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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 01:26:23 PM

Title: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 01:26:23 PM
QuoteDonald Trump would defeat Hillary Clinton head-to-head, a new polls shows.

The new SurveyUSA poll put Trump at 45 percent versus 40 percent for Clinton.

Trump also beat out all other declared and potential Democratic candidates, the poll of 1,000 adults shows: Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont by 44 percent to 40 percent;
Vice President Joe Biden by 44 percent to 42 percent;
Former Vice President Al Gore by 44 percent to 41 percent.
The poll did not ask the voters about other declared Democratic candidates Lincoln Chafee, Martin O'Malley, or Jim Webb, all of whom are scoring low in national polls.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/trump-hillary-surveyusa-poll/2015/09/05/id/673737/#ixzz3kthmCh4X
Wow!! Trump is beating the whole democrat field! If that doesn't show their weakness nothing will! The problem for Trump now is he is everyone's target. Hillary is attacking him as is Jeb. I would expect the rest of the RINO's to really start jumping on him to. With the attention on trump this is really good news and timing for Cruz and Carson to take the offensive against the others!
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: carlb on September 05, 2015, 02:16:56 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 01:26:23 PM
Wow!! Trump is beating the whole democrat field! If that doesn't show their weakness nothing will! The problem for Trump now is he is everyone's target. Hillary is attacking him as is Jeb. I would expect the rest of the RINO's to really start jumping on him to. With the attention on trump this is really good news and timing for Cruz and Carson to take the offensive against the others!

When it comes down to it, ANYBODY would beat Hillary. Polls done in this way are meaningless. The Dem side isn't inspired to get out and vote for Hillary. Our side we s DETERMINED to vote. A democrat can't win in 2016
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 02:22:52 PM
Quote from: carlb on September 05, 2015, 02:16:56 PM
When it comes down to it, ANYBODY would beat Hillary. Polls done in this way are meaningless. The Dem side isn't inspired to get out and vote for Hillary. Our side we s DETERMINED to vote. A day mocrat can't win in 2016
Quotewhich carried a margin of error of 3.3 percent.
Are they wrong on this margin of error?


Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: Possum on September 05, 2015, 02:47:25 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 01:26:23 PM
Wow!! Trump is beating the whole democrat field! If that doesn't show their weakness nothing will! The problem for Trump now is he is everyone's target. Hillary is attacking him as is Jeb. I would expect the rest of the RINO's to really start jumping on him to. With the attention on trump this is really good news and timing for Cruz and Carson to take the offensive against the others!
I checked the poll but did not see if the poll went by the electoral vote. Popular vote means little if hillery gets 270 electoral votes.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
Quote from: s3779m on September 05, 2015, 02:47:25 PM
I checked the poll but did not see if the poll went by the electoral vote. Popular vote means little if hillery gets 270 electoral votes.
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No Poll goes by electors? This is a general opinion poll, Electors are gained in state wide elections. The only thing this poll does show accurately this far out is Clinton is in real trouble. She has been on a steady decline since the spring and this is the first poll that shows her loosing. 3 months ago she beat everyone!
More that that it shows a national rejection of all the democrats running or thinking of running. Their whole party is screwed!
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: kroz on September 06, 2015, 05:00:57 PM
Hillary is quickly becoming irrelevant.

Even Sanders is beating her by 9 points in New Hampshire!

She's toast!
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: carlb on September 06, 2015, 05:09:31 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 05, 2015, 02:59:58 PM
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No Poll goes by electors? This is a general opinion poll, Electors are gained in state wide elections. The only thing this poll does show accurately this far out is Clinton is in real trouble. She has been on a steady decline since the spring and this is the first poll that shows her loosing. 3 months ago she beat everyone!
More that that it shows a national rejection of all the democrats running or thinking of running. Their whole party is screwed!

Unless we stop the INVASION, any victory is shortlived.

Florida is moving libtard. So is Texas. If they do, its over. Obama and the Dems know that. The rinos are willing to help them get there.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
QuoteSHOCK POLL: Trump receives 25% of black vote in general election matchup

SurveyUSA poll released Friday shows in a hypothetical matchup with Hillary Clinton, Trump is ahead 45% to 40%.

But digging into the racial breakdown of the respondents is revealing. For example, the poll finds 25% of black respondents say they would vote for Trump over Clinton.
SNIP
The SurveyUSA poll finds 31% of Hispanics would vote for Trump. In the 2012 general election, Romney received only 27%, according to the Roper Center.

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/

I would think it would be Carson drawing the Black vote not Trump!
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: supsalemgr on September 07, 2015, 11:51:15 AM
Quote from: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
I would think it would be Carson drawing the Black vote not Trump!

This poll obviously was a Trump vs. Hillary contest. Carson would probably do well also.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2015, 12:14:41 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 07, 2015, 11:51:15 AM
This poll obviously was a Trump vs. Hillary contest. Carson would probably do well also.
It's why I didn't even bother posting in this BS thread.
Even the disclaimer at the bottom freely admitted it was bogus.

"* Too few respondents of this type were interviewed for this data to be meaningful."

They gave no metrics, stats of any kind, so I'm guessing Trump paid for it.

Scroll to the very bottom, very very bottom right.
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: tac on September 07, 2015, 02:39:57 PM
Another useless poll.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 05:07:37 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 07, 2015, 12:14:41 PM
It's why I didn't even bother posting in this BS thread.
Even the disclaimer at the bottom freely admitted it was bogus.

"* Too few respondents of this type were interviewed for this data to be meaningful."

They gave no metrics, stats of any kind, so I'm guessing Trump paid for it.

Scroll to the very bottom, very very bottom right.
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d950cadf-05ce-4148-a125-35c0cdab26c6
Margin of Sampling Error: ± 3.3%
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 05:07:37 PM
Margin of Sampling Error: ± 3.3%
Did you even read the page? They admitted the poll was useless.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: Billy's bayonet on September 07, 2015, 05:53:19 PM
I have a feeling that a lot of those polled were Democrats and perhaps Independants.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 06:00:20 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 07, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
Did you even read the page? They admitted the poll was useless.

 
Quote** Too few respondents of this type were interviewed for this data to be meaningful.
Only in areas of data marked with the double asterisks! Or in references to democrats running republicans weren't included in the results! mainly Questions #6,7,8.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2015, 06:11:28 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 06:00:20 PM
  Only in areas of data marked with the double asterisks! Or in references to democrats running republicans weren't included in the results! mainly Questions #6,7,8.
Where are the metrics, people polled, ages etc?
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 06:13:38 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 07, 2015, 06:11:28 PM
Where are the metrics, people polled, ages etc?
It's all in the tables you linked too!
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2015, 06:34:57 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 06:13:38 PM
It's all in the tables you linked too!
I see it now, my browser didn't finish loading earlier.
My bad, now that I can see the metrics it makes a lot more sense.
But it also raises an even bigger question. Are blacks really going to vote for a Pub?
I won't even touch the 30% Mexican Latino support. :lol:
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: Jarlaxle on September 07, 2015, 06:41:12 PM
Quote from: carlb on September 05, 2015, 02:16:56 PM
When it comes down to it, ANYBODY would beat Hillary. Polls done in this way are meaningless. The Dem side isn't inspired to get out and vote for Hillary. Our side we s DETERMINED to vote. A democrat can't win in 2016

Never underestimate the Republicans' ability to put together a circular firing squad.  Anyone should have not just beaten, but TROUNCED Obama in 2012...except the dude that got nominated, a wishy-washy moderate with no core beliefs and all the appeal of cold oatmeal.
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 06:42:01 PM
Quote from: Solar on September 07, 2015, 06:34:57 PM
I see it now, my browser didn't finish loading earlier.
My bad, now that I can see the metrics it makes a lot more sense.
But it also raises an even bigger question. Are blacks really going to vote for a Pub?
I won't even touch the 30% Mexican Latino support. :lol:
We'll have to wait until other polls come out to really see if it is not just a freak poll. but if those numbers are true, Wow!!
Title: Re: SurveyUSA Poll Puts Trump Above Clinton By 5 Points
Post by: Solar on September 07, 2015, 06:53:20 PM
Quote from: redbeard on September 07, 2015, 06:42:01 PM
We'll have to wait until other polls come out to really see if it is not just a freak poll. but if those numbers are true, Wow!!
The problem with polling, is they know exactly what time to call people for certain responses.
I read about it years ago, like calling right before dinner evokes the opposite response they get if they call after dinner, etc.
It's for this reason polls should be solely for entertainment, but unfortunately they're used to influence the masses.