Quote from: kramarat on August 18, 2012, 11:46:44 AM
I think Obama wants to lose. He has managed to turn America on itself.....................next stop, United Nations. He is bored. He wants to run the planet.

Blaming one man for whats happening to us is like expecting Romney to be anything other than a corporate owned million dollar man.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 18, 2012, 10:56:36 PM
Blaming one man for whats happening to us is like expecting Romney to be anything other than a corporate owned million dollar man.

How is Obama not responsible? Especially after so may executive orders...

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 18, 2012, 10:53:50 PM
No. But I didn't say it did. I said that both sides are equally corrupted and then thanked you for further elaborating my point with a link.

Which brings us full circle back to the Tea party, new members with the goal of changing the path of Govt.
Whether you agree with their politics or not is of no consequence, they are there for one reason, to give power back to the people and get special interests out of Govt, shrink Govts overreaching agenda.
The Tea party is trying to change the very thing you rail against. 

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 18, 2012, 10:56:36 PM
Blaming one man for whats happening to us is like expecting Romney to be anything other than a corporate owned million dollar man.

If Romney's corporate owned, he's owned by the corporation that he created. I doubt that scenario exists.

You know what's funny?

The people that are calling Romney a criminal, haven't passed a budget in almost 4 years....................which is illegal.

They are also managing to spend $1 trillion more per year than they are bringing in.

If Romney was a tax cheat and a criminal, he would already be in jail.

Laughing at the left is becoming a national pastime.

Quote from: kramarat on August 19, 2012, 06:44:37 AM
If Romney's corporate owned, he's owned by the corporation that he created. I doubt that scenario exists.

You know what's funny?

The people that are calling Romney a criminal, haven't passed a budget in almost 4 years....................which is illegal.

They are also managing to spend $1 trillion more per year than they are bringing in.

If Romney was a tax cheat and a criminal, he would already be in jail.

Laughing at the left is becoming a national pastime.

Laughing at those that believe the lies of the leftists is even more laughable.
How gullible does one have to be?

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2012, 07:10:28 AM
Laughing at those that believe the lies of the leftists is even more laughable.
How gullible does one have to be?

As screwed up as the situation is, I try to have fun with it.

I have a lot of left leaning friends. When I point out to them that liking Obama, is the same as liking an ever expanding government that has more and more control over our lives, and is spending us into oblivion........................they become speechless. The wind goes out of their sails. Because they know I'm right.

Quote from: kramarat on August 19, 2012, 07:21:48 AM
As screwed up as the situation is, I try to have fun with it.

I have a lot of left leaning friends. When I point out to them that liking Obama, is the same as liking an ever expanding government that has more and more control over our lives, and is spending us into oblivion........................they become speechless. The wind goes out of their sails. Because they know I'm right.

When you point out the facts that add up to advocating cancer, they realize just how bad it is, but in typical liberal form, justify it emotionally to themselves as in cognitive dissonance.

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2012, 08:05:56 AM
When you point out the facts that add up to advocating cancer, they realize just how bad it is, but in typical liberal form, justify it emotionally to themselves as in cognitive dissonance.

I go out of my way, not to rub salt in their wounds. I've actually managed to convert several people...................well, they converted themselves, I just helped.

I just pound away at fiscal conservatism. Once they understand that it's okay to be a fiscal conservative with liberal social veiws, they start coming around.

Then we can move on to talking about the fact that the government has become far to big, powerful, and mostly, expensive.

They are always a little surprised to find out that I am not in love with the republican party. It's a good ice breaker.

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2012, 06:33:39 AM
Which brings us full circle back to the Tea party, new members with the goal of changing the path of Govt.
Whether you agree with their politics or not is of no consequence, they are there for one reason, to give power back to the people and get special interests out of Govt, shrink Govts overreaching agenda.
The Tea party is trying to change the very thing you rail against.

If the tea party and the 99%ers would get together we'd maybe have a chance. 


Curious, how do those in the tea party pick their representative?

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 19, 2012, 06:59:45 PM
If the tea party and the 99%ers would get together we'd maybe have a chance. 


Curious, how do those in the tea party pick their representative?

Tea Party picks fiscal conservatives, the OWS group are at the opposite end of the spectrum, they are foolishly following Communists.

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2012, 07:34:15 PM
Tea Party picks fiscal conservatives, the OWS group are at the opposite end of the spectrum, they are foolishly following Communists.

Both seem to be groups of people upset at corruption.

You didn't answer my question.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 19, 2012, 07:50:28 PM
Both seem to be groups of people upset at corruption.

You didn't answer my question.

Yes I did, "Tea Party picks fiscal conservatives".
It's not as much a social movement as it is a movement to reign in Govt on all levels.

Quote from: hfishjr81 on August 19, 2012, 07:50:28 PM
Both seem to be groups of people upset at corruption.

You didn't answer my question.

Actually, only the Tea Party are truly upset about corruption. The so-called Occupy Wall Street types are, for the most part, students, losers, hangers on, brought together by professional organizers whose sole purpose is to foment unrest and violence to give the Political Elite and excuse to expand their extra Constitutional powers even further. There purpose is to panic the Middle Class into accepting whatever restrictions Obama and his regime choose to impose on us.

The organizers of OWS, are working for the Obama Administration. They are, in fact knowingly supporting the corruption they claim to be opposing. The rest of the OWS type are just, as Lenin said, "Useful Idiots".

-Dr Watt

Quote from: Solar on August 19, 2012, 07:52:48 PM
Yes I did, "Tea Party picks fiscal conservatives".
It's not as much a social movement as it is a movement to reign in Govt on all levels.

How are they picking them?

Quote from: Dr_Watt on August 19, 2012, 09:22:09 PM
The organizers of OWS, are working for the Obama Administration. They are, in fact knowingly supporting the corruption they claim to be opposing. 

Link?


It seems that the OWS movement is people upset about corporate greed it being allowed by corrupt government.