Quote from: JustKari on August 22, 2012, 11:34:41 AM
It is about like trying to explain to a blind person what the sky looks like.

Difference being, the blind person is open to learning....

Quote from: Solar on August 22, 2012, 12:34:20 PM

Difference being, the blind person is open to learning....

fish has been pretty quiet. Maybe he's doing some learning.

Quote from: kramarat on August 22, 2012, 01:30:49 PM
fish has been pretty quiet. Maybe he's doing some learning.

I think he knows the truth, he just doesn't like it, so he's searching talking point memos from the DNC/OWS headquarters.

Quote from: Solar on August 22, 2012, 01:40:26 PM
I think he knows the truth, he just doesn't like it, so he's searching talking point memos from the DNC/OWS headquarters.

I wish OWS and the Tea Party were the same......................conservatives.

If I had the time, I could sit down and trace just about every problem we have, back to government.

The left wants to kill corporations!!!! Hell, pretty soon, the corporations and the people that work for them, will be the only ones paying taxes....................then who are they going to blame?

Quote from: kramarat on August 22, 2012, 01:57:40 PM
I wish OWS and the Tea Party were the same......................conservatives.

If I had the time, I could sit down and trace just about every problem we have, back to government.

The left wants to kill corporations!!!! Hell, pretty soon, the corporations and the people that work for them, will be the only ones paying taxes....................then who are they going to blame?

The top 1/2 %.........

Quote from: walkstall on August 22, 2012, 03:35:38 PM
The top 1/2 %.........

Yeah. The top 1/2 % will be the greedy people that still have jobs, and don't want their taxes raised.

Quote from: kramarat on August 22, 2012, 03:17:42 AM
There are an incredible amount of people, that believe that the Tea Party is a group of right wing extremists, that are motivated by racism and greed. It's how they've been portrayed from their inception.................including by Obama himself.

The only thing that OWS and the TP have in common, is anger and frustration. Fish is a lib, so he sees that as being the same.

I dont believe the tea party is full of people motivated by racism and greed. I do believe that both the tea party and the OWS have bad people that believe in falsehoods within there ranks, but I dont think they are the majority in either.

The tea party and the OWS not only have frustration in common but who they are frustrated with as well. We are all sick of greedy reps taking from the people and giving to corrupt businesses that buy them.

It's a simple line to draw, and one that needs be drawn, because as of now we are divided, and you know what happens to a house that's divided, don't you?

Quote from: kramarat on August 22, 2012, 01:30:49 PM
fish has been pretty quiet.

Gotta work, and go to school, brutha. :P

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 22, 2012, 06:48:01 PM

I dont believe the tea party is full of people motivated by racism and greed. I do believe that both the tea party and the OWS have bad people that believe in falsehoods within there ranks, but I dont think they are the majority in either.

The tea party and the OWS not only have frustration in common but who they are frustrated with as well. We are all sick of greedy reps taking from the people and giving to corrupt businesses that buy them.

It's a simple line to draw, and one that needs be drawn, because as of now we are divided, and you know what happens to a house that's divided, don't you?

You really have no concept of what the Tea Party is. I think we're done here.......................again.

Quote from: kramarat on August 23, 2012, 02:56:33 AM
You really have no concept of what the Tea Party is. I think we're done here.......................again.

No links to support his ideas that TP contains "bad people that believe in falsehoods within there ranks," which leads me to wonder where he/she/it gets that information.

Say, didja know that Michelle Obama is actually a modern-day Jack the Ripper, and that Hussein himself sodomizes entire packs of Cub Scouts---on the altar of local churches---during services?

No proof needed. You can take me WORD for it---can'tcha, Fish?

Bah.

Quote from: quiller on August 23, 2012, 03:05:13 AM
No links to support his ideas that TP contains "bad people that believe in falsehoods within there ranks," which leads me to wonder where he/she/it gets that information.

Say, didja know that Michelle Obama is actually a modern-day Jack the Ripper, and that Hussein himself sodomizes entire packs of Cub Scouts---on the altar of local churches---during services?

No proof needed. You can take me WORD for it---can'tcha, Fish?

Bah.

I think I've been able to simplify things to the point, that even fish could understand.................no links needed.

Hey fish, you think OWS and the TP are the same, because they're both angry. I want you to think about the following terms and definitions:

We The People-

Tea Party: We The People Of The United States of America.

OWS: We the people of the global underclass.


Mission Statement-

Tea Party: Limiting government. Repairing and restoring the US Constitution.

OWS: Toppling the corporate oligarchs, creating equality and fairness for the masses. (Marxism)

Methods Employed-

Tea Party: Conducting peaceful rallies in order to promote conservative principles, conservative candidates, and the founding principles of 
                 the USA.

OWS: Taking to the streets and forming encampments, in European style demonstrations. Disrupting commerce and antagonizing business
          owners. All while demanding change.


Maybe this will help you to understand why they are not the same.

Quote from: quiller on August 23, 2012, 03:05:13 AM
No links to support his ideas that TP contains "bad people that believe in falsehoods within there ranks," which leads me to wonder where he/she/it gets that information.

I personally know people that are among the tea party ranks who are racist. But if you need links to support the claim that "bad people that believe in falsehoods are among both the OWS and the tea party", then I can provide them..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/14/inge-marler-tea-party-arkansas-leader-racist-joke_n_1597334.html

"The remarks, which suggested that African-Americans are on welfare, were condemned by Tea Party"

Even the rest of the tea party had to "condemn" the remarks. That's one instance. There are more things out there that show some falsehoods as well, on both sides, you should do some research.   

Quote from: kramarat on August 23, 2012, 03:34:17 AM
Hey fish, you think OWS and the TP are the same

I believe they have common ground to meet on.  We either come together against a powerful enemy, or keep being robbed. Pretty simple really. If you need links to support the fact that we've been robbed I can supply those for you guys and gals as well. Just let me know. :)

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 23, 2012, 05:43:48 AM

I personally know people that are among the tea party ranks who are racist. But if you need links to support the claim that "bad people that believe in falsehoods are among both the OWS and the tea party", then I can provide them..

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/14/inge-marler-tea-party-arkansas-leader-racist-joke_n_1597334.html

"The remarks, which suggested that African-Americans are on welfare, were condemned by Tea Party"

Even the rest of the tea party had to "condemn" the remarks. That's one instance. There are more things out there that show some falsehoods as well, on both sides, you should do some research.   

There was nothing racist or crazy in your links.
The left has ushered huge numbers of blacks, (as well as anyone else they could sign up), into foodstamps and welfare, for decades. Obama has injected steroids into the programs. This is all done, not because of caring, but for votes.

Conservatives want to see everyone getting an education, going to work, and paying into taxes, rather than receiving them. For this, we are called racists. The comment was accurate.

Quote from: kramarat on August 23, 2012, 06:01:58 AM
There was nothing racist or crazy in your links.
The left has ushered huge numbers of blacks, (as well as anyone else they could sign up), into foodstamps and welfare, for decades. Obama has injected steroids into the programs. This is all done, not because of caring, but for votes.

Conservatives want to see everyone getting an education, going to work, and paying into taxes, rather than receiving them. For this, we are called racists. The comment was accurate.

Link:

This is not about compassion.

http://times247.com/articles/is-obama-starting-a-u-s-welfare-state