Been listening to it on the radio, and it would appear to be terrorists, considering where it was located, a gun free zone social services center.

Fatalities feared, 3 hunted after shooting at San Bernardino, Calif., center for disabled

DEVELOPING: Multiple people were reportedly killed Wednesday at a San Bernardino, Calif., social services facility where employees were hosting a Christmas party, and police were hunting three suspects who may have escaped in an SUV.

As many as 30 hostages were seen coming out of the building where the event occurred minutes after the first call went in to police around 11 a.m. local time. Witnesses said three men in masks and body armor stormed the crowded building and opened fire, with one shooting people in a conference room where a Christmas party was taking place, according to the Los Angeles Times. Local Fox affiliate KTTV initially reported that at least 12 fatalities may have occurred inside the building, which was surrounded by authorities, just before noon local time. The FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were responding to the scene, some 60 miles east of Los Angeles.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/02/as-many-as-20-shot-police-in-standoff-in-san-bernardino-calif/

Live video feed
http://fox8.com/2015/12/02/live-coverage-20-victim-shooting-incident-reported-in-san-bernardino/

Quote from: Solar on December 02, 2015, 01:16:30 PM
Been listening to it on the radio, and it would appear to be terrorists, considering where it was located, a gun free zone social services center.

Fatalities feared, 3 hunted after shooting at San Bernardino, Calif., center for disabled

DEVELOPING: Multiple people were reportedly killed Wednesday at a San Bernardino, Calif., social services facility where employees were hosting a Christmas party, and police were hunting three suspects who may have escaped in an SUV.

As many as 30 hostages were seen coming out of the building where the event occurred minutes after the first call went in to police around 11 a.m. local time. Witnesses said three men in masks and body armor stormed the crowded building and opened fire, with one shooting people in a conference room where a Christmas party was taking place, according to the Los Angeles Times. Local Fox affiliate KTTV initially reported that at least 12 fatalities may have occurred inside the building, which was surrounded by authorities, just before noon local time. The FBI and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were responding to the scene, some 60 miles east of Los Angeles.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/12/02/as-many-as-20-shot-police-in-standoff-in-san-bernardino-calif/

Live video feed
http://fox8.com/2015/12/02/live-coverage-20-victim-shooting-incident-reported-in-san-bernardino/

It is clear this one does not fall into the "deranged shooter" category. It was seemingly well planned with the intent of hitting quickly and getting away. As always, it is way too early to fully know what is going on. The question is, will we ever be told the truth?

I saw a report saying the function in the building wasn't the normal employees, but rented out or something.  So motive might be very murky right now.

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 02, 2015, 01:46:59 PM
It is clear this one does not fall into the "deranged shooter" category. It was seemingly well planned with the intent of hitting quickly and getting away. As always, it is way too early to fully know what is going on. The question is, will we ever be told the truth?

Obama will be out in 3....2....Weeeeelll, that didn't take long.

http://www.wsbt.com/news/politics/obama-calls-for-gun-reforms-in-wake-of-san-bernardino-shooting/36761730

To me, this appears to have been an organized criminal event, and very possibly gang involved, perhaps even a cartel sponsored hit. It is also quite possible that this is the handiwork of Obama's black lives matter terrorists, Obama has already taken advantage of this opportunity to make political attacks on American's and American freedoms, is it that far fetched to entertain the possibility of his involvement? Hardly, he and Eric Holder gave guns to the cartels in the eager anticipation of the cartels killing American's, opening the door to them for usurping America's 2nd amendment rights!

14 dead and 14 wounded.  Shooters get away.

How does that happen when the police are there? Nobody watching the back door?

Were they gone before the police arrived?  This is a weird situation.

I suspect the perpetrators' names will include a Mohammed.....


Yes MACman, Obama is going to try to come for our guns!!!

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 02, 2015, 01:46:59 PM
It is clear this one does not fall into the "deranged shooter" category. It was seemingly well planned with the intent of hitting quickly and getting away. As always, it is way too early to fully know what is going on. The question is, will we ever be told the truth?

No, the liberals in the media will attempt to tell us all how a youtube video and gun owning, Constitution loving, conservative American citizen's are to blame instead.

Just came in from Hunting, Mrs Billy told me about it, tuning in it seems the cops are being very GUARDED about what they have.....My take is that it is some sort of gang hit, maybe the cartels, depends on who was renting this place for a party....also they are not releasing the DESCRIPTIONS OF THE SUSPECTS which I am sure the Cops have by now.....My guess is they are B/M's or Hispanic, they don't want to say until they are sure.

They seem farily well orgaized, equipped and armed...that indicates organization and training....Cartels......

I just heard about it...  Shep seems fixated that the killers escaped with no descriptions of anything.  Well, San Bernardino itself will then be the starting clue.  The police will be on this pretty quickly, as always. 

If the Christmas Party was the target, then it's an 'inside' job with izlums or Christian-haters involved.

not good, not good at all...

I will be interesting, the security camera footage (and sound) following the event, in another gun-free zone.  Gee, did they feel safer in a gun-free zone?  or utterly defenseless?  Did anyone have a concealed weapon and try to defend the victims?  many questions remain, but we already know the MSM will try to spin this just like the last one - disarm everyone.

Update:

Cops are in Chase with SUV, shots fired, one suspect down.....

Tactical vehicles have boxed in the SUV.  One suspect still on foot.

Two suspects inside SUV...looks like they are probably dead after shoot out with cops.

I think they are saying that all three of the suspects are "down".... one outside the car and two inside.  Shep was talking about a pool of blood in the street where one suspect was downed.

It is still very sketchy.

If that twitter post is true, I'd bet it's muslime savages practicing their religion of peace again.

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 02, 2015, 01:46:59 PM
It is clear this one does not fall into the "deranged shooter" category. It was seemingly well planned with the intent of hitting quickly and getting away. As always, it is way too early to fully know what is going on. The question is, will we ever be told the truth?

I doubt it, especially if they turn out to be illegals under the Marxists refugee plan.