Quote from: gandb77 on July 05, 2015, 04:07:17 AM
For those of you that have no corporate experience, don't you realize that most large U. S. corporations are not american.  They are international and bear no allegiance to the U. S. (American). Think about open borders (Mexico), think about free trade agreements, think about International corporations.   THINK ABOUT ONE WORLD.

This is the typical rhetoric of organized labor and social service wonks who, having it their way, would turn America into a financial concentration camp, you can check in, but you can't check out. Of course the Fortune 500 companies are American, probably the most American things we have.

I can tell you, most of the people on this forum are not interesting in talking about Alex Jones's "New World Order." I know because I have posted on that topic, and the people here simply are not interested in the topic.  But, you know what? That's fine by me. It's 90% parlor talk, that leads, really, nowhere.

Obama, though, has forced the hand with a completely different agenda, one that makes UN sovereignty matters pale by comparison.  Bobby Jindahl just called him the most destructive President in recent history, meaning destructive of American exceptionalism. Those are very strong words, and Gov. Jindahl is not the first to express that sentiment.

Quote from: gandb77 on July 05, 2015, 04:07:17 AM
For those of you that have no corporate experience, don't you realize that most large U. S. corporations are not american.  They are international and bear no allegiance to the U. S. (American). Think about open borders (Mexico), think about free trade agreements, think about International corporations.   THINK ABOUT ONE WORLD.

Out of nowhere, you make this extremely vague statement?
Sorry, but even after reading nearly every post on this forum, I still can't remember context of every line of thinking, let alone what was on the previous page the day before.
This may be important to you, so much so, you take a myopic obsessive stance and think everyone here should know WTF you're babbling about.

Without context, your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and you're not important enough for me to take the time to go back through this thread and figure it out.
However, based on what you said, it's safe to assume you hate all corporations, in the same manner a backwoods bigot hates anyone that ain't kin.

And you expect to be taken seriously?

Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2015, 06:28:57 AM
Without context, your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and you're not important enough for me to take the time to go back through this thread and figure it out.
However, based on what you said, it's safe to assume you hate all corporations, in the same manner a backwoods bigot hates anyone that ain't kin.

And you expect to be taken seriously?

Ask him who built his computer or phone.

Quote from: quiller on July 05, 2015, 07:39:31 AM


Ask him who built his computer or phone.

Exactly why I don't get his point of bigoted animosity towards all corps, purely based in ignorance.
Investors are free to help a company they think will make a quality product that in turn will bring them a return on their investment.

Like I said earlier, it's not the corporations that are the problem, it's our Congressional leadership choosing winners and losers, moving the goal post to the advantage of one industry over another.
Corporations do not write laws, they are held hostage by a blood sucking group of "so called" Representatives that have only their own interests at heart.

Purge both party's of these scum.

TEA!

Corporations own the government and write the bills.

Obamacare was written by the insurance lobby, as an example.

To not understand that politicians are selling access to influence legislation for the benefit of special interests is to not understand politics at all.

Quote from: TowardLiberty on July 05, 2015, 09:52:21 AM
Corporations own the government and write the bills.

Obamacare was written by the insurance lobby, as an example.

To not understand that politicians are selling access to influence legislation for the benefit of special interests is to not understand politics at all.

Actually it's the exact opposite, govt writes the rules, or rather crony capitalists in govt.
In many cases business buys influence, but in the end, it's Congress that picks the winners over the losers, all for personal gain.

Quote from: Solar on July 05, 2015, 09:56:15 AM
Actually it's the exact opposite, govt writes the rules, or rather crony capitalists in govt.
In many cases business buys influence, but in the end, it's Congress that picks the winners over the losers, all for personal gain.

Government writes the rules as they are given them by the true power- the money elite.

Sure they pick the winners and losers, as they pervert the laws, but they better pick the "right" winners" or they will no longer be effective politically.

Politicians know what they should do to further their careers.

Quote from: TowardLiberty on July 05, 2015, 10:05:25 AM
Government writes the rules as they are given them by the true power- the money elite.

Sure they pick the winners and losers, as they pervert the laws, but they better pick the "right" winners" or they will no longer be effective politically.

Politicians know what they should do to further their careers.

I think you and Solar are both correct.

The corporate/government relationship is a symbiotic relationship - and an incestuous one at that! 

Quote from: gandb77 on July 05, 2015, 04:57:30 AM
No!  I think you should be ready to expound your beliefs.  You people are so ready to criticize everything others say.  Now, how about letting us know the true path to enlightenment.   Perhaps a "One Worlder" accurately describes the basic thinking of this "Conservative????" group.
Try to explain your position without all the need to criticize everything.

So you are criticizing us for criticizing.

Brilliant.

Quote from: gandb77 on July 05, 2015, 05:28:54 AM
Still, no explanation of your position.  I'm beginning to think that you only have criticism.
It's a sad day when the "Right" has only that left.
Actually my thinking is much more "Right" than what you exhibit.

Who are you talking to? Learn the quote function.

Quote from: TowardLiberty on July 05, 2015, 09:52:21 AM
Corporations own the government and write the bills.

Obamacare was written by the insurance lobby, as an example.

To not understand that politicians are selling access to influence legislation for the benefit of special interests is to not understand politics at all.

Once again, Jonathan Gruber wrote obamacare, why do the liberals deny this, he is one of you, y'all should be proud this socialist wrote such a garbage bill.   

Quote from: s3779m on July 05, 2015, 04:41:01 PM
Once again, Jonathan Gruber wrote obamacare, why do the liberals deny this, he is one of you, y'all should be proud this socialist wrote such a garbage bill.

TowardLiberty  is a libertarian not a liberal.

Quote from: redbeard on July 05, 2015, 04:46:04 PM
TowardLiberty  is a libertarian not a liberal.

Thanks. Sometimes its hard to tell.  The trash talk about evil corporations threw me off. 

After reading all the back and forth about corporations, my point is made.   Nothing but major criticism.  Tell me why u.s. corporations are good citizens. As for the laws and regulations, it is the corporations that write them through high priced lobbyists.

Your hatred for the left blinds your vision of the republican "right?"

Quote from: gandb77 on July 06, 2015, 05:12:56 AM
After reading all the back and forth about corporations, my point is madefraudulent.   Nothing but major criticism.  Tell me why u.s. corporations are good citizens. As for the laws and regulations, it is the corporations that write them through high priced lobbyists.

Your hatred for the left blinds your vision of the republican "right?"

No, child, you have utterly failed to make your point. It is up to you to prove corporations are NOT good citizens, especially considering the number of people they employ and the stability to our economy from those same paychecks reaching retail and wholesale circulation.