The most senior RINO in the Senate has been handed his ass.
Yes, we the Tea party are working behind the scenes.
Hatch falls short on second ballot vote by only 32 votes, with 59.2 percent of delegate vote
Salt Lake City, UT- In a historic upset vote, about 4,000 Utah state delegates voted to bring Senator Orrin Hatch to his first primary election in his 36-year history in the Senate. Hatch fell short of the 60 percent threshold needed to avoid a primary, and will face-off against Dan Liljenquist, an energetic conservative underdog with a proven record of tough government reforms.
"Utahns have spoken today, and their message is clear: it's time for a change," commented Russ Walker, national political director for FreedomWorks for America.
"Dan Liljenquist is a rock solid conservative who will uphold the Constitution and stand by Senator Mike Lee in Washington to get America's spending problem under control. Senator Hatch had 36 years to get his act together, but continues to put power over policy. Utahns are ready for a change."
FreedomWorks for America has been working with Utah conservatives since May 2011 to elect the strongest and most consistent advocate for conservative economic policy. Senator Hatch has spent $5.7 million so far in the race for his seventh term, compared to FreedomWorks for America's $700,000.
http://www.freedomworksforamerica.org/press-releases/freedomworks-for-america-congratulates-dan-liljenquist-on-forcing-orrin-hatch-to-his- (http://www.freedomworksforamerica.org/press-releases/freedomworks-for-america-congratulates-dan-liljenquist-on-forcing-orrin-hatch-to-his-)
I'll bet this made Orin Hatch so dog-gone mad! :laugh:
Why don't some of these older guys give it up and retire? Thirty-six years is long enough to make policy in Washington.
Quote from: Holly on April 22, 2012, 11:34:28 AM
I'll bet this made Orin Hatch so dog-gone mad! :laugh:
Why don't some of these older guys give it up and retire? Thirty-six years is long enough to make policy in Washington.
Yep, and the GOP isn't happy either when they lose leadership positions to those evil Tea party bastards. :laugh:
Slowly but surely we'll kick these sumbitches out!
There is no doubt about this being a grass roots movement! It definitely isn't "astroturf".
In the past few weeks, Orrin Hatch has flooded the Talk Radio airwaves with commercials about how Utah needs him and about (if you can believe this!) how conservative he really is! :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, but true conservatives don't go along to get along with the likes of the late Ted Kennedy the way Hatch did!
For every 10 Hatch commercials there was maybe 1 Dan Liljenquist commercial!
Hatch has got a fight on his hands and with any luck at all, he'll lose! If not, I will vote for any party that picks up Liljenquist!
-Dr Watt
Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2012, 11:48:47 AM
Yep, and the GOP isn't happy either when they lose leadership positions to those evil Tea party bastards. :laugh:
Slowly but surely we'll kick these sumbitches out!
Most of them want to hang on until their last dying breath.
Help the employment rate, retire and go fishing!
Quote from: Dr_Watt on April 22, 2012, 12:16:00 PM
There is no doubt about this being a grass roots movement! It definitely isn't "astroturf".
In the past few weeks, Orrin Hatch has flooded the Talk Radio airwaves with commercials about how Utah needs him and about (if you can believe this!) how conservative he really is! :rolleyes:
I'm sorry, but true conservatives don't go along to get along with the likes of the late Ted Kennedy the way Hatch did!
For every 10 Hatch commercials there was maybe 1 Dan Liljenquist commercial!
Hatch has got a fight on his hands and with any luck at all, he'll lose! If not, I will vote for any party that picks up Liljenquist!
-Dr Watt
I did a search for news of his defeat and it's interesting how much spin is involved in this.
They are trying extremely hard to downplay his defeat, and not once mentioned how much this defeat is a referendum on the RINO in the GOP.
Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2012, 12:20:40 PM
I did a search for news of his defeat and it's interesting how much spin is involved in this.
They are trying extremely hard to downplay his defeat, and not once mentioned how much this defeat is a referendum on the RINO in the GOP.
For all of its reputation of being a "conservative" state, Utah is a very RINO place! Most Republicans out here are RINOS, and the government itself is definitely a Big Government Republican Government. Oh, and they love their taxes too! The top 73% of Utah taxpayers end up paying Utah's highest tax rate!
-Dr Watt
Quote from: Dr_Watt on April 22, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
For all of its reputation of being a "conservative" state, Utah is a very RINO place! Most Republicans out here are RINOS, and the government itself is definitely a Big Government Republican Government. Oh, and they love their taxes too! The top 73% of Utah taxpayers end up paying Utah's highest tax rate!
-Dr Watt
I wonder if it has anything to do with Mormons giving much of their paycheck to the Church?
Maybe kind of accustomed to giving up their hard earned money, its second nature and they don't have an issue with it?
Quote from: Solar on April 22, 2012, 12:34:02 PM
I wonder if it has anything to do with Mormons giving much of their paycheck to the Church?
Maybe kind of accustomed to giving up their hard earned money, its second nature and they don't have an issue with it?
I'm sure that is part of it.
-Dr Watt
Quote from: Dr_Watt on April 22, 2012, 12:50:22 PM
I'm sure that is part of it.
-Dr Watt
I take it you live there?
This just made my day Solar!!!! :-)
Quote from: taxed on April 22, 2012, 02:34:57 PM
This just made my day Solar!!!! :-)
Mine too! :cool:
The spin even made it better, in that he is trying to justify getting his ass kicked, yet have the full support of the GOP RINO, and still got his ass handed to him?
That's rich! :laugh:
Orin Hatch's voting record (http://www.ontheissues.org/Senate/Orrin_Hatch.htm)
Quote from: Dr_Watt on April 22, 2012, 06:22:06 PM
Yup!
-Dr Watt
And we thank you.Oh and Hatch hates you, you radical, you! :laugh:
"I despise these people," Orrin Hatch told NPR last week, "and I'm not the guy you come in and dump on without getting punched in the mouth." What would make the powerful 36-year incumbent senator from Utah say such a hostile thing? Who does he "despise"? What did they do? Who, exactly, does he want to punch "in the mouth"?The answer: Americans participating in the democratic process. Hatch's threat was directed at the citizen activists — some 15,000 in Utah and 1.5 million around the country — who are shining a bright light on his record in the Senate and raising serious questions about Hatch's commitment to economic freedom.
Some of Hatch's attacks have been aimed directly at FreedomWorks, the grassroots group I'm the president of, which he insults as being "run by two libertarians who don't really believe in the Republican Party." I've been called far worse than "libertarian," and I know FreedomWorks Chairman Dick Armey has too. It happens when you come from the Republican wing of the Republican Party. And we can take it.
But when the senator turns his fire on his own constituents, everyday Americans who are disappointed in their elected official's record, he's gone too far.
"Some of their disciples here who are Utahn say they're not Republicans but they are going to take over the Republican Party," Hatch has said. "We don't want radicals to take over our party." Radicals? Isn't that what Nancy Pelosi and President Obama call us?
Presumably, Sen. Hatch is not threatening actual physical violence against his own constituents, who have done nothing more than raise questions about his record. But it is an intimidating threat, nonetheless, and terribly unbecoming of a 36-year senior senator who is running for re-election on the promise that only he, as the next chairman of the prestigious and powerful Senate Finance Committee, can dig us out of the deep budget hole caused by entitlements, and repeal government-run health care. Given his history, Hatch's constituents are wise to be skeptical.
Sen. Hatch single-handedly rescued Hillarycare from the dustbin of history by working with Sen. Edward Kennedy in 1997 to create SCHIP, an expensive entitlement program and essential building block for Obamacare. The progressive left's strategy, then and now, is to add populations young and old to the ranks of government care until the system reaches critical mass. SCHIP paved the way for the final push — Obamacare. Indeed, Hatch in 1993 sponsored the same individual health care mandate that we are now battling in the Supreme Court. He also voted for Medicare Part D, a massive unfunded liability now totaling near $10 trillion.
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/20/conduct-unbecoming-a-senator/ (http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/20/conduct-unbecoming-a-senator/)
Quote from: Holly on April 22, 2012, 11:34:28 AM
I'll bet this made Orin Hatch so dog-gone mad! :laugh:
Why don't some of these older guys give it up and retire? Thirty-six years is long enough to make policy in Washington.
Seniority in committees, and the self-importance which goes with it. Absolute power may corrupt absolutely, but in Orrin Hatch's case it's at least a hard-baked crust.
True, Hatch is just one of the old bull elephants who will cling to power as long as he can find a sucker to back him. (The Whigs complained when it was their turn.) This stuff goes in cycles, like populism.
Rampant greed from the Steal Mill in Washington? That goes on forever.
As I understand it Hatch wanted to avoid having to run in a primary, as he isn't that popular among the actual rank and file of the party. If he had gotten 60% of the delegates at the nominating convention he could have avoided a run off.So he concentrated on working the nominating machinery, as opposed to attempting to win over the public - and it may come back to bite him in the ass.
You know, if I had a time machine, I'd really like to travel into the past and tell the delegates at the Constitutional Convention to put term limits in.
Quote from: mdgiles on April 23, 2012, 10:45:37 AM
You know, if I had a time machine, I'd really like to travel into the past and tell the delegates at the Constitutional Convention to put term limits in.
Imagine all the problems that would solve themselves if they could have foreseen these lifelong corrupt, mummified crooks holding on to their positions, with no interest in anything except how it would personally benefit them.
It should also apply to the United State Supreme Court.