Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2012, 04:36:26 PM
I gave you solid proof as to what is behind the OWS movement

You havent given solid proof of that at all. And you've argued horribly, calling names and trying to belittle your opposition rather than supplying valid points.

Solar, You need to re-read what you've actually had to allow, and whats transpired here, I hope eventually you will see reality.

Quote from: taxed on August 26, 2012, 11:15:17 PM
Fish, this isn't a place for you to wax about your Marxism and anti-capitalism.  You need to start discussing.

This thread isnt a place for you to lie about me, Taxi. From the start you've lied and called me names. So please, either argue like an adult or go away. I hope you choose the first rather than the latter, I bet you have some good stuff to offer once you get through this strange emotional finger pointing.  :)

Quote from: Solar on August 26, 2012, 04:36:26 PM
Who writes the laws that governs business?

Ok again, back to the conversation...


"Apply logic and think for a moment, Solar. Step out of the box and realize that the power provided by corrupt government to corrupt corporations will not simply go away by shrinking government. Lessening restrictions on proven corrupt businesses will just allow for more corruption, especially with the current laws in place. 

The problem is that you seem to want to blame government for their corrupt ways but wish to  allow those that supply the means of corruption a pass.  If you'll think logically you'll realize that it's the collusion of corrupt businesses and those 'that want to line their pockets in government', Like Rat said, that's the real problem. "







Solar, when big business owns the people who write the laws then big business is doing the writing. Do you really not see that?

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 27, 2012, 06:24:41 PM

This thread isnt a place for you to lie about me, Taxi. From the start you've lied and called me names. So please, either argue like an adult or go away. I hope you choose the first rather than the latter, I bet you have some good stuff to offer once you get through this strange emotional finger pointing.  :)

Fish, I'm not asking you about your feelings.  I'm telling you to start supporting your posts.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 27, 2012, 06:27:21 PM

Ok again, back to the conversation...


"Apply logic and think for a moment, Solar. Step out of the box and realize that the power provided by corrupt government to corrupt corporations will not simply go away by shrinking government. Lessening restrictions on proven corrupt businesses will just allow for more corruption, especially with the current laws in place. 

The problem is that you seem to want to blame government for their corrupt ways but wish to  allow those that supply the means of corruption a pass.  If you'll think logically you'll realize that it's the collusion of corrupt businesses and those 'that want to line their pockets in government', Like Rat said, that's the real problem. "







Solar, when big business owns the people who write the laws then big business is doing the writing. Do you really not see that?

Fish, I'm not going to allow you to insult the business world and put them on the same level as government.  Voters put politicians in place.  If you aren't going to acknowledge this, then tell me now.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 27, 2012, 06:21:04 PM

You havent given solid proof of that at all. And you've argued horribly, calling names and trying to belittle your opposition rather than supplying valid points.

Solar, You need to re-read what you've actually had to allow, and whats transpired here, I hope eventually you will see reality.

Instead of digging through this long thread yo find the posts, I'll just give you the source.
Read the OP and get back to me.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/an-inside-look-at-the-ows-movement/

Fish, THIS offers conclusive proof OWS is a deranged, sociopathic organization....

QuoteOn Wednesday, June 13, members of the Occupy movement protested against a conference dedicated to combatting child sex trafficking — thus, the Occupiers in essence were coming out in favor of one of society's most loathsome moral crimes.

The protesters mostly were members of Occupy Oakland Patriarchy, a group within the overall Occupy movement tasked with overthrowing our civilization's "patriarchy."

The conference which so infuriated them was called HEAT Watch, short for the National Human Exploitation And Trafficking Watch Conference.

If there's one issue that unites Americans of all political stripes, it's the sexual enslavement of children. Whatever our opinions on other issues, we all agree that sex trafficking and the prostituting of children is an outrage and a tragedy. Thus, conference attendees included liberal, moderate and conservative politicians; progressive nonprofit organizations; law enforcement groups; religious leaders; and (according to the conference Web site) "social services, medical providers, mental health, education, probation, and community-based organizations." In short: Everybody.

Everybody, that is, except Occupy Wall Street, who somehow found a way to oppose the abolition of child sexual slavery. In order to justify this seemingly incomprehensible and repugnant position, the Occupiers performed some of the most amazing moral gymnastics you'll ever encounter. I'll give them a lot of room to explain themselves in a moment, but first let's get a glimpse of the conference, the protest, a small counter-protest, and the completely bizarre behavior of the Occupiers.

http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/06/18/occupy-oakland-protests-in-favor-of-child-sex-trafficking/

Please explain how you can support a group with views this vile.

Quote from: taxed on August 27, 2012, 06:34:31 PM
Fish, I'm not going to allow you to insult the business world and put them on the same level as government.  Voters put politicians in place.  If you aren't going to acknowledge this, then tell me now.

Taxi, Im not going to allow you to insult the government without insulting the business world for they are in bed together. Politicians need money to win seats, businesses provide much of the money and rip the people off, think bailouts.

If you're not going to recognize this fact, then tell me now.

Quote from: quiller on August 28, 2012, 03:38:23 AM
Fish, THIS offers conclusive proof OWS is a deranged, sociopathic organization....

http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2012/06/18/occupy-oakland-protests-in-favor-of-child-sex-trafficking/

Please explain how you can support a group with views this vile.

That article is extremely bias and railing against a group of OWS that was protesting because they believe-

"The H.EAT. conference is a conference of pigs and their nonprofit lackeys to increase the harassment, imprisonment, marginalization and criminalization of sex workers. Fronting as a conference against 'child trafficking,' this conference brings pigs and nonprofits together to develop policing strategies that line their pockets..."

https://www.facebook.com/events/114828361990337/

So their not vile, IMO, maybe mislead, but not vile.

I am intrigued. Show of hands; how many here regularly read and post on liberal sites? Yet I have yet to be on any conservative site that didn't have at least a few Libs, show up and start spouting their usual fecal matter. It's as if they can't stand the thought of anyone holding an opinion contrary to theirs. An inherent inability to admit that there can be any other valid points of view except their own. It's the left and right coasts insisting the "flyover" country must conform to their vision, while "flyover" country is willing to let them be as weird as they want to be on the coasts, as long as they leave them alone.

Quote from: mdgiles on August 28, 2012, 05:52:36 AM
I am intrigued. Show of hands; how many here regularly read and post on liberal sites? Yet I have yet to be on any conservative site that didn't have at least a few Libs, show up and start spouting their usual fecal matter. It's as if they can't stand the thought of anyone holding an opinion contrary to theirs. An inherent inability to admit that there can be any other valid points of view except their own. It's the left and right coasts insisting the "flyover" country must conform to their vision, while "flyover" country is willing to let them be as weird as they want to be on the coasts, as long as they leave them alone.

They act as though children voluntarily go to work in the sex industry.

http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/13400/youth_sex_workers_organize_for_their_rights/#.T-DQ4nY9hCg.twitter

Quote from: kramarat on August 28, 2012, 05:57:50 AM
They act as though children voluntarily go to work in the sex industry.

http://inthesetimes.com/working/entry/13400/youth_sex_workers_organize_for_their_rights/#.T-DQ4nY9hCg.twitter

Of course they do. Since most of the child sex happens in the Third World, and Third Worlders are morally superior to First Worlders/sarc. I mean, it can't be that Third World parents are selling their children into the sex trade/sarc!

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 28, 2012, 05:28:16 AM


So their not vile, IMO, maybe mislead, but not vile.

HELLO!!!! That's what we've been trying to tell you, and why the two groups have absolutely nothing in common.

Let that sink in for a moment!!!!

Quote from: mdgiles on August 28, 2012, 06:06:55 AM
Of course they do. Since most of the child sex happens in the Third World, and Third Worlders are morally superior to First Worlders/sarc. I mean, it can't be that Third World parents are selling their children into the sex trade/sarc!

I honestly don't know what to say. Kids in the US end up on the streets for a multitude of reasons. They end up having sex for survival, and are scooped up by pimps that keep the bulk of the money for themselves.

Do these kids need help, other than being thrown in jail? Absolutely!!

The compassionate left's idea of help, is to keep them in the streets so they can continue to be exploited. It's sick.

I'm sure that includes free government sponsored abortions on demand too.

It is rather obvious at this point that you support OWS, as anything posted for you to see the completely rotten core this group has has forced us to read excuse after excuse for them.

" A penny will hide the biggest star in the Universe if you hold it close enough to your eye." ~Samuel Grafton