China, the question, "Is this the hill you want to die on?" has a literal meaning. Fortunately, every leader of a nuclear power, including the greatest homocidal maniac in history, Joseph Stalin, has been keenly aware of the result.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 24, 2022, 11:43:53 AMA protracted war between the United States and Russia or china would mean the war would last 6 hours instead of four hours. Granted, there would be a conventional lead up that may go on for
for possibly two days. We talk about war like it is 1944 again. Soviet and later Russian strategic doctrine does not differentiate between conventional and nuclear weapons. The US can defeat both Russia and China simultaneously. Then, in the words of President Kennedy during the Cuban missile crisis, "the fruits of victory would be ashes in our mouth." Before committing to war with Russia and /or China, the question, "Is this the hill you want to die on?" has a literal meaning. Fortunately, every leader of a nuclear power, including the greatest homocidal maniac in history, Joseph Stalin, has been keenly aware of the result.
There is no end goal of winning a war against Russia, this is to be a protracted war, another Cold War just like we had with the USSR.
This is all for the benefit of the CCP and distraction for the DNC and nothing else. The Globalist Elites with the help of leftists in both party's are helping the CCP seize Taiwan.
Could we win a double front war with Russia and the CCP? Probably, but make no mistake, they must attack us first and it would have to unify the country against our nemesis for the country to get behind it like happened in WWII.
We don't have anything even remotely close, Russia has done nothing to provoke us. This entire thing is a false flag created by the left.
Our true enemy is the CCP!
Quote from: Solar on January 24, 2022, 11:58:56 AMThere is no end goal of winning a war against Russia, this is to be a protracted war, another Cold War just like we had with the USSR.
This is all for the benefit of the CCP and distraction for the DNC and nothing else. The Globalist Elites with the help of leftists in both party's are helping the CCP seize Taiwan.
Could we win a double front war with Russia and the CCP? Probably, but make no mistake, they must attack us first and it would have to unify the country against our nemesis for the country to get behind it like happened in WWII.
We don't have anything even remotely close, Russia has done nothing to provoke us. This entire thing is a false flag created by the left.
Our true enemy is the CCP!
The US would win, but there would be few, if anyone left in the US.
Why is China, your second largest trading partner after Canada, your enemy? It isn't like they are the only despotic government you have dealings with.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 24, 2022, 12:19:02 PMThe US would win, but there would be few, if anyone left in the US.
Why is China, your second largest trading partner after Canada, your enemy? It isn't like they are the only despotic government you have dealings with.
To answer that would require you to understand the difference in Trump trade policy of America First, vs the DNC trade policy of America second, or rather last.
Will Putin call their bluff? If so, then what?
Maybe that was the entire idea from the start so as to delegitimize the US military strength?
Just pondering ideas because this whole thing stinks to the core!
NATO Allies send more ships, jets to enhance deterrence and defence in eastern Europe
NATO Allies are putting forces on standby and sending additional ships and fighter jets to NATO deployments in eastern Europe, reinforcing Allied deterrence and defence as Russia continues its military build-up in and around Ukraine.
In the past days, a number of Allies have made announcements regarding current or upcoming deployments. Denmark is sending a frigate to the Baltic Sea and is set to deploy four F-16 fighter jets to Lithuania in support of NATO's long-standing air-policing mission in the region. Spain is sending ships to join NATO naval forces and is considering sending fighter jets to Bulgaria. France has expressed its readiness to send troops to Romania under NATO command. The Netherlands is sending two F-35 fighter aircraft to Bulgaria from April to support NATO's air-policing activities in the region, and is putting a ship and land-based units on standby for NATO's Response Force. The United States has also made clear that it is considering increasing its military presence in the eastern part of the Alliance.
NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said: "I welcome Allies contributing additional forces to NATO. NATO will continue to take all necessary measures to protect and defend all Allies, including by reinforcing the eastern part of the Alliance. We will always respond to any deterioration of our security environment, including through strengthening our collective defence."
NATO is a defensive Alliance. In response to Russia's illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014, NATO increased its presence in the eastern part of the alliance, including with four multinational battlegroups in Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland. These units, led by the United Kingdom, Canada, Germany and the United States respectively, are multinational, and combat-ready. Their presence makes clear that an attack on one Ally will be considered an attack on the whole Alliance. There were no NATO forces in the eastern part of the Alliance before 2014.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_191040.htm?selectedLocale=en
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 24, 2022, 12:19:02 PMThe US would win, but there would be few, if anyone left in the US.
Why is China, your second largest trading partner after Canada, your enemy? It isn't like they are the only despotic government you have dealings with.
They steal our technology, introduced a Bio weapon to our society which has been a blow to our economy, corrupt our politicians and very likely helped steal the last Presidential election. What else would we call them?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2022, 05:26:42 PMThey steal our technology, introduced a Bio weapon to our society which has been a blow to our economy, corrupt our politicians and very likely helped steal the last Presidential election. What else would we call them?
How does he not know all of this? :glare:
Meanwhile Kim Jong-un of North Korea has fired up their launching pads and are shooting rockets..... :popcorn:
Who's next....?
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/asia_pacific/2022-01-18/north-korea-tactical-guided-missile-strike-island-target-4329617.html
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on January 25, 2022, 05:26:42 PMThey steal our technology, introduced a Bio weapon to our society which has been a blow to our economy, corrupt our politicians and very likely helped steal the last Presidential election. What else would we call them?
Yes, they steal everybodies' technology. I spent several years logging incident reports of thousands of probes a week from China. So do the French, the Indians and Isrealiis, amongst others, including the CIA.
The rest, about the mythical "bio-weapon" and the "stolen" election, you will believe what you want to believe, as per your Creator endowed inalienable right.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 28, 2022, 01:23:57 PMYes, they steal everybodies' technology. I spent several years logging incident reports of thousands of probes a week from China. So do the French, the Indians and Isrealiis, amongst others, including the CIA.
The rest, about the mythical "bio-weapon" and the "stolen" election, you will believe what you want to believe, as per your Creator endowed inalienable right.
With all the evidence proving the contrary, will you come back and admit you were a fool for believing the media?
Quote from: Solar on January 28, 2022, 02:47:42 PMWith all the evidence proving the contrary, will you come back and admit you were a fool for believing the media?
If I see the evidence, I certainly will. :wink:
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 28, 2022, 03:10:53 PMIf I see the evidence, I certainly will. :wink:
It's there, but you won't see it in the media.
Wisconsin is already pulling Electoral votes, AZ is next, and Right on down the line.
Wanna guess the final outcome?
I'm patient. I like to wait for the actual verdict. :popcorn: If I determine I am wrong, you will be the first to know. I have an open mind.
Have a good weekend, everybody.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 28, 2022, 03:28:53 PMI'm patient. I like to wait for the actual verdict. :popcorn: If I determine I am wrong, you will be the first to know. I have an open mind.
Have a good weekend, everybody.
Instead of simply accepting the lefts narrative, how about looking at non leftist media for a change.
If you think you are being informed by the 6:00 news, you are sadly mistaken, it's all propaganda, all major networks are, with the exception of OANN.
Quote from: Solar on January 28, 2022, 03:47:42 PMWith all the evidence proving the contrary, will you come back and admit you were a fool for believing the media?
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 28, 2022, 03:10:53 PMIf I see the evidence, I certainly will. :wink:
https://hereistheevidence.com/
Quote from: je_freedom on January 29, 2022, 07:17:59 PMQuote from: Solar on January 28, 2022, 03:47:42 PM
With all the evidence proving the contrary, will you come back and admit you were a fool for believing the media?
https://hereistheevidence.com/
I guarantee you he won't accept the truth, he doesn't want the truth, it will destroy his narrative.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 28, 2022, 01:23:57 PMYes, they steal everybodies' technology. I spent several years logging incident reports of thousands of probes a week from China. So do the French, the Indians and Isrealiis, amongst others, including the CIA.
The rest, about the mythical "bio-weapon" and the "stolen" election, you will believe what you want to believe, as per your Creator endowed inalienable right.
Don't believe there was enough fraud to steal the election?
Arizona admits it. https://www.christianitydaily.com/articles/13429/20210929/here-s-what-the-arizona-election-audit-reveals-undeniable-voter-fraud-really-happened-and-christians-must-be-concerned.htm
Pennsylvania admits it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/28/pennsylvania-mail-voting-courts/
Michigan admits it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michigan-attorney-claims-explosive-evidence-found-in-antrim-county-2020-election-fraud-case/ar-BB1gRZMk
Georgia admits it. https://www.canyon-news.com/georgia-whistle-blower-admits-to-harvesting-ballots-in-2020/153882
There are enough electoral votes in just those states to steal the election. It was stolen, if you chose not to believe the evidence, fine, but it is not because there is no evidence out there to see, you just are not looking.
When the evidence is successfully tested in court, that is when I will believe it.
Just for the record, I spent over 2 months of my pension on this computer. I am not going to flush that down the toilet by clicking on any links on any forum.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 30, 2022, 11:03:33 AMWhen the evidence is successfully tested in court, that is when I will believe it.
Just for the record, I spent over 2 months of my pension on this computer. I am not going to flush that down the toilet by clicking on any links on any forum.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Both of these are your typical leftist media. Did you not even bother to look at the addresses? :rolleyes:
Pennsylvania admits it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/01/28/pennsylvania-mail-voting-courts/
Michigan admits it. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/michigan-attorney-claims-explosive-evidence-found-in-antrim-county-2020-election-fraud-case/ar-BB1gRZMk
Yes, I saw the addresses. It doesn't appear to show a court verdict. I am sure when the courts determine the election was stolen, I will post my statement saying "I agree, the election was stolen." I also see no need for you to reciprocate should the court have a different decision.
I do hope that you guys are not spending all your time on the internet when you should be getting out and actually working to get President Trump elected in 2024. Too many of his supporters in 2020 sat back and let him lose. Elections are won on the doorstep, not on the internet.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 30, 2022, 12:38:45 PMYes, I saw the addresses. It doesn't appear to show a court verdict. I am sure when the courts determine the election was stolen, I will post my statement saying "I agree, the election was stolen." I also see no need for you to reciprocate should the court have a different decision.
I do hope that you guys are not spending all your time on the internet when you should be getting out and actually working to get President Trump elected in 2024. Too many of his supporters in 2020 sat back and let him lose. Elections are won on the doorstep, not on the internet.
First off, use the quote function, you've been here long enough to know what the rules are!
Secondly, the election was stolen, had you even bothered to do your own research, no one would be laughing at your silly posts.
And third, we are working for Trump, we will be election watchers so the Marxists can't steal another election.
Don't forget, the DNC will be out of business after the Midterms...
Quote from: Solar on January 30, 2022, 12:44:48 PMFirst off, use the quote function, you've been here long enough to know what the rules are!
Secondly, the election was stolen, had you even bothered to do your own research, no one would be laughing at your silly posts.
And third, we are working for Trump, we will be election watchers so the Marxists can't steal another election.
Don't forget, the DNC will be out of business after the Midterms...
I leave the research up to the professional investigators who have far more resources than I have access to. They don't rely on the internet. They have access to the paper trail. If there is real evidence, they will present it in court and the court will decide. I am keeping an open mind.
I'm not certain what you mean by "election watchers." Each candidate will have scrutineers. What the candidates really need is canvassers to go door to door identifying the vote. You should be going into the campaign office who co-ordinates the canvassers. When the canvasser finds a voter who is waivering, the campaign office will send someone out to firm up their support.Then, there is the Election Day committee who gets every supporter into the voting booth. Secretary Clinton lost the 2016 election because the campaign thought they had it in the bag and they didn't get out the vote. President Trump's supporters in 2020 convinced themselves he was going win a landslide and, like "it's in the bag" is the kiss of death in politics. Obviously, I don't care who wins a US election, but it turns out President Trump was good for Canada because he made so many cocessions in the NAFTA talks, but the reality is that governments have a narrow range of options in decision making. No matter who wins, governments will continue to function. In the last century of the Roman Empire, many emporers were murdered after a few months in office, yet, the civil service held things together for a century. It was only after the suddent change in the climate that the whole thing collapsed.
Keep up the good fight but don't let your candidate down by sitting on your computer rather than getting out and putting in the real work.
If the Democrats do badly this year, you can bet they will be campaigning hard in 2024.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 30, 2022, 01:40:40 PMI leave the research up to the professional investigators who have far more resources than I have access to. They don't rely on the internet. They have access to the paper trail. If there is real evidence, they will present it in court and the court will decide. I am keeping an open mind.
I'm not certain what you mean by "election watchers." Each candidate will have scrutineers. What the candidates really need is canvassers to go door to door identifying the vote. You should be going into the campaign office who co-ordinates the canvassers. When the canvasser finds a voter who is waivering, the campaign office will send someone out to firm up their support.Then, there is the Election Day committee who gets every supporter into the voting booth. Secretary Clinton lost the 2016 election because the campaign thought they had it in the bag and they didn't get out the vote. President Trump's supporters in 2020 convinced themselves he was going win a landslide and, like "it's in the bag" is the kiss of death in politics. Obviously, I don't care who wins a US election, but it turns out President Trump was good for Canada because he made so many cocessions in the NAFTA talks, but the reality is that governments have a narrow range of options in decision making. No matter who wins, governments will continue to function. In the last century of the Roman Empire, many emporers were murdered after a few months in office, yet, the civil service held things together for a century. It was only after the suddent change in the climate that the whole thing collapsed.
Keep up the good fight but don't let your candidate down by sitting on your computer rather than getting out and putting in the real work.
If the Democrats do badly this year, you can bet they will be campaigning hard in 2024.
Biden campaigned from his basement, is that what you are referring to? None of the democrats held rallies where people actually showed up, is that what you mean? And yet we are to believe Biden had 81 million people vote for him? That is not the same as saying he got 81 million votes.
Quote from: Possum on January 30, 2022, 02:06:43 PMBiden campaigned from his basement, is that what you are referring to? None of the democrats held rallies where people actually showed up, is that what you mean? And yet we are to believe Biden had 81 million people vote for him? That is not the same as saying he got 81 million votes.
Well, you've got me there. :blushing: During the pandemic, large crowds are a bad idea. It was clear the opposition to President Trump was pretty strong, but I wouldn't dare comment on how the Democrats campaigned. I wasn't paying that much attention. I was impressed that President Trump received more votes than any other Presidential candidat in history, except for President Biden. 2020 was an impressive demonstration of a motivated electorate. You should all be proud of that.
If the courts determine President Biden's win was illegitimate, you will find me on here admitting that. These determinations are not made by the internet, they are not made by the newspapers. They are made in the courts. The USA is a Republic of laws, not opinion.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 30, 2022, 02:57:20 PMWell, you've got me there. :blushing: During the pandemic, large crowds are a bad idea. It was clear the opposition to President Trump was pretty strong, but I wouldn't dare comment on how the Democrats campaigned. I wasn't paying that much attention. I was impressed that President Trump received more votes than any other Presidential candidat in history, except for President Biden. 2020 was an impressive demonstration of a motivated electorate. You should all be proud of that.
If the courts determine President Biden's win was illegitimate, you will find me on here admitting that. These determinations are not made by the internet, they are not made by the newspapers. They are made in the courts. The USA is a Republic of laws, not opinion.
Trump drew crowds 100,000 +. No outbreak of the virus from any of them. And again, biden getting 81 million votes is not the same as 81 million people voting for him, I have shown you evidence where states have admitted there was fraud. If there was no fraud, where are those 81 million now? :lol: It's either buyer remorse, or they never existed.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 30, 2022, 02:57:20 PMWell, you've got me there. :blushing: During the pandemic, large crowds are a bad idea. It was clear the opposition to President Trump was pretty strong, but I wouldn't dare comment on how the Democrats campaigned. I wasn't paying that much attention. I was impressed that President Trump received more votes than any other Presidential candidat in history, except for President Biden. 2020 was an impressive demonstration of a motivated electorate. You should all be proud of that.
If the courts determine President Biden's win was illegitimate, you will find me on here admitting that. These determinations are not made by the internet, they are not made by the newspapers. They are made in the courts. The USA is a Republic of laws, not opinion.
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As I keep saying, that is a question best answered by the court.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 30, 2022, 03:55:43 PMAs I keep saying, that is a question best answered by the court.
We don't believe in just sitting on our butt and waiting for the court. We can see the evidence and make up our own mind. States are changing their laws to make sure this does not happen again. I gave you a small list of states that admitted that fraud occurred there,
Quote from: Possum on January 30, 2022, 03:59:11 PMWe don't believe in just sitting on our butt and waiting for the court. We can see the evidence and make up our own mind. States are changing their laws to make sure this does not happen again. I gave you a small list of states that admitted that fraud occurred there,
Wouldn't that violate the essence of the rule of law that the founders established? It is the same as the rule that a person is presumed to be innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 30, 2022, 03:55:43 PMAs I keep saying, that is a question best answered by the court.
Nope! In this country, we're a Republic, a govt of laws, and the law comes before the court!
When we're ready, the election will be voided, it really is that simple.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 30, 2022, 06:35:11 PMWouldn't that violate the essence of the rule of law that the founders established? It is the same as the rule that a person is presumed to be innocent unless proven guilty in a court of law.
The constitution gives the states the right to set their election laws. The states have found convincing evidence fraud occurred so they are changing their laws to prevent it from happening again. Explain how that is a violation of the rule of law?
Quote from: Possum on January 31, 2022, 04:05:50 AMThe constitution gives the states the right to set their election laws. The states have found convincing evidence fraud occurred so they are changing their laws to prevent it from happening again. Explain how that is a violation of the rule of law?
It is not. As long as it conforms to the Constitution, it is legal.
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 31, 2022, 05:28:28 AMIt is not. As long as it conforms to the Constitution and the allegations are upheld by the court, it is legal.
And we just ignore that Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, and Michigan among others have all uncovered fraud in the voting in their states? Let me try it from this angle, if you see someone uninvited in your home taking your computer and running off with it without your permission, did a theft occur or do you need a court to tell you if one did?
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 31, 2022, 05:28:28 AMIt is not. As long as it conforms to the Constitution, it is legal.
It is, it's called States Rights!
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 31, 2022, 05:28:28 AMIt is not. As long as it conforms to the Constitution, it is legal.
What laws in which state might be illegal?
Quote from: Tory Potter on January 31, 2022, 05:28:28 AMIt is not. As long as it conforms to the Constitution, it is legal.
Possum asked how it was a violation of the rule of law. I said it is not (a violation of the rule of law. I am agreeing with you.