I really think Mitt will do a good job, I know that if we don't take the senate, he will have a tough two first years...That being said, one of biggest beefs I have with our current dictator-in-chief is his penchant for executive orders.  Today, Romney listed the executive orders that HE would enact right away.  I am really not cool with that.  I know he wants to do things quickly, to provide as much relief and economic stimulation as quickly as possible, and maybe, it is nitpicky, but doing the right thing, in the wrong way, is still wrong.

I just head him say it about an hour ago, will post more info when I can find a link to it.

Quote from: mrclose on November 04, 2012, 01:37:18 PM
Harry Reid has said that he will NOT allow anything to pass in the senate if Romney wins.

Says he will basically 'neuter' Romney!

Obama has ruled using EO's so-o-o .. I say .. "FU Reid" Deal with OUR executive orders now!

I agree to a point. The LAST thing I want to hear from Romney or the Repubs in the House or Senate is "Bi-Partisanship" All Presidents have used Executive Orders to get things done.  If what he does is in line with the Constitution (Obama gave the finger tho the Constitution), I'd give him a break.  There's a lot that has to be FIXED.  That's what we're sending him there to do.  I doubt he and his wife will be using the presidency to live the good life like the Obamas did.

Do you have a link to those Executive Orders?

Edit:
I found the list here. This is what he says he'll do on Day One:

QuoteAn Order to Pave the Way to End Obamacare                                             
        federal oicials to return the maximum possible authority to the states
        innovate and design health care solutions that work best for them

An Order to Cut Red Tape                                       
    regulations that unduly burden the economy or job creation, and then
    annual increases in regulatory costs at zero dollars

An Order to Boost Domestic Energy Production                                            
    issuance of drilling permits to developers with established safety re
    seeking to use pre-approved techniques in pre-approved areas

An Order to Sanction China for Unfair Trade Practices                                                   
    manipulator in its biannual report and directs the Department of 
    Commerce to assess countervailing duties on Chinese imports if China
    does not quickly move to float its currency

An Order to Empower American Businesses and Workers                                       
    playing field in favor of organized labor, including the one encouragi
    the use of union labor on major government construction projects

Quote from: Yawn on November 04, 2012, 01:41:56 PM
I agree to a point. All Presidents have used Executive Orders to get things done.  If what he does is in line with the Constitution (Obama gave the finger tho the Constitution), I'd give him a break.  There's a lot that has to be FIXED.  That's what we're sending him there to do.  I doubt he and his wife will be using the presidency to live the good life like the Obamas did.

Do you have a link to those Executive Orders?

http://mittromney.com/issues/health-care

I could not find the other two, and I don't want to post what I think they are, I will wait and see if anyone posts about it so I can have a link.

I see your point, I really do, and I DON'T disagree with what he wants to do.  I just really think executive rule without the safeguard of the legislative branch is a slippery slope no matter which side of the isle you sit on.

Quote from: Yawn on November 04, 2012, 01:41:56 PM
I agree to a point. The LAST thing I want to hear from Romney or the Repubs in the House or Senate is "Bi-Partisanship" All Presidents have used Executive Orders to get things done.  If what he does is in line with the Constitution (Obama gave the finger tho the Constitution), I'd give him a break.  There's a lot that has to be FIXED.  That's what we're sending him there to do.  I doubt he and his wife will be using the presidency to live the good life like the Obamas did.

Do you have a link to those Executive Orders?

Edit:
I found the list here. This is what he says he'll do on Day One:

Those are EOs I can live with!

An Order to Pave the Way to End Obamacare                                             
        federal oicials to return the maximum possible authority to the states
        innovate and design health care solutions that work best for them

An Order to Cut Red Tape                                       
    regulations that unduly burden the economy or job creation, and then
    annual increases in regulatory costs at zero dollars

An Order to Boost Domestic Energy Production                                            
    issuance of drilling permits to developers with established safety re
    seeking to use pre-approved techniques in pre-approved areas

An Order to Sanction China for Unfair Trade Practices                                                   
    manipulator in its biannual report and directs the Department of
    Commerce to assess countervailing duties on Chinese imports if China
    does not quickly move to float its currency

An Order to Empower American Businesses and Workers                                       
    playing field in favor of organized labor, including the one encouragi
    the use of union labor on major government construction projects

Either EO's are constitutional or they're not. If they are, then BO's are just as valid as any presidents has been or just as valid as Romneys will be.

Seems it depends on who is doing the goring and who is getting gored.

Quote from: Shooterman on November 04, 2012, 03:51:07 PM
Either EO's are constitutional or they're not. If they are, then BO's are just as valid as any presidents has been or just as valid as Romneys will be.

Seems it depends on who is doing the goring and who is getting gored.

I won't go through everything and Obamacare wasn't passed as an EO, but it was "passed" illegally.  If Romney uses an Executive Order to neuter a "law" like that, I'm fine with that.

Making illegal aliens citizens by Executive order is UNCONSTITIONAL. Unfortunately Romney has said he'd leave that one alone.  If he revoked that, I be a lot happier with him. When the economy picks up, so will ILLEGAL immigration. What Obanma did is a magnet for ILLEGAL immigration

I do not like executive orders but if it takes one to undo damage to the country then good. Especially if the Democrats are acting like children.

I agree with the list of EO's and for the same reasons.  Americans need relief no matter how it gets done.  I've not been in favor for EO's as a given, but i realize that getting anything accomplished by Congress is akin to pulling hen's teeth. 

Maybe Mitt has a trick up his sleeve to getting the bi-partisan agreement that he's known for getting.  If the arguing or blocking continues, I see no other option for him than EO's.

At any rate, I think we can rely on Mitt to stay with the work he is elected to do, not go off on expensive trips with the family, or give elaborate dinners for the brotherhood, or go golfing everyday, or any other activities that consume his real work time for the voters. 

I didn't like when Obama used executive orders to fuel his temper tantrums...his way or no way....to bypass any suggestions or objections of Congress, but these types of situations have hurt the economy and America herself. 

But I think it is a different thing when a President has to use EO's to save the country and undo the crappy mess that Obama has made, and to give Reid and his cohorts a punch in the gut after making his statement. 

If that's the only way to undo the mess, I say go for it Romney!

Quote from: Solar on November 04, 2012, 02:33:07 PM

Those are EOs I can live with!

An Order to Pave the Way to End Obamacare                                             
        federal oicials to return the maximum possible authority to the states
        innovate and design health care solutions that work best for them

An Order to Cut Red Tape                                       
    regulations that unduly burden the economy or job creation, and then
    annual increases in regulatory costs at zero dollars

An Order to Boost Domestic Energy Production                                            
    issuance of drilling permits to developers with established safety re
    seeking to use pre-approved techniques in pre-approved areas

An Order to Sanction China for Unfair Trade Practices                                                   
    manipulator in its biannual report and directs the Department of
    Commerce to assess countervailing duties on Chinese imports if China
    does not quickly move to float its currency

An Order to Empower American Businesses and Workers                                       
    playing field in favor of organized labor, including the one encouragi
    the use of union labor on major government construction projects

We would be able to watch the unemployment rate drop in a real-time ticker....

Unemployment and gas prices I expect to see begin dropping even before Inauguration Day--possibly immediately after the election.  Obama and the Dems will cry, "See, My plan worked. You just didn't give it time!"

Quote from: Yawn on November 05, 2012, 10:16:15 AM
Unemployment and gas prices I expect to see begin dropping even before Inauguration Day--possibly immediately after the election.  Obama and the Dems will cry, "See, My plan worked. You just didn't give it time!"

Yawn, that's exactly what they'll say....

Quote from: Yawn on November 05, 2012, 10:16:15 AM
Unemployment and gas prices I expect to see begin dropping even before Inauguration Day--possibly immediately after the election.  Obama and the Dems will cry, "See, My plan worked. You just didn't give it time!"

Bingo!!!
I started a thread about that very phenomena two years ago so I could pull it up as proof they are full of shit.
I predicted we will see instant results the day Mitt wins, business will release billions into the economy, from new equipment to new hires.
Life is about to be sweet again!

They say the average family has lost over $4,000 in disposable income during his reign of terror.  Thery're also spending $2,000 more of their income in higher gas prices.

Imagine the boost to the economy if the price of gas alone dropped to $2 a gallon!  It'll cost me $20 to fill my tank instead of $40.  I fill my tank several times a month.  Obama ROBBED me and the rest of the poor of all that cash I could spend elsewhere (or even save).

Quote from: JustKari on November 04, 2012, 01:23:33 PM
I really think Mitt will do a good job, I know that if we don't take the senate, he will have a tough two first years...That being said, one of biggest beefs I have with our current dictator-in-chief is his penchant for executive orders.  Today, Romney listed the executive orders that HE would enact right away.  I am really not cool with that.  I know he wants to do things quickly, to provide as much relief and economic stimulation as quickly as possible, and maybe, it is nitpicky, but doing the right thing, in the wrong way, is still wrong.

I just head him say it about an hour ago, will post more info when I can find a link to it.

No...doing the right thing is the RIGHT THING. I like a president that will take action and not just talk talk talk. That's something we see too much of. Are you worried about what the other side thinks? Screw them....libs will hate on the man no matter what he does.