This should be interesting
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/07/texas-sues-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court-
So, basically, Texas is arguing for National Election Standards...
I don't see how this clause was violated:
"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector."
The number of electors wasn't changed by any courts or executive actions.
edit: I see what Texas is arguing, now. They may have a good shot with it, actually.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 06:23:23 AM
So, basically, Texas is arguing for National Election Standards...
I don't see how this clause was violated:
"Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector."
The number of electors wasn't changed by any courts or executive actions.
edit: I see what Texas is arguing, now. They may have a good shot with it, actually.
I explained this twice already.
"Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because
they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures."
In other words, these states violated the election by stealing the Electoral influence of other states. Entirely un Constitutional!
Why did your handlers send you to a site where you are totally out of your league?
Quote from: Solar on December 08, 2020, 06:45:00 AM
I explained this twice already.
"Texas argues that these states violated the Electors Clause of the Constitution because they made changes to voting rules and procedures through the courts or through executive actions, but not through the state legislatures."
In other words, these states violated the election by stealing the Electoral influence of other states. Entirely un Constitutional!
Why did your handlers send you to a site where you are totally out of your league?
Seems like you didn't make it to the end of my post.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 06:49:31 AM
Seems like you didn't make it to the end of my post.
That's what happens when you edit your post and someone else is in the process of replying. Dumb Ass!
Quote from: Solar on December 08, 2020, 06:52:23 AM
That's what happens when you edit your post and someone else is in the process of replying. Dumb Ass!
It took you 8 minutes to come up with that bullshit you posted?
Senility...
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 06:55:39 AM
It took you 8 minutes to come up with that bullshit you posted?
Senility...
I was fixing breakfast fool! What you claim to be bull shit, is exactly what the article stated quite clearly as the truth, yet somehow my posting it is a lie?
Now, I'm going for my after breakfast cup of coffee, so before you post "Bull Shit", I suggest you be sure of what you're posting, because this forum alerts everyone when you edit your posts.
Quote from: Solar on December 08, 2020, 07:02:45 AM
I was fixing breakfast fool!
What you claim to be bull shit, is exactly what the article stated quite clearly as the truth, yet somehow my posting it is a lie?
Now, I'm going for my after breakfast cup of coffee, so before you post "Bull Shit", I suggest you be sure of what you're posting, because this forum alerts everyone when you edit your posts.
Yeah. The last thing you posted about "handlers" was bullshit.
And, of course we can see when posts are edited. That's why we know it took you 8 minutes to reply to my post with your bullshit.
Actually, I'm sure you quoted me After I had already edited my post; otherwise the edit wouldn't show up in yours.
Like I said, you didn't make it to the end of my original post.
Enjoy your breakfast, though. No hard feelings.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 07:12:13 AM
Yeah. The last thing you posted about "handlers" was bullshit.
And, of course we can see when posts are edited. That's why we know it took you 8 minutes to reply to my post with your bullshit.
Actually, I'm sure you quoted me After I had already edited my post; otherwise the edit wouldn't show up in yours.
Like I said, you didn't make it to the end of my original post.
Enjoy your breakfast, though. No hard feelings.
Nope, because the reply was open while I was away, it will automatically include your edit. Just one of the many issues with this forum software.
And that's why I didn't "make it to the end of your post", it wasn't there when I originally hit reply.
Oh, and I never take anything personal, I just don't care enough to give a shit. Honestly, nothing bothers me because we're killing the Marxists DNC and taking our country back, and that's a Fact Jack!
Hell, I'm damn near giddy everyday, have been since 6 months after Trump was elected. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 08, 2020, 06:01:40 AM
This should be interesting
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/07/texas-sues-georgia-michigan-pennsylvania-and-wisconsin-at-supreme-court-
This is good. And it's absolutely true, what the executive orders did was cheat the rest of the country. My guess is the crooks did not count on John Roberts being knocked out of his liberal spearheading and rewriting laws to suit the desires of the left/marxist/democraps. If our Constitution has any chance to survive this Article II has to be enforced, as written! Nothing more important than a fair election for a Republic to survive, otherwise we are just another corrupt mob rule democracy.
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Quote from: Bronx on December 08, 2020, 09:15:48 AM
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Supreme Court Agrees To Hear Texas Election LawsuitThe United States Supreme Court has agreed to hear the Texas election lawsuit that was filed by Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton.
https://thepalmierireport.com/supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-texas-election-lawsuit/
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Should we take bets on if the SCOTUS will actually hear the case from Texas?
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 01:25:14 PM
Should we take bets on if the SCOTUS will actually hear the case from Texas?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 01:25:14 PM
Should we take bets on if the SCOTUS will actually hear the case from Texas?
https://thepalmierireport.com/supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-texas-election-lawsuit/
Quote from: walkstall on December 08, 2020, 01:29:46 PM
https://thepalmierireport.com/supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-texas-election-lawsuit/
Please pardon him. He's not very bright.
Quote from: walkstall on December 08, 2020, 01:29:46 PM
https://thepalmierireport.com/supreme-court-agrees-to-hear-texas-election-lawsuit/
I'm pretty sure that everything on the docket doesn't actually get heard. Has SCOTUS actually said they're going to hear the case, or is it just "on the docket"?
edit:
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1336408882307080203?s=20
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 01:56:37 PM
I'm pretty sure that everything on the docket doesn't actually get heard. Has SCOTUS actually said they're going to hear the case, or is it just "on the docket"?
edit:
https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1336408882307080203?s=20
No, it's pretty black and white, an up or down vote, they either reject it outright, or accept it.
Quote from: Solar on December 08, 2020, 02:10:52 PM
No, it's pretty black and white, an up or down vote, they either reject it outright, or accept it.
I'll trust the law professor with the Blue check for now. Thanks
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 02:14:15 PM
I'll trust the law professor with the Blue check for now. Thanks
That Blue check means liberal hack...
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 02:14:15 PM
I'll trust the law professor with the Blue check for now. Thanks
Of course you do snowflake....
Allen West: Seven States Will Join Texas in SCOTUS Lawsuit Against Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania
Col. Allen West joined Steve Bannon Tuesday evening on The War Room. Allen West, the Republican Party Texas state leader, went on to discuss today's Texas lawsuit against Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania at the Supreme Court.
West told Steve Bannon that Louisiana joined the lawsuit on Tuesday afternoon.
Louisiana AG Jeff Landry announced earlier this afternoon that Louisiana is joining in on the Texas lawsuit filed yesterday against the states of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania over irregularities and lawlessness in the conduct of the 2020 election.
Allen West told Steve Bannon, "I think you're going to see ten states sign on to this petition and lawsuit. I know as you said Louisiana just came on board."
SEVEN states have now joined the Texas lawsuit, arguing that the Equal Protection Clause has been violated in this election from state-to-state.
https://newsla.localad.com/2020/12/08/allen-west-seven-states-will-join-texas-in-scotus-lawsuit-against-georgia-michigan-wisconsin-and-pennsylvania/
Quote from: BayouCountry on December 08, 2020, 06:50:27 PM
Allen West: Seven States Will Join Texas in SCOTUS Lawsuit Against Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania
Col. Allen West joined Steve Bannon Tuesday evening on The War Room. Allen West, the Republican Party Texas state leader, went on to discuss today's Texas lawsuit against Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania at the Supreme Court.
West told Steve Bannon that Louisiana joined the lawsuit on Tuesday afternoon.
Louisiana AG Jeff Landry announced earlier this afternoon that Louisiana is joining in on the Texas lawsuit filed yesterday against the states of Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania over irregularities and lawlessness in the conduct of the 2020 election.
Allen West told Steve Bannon, "I think you're going to see ten states sign on to this petition and lawsuit. I know as you said Louisiana just came on board."
SEVEN states have now joined the Texas lawsuit, arguing that the Equal Protection Clause has been violated in this election from state-to-state.
https://newsla.localad.com/2020/12/08/allen-west-seven-states-will-join-texas-in-scotus-lawsuit-against-georgia-michigan-wisconsin-and-pennsylvania/
Arkansas, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Kentucky, North Carolina, and South Carolina have now joined so we have a total of eight states joining Texas. I expect more to join.
Oklahoma is looking at it and may be next! Don't know what's keeping Florida! I suspect they will join too!
Here is video of Sekulow et al on the good news - so far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhVRkTWAGkA&t=739s
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 08, 2020, 02:14:15 PM
I'll trust the law professor with the Blue check for now. Thanks
And here is the problem with dopes like MC.
Per wikipedia:
Vladeck has commented on the legality of the United States' use of extrajudicial detention and torture,
and is a regular contributor to CNN.
17 states now...
I was thrilled when Texas filed suit against the swing states that are being contested. I didn't even know that states could do this, but they did and now 17 states are supporting the effort:
Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/states-tell-supreme-court-they-support-texas-bid-to-reverse-biden-win.html
While everything else is going on and partisan judges are acting like idiots, I think this lawsuit is going to push everything over to Trump's side!!!!
Quote from: TD on December 09, 2020, 02:06:32 PM
17 states now...
I was thrilled when Texas filed suit against the swing states that are being contested. I didn't even know that states could do this, but they did and now 17 states are supporting the effort:
Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/states-tell-supreme-court-they-support-texas-bid-to-reverse-biden-win.html
While everything else is going on and partisan judges are acting like idiots, I think this lawsuit is going to push everything over to Trump's side!!!!
What standing does texas have or any of the other states to have anything to do with another states voters? Youre on youre own goal line with 99 yards to go down by 8. You need a. 99 yard hail mary follwed by a two point conversion. So i guess ya have a chance
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 02:23:56 PM
What standing does texas have or any of the other states to have anything to do with another states voters? Youre on youre own goal line with 99 yards to go down by 8. You need a. 99 yard hail mary follwed by a two point conversion. So i guess ya have a chance
This is a republic, which is a collection of states that are governed by the people. I suppose that this lawsuit means that the states can force the federal government to get involved in something large, especially a Presidential election that is rife with fraud, cheating, and corruption. Texas and the other states are asking the USSC to get involved... and soon.
They are throwing a red flag to get the judges up in the booth to review the play.
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 02:23:56 PM
What standing does texas have or any of the other states to have anything to do with another states voters? Youre on youre own goal line with 99 yards to go down by 8. You need a. 99 yard hail mary follwed by a two point conversion. So i guess ya have a chance
"What standing does Texas have or any other states to have anything to with another states voters?" The point is that 1) there was fraud which negated legitimate votes 2) there was a change in certain states that was both unconstitutional and unlawful. This could apply to virtually EVERY other state!
The fraud happened and the change in election rules happened because President Trump was hated by the Democrats.
Quote from: RV on December 09, 2020, 02:30:06 PM
"What standing does Texas have or any other states to have anything to with another states voters?" The point is that 1) there was fraud which negated legitimate votes 2) there was a change in certain states that was both unconstitutional and unlawful. This could apply to virtually EVERY other state!
The fraud happened and the change in election rules happened because President Trump was hated by the Democrats.
Yes they should use that in court. You should overturn the election because democrats hated trump. Lets just say in a 1 in a million chance it works. Do you not believe that would be the end of our union? If the courts were able to dictate the president. Why even bother having elections?
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 02:23:56 PM
What standing does texas have or any of the other states to have anything to do with another states voters? Youre on youre own goal line with 99 yards to go down by 8. You need a. 99 yard hail mary follwed by a two point conversion. So i guess ya have a chance
Four states changed their own election laws unconstitutionally for the sole purpose of throwing the election towards biden. If you disagree with that statement you have not been paying attention. The states that hold honest elections want to see it everywhere, if they follow the constitution, the others must also. That is the standing Texas has.
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 02:23:56 PM
What standing does texas have or any of the other states to have anything to do with another states voters? Youre on youre own goal line with 99 yards to go down by 8. You need a. 99 yard hail mary follwed by a two point conversion. So i guess ya have a chance
If the elections in the other states violated the constitution then their electors were decided illegally and can effect the legitimate electors from the other states by diluting their lawful votes same as stuffing the ballot box! This is a flat out constitutional issue and i think the SCOTUS will have to hear it!
If they fail to follow up with it, it would green light and governor or sec. of state to change election law on a whim at anytime! Really interesting argument I never saw this coming! If I was in the Biden camp I would be a little worried right now! The SCOTUS could bring up all the other suits and combine them to show that the changes did effect the lawful vote! Don't know if they will but with a 6 to 3 to hear the case a the Trump team joining in arguments could be the indicator that all is not right in team Biden!!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
Quote from: redbeard on December 09, 2020, 03:25:10 PM
If the elections in the other states violated the constitution then their electors were decided illegally and can effect the legitimate electors from the other states by diluting their lawful votes same as stuffing the ballot box! This is a flat out constitutional issue and i think the SCOTUS will have to hear it!
If they fail to follow up with it, it would green light and governor or sec. of state to change election law on a whim at anytime! Really interesting argument I never saw this coming! If I was in the Biden camp I would be a little worried right now! The SCOTUS could bring up all the other suits and combine them to show that the changes did effect the lawful vote! Don't know if they will but with a 6 to 3 to hear the case a the Trump team joining in arguments could be the indicator that all is not right in team Biden!!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
If they throw it out will you guys finally give up?
no
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 03:29:20 PM
If they throw it out will you guys finally give up?
IF the don't will the Lib's and you finally give up? Or just keep on doing what you have been doing for the last 4+ years?
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 03:29:20 PM
If they throw it out will you guys finally give up?
No, you don't get it do you? Have you not paid any attention at all to this discussion, or is it just throwing mud around that interests you? We are not giving up on the Republic or the Constitution, EVER! We are not a democracy, the mob doesn't rule, the Constitution does. Wake up.
Read Article II of the Constitution about which body has complete control of how a state votes and assigns electors to the Electoral College. 4 states changed their rules without going through the state legislators as required per Article II.
State vs. State throws it to the Supreme Court and by passes the hack Sorors and de-balled RINO judges. Simple as that is how Texas and any other state has standing. It is why President Trump has not been able to get pass the little judges in the lower courts, there were civil actions concerning states rights and issues.
I think Joke Buydon and his group of commies should find something else to do than measure for drapes. As reported, Congress is not going to recognize Joke until the electoral college says he won, which he didn't. No way a demented pedophile and a washed up whore got 80 million votes. Now I'll agree that there are probably 80 million marxists out there that have a terrible case of Orange Man Bad, but most were to high on drugs to go and vote.
Will be close at the Supreme Court because the tranny Roberts will side with the other gender confused libtard/leftist/marxist/democraps on the court. Any person that can reason that a virus suspends our Rights is not a judge, they're pond scum.
Quote from: redbeard on December 09, 2020, 03:25:10 PM
If the elections in the other states violated the constitution then their electors were decided illegally and can effect the legitimate electors from the other states by diluting their lawful votes same as stuffing the ballot box! This is a flat out constitutional issue and i think the SCOTUS will have to hear it!
If they fail to follow up with it, it would green light and governor or sec. of state to change election law on a whim at anytime! Really interesting argument I never saw this coming! If I was in the Biden camp I would be a little worried right now! The SCOTUS could bring up all the other suits and combine them to show that the changes did effect the lawful vote! Don't know if they will but with a 6 to 3 to hear the case a the Trump team joining in arguments could be the indicator that all is not right in team Biden!!! :popcorn: :popcorn:
Texas changed some of their laws for the pandemic, abbot allowed people to bring in their mail in ballots. Should texas electoral votes be thrown out?
President Trump WON in Texas! Why should their election be overturned? :lol:
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 03:29:20 PM
If they throw it out will you guys finally give up?
You do realize that even if all avenues thru the court were cut off(say if rbg were still alive), even then trump doesnt have to leave office. Nothing can make him leave as the military is very loyal to him, both the grunts and the officers he has put in charge. With all the evidence of cheating no one is going to make trump leave and there is simply no way biden can force his way in as the majority dont even want him and so wont support him. Weve already won this and nothing is going to change that. There is nothing anyone in the minority left can do to stop trumps next 4 years except to scream at the sky like last time.
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 06:43:57 PM
Texas changed some of their laws for the pandemic, abbot allowed people to bring in their mail in ballots. Should texas electoral votes be thrown out?
Did they do it illegally like PA?
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 09, 2020, 06:55:07 PM
President Trump WON in Texas! Why should their election be overturned? :lol:
Yes, President Trump did indeed win....Leave it to Texas to make the point...
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 09, 2020, 06:43:57 PM
Texas changed some of their laws for the pandemic, abbot allowed people to bring in their mail in ballots. Should texas electoral votes be thrown out?
So you're admitting laws were illegally changed in other states I see. Yet you still claim you haven't seen any fraud? We know who the fraud is here... :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Quote from: Solar on December 10, 2020, 04:12:17 AM
So you're admitting laws were illegally changed in other states I see. Yet you still claim you haven't seen any fraud? We know who the fraud is here... :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
Guess they need to sue to have the Texas legislature decide which electors to pick. Wonder who they will go for? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: T Hunt on December 09, 2020, 10:09:16 PM
Did they do it illegally like PA?
:popcorn:
I couldn't find anything about Texas illegally changing election laws. If I was making such an allegation I would at least back it up with a link. All I can find is the old liberal argument that the lawsuit disenfranchises voters.
Quote from: BayouCountry on December 10, 2020, 04:33:40 AM
:popcorn:
I couldn't find anything about Texas illegally changing election laws. If I was making such an allegation I would at least back it up with a link. All I can find is the old liberal argument that the lawsuit disenfranchises voters.
Abbot allowed early voting to be extended by six days, he also limited the number of drop boxes for absentee ballots to one per county. This did not change any laws for how people vote like blanket mail out did.
Quote from: Possum on December 10, 2020, 04:41:40 AM
Abbot allowed early voting to be extended by six days, he also limited the number of drop boxes for absentee ballots to one per county. This did not change any laws for how people vote like blanket mail out did.
It seems that the resident Lib keeps deflecting from the topic instead of addressing the facts that are posted. In another thread he/she brings up a pardon to deflect.
This lawsuit is huge because other states coming on board. I have new hope that the democrats won't succeed with their election fraud.
Quote from: BayouCountry on December 10, 2020, 05:03:12 AM
It seems that the resident Lib keeps deflecting from the topic instead of addressing the facts that are posted. In another thread he/she brings up a pardon to deflect.
This lawsuit is huge because other states coming on board. I have new hope that the democrats won't succeed with their election fraud.
In other words, he knows the left cheated, so he's trying to claim we did the same, so we're hypocrites.
But the admittance still stands, they know the left cheated.
Quote from: Solar on December 10, 2020, 05:20:11 AM
In other words, he knows the left cheated, so he's trying to claim we did the same, so we're hypocrites.
But the admittance still stands, they know the left cheated.
There is no doubt in my mind that Bejing Biden and Komrad Harris KNEW that there was going to be fraud. That is why Biden stayed in his basement and never addressed difficult questions.
This has got to help their case when one of the states involved signs on. https://gellerreport.com/2020/12/pennsylvania-house-leaders-file-brief-to-support-texas-in-supreme-court-lawsuit-against-pennsylvania.html/
QuotePennsylvania's House speaker and majority leader on Thursday filed an amici curiae brief with the Supreme Court against the state of Pennsylvania and in favor of Texas's lawsuit against the commonwealth and three other states.
Quote from: Possum on December 11, 2020, 03:57:50 AM
This has got to help their case when one of the states involved signs on. https://gellerreport.com/2020/12/pennsylvania-house-leaders-file-brief-to-support-texas-in-supreme-court-lawsuit-against-pennsylvania.html/
Are you talking about the other states and territories that are against the lawsuit? Theres more of them.
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:21:38 AM
Are you talking about the other states and territories that are against the lawsuit? Theres more of them.
And what have they signed to show that? Right now it is Texas and 17 other states against the four, and now you also have this,
QuotePennsylvania's House speaker and majority leader on Thursday filed an amici curiae brief with the Supreme Court against the state of Pennsylvania and in favor of Texas's lawsuit against the commonwealth and three other states.
You have nothing.
Quote from: Possum on December 11, 2020, 09:41:19 AM
And what have they signed to show that? Right now it is Texas and 17 other states against the four, and now you also have this, You have nothing.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/colorado-joins-23-state-coalition-opposing-texas-election-lawsuit
23-17 you lose again
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:49:53 AM
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/colorado-joins-23-state-coalition-opposing-texas-election-lawsuit
23-17 you lose again
What they signed states
Quote"The Constitution grants the states the power to set their own rules for presidential elections held within their own states.
That is wrong, the constitution grants the "state legislatures" the power. Looks like they need to go back to the drawing board.
QuoteOne unusual feature of the Elections Clause is that it does not confer the power to regulate congressional elections on states as a whole, but rather the "Legislature" of each state.
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:49:53 AM
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/colorado-joins-23-state-coalition-opposing-texas-election-lawsuit
23-17 you lose again
LOL nice try but several of those against it are territories not states. Sorry but there are more states for the lawsuit than against it.
Well the SCOTUS screwed us all. It's over, Lawsuit rejected. How the hell can this happen? When Biden takes over, things will go south really quick. The criminal Dems will fix the Georgia runoff too.
God helps all.
Quote from: afvet on December 11, 2020, 06:42:48 PM
Well the SCOTUS screwed us all. It's over, Lawsuit rejected. How the hell can this happen? When Biden takes over, things will go south really quick. The criminal Dems will fix the Georgia runoff too.
God helps all.
Relax, it's OK, really. Keep in mind, Texas came out of no where with this lawsuit, but Trump still has a plan in place, so nothing changed, and Texas can still take this to SCOTUS, they just used the wrong law is all.
Quote from: Solar on December 11, 2020, 06:54:18 PM
Relax, it's OK, really. Keep in mind, Texas came out of no where with this lawsuit, but Trump still has a plan in place, so nothing changed, and Texas can still take this to SCOTUS, they just used the wrong law is all.
I have lost hope at this point. I thought this lawsuit had a chance. I feel that it being rejected, ends Trump's chances. I don't feel good about this at all. I'm praying for a miracle.
Quote from: afvet on December 11, 2020, 07:35:44 PM
I have lost hope at this point. I thought this lawsuit had a chance. I feel that it being rejected, ends Trump's chances. I don't feel good about this at all. I'm praying for a miracle.
Don't fret. Sidney Powell and Trump's legal team have a ton of evidence that is grounded. This Texas suit was theoretical and did not have any precedent from history on which to base itself. It sounded good in theory but just wasn't heavy enough for the USSC to hear arguments.
The electoral college formally elects Biden on Monday. There isn't anymore time.
Quote from: afvet on December 11, 2020, 07:57:49 PM
The electoral college formally elects Biden on Monday. There isn't anymore time.
Matters not, it won't be official with all the pending lawsuits. As I posted earlier, Trump still has several options left, the final one being the Insurrection Act.
https://twitter.com/SidneyPowell1/status/1337597433283571712
Quote from: TD on December 11, 2020, 07:40:29 PM
Don't fret. Sidney Powell and Trump's legal team have a ton of evidence that is grounded. This Texas suit was theoretical and did not have any precedent from history on which to base itself. It sounded good in theory but just wasn't heavy enough for the USSC to hear arguments.
it was too heavy actually...which is why it terrified all the non-conservative Justices.....
It is disheartening that Alito and Thomas are the only ones who believe in the constitution up there, where were Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and ACB???
Quote from: MichaelJ on December 12, 2020, 06:04:47 AM
It is disheartening that Alito and Thomas are the only ones who believe in the constitution up there, where were Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and ACB???
https://twitter.com/i/status/1337583199912792064
As mad as I am about this decision, or rather this non decision, it does look as the SC is showing the correct way the case needs to be filed. I take it that the SC wants all the t's crossed and the i's dotted before proceeding.
Quote from: Possum on December 12, 2020, 06:08:09 AM
As mad as I am about this decision, or rather this non decision, it does look as the SC is showing the correct way the case needs to be filed. I take it that the SC wants all the t's crossed and the i's dotted before proceeding.
That's the impression I'm getting as well. I'd rather the court follow the Constitution than set precedent as a Conservative court that bends the law.
We're still a Republic after all.
Quote from: afvet on December 11, 2020, 07:57:49 PM
The electoral college formally elects Biden on Monday. There isn't anymore time.
Not quite. Only on Jan. 6 are the electoral college votes tabulated by a joint session of House/Senate. At that point if one Senator and one Representative object to one state's slate of electors, then there is a debate on accepting or rejecting that state's slate. So if enough states electors, via this debating & voting are rejected or replaced by a Trump slate, then in the latter case Trump is reelected. In the former case then the contingent election process goes back to the House where R state delegations are 27 and Dem states are 22 or so - thus Trump is reelected.
But the bigger question is the Right's too much reliance on the judicial system. As long as the USA culture is pervaded by hostile & indifferent residents (citizens or not) who do not vote & do not care about civic awareness and are blissfully ignorant of what it takes to keep a Republic, we will continue to slide toward a totalitarian state.
Happening Now!!! :thumbup:
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1337786316205985795
Quote from: Skull on December 12, 2020, 07:44:14 AM
Not quite. Only on Jan. 6 are the electoral college votes tabulated by a joint session of House/Senate. At that point if one Senator and one Representative object to one state's slate of electors, then there is a debate on accepting or rejecting that state's slate. So if enough states electors, via this debating & voting are rejected or replaced by a Trump slate, then in the latter case Trump is reelected. In the former case then the contingent election process goes back to the House where R state delegations are 27 and Dem states are 22 or so - thus Trump is reelected.
But the bigger question is the Right's too much reliance on the judicial system. As long as the USA culture is pervaded by hostile & indifferent residents (citizens or not) who do not vote & do not care about civic awareness and are blissfully ignorant of what it takes to keep a Republic, we will continue to slide toward a totalitarian state.
The only date that matters is Jan 20th.
https://twitter.com/FuctupMike/status/1337578030349365248?fbclid=IwAR3xTBe7GbsZQUAWUav4P9M1zFo1pZgvu3_mbn5287_V6SmU4ZM2sXOyyh0
I've talked with a couple of people now and they have repeatedly told me that there is no point in voting anymore. They expressed that the liberals are going to forge, discredit, disallow or fraudulently make ballots up any way they like. One person expressed to me that he didn't trust government before but, now he really knows that government is corrupted to the point that only the Lord's return will correct it. These folks stated that what is considered "law" is really only applied to Conservatives rather than Democrats. It was difficult listening to them and what's more, I really had no argument for their logic.
Quote from: RV on December 13, 2020, 10:15:40 AM
I've talked with a couple of people now and they have repeatedly told me that there is no point in voting anymore. They expressed that the liberals are going to forge, discredit, disallow or fraudulently make ballots up any way they like. One person expressed to me that he didn't trust government before but, now he really knows that government is corrupted to the point that only the Lord's return will correct it. These folks stated that what is considered "law" is really only applied to Conservatives rather than Democrats. It was difficult listening to them and what's more, I really had no argument for their logic.
I hope you are not buying into that. It is what the left desires and it admits defeat. Disagree with those folks and tell them it is important to fight.
Quote from: RV on December 13, 2020, 10:15:40 AM
I've talked with a couple of people now and they have repeatedly told me that there is no point in voting anymore. They expressed that the liberals are going to forge, discredit, disallow or fraudulently make ballots up any way they like. One person expressed to me that he didn't trust government before but, now he really knows that government is corrupted to the point that only the Lord's return will correct it. These folks stated that what is considered "law" is really only applied to Conservatives rather than Democrats. It was difficult listening to them and what's more, I really had no argument for their logic.
Their system of cheating will fall apart. Can't wait for the 2024 democratic primaries, joe is not going to run, the party hates harris, the nation will not vote for her, so the primaries should be wide open, right? But, not if the party that cheats has to cheat on its own to get the chosen one elected. I guess another way to look at it, every democrat from now on will either be a socialist, or the dnc will have to cheat to keep them from winning a primary. It works in a third world country, but we are not there yet.
You believe your vote will matter in 2024? :lol:
Quote from: carlb on December 13, 2020, 12:08:34 PM
You believe your vote will matter in 2024? :lol:
I cannot say that my vote will matter in ANY election after this. No matter how many millions of votes a conservative candidate gets, the liberals will just manufacture enough to push them over the top so that they "win" the election. Even if 80 Million people vote for a Republican candidate, the left will use whatever means it feels is "necessary" to swing the vote to their candidate. In the end the liberal media will "proclaim" that the Democrat candidate "won" regardless of how fraudulent and concocted the voting is. Any claims of fraud will be summarily dismissed as we are seeing today.
When people talked about revolution, I was never with that because we always had the vote.
Now that they learned how much they can get away with and the support the system gives them, I'm not seeing any other alternative. Still hoping for a miracle and hoping there are enough good people to kill this Chinese revolution
Quote from: yrunvs on December 09, 2020, 12:46:18 PM
And here is the problem with dopes like MC.
Per wikipedia:
Vladeck has commented on the legality of the United States' use of extrajudicial detention and torture, and is a regular contributor to CNN.
That's good for CNN and the University of Texas. He's clearly knowledgeable and was right on this.