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Title: Should the us split up
Post by: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
Im not talking a bloody civil war but just our thought processes are 100 percent different . Country is split almost 50 50 and for the most  part we dont like each other. Lincoln said a divided country can not stand. One of mississippis representatives sent out a tweet about succession and Limbaugh was discussing it.
The roman empire fell, the british, why would we be any different?
Is it time for an amicable break up. Maybe two wouldnt work maybe four or a loose economic union. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: trumpconservative221 on December 10, 2020, 07:12:34 PM
No, you libs just need to find somewhere else. We arent handing you anything and you sure arent welcome here anymore.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Solar on December 10, 2020, 07:15:06 PM
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 10, 2020, 07:12:34 PM
No, you libs just need to find somewhere else. We arent handing you anything and you sure arent welcome here anymore.
You summed that up nicely! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 07:25:02 PM
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 10, 2020, 07:12:34 PM
No, you libs just need to find somewhere else. We arent handing you anything and you sure arent welcome here anymore.
Whos gonna support all your welfare states  then
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: trumpconservative221 on December 10, 2020, 07:40:59 PM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 07:25:02 PM
Whos gonna support all your welfare states  then

After we are rid of you libs, there will be no need for welfare.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Dayton3 on December 10, 2020, 07:56:23 PM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
Im not talking a bloody civil war but just our thought processes are 100 percent different . Country is split almost 50 50 and for the most  part we dont like each other. Lincoln said a divided country can not stand. One of mississippis representatives sent out a tweet about succession and Limbaugh was discussing it.
The roman empire fell, the british, why would we be any different?
Is it time for an amicable break up. Maybe two wouldnt work maybe four or a loose economic union. Thoughts?

Utterly impossible.   Though the U.S. is divided politically and philosophically it is NOT divided geographically which is kind of a requirement for any kind of  split.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Bronx on December 10, 2020, 08:03:21 PM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
Im not talking a bloody civil war but just our thought processes are 100 percent different . Country is split almost 50 50 and for the most  part we dont like each other. Lincoln said a divided country can not stand. One of mississippis representatives sent out a tweet about succession and Limbaugh was discussing it.
The roman empire fell, the british, why would we be any different?
Is it time for an amicable break up. Maybe two wouldnt work maybe four or a loose economic union. Thoughts?

You dumbass......you want the USA to break up because we don't get along but yet here you are at a Conservative site making a damn fool of yourself.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Owebo on December 11, 2020, 02:28:59 AM
Quote from: Dayton3 on December 10, 2020, 07:56:23 PM
Utterly impossible.   Though the U.S. is divided politically and philosophically it is NOT divided geographically which is kind of a requirement for any kind of  split.

Geographics doesn't matter....we will do what democrats did to the Indians....
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 03:42:21 AM
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 10, 2020, 07:40:59 PM
After we are rid of you libs, there will be no need for welfare.
The red states love their liberal govt cheese. Wouldnt know what to do without it.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Possum on December 11, 2020, 03:44:34 AM
Quote from: Bronx on December 10, 2020, 08:03:21 PM
You dumbass......you want the USA to break up because we don't get along but yet here you are at a Conservative site making a damn fool of yourself.......... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: yrunvs on December 11, 2020, 03:51:04 AM
I'd rather fight it out winner take all.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Billy's bayonet on December 11, 2020, 05:07:19 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
Im not talking a bloody civil war but just our thought processes are 100 percent different . Country is split almost 50 50 and for the most  part we dont like each other. Lincoln said a divided country can not stand. One of mississippis representatives sent out a tweet about succession and Limbaugh was discussing it.
The roman empire fell, the british, why would we be any different?
Is it time for an amicable break up. Maybe two wouldnt work maybe four or a loose economic union. Thoughts?

Amicable break up????? Are you Fkg serious?   A break up or dissolution of Our Union is a open invitation for all those enemy countries you marxists are allied with to descend upon us like wolves. Of course if you had your way you would invite Iran, China, Russia and whomever else to ravage the USA, Solidified Union or not.

I disagree with your 50/50 the majority of American's are center right, I think you radical leftists are about 30%....if that.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Pop Daddy on December 11, 2020, 08:44:46 AM
Libtards/leftist/marxis/commies/socialists/democraps should leave and move to Europe where socialism is in it's hey day.  Or Venezuela.  Leave the racist/bigoted country that you libs hate and keep trying to convert to socialism.  Once you're gone, the Conservatives can then set about returning to the original intent of our founding.  Once there we will eliminate every cabinet position and every department that is not mandated by the Constitution.

The "welfare" in red states will not exist, or anywhere in the 50 states unless it is solely the responsibility of a state that wants to pay for their citizens to sit on their ass and do nothing.  There will not be a dept. of education and that will be a great start.  It will not be allowed for one unelected old senile man to lockdown a country and ruin the economy because of a virus.

The 1st amendment will be protected by the 2nd amendment.  A baby will be afforded the right to life even while in the womb.  The rights of the people shall not be infringed.

One simple solution:  the US Constitution, those that don't like it can receive a one way ticket to Europe or Portland and stripped of citizenship.  We aren't going to divide the country.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
Quote from: Pop Daddy on December 11, 2020, 08:44:46 AM
Libtards/leftist/marxis/commies/socialists/democraps should leave and move to Europe where socialism is in it's hey day.  Or Venezuela.  Leave the racist/bigoted country that you libs hate and keep trying to convert to socialism.  Once you're gone, the Conservatives can then set about returning to the original intent of our founding.  Once there we will eliminate every cabinet position and every department that is not mandated by the Constitution.

The "welfare" in red states will not exist, or anywhere in the 50 states unless it is solely the responsibility of a state that wants to pay for their citizens to sit on their ass and do nothing.  There will not be a dept. of education and that will be a great start.  It will not be allowed for one unelected old senile man to lockdown a country and ruin the economy because of a virus.

The 1st amendment will be protected by the 2nd amendment.  A baby will be afforded the right to life even while in the womb.  The rights of the people shall not be infringed.

One simple solution:  the US Constitution, those that don't like it can receive a one way ticket to Europe or Portland and stripped of citizenship.  We aren't going to divide the country.
But you guys want to take away the rest of the country's vote right? Overturn an election because you guys cant handle it.  Everybody but you guys are treasonous scum. Then shut up and deal with the republic that you have and stop your crying.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Possum on December 11, 2020, 09:44:33 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
But you guys want to take away the rest of the country's vote right? Overturn an election because you guys cant handle it.  Everybody but you guys are treasonous scum. Then shut up and deal with the republic that you have and stop your crying.
You can not have a republic if voter fraud is allowed, you can not have a republic if the constitution is not followed. This is what the law suits are about.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:50:38 AM
Quote from: Possum on December 11, 2020, 09:44:33 AM
You can not have a republic if voter fraud is allowed, you can not have a republic if the constitution is not followed. This is what the law suits are about.
Sorry no voter fraud. Come back when you have some proof
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Possum on December 11, 2020, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:50:38 AM
Sorry no voter fraud. Come back when you have some proof
You have got to be kidding.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:58:41 AM
Quote from: Possum on December 11, 2020, 09:56:59 AM
You have got to be kidding.
You guys shojld travel out of your safe space. See what the real world believes.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Possum on December 11, 2020, 10:14:03 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:58:41 AM
You guys shojld travel out of your safe space. See what the real world believes.
By "real world" you must be talking msm. maybe it's you who need to get out of the basement.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Owebo on December 11, 2020, 10:18:34 AM
Quote from: Possum on December 11, 2020, 10:14:03 AM
By "real world" you must be talking msm. maybe it's you who need to get out of the basement.

Where will you run and hide?
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Sick Of Silence on December 11, 2020, 11:02:56 AM
Didn't you lefties want to to move after Trump got in office?

:rolleyes:
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Drifter on December 11, 2020, 11:09:34 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
But you guys want to take away the rest of the country's vote right? Overturn an election because you guys cant handle it.  Everybody but you guys are treasonous scum. Then shut up and deal with the republic that you have and stop your crying.

First off the left wanted to do what you are accusing us of before trump got in, so excuse us for not trusting the election was done fair, after 4+ years of hearing trump stole an election. Maybe we would believe it if they did not stop counting that night, and they had not shown the last 4+ years they will do anything to get trump out of office even lie, cheat, etc. By they way I do believe the United States will fall someday like Rome, but that will be in the last days of the earth.  Frankly I believe the Democrats will be the cause of it, so if this is the start of it's fall congratulations for helping the dems destroy us.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 11:35:44 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
Im not talking a bloody civil war but just our thought processes are 100 percent different . Country is split almost 50 50 and for the most  part we dont like each other. Lincoln said a divided country can not stand. One of mississippis representatives sent out a tweet about succession and Limbaugh was discussing it.
The roman empire fell, the british, why would we be any different?
Is it time for an amicable break up. Maybe two wouldnt work maybe four or a loose economic union. Thoughts?

Its actually more like 80 20 towards the right. The blue states can go ahead and leave, then most of their red counties will just leave them and join red states. Blue states use far more than they produce, they are more dependent on red states than the other way around.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 11:36:46 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 07:25:02 PM
Whos gonna support all your welfare states  then

Exactly, without all the red areas there is no one to support the blue welfare states, so they will end up in bankruptcy due to left policies. Then maybe they will learn their lessons,  :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 11:38:47 AM
Quote from: Owebo on December 11, 2020, 02:28:59 AM
Geographics doesn't matter....we will do what democrats did to the Indians....

This. Put the few dems left on reservations as they are a dying breed. In order to get off they will have to say the pledge of allegiance, so none will ever be able to leave.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 11:40:59 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 03:42:21 AM
The red states love their liberal govt cheese. Wouldnt know what to do without it.

Better it goes to hard working farmers who deserve it than lazy thugs and weirdos in the blue cities. Left is just mad cuz they got beat at their own game.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 11:42:59 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
But you guys want to take away the rest of the country's vote right? Overturn an election because you guys cant handle it.  Everybody but you guys are treasonous scum. Then shut up and deal with the republic that you have and stop your crying.

The republic that we have just voted for trump in a landslide, that much is accepted public fact at this point. The left is crying that the legal system is working and they got caught cheating so now they are mad that the military is going to stop their schemes.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 11:44:19 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:50:38 AM
Sorry no voter fraud. Come back when you have some proof

We have mountains of proof, (thats why the majority accept it was rigged). It is on you when you willfully ignore it.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 11:45:25 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:58:41 AM
You guys shojld travel out of your safe space. See what the real world believes.

But you are the one living in the medias bubble. You still listen to the media dont you? So you prove yourself that it is you living in the bubble, and that is why the left is losing so badly right now. Keep trying
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: RV on December 11, 2020, 01:10:15 PM
Ain't it interesting that libs want to split up America rather than moving to some Communist country? I'm guessing that the libs KNOW how much Communism/Socialism ravages the country and they want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Bronx on December 11, 2020, 01:24:50 PM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:50:38 AM
Sorry no voter fraud. Come back when you have some proof

Here scumbag

More Corrupt Democrats Arrested, Face 134 Felony Charges Including Election Fraud, MaiI-In-Ballot Fraud & More

https://americasfreedomfighters.com/more-corrupt-democrats-arrested-face-134-felony-charges-including-election-fraud-maii-in-ballot-fraud-more-3/
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Pop Daddy on December 11, 2020, 04:31:53 PM
Quote from: RV on December 11, 2020, 01:10:15 PM
Ain't it interesting that libs want to split up America rather than moving to some Communist country? I'm guessing that the libs KNOW how much Communism/Socialism ravages the country and they want everyone else to be as miserable as they are.

The liberal mind is a place where thought and logic go to die.  A living wage.  Free medical.  Free college.  Free housing.  Black Lives Matter .org.  Antifa.  All things stupid, tried and failed miserably everywhere it has been tried.  Look at Europe.  Come on in they so proudly told all those middle eastern assholes that have a goat girlfriend on the side.  Now there are "no go" zones where the infidels are not welcome.   The EU is crashing and those marxist don't know whether to shit or go blind.

Maybe the schools should teach who Soros is and what is his Open Society is all about.  In typical lib/left/marxist/commie/democraps standard way of doing things, first they build a nest and then they shit in it and expect someone else to clean it up.

Well not this time or in this country.  You libs need to leave, there are plenty of shitholes around the world that promise all the free stuff you idiots have been burning down cities to get, so have at it.  Start with Venezuela or the EU, free stuff and no problems at all.  Bring you own food to last a few months, the marxist in those shithole countries have eaten all the zoo animals, so you're on your own.  Bring your own Quran as well and put a diaper on your head if you're going to Europe. 
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:40:56 PM
Quote from: Bronx on December 11, 2020, 01:24:50 PM
Here scumbag

More Corrupt Democrats Arrested, Face 134 Felony Charges Including Election Fraud, MaiI-In-Ballot Fraud & More

https://americasfreedomfighters.com/more-corrupt-democrats-arrested-face-134-felony-charges-including-election-fraud-maii-in-ballot-fraud-more-3/

That's from a 2018 Democratic Primary, anything more recent?
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Solar on December 11, 2020, 04:47:42 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:40:56 PM
That's from a 2018 Democratic Primary, anything more recent?
The point is, you libs claim there wasn't any voter fraud, when clearly there was , and Is!
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:56:45 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 11, 2020, 04:47:42 PM
The point is, you libs claim there wasn't any voter fraud, when clearly there was , and Is!

This is from two years ago. How about you show some concrete fraud with THIS election?
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Solar on December 11, 2020, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:56:45 PM
This is from two years ago. How about you show some concrete fraud with THIS election?
It's out there, you've seen it and don't lie! We're not going to play this game with you libs anymore!
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 05:02:54 PM
Perhaps when Biden gets sworn in come January, conservatives might want to move somewhere a little more in line with their beliefs? Might I suggest somewhere in the Middle East? They love guns and religion over there, they even like driving around in beat-up pickup trucks with little flags on them like you guys do.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Bronx on December 11, 2020, 05:04:21 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:40:56 PM
That's from a 2018 Democratic Primary, anything more recent?

Now you wanna move the goal post..........you guys are so funny. Next time tell the scumbag what dates he wants...........:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 05:05:44 PM
Quote from: Solar on December 11, 2020, 05:00:00 PM
It's out there, you've seen it and don't lie! We're not going to play this game with you libs anymore!

Only thing I've seen is Trump trying to milk every last dollar out of you poor saps. Come January, once he is removed from office, he'll announce he's running again in 2024, the rallies will continue but now you guys will have to pay for tickets.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 05:53:23 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 04:40:56 PM
That's from a 2018 Democratic Primary, anything more recent?

https://hereistheevidence.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e35f4pUIYOg
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 11, 2020, 05:55:53 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 05:02:54 PM
Perhaps when Biden gets sworn in come January, conservatives might want to move somewhere a little more in line with their beliefs? Might I suggest somewhere in the Middle East? They love guns and religion over there, they even like driving around in beat-up pickup trucks with little flags on them like you guys do.

LOL you understand we are still in charge right? How is biden just gonna walk into the WH when trump can just invoke the military since he put loyalists in charge of it? The blue states will be forced to secede and make biden their president.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: SouthFloridaMan on December 11, 2020, 05:59:12 PM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
Im not talking a bloody civil war but just our thought processes are 100 percent different . Country is split almost 50 50 and for the most  part we dont like each other. Lincoln said a divided country can not stand. One of mississippis representatives sent out a tweet about succession and Limbaugh was discussing it.
The roman empire fell, the british, why would we be any different?
Is it time for an amicable break up. Maybe two wouldnt work maybe four or a loose economic union. Thoughts?

I think it's a bad idea. We need some major changes to our government structure for accountability purposes but we can continue to be great if we all get on board with that and trust the system going forward.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Owebo on December 11, 2020, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 05:02:54 PM
Perhaps when Biden gets sworn in come January, conservatives might want to move somewhere a little more in line with their beliefs? Might I suggest somewhere in the Middle East? They love guns and religion over there, they even like driving around in beat-up pickup trucks with little flags on them like you guys do.

Perhaps we will move you with your friends there.....
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Sick Of Silence on December 11, 2020, 09:01:10 PM
Quote from: Bronx on December 11, 2020, 01:24:50 PM
Here scumbag

More Corrupt Democrats Arrested, Face 134 Felony Charges Including Election Fraud, MaiI-In-Ballot Fraud & More

https://americasfreedomfighters.com/more-corrupt-democrats-arrested-face-134-felony-charges-including-election-fraud-maii-in-ballot-fraud-more-3/

To the lefties on this forum (especially unfriendlyneighborhoodlefty) will you condemn election fraud?
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: yrunvs on December 12, 2020, 05:20:53 AM
I'm all for succession. A country of liberals only would implode in a relatively short period of time and then we could annex. It would be a country run by petulant spoiled brats hell bent on self destruction.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: supsalemgr on December 12, 2020, 05:49:53 AM
Quote from: SouthFloridaMan on December 11, 2020, 05:59:12 PM
I think it's a bad idea. We need some major changes to our government structure for accountability purposes but we can continue to be great if we all get on board with that and trust the system going forward.

Welcome to the board.

Your point about structural accountability is sound. The problem is both parties are complicit in keeping the system as is. The GOP does not have the courage or desire to pursue true accountability.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: MichaelJ on December 12, 2020, 06:35:56 AM
Just because we are Conservatives here, doesn't mean we are Republicans, who have acquiesced to what the Liberals have done for far too long and paid a huge price for it. I do not want to see this once great country break up because I fought and bled for it.

Some here will find this next part offensive, and many will disagree, but I think this is God's way of showing us we have ignored him far too long and are moving farther away from Him everyday and he now has taken his protective hands away from us and we WILL fall soon. Democrats are Godless souls who believe that killing 60 million babies (more than the total who died in WWII) and taken him out of our institutions in the desire for what they call equal justice. Some may say this is what the Muslim countries believe but they are very wrong.   

As a Christian (used to be anyway) country founded on principles taught by Christ, we believe you don't stone someone, cut off there hands or heads, throw homosexuals off of buildings, and kill innocent civilians just because their "god" tells them to in their Bible (the Quran.)This country was founded by men who understood we had a covenant with God to build this great nation and strive to get closer to Him, at which we are now failing spectacularly. Scoff all you want, but let's check back here in 5 years and see where we are as a nation
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: tiny1 on December 12, 2020, 06:54:19 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
But you guys want to take away the rest of the country's vote right? Overturn an election because you guys cant handle it.  Everybody but you guys are treasonous scum. Then shut up and deal with the republic that you have and stop your crying.
Bovine Detritus.  You guys STOLE that election with Treasonous, Seditious, Criminal behavior.   You cheated.  Cheaters are scum.  When you cheat, you essentially admit that you cannot compete on that level, and must resort to dishonesty, in order to "save face" in the light of your cowardly attempts.  Cheaters are only a bit above Adulterers, and Thieves.  In fact, Adulterers are Cheaters and so are Thieves.
I am ashamed to live in the same country as You.  You give Americans a Bad Name, and this country would be better off, if you lived in Europe.
Nope, wanna get your arse handed to you?  C'mon over to Casa de Tiny.  The Liberals' Biggest Nightmare.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on December 12, 2020, 07:22:55 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 10, 2020, 06:56:44 PM
The roman empire fell, the british, why would we be any different?

Yes, transformation is possible.

In the process of their existence, empires  go through various stages - foundation, formation, expansion, strengthening, weakening and decay.

The Roman Empire, one of the largest in terms of area and population, existed for almost one and a half thousand years before the "liberals" of those years destroyed it.

And the empire was replaced by the "Dark Ages" of Europe.

Does this mean that the United States should also be transformed into an Empire, just as the Roman Republic transformed into an Roman Empire?

Quite possible.

But this also means that someone will become an imperialist, someone will become an imperial guard, a class of noble nobles will appear, they will be served by servants, slaves will be attached to estates, factories and mines.

Imagine for a minute, Duke Shmak Shumer! Baroness Hillary Clinton! Princess Kamala Harris! His Highness Hunter Biden! And His Majesty the Emperor of All America is a brainless geek, a reproach to God on Earth, a senile and pathological liar Jo Biden ... :cursing:
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on December 12, 2020, 07:35:44 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:19:35 AM
But you guys want to take away the rest of the country's vote right? Overturn an election because you guys cant handle it.  Everybody but you guys are treasonous scum. Then shut up and deal with the republic that you have and stop your crying.

To cheat at elections does not mean at all to be able to lead the country.

Look at the Democratic States!

They will never pay off the debts they have. The capitals and big cities in these states have turned into stinking cesspools, work has gone from there and will never return, and after sunset there, it is better not to go outside.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on December 12, 2020, 07:40:30 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:50:38 AM
Sorry no voter fraud. Come back when you have some proof

Yes you are right. This is not fraud. This is an open counter-revolution.

Democrats brazenly and openly trampled on the country's Constitution.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on December 12, 2020, 07:51:05 AM
Quote from: Friendlyneiborhoodlib on December 11, 2020, 09:58:41 AM
You guys shojld travel out of your safe space. See what the real world believes.

It is precisely the liberals who think that they will sit out in their rich suburbs with fences and guards.

It is to you, first of all, that a crowd of freeloaders who want to destroy and kill will come. It is with your heads that black children will play basketball.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: european101 on December 12, 2020, 07:55:53 AM
No one is going to tell me, that stopping counting for 8 hours on election night is normal for democratic country. You don't really need any proof for that, becouse this is suspicious per se. If Biden still somehow manage to come to the White house, he'll have hard time explaining all the world he was elected on democratic elections.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: european101 on December 12, 2020, 08:03:28 AM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 12, 2020, 07:22:55 AM
Yes, transformation is possible.

In the process of their existence, empires  go through various stages - foundation, formation, expansion, strengthening, weakening and decay.

The Roman Empire, one of the largest in terms of area and population, existed for almost one and a half thousand years before the "liberals" of those years destroyed it.

And the empire was replaced by the "Dark Ages" of Europe.

Does this mean that the United States should also be transformed into an Empire, just as the Roman Republic transformed into an Roman Empire?

Quite possible.

But this also means that someone will become an imperialist, someone will become an imperial guard, a class of noble nobles will appear, they will be served by servants, slaves will be attached to estates, factories and mines.

Imagine for a minute, Duke Shmak Shumer! Baroness Hillary Clinton! Princess Kamala Harris! His Highness Hunter Biden! And His Majesty the Emperor of All America is a brainless geek, a reproach to God on Earth, a senile and pathological liar Jo Biden ... :cursing:


Hey how did you manage to escape from USSR?
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on December 12, 2020, 08:18:52 AM
Quote from: european101 on December 12, 2020, 08:03:28 AM

Hey how did you manage to escape from USSR?

This is our family business. My father was able to escape from the Nazis, and I, from the communists.

But it seems that the communists have caught up with me now! :scared:
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: european101 on December 12, 2020, 08:26:56 AM
Oh ok. I've seen some documentary films from GDR, there was no way you could escape from there. At least not alive.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Pop Daddy on December 12, 2020, 08:50:31 AM
Quote from: Yuriy the Loader on December 12, 2020, 07:51:05 AM
It is precisely the liberals who think that they will sit out in their rich suburbs with fences and guards.

It is to you, first of all, that a crowd of freeloaders who want to destroy and kill will come. It is with your heads that black children will play basketball.

This is exactly right.  Libs will never think about this happening to them.  They will come after their own first.  BLM has already said Joke owes them.  Detroit has said Joke owes them.  The whole lib/socialist/marxist/dem crowd are putting in their demands, to an old demented pedophile that at this point is most likely sorry he ever ran.  His crime family pushed him, now he's stuck if they pull off the heist.

Libs/dems are Godless souls with no worth except as useful idiots for a ruling class that seems to not have made enough money.  The lefts Gods are dumb ass ball handlers and movie stars.  Human life has no value to them.  Every where in this great country where the left has been in charge is now or quickly becoming a shithole.  Tent cities, drugs, crime.  As the cities and the states that support these liberal assholes begin to fail they will look to Joke to bail them out.

Portland is a great example.  They think their man got elected, yet the chaos continues and they now have a CHOP/CHAZ area building there.  Their feeble leftie mayor said no zones like that would be allowed, yet there it is and he's just a hapless fool that can't do anything about it.

We don't need to divide the country.  The left will destroy where they live, they will eat their own and in the end they will have nothing.  Their utopia will be short lived.  Anything of value will be destroyed.  The rich will take their money and move.  The only ones left in the shitholes will be the poor working man that couldn't afford to leave and the tent cities, drug addicts and those that prey upon the weak.

You will notice none of these scumbags come to red counties to try their bullcrap, we don't play that game.  Coming to my home and thinking they are going to take my stuff will be the last seconds these scumbags will spend above dirt.

You leftist/socialist/marxist/democraps can have a good laugh if you want, but I notice you don't stray from the safety of your yards. 
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: tiny1 on December 12, 2020, 08:56:27 AM
Quote from: ButteryMales on December 11, 2020, 05:02:54 PM
Perhaps when Biden gets sworn in come January, conservatives might want to move somewhere a little more in line with their beliefs? Might I suggest somewhere in the Middle East? They love guns and religion over there, they even like driving around in beat-up pickup trucks with little flags on them like you guys do.
How about I just kick your ass and take your house.  Oh, wait.  You are probably in Mommy's Basement.  Only stupid Children cannot see the woods, for the trees.
No, Corruptocrat, I will not surrender my home to you Treasonists.  I will fight to the last cartridge and until my last breath.  If Biden takes office, you realize they'll invoke the 25th and remove him, so the Knob Job Queen of the West Coast can brag that, as the first woman President, she screwed up America so bad, we cannot fix it.  That is, if she can stay out of jail.
Of course, he hasn't been sworn in yet, and with the way they are hounding Hunter Bidet, it is just a matter of time before he gets impeached, unless Botox Nancy invokes the 25th.  Doesn't matter.  Your kids and grandkids will be speaking Chinese by then.
So, if Hobo Joe and the Ho take office, people like you will be targeted.  I plan to smack around every liberal I can.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: DrJellyfingers on December 12, 2020, 09:21:48 AM
Quote from: european101 on December 12, 2020, 07:55:53 AM
No one is going to tell me, that stopping counting for 8 hours on election night is normal for democratic country. You don't really need any proof for that, becouse this is suspicious per se. If Biden still somehow manage to come to the White house, he'll have hard time explaining all the world he was elected on democratic elections.

So you also have an issue with Trump saying Stop the count while he was ahead in Pennsylvania before all votes were counted?
The 8 hour thing has been debunked numerous times but of course you don't want to take the 30 seconds to fact check it
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: walkstall on December 12, 2020, 09:33:18 AM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on December 12, 2020, 09:21:48 AM
So you also have an issue with Trump saying Stop the count while he was ahead in Pennsylvania before all votes were counted?
The 8 hour thing has been debunked numerous times but of course you don't want to take the 30 seconds to fact check it

I trust fact check as much as I trust Hillary, Joe or pelosi!
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: european101 on December 12, 2020, 10:19:38 AM
Actually there aren't any facts, reasons etc. that could justify the 8 hour stop of electing process, as  there is no excuse for counting votes for more than 4, 5 or even more days. That is suspicious and you don't do that kind of things on democratic elections. Especially not, if these two things are happening at the very same elections.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: RV on December 12, 2020, 10:58:19 AM
Quote from: european101 on December 12, 2020, 10:19:38 AM
Actually there aren't any facts, reasons etc. that could justify the 8 hour stop of electing process, as  there is no excuse for counting votes for more than 4, 5 or even more days. That is suspicious and you don't do that kind of things on democratic elections. Especially not, if these two things are happening at the very same elections.

What bothers me is that if a Republican or President Trump did ANYTHING even close to this, the Democrats and their media lap dogs would scream to high heavens. As it is, crickets.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: TEFLing on December 12, 2020, 12:21:27 PM
Quote from: yrunvs on December 12, 2020, 05:20:53 AMA country of liberals only would implode in a relatively short period of time and then we could annex.
Like Trudeau in Canada, the Left would invite foreign military intervention assistance as "peace keepers" ?
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: tiny1 on December 12, 2020, 12:42:57 PM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on December 12, 2020, 09:21:48 AM
So you also have an issue with Trump saying Stop the count while he was ahead in Pennsylvania before all votes were counted?
The 8 hour thing has been debunked numerous times but of course you don't want to take the 30 seconds to fact check it
That is about as Stupid as a football bat.  Trump said to stop the count, 2 days after it was supposed to stop.  We are talking about on Election Night, when 7 states all stopped counting at the same time.  Sent all the poll watchers home, or Corralled them over 40 feet away from the counters.  Illegal.  Plain and simple, illegal.
And, Dishonest Liar, No, they didn't stop counting.  They lied to the poll watchers that they were going to stop counting, and then when rid of them, pulled out illegal ballots and continued counting, unsupervised, which is also illegal.
How the hell do you have 353 counties in 29 states with over 100% turnout? Election Fraud, that is how.  How can you people look in the mirror in the morning, KNOWING that you support Anti American Cheaters?  I consider you to be an enemy of America.  ALL of you liberal Pinheads.  You are destroying the fabric of my home, attacking the very people I love dearly.  Nice way to get on the Fighting Side of Me.  Trust me, you guys succeed in Stealing this election from the American People, and I'll find a way to make as many of you pay, as I can find.  I am so old, life in prison doesn't deter me much.  Death, is just around the corner.
So, trust me when I say, I do not care about you, or anyone who thinks like you.  Make this a war, and I guarantee, y'all will be sorry.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: RV on December 12, 2020, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: tiny1 on December 12, 2020, 12:42:57 PM
That is about as Stupid as a football bat.  Trump said to stop the count, 2 days after it was supposed to stop.  We are talking about on Election Night, when 7 states all stopped counting at the same time.  Sent all the poll watchers home, or Corralled them over 40 feet away from the counters.  Illegal.  Plain and simple, illegal.
And, Dishonest Liar, No, they didn't stop counting.  They lied to the poll watchers that they were going to stop counting, and then when rid of them, pulled out illegal ballots and continued counting, unsupervised, which is also illegal.
How the hell do you have 353 counties in 29 states with over 100% turnout? Election Fraud, that is how.  How can you people look in the mirror in the morning, KNOWING that you support Anti American Cheaters?  I consider you to be an enemy of America.  ALL of you liberal Pinheads.  You are destroying the fabric of my home, attacking the very people I love dearly.  Nice way to get on the Fighting Side of Me.  Trust me, you guys succeed in Stealing this election from the American People, and I'll find a way to make as many of you pay, as I can find.  I am so old, life in prison doesn't deter me much.  Death, is just around the corner.
So, trust me when I say, I do not care about you, or anyone who thinks like you.  Make this a war, and I guarantee, y'all will be sorry.

Once again we see the liberal bias and liberal controlled media. If President Trump says to "stop the counting", regardless of when he says it, the Democrats will rant about it. Liberal Democrats can says to "stop the counting", the Democrats and the media will ignore or excuse it.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: DrJellyfingers on December 12, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
Quote from: RV on December 12, 2020, 02:00:11 PM
Once again we see the liberal bias and liberal controlled media. If President Trump says to "stop the counting", regardless of when he says it, the Democrats will rant about it. Liberal Democrats can says to "stop the counting", the Democrats and the media will ignore or excuse it.

Right. Problem is he wanted to stop the count on Nov 5 while he was ahead , knowing he would lose after all the votes were counted. Tiny 1 is so worried about anti American but is ok with not everyone's vote being counted. Can't get more anti American than that old
Man
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Yuriy the Loader on December 12, 2020, 03:31:58 PM
Quote from: european101 on December 12, 2020, 08:26:56 AM
Oh ok. I've seen some documentary films from GDR, there was no way you could escape from there. At least not alive.

The GDR was the "festive wind" of socialism.

The rest of the countries of the "socialist camp" were much poorer and it was worse to live there.

But I know young (relatively) Germans, who now yearn for the GDR.

The devil knows what is going on in people's brains.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: DrJellyfingers on December 12, 2020, 03:55:35 PM
Quote from: tiny1 on December 12, 2020, 12:42:57 PM
That is about as Stupid as a football bat.  Trump said to stop the count, 2 days after it was supposed to stop.  We are talking about on Election Night, when 7 states all stopped counting at the same time.  Sent all the poll watchers home, or Corralled them over 40 feet away from the counters.  Illegal.  Plain and simple, illegal.
And, Dishonest Liar, No, they didn't stop counting.  They lied to the poll watchers that they were going to stop counting, and then when rid of them, pulled out illegal ballots and continued counting, unsupervised, which is also illegal.
How the hell do you have 353 counties in 29 states with over 100% turnout? Election Fraud, that is how.  How can you people look in the mirror in the morning, KNOWING that you support Anti American Cheaters?  I consider you to be an enemy of America.  ALL of you liberal Pinheads.  You are destroying the fabric of my home, attacking the very people I love dearly.  Nice way to get on the Fighting Side of Me.  Trust me, you guys succeed in Stealing this election from the American People, and I'll find a way to make as many of you pay, as I can find.  I am so old, life in prison doesn't deter me much.  Death, is just around the corner.
So, trust me when I say, I do not care about you, or anyone who thinks like you.  Make this a war, and I guarantee, y'all will be sorry.

Here's something to think about Genius. The president of the US could get any lawyer he wanted for a huge case like Election fraud. Instead he got three incompetent nitwits who
couldn't even spell correctly. Why? Why do you think that is?
While we're at it why are you surprised the person who was ahead in every singe poll for months and months won the election? There is no suprise here. Even every single swing state poll had Biden winning every single day. Take your ball and go home. It's over and you are embarrassing yourself
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 12, 2020, 05:42:57 PM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on December 12, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
Right. Problem is he wanted to stop the count on Nov 5 while he was ahead , knowing he would lose after all the votes were counted. Tiny 1 is so worried about anti American but is ok with not everyone's vote being counted. Can't get more anti American than that old
Man

Actually he won with the legal votes, then the left counted votes coming in after nov 3rd. After those illegal votes are removed trump won in a landslide.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: T Hunt on December 12, 2020, 05:46:59 PM
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on December 12, 2020, 03:55:35 PM
Here's something to think about Genius. The president of the US could get any lawyer he wanted for a huge case like Election fraud.
You mean like the left literally threatening lawyers kids to keep them from helping trump?

Quote
Instead he got three incompetent nitwits who couldn't even spell correctly. Why? Why do you think that is?
But the idea they made noob clerical errors is just more fake news. They are working overtime.
Trump got the best of the best. Look at how sydney exposed the deepstate targeting of flynn. Look how rudy took down the mob.


QuoteWhile we're at it why are you surprised the person who was ahead in every singe poll for months and months won the election? There is no suprise here. Even every single swing state poll had Biden winning every single day. Take your ball and go home.
You mean the polls which where wildly wrong in both 2016 2018 and 2020? Those polls?

Quote
It's over and you are embarrassing yourself
Yes trump won and there is nothing you can do to remove him.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: european101 on December 12, 2020, 06:58:42 PM
Quote from: RV on December 12, 2020, 10:58:19 AM
What bothers me is that if a Republican or President Trump did ANYTHING even close to this, the Democrats and their media lap dogs would scream to high heavens. As it is, crickets.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: TEFLing on December 12, 2020, 08:07:31 PM
Quote from: tiny1 on December 12, 2020, 12:42:57 PM
That is about as Stupid as a football bat.  Trump said to stop the count, 2 days after it was supposed to stop.  We are talking about on Election Night, when 7 states all stopped counting at the same time.  Sent all the poll watchers home, or Corralled them over 40 feet away from the counters.  Illegal.  Plain and simple, illegal.
And, Dishonest Liar, No, they didn't stop counting.  They lied to the poll watchers that they were going to stop counting, and then when rid of them, pulled out illegal ballots and continued counting, unsupervised, which is also illegal.
How the hell do you have 353 counties in 29 states with over 100% turnout? Election Fraud, that is how.  How can you people look in the mirror in the morning, KNOWING that you support Anti American Cheaters?  I consider you to be an enemy of America.  ALL of you liberal Pinheads.  You are destroying the fabric of my home, attacking the very people I love dearly.  Nice way to get on the Fighting Side of Me.  Trust me, you guys succeed in Stealing this election from the American People, and I'll find a way to make as many of you pay, as I can find.  I am so old, life in prison doesn't deter me much.  Death, is just around the corner.
So, trust me when I say, I do not care about you, or anyone who thinks like you.  Make this a war, and I guarantee, y'all will be sorry.
can't cheat in person "acclamation" voting

if Americans can take off (virtually) the very next week for Thanksgiving, why not take off one extra day for national elections?

No show, no vote
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: yrunvs on December 13, 2020, 05:31:09 AM
Take a look at a map of the USA.
Succession with at least Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, North and South Dakota. Then build a physical and virtual wall north and south.

We have come to an impasse politically, socially, ideologically and morally that's not me talking that's reality. There is no way to go back and fix this, to right the wrongs. When elections are no longer fair when the justice dept works only for one side and when the courts do not uphold the constitution what recourse is there? How much more should free people take before they revolt?
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Pop Daddy on December 13, 2020, 09:00:41 AM
Quote from: yrunvs on December 13, 2020, 05:31:09 AM
Take a look at a map of the USA.
Succession with at least Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, North and South Dakota. Then build a physical and virtual wall north and south.

We have come to an impasse politically, socially, ideologically and morally that's not me talking that's reality. There is no way to go back and fix this, to right the wrongs. When elections are no longer fair when the justice dept works only for one side and when the courts do not uphold the constitution what recourse is there? How much more should free people take before they revolt?

I like  your thinking.  Need to redraw yer map a little.  Give the coasts, east and west, to the marxists.  Give them a certain amount of land from the coast inland, maybe 15 miles or so.  Then you put in the north/south borders.  Eliminate interstate commerce from the new coastal communities.  Most industry is located in the new Conservative Zone.  The lefties on both coasts can fend for themselves, in 2 weeks they will be out of food and what little industry they had will be broken.

Next, give notice that the new Conservative Zone is going to be enforcing the US Constitution as written.  Those that think the Constitution is a "living document" will have two weeks to pack up their stuff and leave.  Able bodied men will be expected to work, a free lunch is not in the Constitution.  Churches and soup lines may be able to feed those that choose not to work.

We are at an impasse.  Those that voted to re-elected President Trump in record numbers will not go quietly into the night, sorry.  We have been treated by the ruling class as stupid uninformed Neanderthals for the last time.  A mail in ballot that is not folded is not a mailed in ballot and should not have been counted, and this was done by the thousands.

In the new Conservative Zone, or the United Conservative States of America, will go back to a part time congress with term limits.  Any unelected man in a black robe will rule on the law and will not rewrite any law of legislate from the bench, or they will be removed.  There will never be a sanctuary city in any Conservative State.  The borders will be protected and those crossing illegally will be shot.  Asylum claims will be handled at the embassy level, not at the border.

I, for one, do not see any reason to negotiate.  This is a Constitutional Republic, end of discussion.  The coastal elite marxist can govern their socialist/marxist/communist zone any way they want.  A free lunch for everyone, OK with me, but we're not picking up the tab any longer.
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: TEFLing on December 13, 2020, 06:08:30 PM
Retreating already?  You think you understand the lay of the land?

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Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: TEFLing on December 13, 2020, 11:47:54 PM
2 for 2 (?)

divided is conquered

(like usual)

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Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: TEFLing on December 14, 2020, 12:14:14 AM
Country bumpkins are already on the same page

more gangs with more guns, more votes claimed & counted:

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https://tennesseestar.com/2020/06/26/democrats-run-americas-top-20-crime-ridden-cities/ (https://tennesseestar.com/2020/06/26/democrats-run-americas-top-20-crime-ridden-cities/)
Title: Re: Should the us split up
Post by: Solar on December 14, 2020, 05:52:18 AM
Quote from: TEFLing on December 13, 2020, 06:08:30 PM
Retreating already?  You think you understand the lay of the land?

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Use the quote function, other wise a lot of your posts have zero context.
As do the following two, I have no idea what your point was.