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Title: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Bronx on March 02, 2016, 11:22:55 AM
March 15th will be the braking of Mr.Trump. Then all his "Dixicrats" can head back to the camp of Hillary sobbing in disbelief.

It's going to be a tough road but the road is paved and ready for the taking. I believe the mistake Mr.Trump is going to make is not showing up for them debates. I could be wrong but the yes men in Trump's corner will not advise him well.

The next few primaries are closed primaries and that my friends is the road that will make or brake this GOP election.

I'm leaning in the direction of Ted Cruz. Good luck Mr.Cruz and may the road be smooth for you.

"Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP"

Last night was a big night for Ted Cruz, as he predicted it would be. He won three states and competed very closely in several others.

While the delegates still aren't fully awarded yet, the current count already has the Associated Press suggesting that Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who can stop Donald Trump:

Despite Donald Trump's string of victories on Tuesday, he has to do better in upcoming contests to claim the Republican nomination for president before the party's national convention this summer, an AP delegate count shows.

Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could stop him — with a little help from Marco Rubio.

LIVE ACTION one the delegate count here.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/03/01/upshot/super-tuesday-live-republican-delegate-estimates.html?_r=2



Read more: http://therightscoop.com/associated-press-ted-cruz-is-emerging-as-the-candidate-who-could-stop-trump/#ixzz41m6et1Z6



Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: tac on March 02, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Cruz is within striking distance of Trump, especially if Trump does poorly in the closed primary states.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: supsalemgr on March 02, 2016, 12:40:09 PM
Quote from: tac on March 02, 2016, 12:35:32 PM
Cruz is within striking distance of Trump, especially if Trump does poorly in the closed primary states.

These closed primaries will help us determine what part of Trump's support is from democrats and unaffiliated voters. It will be interesting to watch.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: tac on March 02, 2016, 12:50:04 PM
March 5th
Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana

Maine

Nebraska
These are all closed!
Read more: http://www.politico.com/2016-election/schedule#ixzz41mSh2Atr

Check this link for the primary dates and types of elections.

https://ballotpedia.org/Closed_primary




Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: walkstall on March 02, 2016, 12:58:55 PM
Quote from: tac on March 02, 2016, 12:50:04 PM

These are all closed!
Read more: http://www.politico.com/2016-election/schedule#ixzz41mSh2Atr

Check this link for the primary dates and types of elections.

https://ballotpedia.org/Closed_primary

Please put in Library.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Dori on March 02, 2016, 01:02:58 PM
If I counted correctly, there will fifteen state caucus/primaries between now and the 15th.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2016, 01:08:30 PM
Quote from: tac on March 02, 2016, 12:50:04 PM
March 5th
Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana

Maine

Nebraska
These are all closed!
Read more: http://www.politico.com/2016-election/schedule#ixzz41mSh2Atr

Check this link for the primary dates and types of elections.

https://ballotpedia.org/Closed_primary
And the biggest prize of all would be the Ca primary June 7th.
Believe me, if it goes that far, Ca will cement the vote for Cruz.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: mrconservative on March 02, 2016, 01:14:30 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2016, 01:08:30 PM
And the biggest prize of all would be the Ca primary June 7th.
Believe me, if it goes that far, Ca will cement the vote for Cruz.

Is CA a winner take all or proportional? If heard both.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2016, 01:19:49 PM
Quote from: mrconservative on March 02, 2016, 01:14:30 PM
Is CA a winner take all or proportional? If heard both.
Yes, winner take all. :thumbup:
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Double D on March 02, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2016, 01:08:30 PM
And the biggest prize of all would be the Ca primary June 7th.
Believe me, if it goes that far, Ca will cement the vote for Cruz.

California has alot of conservatives?
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: mrconservative on March 02, 2016, 01:21:31 PM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2016, 01:19:49 PM
Yes, winner take all. :thumbup:

Can the push it up from June 7th to March 7th? :rolleyes: :lol:
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Bowhntr on March 02, 2016, 02:10:30 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 02, 2016, 12:40:09 PM
These closed primaries will help us determine what part of Trump's support is from democrats and unaffiliated voters. It will be interesting to watch.

Yes it will!  Am I the only one that is making the connection between record high voters in the GOP primaries and record LOWS in the dem contests?  The Dems are crossing over in the open contests to vote Trump!!!
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: walkstall on March 02, 2016, 02:35:23 PM
Quote from: Bowhntr on March 02, 2016, 02:10:30 PM
Yes it will!  Am I the only one that is making the connection between record high voters in the GOP primaries and record LOWS in the dem contests?  The Dems are crossing over in the open contests to vote Trump!!!

Your not the only one young man.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Cali Contrarian on March 02, 2016, 02:40:25 PM
Quote from: Double D on March 02, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
California has alot of conservatives?

Doesn't matter in a primary. It is a truly closed primary, meaning no last minute party switching. Could very well be the key to the effort to stop Trump. It's nice to have the opportunity to participate in an election where my vote might actually mean something. That doesn't happen often in California.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Cali Contrarian on March 02, 2016, 02:55:48 PM
Quote from: tac on March 02, 2016, 12:50:04 PM
March 5th
Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana

Maine

Nebraska
These are all closed!
Read more: http://www.politico.com/2016-election/schedule#ixzz41mSh2Atr

Check this link for the primary dates and types of elections.

https://ballotpedia.org/Closed_primary

The Nebraska Republican primary is scheduled for May 10. Saturday is the dimocrats only.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Solar on March 02, 2016, 03:22:37 PM
Quote from: Double D on March 02, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
California has alot of conservatives?
Yes, it's almost a split between takers and producers, and the producers are many.
People think just because business left Ca, that it took Conservatives with them, but nothing could be further from the truth, many Conservatives are self sufficient and or retired.
It was the support staff/grunt labor that left with a lot of industry. Just ask Texans what they think of all the Californians that flooded their state.
The same thing happened to Ca about 40 years back, East coast libs flooded the South state and the Bay area and infested local govt.
It's what these scum do.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: quiller on March 03, 2016, 04:01:49 AM
Quote from: Double D on March 02, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
California has alot of conservatives?

So they claim.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2016, 05:19:47 AM
Quote from: quiller on March 03, 2016, 04:01:49 AM
So they claim.  :biggrin:
From another post.

There's a reason the GOP'e sticks us so far out at the end of primary season, they know who their constituency is and don't want us effecting the race, especially considering it's a closed primary, 173? delegates, and a winner take all.
So if they thought we were a bunch of moderates, sympathetic to the Establishments cause, don't you think they'd move us up to Super Tuesday?

Of course they would, but we're not, we're Conservatives that actually were the first to experience the damage done by the GOP'e and their willingness to sell us out to the Marxists.
You bet the GOP is afraid of us, and if we get a chance to vote in the primary come June, you'll see just how pissed off we truly are.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Possum on March 03, 2016, 05:39:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 02, 2016, 03:22:37 PM
Yes, it's almost a split between takers and producers, and the producers are many.
People think just because business left Ca, that it took Conservatives with them, but nothing could be further from the truth, many Conservatives are self sufficient and or retired.
It was the support staff/grunt labor that left with a lot of industry. Just ask Texans what they think of all the Californians that flooded their state.

Want'em back? Look what they did to austin.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2016, 05:57:35 AM
Quote from: s3779m on March 03, 2016, 05:39:15 AM
Want'em back? Look what they did to austin.
They'll do like they always do, move on to virgin Ground, soil their nest and move on again.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: tac on March 03, 2016, 06:11:39 AM
Quote from: s3779m on March 03, 2016, 05:39:15 AM
Want'em back? Look what they did to austin.

The hell with Austin, they ruined Colorado.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: quiller on March 03, 2016, 06:21:42 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2016, 05:19:47 AM
From another post.

There's a reason the GOP'e sticks us so far out at the end of primary season, they know who their constituency is and don't want us effecting the race, especially considering it's a closed primary, 173? delegates, and a winner take all.
So if they thought we were a bunch of moderates, sympathetic to the Establishments cause, don't you think they'd move us up to Super Tuesday?

Of course they would, but we're not, we're Conservatives that actually were the first to experience the damage done by the GOP'e and their willingness to sell us out to the Marxists.
You bet the GOP is afraid of us, and if we get a chance to vote in the primary come June, you'll see just how pissed off we truly are.

"B-1 Bob" Dornan was the last California conservative. Get over it.  :wink:
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2016, 06:26:18 AM
Quote from: quiller on March 03, 2016, 06:21:42 AM
"B-1 Bob" Dornan was the last California conservative. Get over it.  :wink:
You've never heard of Tom McClintock? The state is packed full of some of, if not most, of the Conservatives in politics, problem is, the GOP'e stifels them at every turn.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: quiller on March 03, 2016, 07:04:04 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2016, 06:26:18 AM
You've never heard of Tom McClintock? The state is packed full of some of, if not most, of the Conservatives in politics, problem is, the GOP'e stifels them at every turn.

No, I am unaware of anyone who could chew scenery quite like the fire-breathin' Mr. Dornan. I really, really, REALLY would like to lay hands on the last couple of after-hours floor speeches Dornan gave before stepping down. In a different time and place the statements would have led to a President in a duel on the White House lawn. An amazing speaker.

What you call a problem is the reason I don't call them conservatives. Anyone tries to stifle me better be ready to get stifled right back. Hoo hah, I can do it in five words or less.

As I see it any stifling was permitted because CA cons SHOULD have infiltrated that sorry gaggle at the county caucus levels, to the terrifying point where RINO jocksniffers can't draw a full breath. Nationally, your state's GOP is seen as being just as liberal as Michigan's. The true conservatives aren't heard from much up in Lansing, but then again, that way they don't get blamed for Flint water or requested to resign like that blithering jackass now in office.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Dubinsky on March 03, 2016, 07:20:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2016, 05:57:35 AM
They'll do like they always do, move on to virgin Ground, soil their nest and move on again.

That's what they did and are still doing in S.C.  Take a look at the Beaufort/Bluffton area.  Overrun with NYC/NJ transplants and their liberal politics as well.  Cruz was swamped in Beaufort County, if I recall.   
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Dori on March 03, 2016, 07:36:12 AM
Quote from: s3779m on March 03, 2016, 05:39:15 AM
Want'em back? Look what they did to austin.

I don't blame transplants for that, I blame the liberal colleges.

Most people leaving CA were businesses or employees following them.  Texas enticed businesses to leave here because of all our idiot laws and taxes.  They also offered people less taxes and more affordable housing.  I know several people who left CA for TX and they were not liberals.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: walkstall on March 03, 2016, 07:40:41 AM
Quote from: Dori on March 03, 2016, 07:36:12 AM
I don't blame transplants for that, I blame the liberal colleges.

Most people leaving CA were businesses or employees following them.  Texas enticed businesses to leave here because of all our idiot laws and taxes.  They also offered people less taxes and more affordable housing.  I know several people who left CA for TX and they were not liberals.


Lib's  think if you control the young mind you control the future.

Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Dori on March 03, 2016, 07:52:57 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 03, 2016, 07:40:41 AM

Lib's  think if you control the young mind you control the future.

They're right too.  Look what's happening all across the country.  You can't even find a conservative professor anymore, and conservative speakers take their lives in their hands if they go on campus. 
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Sauce on March 03, 2016, 07:54:16 AM
Quote from: walkstall on March 03, 2016, 07:40:41 AM

Lib's  think if you control the young mind you control the future.


...and regrettably they have been spot on for the last 50+ years
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Solar on March 03, 2016, 09:27:31 AM
Quote from: quiller on March 03, 2016, 07:04:04 AM
No, I am unaware of anyone who could chew scenery quite like the fire-breathin' Mr. Dornan. I really, really, REALLY would like to lay hands on the last couple of after-hours floor speeches Dornan gave before stepping down. In a different time and place the statements would have led to a President in a duel on the White House lawn. An amazing speaker.

What you call a problem is the reason I don't call them conservatives. Anyone tries to stifle me better be ready to get stifled right back. Hoo hah, I can do it in five words or less.

As I see it any stifling was permitted because CA cons SHOULD have infiltrated that sorry gaggle at the county caucus levels, to the terrifying point where RINO jocksniffers can't draw a full breath. Nationally, your state's GOP is seen as being just as liberal as Michigan's. The true conservatives aren't heard from much up in Lansing, but then again, that way they don't get blamed for Flint water or requested to resign like that blithering jackass now in office.
Our demise began when the leftists Gerrymandered the voting districts. At that point they had the GOP by the balls.
Despite the party politics, solid Conservatives come out of Ca, more than any other state.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Dori on March 03, 2016, 09:37:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on March 03, 2016, 09:27:31 AM
Our demise began when the leftists Gerrymandered the voting districts. At that point they had the GOP by the balls.
Despite the party politics, solid Conservatives come out of Ca, more than any other state.

Even Arnold Schwarzenegger complained about them. He said the districts looked like they were drawn with an etch-a-sketch. 
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Cali Contrarian on March 03, 2016, 11:07:23 AM
Quote from: quiller on March 03, 2016, 06:21:42 AM
"B-1 Bob" Dornan was the last California conservative. Get over it.  :wink:

Unfortunately, he was also on the take. At the time of his election defeat vs Loretta Sanchez, I wondered why he did not contest a result where he lost by less than 1000 votes in an election where many times that number of votes demonstrably and provably were cast by illegal aliens or other non-citizen voters. It wasn't long before we got the answer.

Which addresses a point I'm always trying to make on this forum -- policy alone should never be adequate justification to earn our vote. When you compromise and elect ethically challenged people, or make excuses for them (*cough* Chris Christie *cough*) bad things happen.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: quiller on March 03, 2016, 12:09:39 PM
Quote from: Cali Contrarian on March 03, 2016, 11:07:23 AM
Unfortunately, he was also on the take. At the time of his election defeat vs Loretta Sanchez, I wondered why he did not contest a result where he lost by less than 1000 votes in an election where many times that number of votes demonstrably and provably were cast by illegal aliens or other non-citizen voters. It wasn't long before we got the answer.

Which addresses a point I'm always trying to make on this forum -- policy alone should never be adequate justification to earn our vote. When you compromise and elect ethically challenged people, or make excuses for them (*cough* Chris Christie *cough*) bad things happen.

Got a few links there to support the notion "he was on the take"...? Compared to, say, any number of RINO blasphemers?

What you WONDER is not the same thing as anything Dornan actually said. He may simply have chosen to retire...with great benefits.

I'm more concerned with what he put into the national record in those speeches (the name for which escapes me so I say after-hours). I'd love to get MP3 downloads of the audio on those: you can hear him ripping off pieces of liberal hide, 4 inches wide.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Charliemyboy on March 03, 2016, 12:09:59 PM
The more I hear Cruz, the more I like him.  He is a great candidate with conservative values with which I agree. 
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: mrconservative on March 03, 2016, 12:24:47 PM
Someone called into Rush stating that everyone talks about that Trump voters are angry, Trump is getting votes from people that are angry with Washington. The caller said that actually, Trump voters arent angry but that Trump voters are scared. People that vote for Trump are scared of losing their investments, losing their retirement, losing their money in one way or another. The caller then said that Ted Cruz is who is garnering the angry voters who are mad at Washington. People that are angry that the majority of people they voted into office in 2010 and 2014 mid term elections are not doing what they promised, and Cruz is someone who is.

Thoughts? Does anyone agree that Trump voters are actually scared, not angry, and that Cruz voters are the angry ones?
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: Cali Contrarian on March 03, 2016, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: quiller on March 03, 2016, 12:09:39 PM
Got a few links there to support the notion "he was on the take"...? Compared to, say, any number of RINO blasphemers?

What you WONDER is not the same thing as anything Dornan actually said. He may simply have chosen to retire...with great benefits.

I'm more concerned with what he put into the national record in those speeches (the name for which escapes me so I say after-hours). I'd love to get MP3 downloads of the audio on those: you can hear him ripping off pieces of liberal hide, 4 inches wide.

I did a cursory search for you, and to my surprise, I see nothing particularly relevant to the issue I was referring to.

It was well documented at the time that he was under investigation by the FBI for bribery related to defense contract lobbyists. I know he was never convicted, but I drew the conclusion that there was something to the allegations, simply deducing from his actions in the aftermath of the election he lost. It certainly had the appearance of a back room deal -- that he not make waves about having his seat stolen and the investigation would be quietly shelved.

As I said, I cannot find reference to anything establishing an admission of guilt, but I cannot find reference to anything regarding the investigation either, which I know took place. This stuff was over 20 years ago.

I still believe I'm essentially right, but I'll admit at this point I can't prove the case. I admired the politics of the man probably as much as you, and I remember being dismayed and feeling betrayed at his unwillingness to take a stand on his own behalf. For instance, he never filed a lawsuit to dispute the election result, which was clearly fraudulent. There has to be a reason for that. As a result, we see the ascension of a political figure (Sanchez) who might very well have been the next corrupt D Senator from California, if not the fact that it appears she will be undone by an even more corrupt, better connected, and more PC-friendly (Black still trumps Latino) politician in Kamala Harris.

So, technically, if I can't really prove the case, I'll hold my condemnation of Dornan in abeyance. He was a great advocate for conservative views, regardless.
Title: Re: “Ted Cruz is emerging as the candidate who could STOP TRUMP”
Post by: quiller on March 04, 2016, 12:21:20 AM

*SNORK*