Quote from: suzziY on September 21, 2014, 06:11:53 PM
I asked the political genius his definition of conservatism ... still waiting.   Trying to converse with him is a waste of time really.  We know he's definitely not TEA, nor a conservative who claims he's a political genius ... why bother?

washington no facts no data just a lot of Hot Air. 
     

Quote from: walkstall on September 21, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
  Have him Define Conservative.

RINO, in his book.

Quote from: Solar on September 21, 2014, 08:14:17 PM

RINO, in his book.

I have a page for him, lets see if he can stay inside the lines.   

Quote from: washington on September 21, 2014, 04:15:36 PM
What?  For the last time I'm a conservative who isn't extreme.

Someone who's views are so extreme they are unwilling to reason and therefore accomplish anything.  Bringing people to the right is a slow process and it takes "some" compromise or move to the left to begin to take 2 steps to the right.

Quote from: walkstall on September 21, 2014, 04:35:36 PM
  Have him Define Conservative.

Conservative is a discriptive word that can only be used to discribe individual view or perceptions.  Another words conservative in what? 

Quote from: washington on September 21, 2014, 10:27:19 PM
Someone who's views are so extreme they are unwilling to reason and therefore accomplish anything.  Bringing people to the right is a slow process and it takes "some" compromise or move to the left to begin to take 2 steps to the right.

So you're willing to compromise your values and the goal of Conservatism for what?
I can assume you have no issue with the destruction of tradition and watering down the values of what it means to be a Conservative, if it means what?
Are you saying we should allow NAMBLA, "New" black panthers, KKK, code pink into the movement, if it helps attain your goals, or pander to leftist groups if it builds our numbers?

Your immature understanding of what it means to be Conservative exposes sooo much about what it is you don't know.
You see, it's like watching a toddler taking it's first steps, only you're the toddler claiming expert status on walking, while you have yet to experience running.

Compromising ones core values is not Conservative. Obviously you're not what you purport too be.

Quote from: Solar on September 22, 2014, 05:33:43 AM
So you're willing to compromise your values and the goal of Conservatism for what?
I can assume you have no issue with the destruction of tradition and watering down the values of what it means to be a Conservative, if it means what?
Are you saying we should allow NAMBLA, "New" black panthers, KKK, code pink into the movement, if it helps attain your goals, or pander to leftist groups if it builds our numbers?

Your immature understanding of what it means to be Conservative exposes sooo much about what it is you don't know.
You see, it's like watching a toddler taking it's first steps, only you're the toddler claiming expert status on walking, while you have yet to experience running.

Compromising ones core values is not Conservative. Obviously you're not what you purport too be.

Never said that.  There's a way to compromise while sticking to you values.  Conservatives can accept a budget that decreases the debt, but just enough to get democrats on board.  Even though they want to do it more.  That can be done at another date.  See my point. 

Quote from: washington on September 22, 2014, 06:56:54 AM
Never said that.  There's a way to compromise while sticking to you values.  Conservatives can accept a budget that decreases the debt, but just enough to get democrats on board.  Even though they want to do it more.  That can be done at another date.  See my point.

That's naive. The GOP does that all time but a few hundred billion cut in a country with trillions in unfunded liabilities achieves nothing.

The only way to decrease the debt is to cut government programs. The Democrats won't do that.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 22, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
That's naive. The GOP does that all time but a few hundred billion cut in a country with trillions in unfunded liabilities achieves nothing.

The only way to decrease the debt is to cut government programs. The Democrats won't do that.

Especially when libs & dems call budget growth "a draconian cut"....when it's less of a growth than they wanted.

When you're dealing with 24/7 GD Liars, no compromise is ever real, or possible.  They prove every day, and have for 40 years, that their "compromise" is something between 95 and 99 % what they want.  And always an out, to renege on the 1 or 2% that they "gave".  See "secure the border" for the last 40 years.  Always a damned lie.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 22, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
That's naive. The GOP does that all time but a few hundred billion cut in a country with trillions in unfunded liabilities achieves nothing.

The only way to decrease the debt is to cut government programs. The Democrats won't do that.

That's because they are in control for now, but that will change.

Quote from: washington on September 22, 2014, 09:59:45 AM
That's because they are in control for now, but that will change.

Why then  would the GOP have to settle for tiny cuts in spending if they are in control?

The 60 vote filibuster

Quote from: washington on September 22, 2014, 12:25:47 PM
The 60 vote filibuster

So unless the GOP gets a filibuster proof majority they are being held captive by the Democrats?

They can't pass anything they want and will have to be bipartisin.  You know that word you extremists can't ever hear. 

Quote from: washington on September 22, 2014, 01:01:33 PM
They can't pass anything they want and will have to be bipartisin.  You know that word you extremists can't ever hear.

That's because bipartisan means complicity to the dems and the only others to use that word are rinos.  You can't agree with democrats because they just slam the door shut on proposals, refuse to hear proposals.  Hell, they just check out when they hear that some rep or conservative has got a plan.  Yet, supposedly the dems have offered to work with  members across the aisle but we won't let them.  Sounds like childsplay up in the WH to me and we're paying them to do it.