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Title: Supreme Court to take case on baker refused to sell wedding cake
Post by: walkstall on June 30, 2017, 10:47:05 AM
Supreme Court to take case on baker who refused to sell wedding cake to gay couple.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-to-take-case-on-baker-who-refused-to-sell-wedding-cake-to-gay-couple/2017/06/26/0c2f8606-0cde-11e7-9d5a-a83e627dc120_story.html?utm_term=.4c1b17385871
Title: Re: Supreme Court to take case on baker refused to sell wedding cake
Post by: Bronx on July 01, 2017, 09:05:52 AM
The sad part is the bakers can't even tell the gay squad to kiss his butt on this....they might take him up on his offer.
Title: Re: Supreme Court to take case on baker refused to sell wedding cake
Post by: supsalemgr on July 01, 2017, 10:07:20 AM
Here is the challenge the baker faces. There was precedent set in the Lester Maddox, Pickrick Restaurant case in the early sixties. Maddox was actually a democrat racist who refused service to Blacks and even sold autographed axe handles at his restaurant in the ATL. The SC did not address the racial aspect as much as the fact the restaurant was open to the public and interstate commerce applied. It was ruled he could not exclude anyone since he was open to the public. Consequently any business open to the public has distinct limitations on who they may or may not provide goods and and services.
Title: Re: Supreme Court to take case on baker refused to sell wedding cake
Post by: Solar on July 01, 2017, 10:26:15 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 01, 2017, 10:07:20 AM
Here is the challenge the baker faces. There was precedent set in the Lester Maddox, Pickrick Restaurant case in the early sixties. Maddox was actually a democrat racist who refused service to Blacks and even sold autographed axe handles at his restaurant in the ATL. The SC did not address the racial aspect as much as the fact the restaurant was open to the public and interstate commerce applied. It was ruled he could not exclude anyone since he was open to the public. Consequently any business open to the public has distinct limitations on who they may or may not provide goods and and services.
That's what the left wants us to believe and they are going to receive a stinging rebuke from SCOTUS.

The First Amendment supersedes the court's findings regardless, considering this is a religious issue and has nothing to do with discrimination.
In truth, the customer is breaking the law in demanding the business go against their religious faith, this should never have even been entertained in a court of law in the first place.

Just imagine if a pedophile demanded a cake celebrating his desires, or a Muscum ordering a cake with a bomb decoration and planes flying into the twin towers, does anyone in their right mind think any business should be forced to go against their convictions?
Of course not, common sense says's they find a different venue to serve them.
Their rights were in no way infringed upon, they can always go somewhere else.
Title: Re: Supreme Court to take case on baker refused to sell wedding cake
Post by: supsalemgr on July 01, 2017, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 01, 2017, 10:26:15 AM
That's what the left wants us to believe and they are going to receive a stinging rebuke from SCOTUS.

The First Amendment supersedes the court's findings regardless, considering this is a religious issue and has nothing to do with discrimination.
In truth, the customer is breaking the law in demanding the business go against their religious faith, this should never have even been entertained in a court of law in the first place.

Just imagine if a pedophile demanded a cake celebrating his desires, or a Muscum ordering a cake with a bomb decoration and planes flying into the twin towers, does anyone in their right mind think any business should be forced to go against their convictions?
Of course not, common sense says's they find a different venue to serve them.
Their rights were in no way infringed upon, they can always go somewhere else.

I hope you are right. However, being a public business is a tricky question.
Title: Re: Supreme Court to take case on baker refused to sell wedding cake
Post by: Solar on July 01, 2017, 12:19:38 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 01, 2017, 11:22:07 AM
I hope you are right. However, being a public business is a tricky question.
SCOTUS is not the final arbiter, Congress writes law and can overrule SCOTUS very easily, SCOTUS merely interprets law and they've done one piss poor job of it for decades.
Title: Re: Supreme Court to take case on baker refused to sell wedding cake
Post by: supsalemgr on July 01, 2017, 12:32:47 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 01, 2017, 12:19:38 PM
SCOTUS is not the final arbiter, Congress writes law and can overrule SCOTUS very easily, SCOTUS merely interprets law and they've done one piss poor job of it for decades.

Congress has become less effective to the Executive and Judicial out of choice. Their priority is just get re-elected.
Title: Re: Supreme Court to take case on baker refused to sell wedding cake
Post by: Solar on July 01, 2017, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 01, 2017, 12:32:47 PM
Congress has become less effective to the Executive and Judicial out of choice. Their priority is just get re-elected.
Exactly, and it angers the shit out of me that they refuse to do their job of protecting the Constitution.