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Title: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: redbeard on June 22, 2015, 04:42:07 PM
Quotethat's more credible than hearsay about potential staffers."

Mr. Walker left no doubt Saturday about his social conservative credentials.

Before Saturday evening's gala began, Mr. Walker spoke privately to a group of VIP pro-life supporters, reminding them that his work on the issue dated back to his college years working with Birthright at Marquette University. Mr. Walker also expressed that he feels the protection of religious liberties is the foundation of this country and something he vows to continue defending.


Should I choose to get in and have the honor of being elected, you know there will be a champion in the White House for those same shared values," he told the crowd.

Later that night, Mr. Walker opened his keynote speech with a moment of silence and prayer for the "nine brothers and sisters of Christ that were taken on Wednesday" in Charleston as well as for their families, friends and communities.

He expressed his feelings about the recent increase in the polarization of Americans surrounding such events as the Charleston shooting, saying, "It's really about all of us and trying to find a way to bring this country together instead of ways to pull us apart."

During Mr. Walker's keynote dinner speech, he also called for drastic changes in foreign policy, specifically in the Middle East, where the Islamic State is thriving. "Our enemy today is like a virus, and if we don't take it out, it's going to take us out. We need someone who has got the courage to say that, on behalf of your children and mine, I'd rather take the fight to them instead of wait[ing] until they bring the fight to us," he warned.

Mr. Walker also mocked the president's recent speech in which he said climate change was the biggest threat facing America.

"I've got a message for you, Mr. President: The No 1. threat to the military, the No 1. threat to America, the No 1. threat to the world is radical Islam. It's time we do something about it," he said to roaring cheers.

He won several cheers and standing ovations from the crowd of social conservatives, and handed them a heavy dose of his record of success in Wisconsin that ranged from a balanced budget and concessions from public unions to religion-friendly policies.

Seeking to differentiate himself from some of his potential rivals, most of whom serve in an often-dysfunctional Congress or have been out of office for some time, Mr. Walker said he was a unique combination of fighter and election and policy victor.

"We fight the good fight and win those fights over and over and over again," he said.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/20/scott-walker-wows-social-conservatives-withering-a/#ixzz3dpx3WgY2
Looks like Walker is scoring with Social conservatives!
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: darroll on June 22, 2015, 05:01:17 PM
I would vote and be happy with Walker.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2015, 05:20:41 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 22, 2015, 04:42:07 PM
Looks like Walker is scoring with Social conservatives!
How sad is that? When standing up for the First Amendment is considered a social issue.
Or protecting the lives of the innocent. Oh how far we've fallen....
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: redbeard on June 22, 2015, 05:43:40 PM
Quote from: Solar on June 22, 2015, 05:20:41 PM
How sad is that? When standing up for the First Amendment is considered a social issue.
Or protecting the lives of the innocent. Oh how far we've fallen....
The terms social and fiscal conservatives really should be done away with! I believe it is a way the MSM splits the conservative movement. Granted all conservatives have their main goals but most agree with all the conservative issues. There is a great set of conservatives running and I wish some of these RINOs would bow out! Faith & Freedom Coalition is a good example, The ones that scored the best had a message of unity for the conservative base!
By far the majority of fiscal conservatives also have the same values and goals as the so called social conservatives! It is time that we stop letting the MSM define us! 
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Solar on June 22, 2015, 07:07:50 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 22, 2015, 05:43:40 PM
The terms social and fiscal conservatives really should be done away with! I believe it is a way the MSM splits the conservative movement. Granted all conservatives have their main goals but most agree with all the conservative issues. There is a great set of conservatives running and I wish some of these RINOs would bow out! Faith & Freedom Coalition is a good example, The ones that scored the best had a message of unity for the conservative base!
By far the majority of fiscal conservatives also have the same values and goals as the so called social conservatives! It is time that we stop letting the MSM define us!
Nailed it!!!
That's exactly what took place.  Case in point.

Democrats veer left then blast everyone else for being 'right wing'
http://nypost.com/2015/06/21/democrats-march-further-left-then-claim-the-rest-of-nation-is-right-wing/
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 22, 2015, 07:54:47 PM
That's great but social issues kill Conservatives.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: supsalemgr on June 23, 2015, 05:18:10 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 22, 2015, 07:54:47 PM
That's great but social issues kill Conservatives.

The democrats also know this. We have to be diligent not fall into the trap they will try to set for GOP candidates. Step onw would be not to allow the Stephanopolis types to be debate moderators in the primaries.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: kroz on June 23, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 22, 2015, 07:54:47 PM
That's great but social issues kill Conservatives.

We are who we are!   Are you suggesting we compromise on social issues?
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: redbeard on June 23, 2015, 01:47:10 PM
Quote from: kroz on June 23, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
We are who we are!   Are you suggesting we compromise on social issues?
Down playing and moving the debate toward pressing fiscal, immigration and military issues is not compromise! Once in office we can deal with social issues but we have to get there first! Concentrate on our strongest advantages!
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Darth Fife on June 23, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 22, 2015, 07:54:47 PM
That's great but social issues kill Conservatives.

Really?

The social issues that are supposedly a "killer" to Conservatives are the very issues that the Democrats rode to victory on! Of course, if no one opposes them on those issues then, is that really a surprise?

Social issues are not what kill Conservatives. Failure to take a principled Conservative stand on those issues is what does them in!

Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: kroz on June 23, 2015, 01:51:52 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 23, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Really?

The social issues that are supposedly a "killer" to Conservatives are the very issues that the Democrats rode to victory on! Of course, if no one opposes them on those issues then, is that really a surprise?

Social issues are not what kill Conservatives. Failure to take a principled Conservative stand on those issues is what does them in!

Agreed!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: redbeard on June 23, 2015, 02:15:50 PM
Quote from: kroz on June 23, 2015, 01:51:52 PM
Agreed!   :thumbsup:
Social issues are the issues the democrats want us to get bogged down in. If this election turns into that debate instead of the dismal record of the democrat party under Hillary and Obama We will lose!
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: kroz on June 23, 2015, 02:22:02 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 23, 2015, 02:15:50 PM
Social issues are the issues the democrats want us to get bogged down in. If this election turns into that debate instead of the dismal record of the democrat party under Hillary and Obama We will lose!

Why is it limited to one or the other?  I think all issues are fair game and should be on the table.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Darth Fife on June 23, 2015, 02:27:21 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 23, 2015, 02:15:50 PM
Social issues are the issues the democrats want us to get bogged down in. If this election turns into that debate instead of the dismal record of the democrat party under Hillary and Obama We will lose!

If that were true, then why do Liberals (as well as RINOs) keep telling Conservatives they can't win on social issues?

That is kind of like taking advice from the other team on how to win a football game!  :rolleyes:

I think the dirty little secret is that the Democrats know just how unpopular their positions on things like abortion, and homosexual marriage are to the average American. They know that if a Conservative were to mount a principled, intelligent attack against Hilary, or Bernie Sanders, or whomever, the Democrats would be in serious trouble.

The alternative is to let the Democrats set the tone of the campaigns, and if we concede that to them, we've already lost!
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: redbeard on June 23, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 23, 2015, 02:27:21 PM
If that were true, then why do Liberals (as well as RINOs) keep telling Conservatives they can't win on social issues?

That is kind of like taking advice from the other team on how to win a football game!  :rolleyes:

I think the dirty little secret is that the Democrats know just how unpopular their positions on things like abortion, and homosexual marriage are to the average American. They know that if a Conservative were to mount a principled, intelligent attack against Hilary, or Bernie Sanders, or whomever, the Democrats would be in serious trouble.

The alternative is to let the Democrats set the tone of the campaigns, and if we concede that to them, we've already lost!
Why would we want to change the debate from how bad and dishonest these people. The reason they are becoming so unpopular is because they screw up everything they touch! Hillary's baggage is the route to the presidency. Changing that debate would only hurt our chances! 
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Darth Fife on June 23, 2015, 02:40:30 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 23, 2015, 02:33:19 PM
Why would we want to change the debate from how bad and dishonest these people. The reason they are becoming so unpopular is because they screw up everything they touch! Hillary's baggage is the route to the presidency. Changing that debate would only hurt our chances!

What debate?!

The MSM is doing their damnedest to ignore anything negative about the Clinton Foundation, and, for the most part, our wolf pack of presidential wannabe's are letting them get away with it!

Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 23, 2015, 06:49:30 PM
Quote from: kroz on June 23, 2015, 01:41:54 PM
We are who we are!   Are you suggesting we compromise on social issues?

No. I am saying don't fall into traps yet you always will because the media dictates the narrative.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Cryptic Bert on June 23, 2015, 06:50:18 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 23, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
Really?

The social issues that are supposedly a "killer" to Conservatives are the very issues that the Democrats rode to victory on! Of course, if no one opposes them on those issues then, is that really a surprise?

Social issues are not what kill Conservatives. Failure to take a principled Conservative stand on those issues is what does them in!

War on women.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: kroz on June 24, 2015, 06:54:22 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 23, 2015, 06:49:30 PM
No. I am saying don't fall into traps yet you always will because the media dictates the narrative.

I don't think any of the candidates willfully walk into controversial turf.  As you said, the media keeps stoking the fires of controversy.  It makes for good programming.  They are searching for a crack in the armor... softening by the candidate.  Something they can blow out of proportion and make headlines.

That is why it is so important for the conservatives to be strong and well rehearsed on the social issues.  THey are indeed a critical part of our platform.  There is no need for social issues to kill us.  We are right on these matters.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Darth Fife on June 24, 2015, 07:06:45 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 23, 2015, 06:50:18 PM
War on women.

There is no "War on Women"! The only reason the Left and their Lapdog Media get away with claiming there is one, is because the GOP is too cowardly to actively and effective refute that asinine assertion! They don't want to get bogged down with "social issues".

So, the Democrats win that argument by default!

It doesn't take a very high I.Q. to realize that if you don't fight back, you are not going to win! That is why the Democrats keep "advising" us not to fight back on social issues!

If I had my way, every Republican would be required to carry a card in their wallet that says the following:

1. The MEDIA does not like you and never will!

2. There is nothing you can ever do that will make the MEDIA like you!

3. The MEDIA is your enemy!


And they would be required to read that card to themselves three times before every news briefing, interview, or speech!

Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: supsalemgr on June 24, 2015, 08:08:11 AM
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 24, 2015, 07:06:45 AM
There is no "War on Women"! The only reason the Left and their Lapdog Media get away with claiming there is one, is because the GOP is too cowardly to actively and effective refute that asinine assertion! They don't want to get bogged down with "social issues".

So, the Democrats win that argument by default!

It doesn't take a very high I.Q. to realize that if you don't fight back, you are not going to win! That is why the Democrats keep "advising" us not to fight back on social issues!

If I had my way, every Republican would be required to carry a card in their wallet that says the following:

1. The MEDIA does not like you and never will!

2. There is nothing you can ever do that will make the MEDIA like you!

3. The MEDIA is your enemy!


And they would be required to read that card to themselves three times before every news briefing, interview, or speech!

Beware of the MSM talking nice a bout a republican.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: quiller on June 24, 2015, 08:11:39 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 24, 2015, 08:08:11 AM
Beware of the MSM talking nice a bout a republican.
If they are, he probably isn't.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: supsalemgr on June 24, 2015, 09:36:07 AM
Quote from: quiller on June 24, 2015, 08:11:39 AM
If they are, he probably isn't.

It is a trap. They talked nice about McCain and Romney until they were nominated.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Darth Fife on June 24, 2015, 02:39:09 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 24, 2015, 09:36:07 AM
It is a trap. They talked nice about McCain and Romney until they were nominated.

Precisely because that is who the MSM wanted to run against Obama!
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: darroll on June 24, 2015, 04:11:34 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 24, 2015, 02:39:09 PM
Precisely because that is who the MSM wanted to run against Obama!
A big yep.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: daidalos on June 27, 2015, 06:53:01 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 22, 2015, 04:42:07 PM
Looks like Walker is scoring with Social conservatives!
To be honest, when even his own party is outraged and disgusted by what he's doing. I think it's probably more about Obama fatigue at this point.

Than wowing the voters with anti-obama shtick.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: walkstall on June 27, 2015, 07:04:25 PM
Quote from: daidalos on June 27, 2015, 06:53:01 PM
To be honest, when even his own party is outraged and disgusted by what he's doing. I think it's probably more about Obama fatigue at this point.

Than wowing the voters with anti-obama shtick.

When I see Social conservatives, I always think of.
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Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Darth Fife on June 28, 2015, 08:07:59 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 27, 2015, 07:04:25 PM
When I see Social conservatives, I always think of.
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First, let's get our terms right. When people say "Social Conservative" what they really mean is "Christian Conservative".

Next, just like every one who calls himself a Republicans is not necessarily a Conservative, not everyone who calls himself a Christian really is a Christian. The Marxists have done a good job of corrupting and co opting parts of Christianity in much the same way as they have the Republican Party.

Finally, the reason so-called social Conservatives seem so ineffectual on social issues, is because 1) there have been no real Christian Conservative leaders in the Republican Party, 2) they really haven't been fighting back - so far and 3) whenever any Christian Conservative does try to fight for social issues, he is stabbed in the back by party leadership.

I think this SCOTUS activism on Homosexual Marriage is the tipping point for all of that. I think that here, Christian Conservatives will draw their line in the sand.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: walkstall on June 28, 2015, 08:16:11 AM
Quote from: Darth Fife on June 28, 2015, 08:07:59 AM
First, let's get our terms right. When people say "Social Conservative" what they really mean is "Christian Conservative".

Next, just like every one who calls himself a Republicans is not necessarily a Conservative, not everyone who calls himself a Christian really is a Christian. The Marxists have done a good job of corrupting and co opting parts of Christianity in much the same way as they have the Republican Party.

Finally, the reason so-called social Conservatives seem so ineffectual on social issues, is because 1) there have been no real Christian Conservative leaders in the Republican Party, 2) they really haven't been fighting back - so far and 3) whenever any Christian Conservative does try to fight for social issues, he is stabbed in the back by party leadership.

I think this SCOTUS activism on Homosexual Marriage is the tipping point for all of that. I think that here, Christian Conservatives will draw their line in the sand.



Social conservatism


Social conservatism is a group of political ideologies centred around preserving traditional beliefs, attitudes and philosophy, in the face of social progressivism. The aims of social conservatism vary from organisation to organisation, and from country to country. Thus, there are really no policies or positions that could be considered universal among social conservatives.


Reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_conservatism

But then again this is Wikipedia.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: quiller on June 28, 2015, 08:18:22 AM
Okay, so where does the post turtle figure in?
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: walkstall on June 28, 2015, 08:20:21 AM
Quote from: quiller on June 28, 2015, 08:18:22 AM
Okay, so where does the post turtle figure in?

They sit home and don't vote. 
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: quiller on June 28, 2015, 08:23:54 AM
Quote from: walkstall on June 28, 2015, 08:20:21 AM
They sit home and don't vote.
I'll have some more coffee and try to keep up.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: kroz on June 28, 2015, 11:46:09 AM
If we want the socially conservative voters to actually vote, we start by nominating a social conservative candidate much like Reagan.  That would be Ted Cruz!

If we want to ignore this large voting bloc...... we will get the same results as 2012 and 2008!

But the Establishment keeps this from happening because they denigrate and vilify all of the conservative candidates.  And we foolishly keep splitting the conservative vote with too many candidates!
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: wally on June 28, 2015, 12:03:45 PM
Quote from: redbeard on June 23, 2015, 01:47:10 PM
Down playing and moving the debate toward pressing fiscal, immigration and military issues is not compromise! Once in office we can deal with social issues but we have to get there first! Concentrate on our strongest advantages!
I really like this thread; it's RIGHT on, Brother!  :cool: 

One thing missing.  The Libtards and all their enablers (including Chief Justice Roberts) may have overreached in their compromising of our values and what the American people have repeatedly said they do not want any part of (Obamacare and Gay Marriage).  The political pedulum always swings way too far; one way and then to the other side of the specturm.  Why is it that it always seems that until things have gone way too far, the majority of Americans ignore what is happening to this country? 

Obamacare and Gay Marriage represent both social issues and fiscal policy issues that affect our daily lives.  These are not some sort of esoteric issues; they are mainstream, Main Street America issues!

Perhaps, just perhaps...this election; BOTH the social issues and the fiscal issues will be brought together in the American people's total rejection of the Dictatorial Power of the Liberal Elite Oligarchy and those who enable them to forces CHANGE that the majority of people do not want!
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: supsalemgr on June 28, 2015, 12:18:50 PM
Quote from: kroz on June 28, 2015, 11:46:09 AM
If we want the socially conservative voters to actually vote, we start by nominating a social conservative candidate much like Reagan.  That would be Ted Cruz!

If we want to ignore this large voting bloc...... we will get the same results as 2012 and 2008!

But the Establishment keeps this from happening because they denigrate and vilify all of the conservative candidates.  And we foolishly keep splitting the conservative vote with too many candidates!

I absolutely agree with your first paragraph. I do not think we are at the point for 2016 that we are splitting the conservative vote as much as the RINO's are splitting theirs. At this point I only see three conservatives, Cruz, Walker and Jindal. I discount Sanroum as he has little traction and will not go very far. Trump and Fiorina are fiscal conservative, but not the full deal. They do have value in the race. I personally think Paul is a goof ball. Graham and Huckabee are are faux conservatives. Who is left? Bush, Pataki, and Rubio are certified RINO's. Let them mules fight over the leftover corn cobs.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: kroz on June 28, 2015, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: wally on June 28, 2015, 12:03:45 PM
I really like this thread; it's RIGHT on, Brother!  :cool: 

One thing missing.  The Libtards and all their enablers (including Chief Justice Roberts) may have overreached in their compromising of our values and what the American people have repeatedly said they do not want any part of (Obamacare and Gay Marriage).  The political pedulum always swings way too far; one way and then to the other side of the specturm.  Why is it that it always seems that until things have gone way too far, the majority of Americans ignore what is happening to this country? 

Obamacare and Gay Marriage represent both social issues and fiscal policy issues that affect our daily lives.  These are not some sort of esoteric issues; they are mainstream, Main Street America issues!

Perhaps, just perhaps...this election; BOTH the social issues and the fiscal issues will be brought together in the American people's total rejection of the Dictatorial Power of the Liberal Elite Oligarchy and those who enable them to forces CHANGE that the majority of people do not want!

hhmm... speaking of swinging pendulums..... can anyone tell me when the pendulum actually moved too far right?

I am quite serious.  I cannot think of any time within my lifetime that it veered to an extreme Right.

Lest anyone mention McCarthy..... historical records that were only unsealed recently prove that old Joe was actually very much on track with his thinking.  One of Ann Coulter's books covers this "alarm about subversive communism" beautifully.  As far as I know, she is the only one who has researched these newly opened archives.  No one else seems remotely interested.

Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: kroz on June 28, 2015, 12:22:27 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 28, 2015, 12:18:50 PM
I absolutely agree with your first paragraph. I do not think we are at the point for 2016 that we are splitting the conservative vote as much as the RINO's are splitting theirs. At this point I only see three conservatives, Cruz, Walker and Jindal. I discount Sanroum as he has little traction and will not go very far. Trump and Fiorina are fiscal conservative, but not the full deal. They do have value in the race. I personally think Paul is a goof ball. Graham and Huckabee are are faux conservatives. Who is left? Bush, Pataki, and Rubio are certified RINO's. Let them mules fight over the leftover corn cobs.

I totally agree with your analysis but I am not sure all conservatives have your clarity of thought.  You haven't even mentioned Perry who does draw conservative votes from the pool of voters.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: supsalemgr on June 28, 2015, 01:06:47 PM
Quote from: kroz on June 28, 2015, 12:22:27 PM
I totally agree with your analysis but I am not sure all conservatives have your clarity of thought.  You haven't even mentioned Perry who does draw conservative votes from the pool of voters.

To me Perry is in there with Huckabee and Graham. I don't think he wil llast long either. I really believe the SC primary will reduce the field significantly.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: kroz on June 28, 2015, 02:37:02 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on June 28, 2015, 01:06:47 PM
To me Perry is in there with Huckabee and Graham. I don't think he wil llast long either. I really believe the SC primary will reduce the field significantly.

I sure hope you are right!!!  Because the new Super Tuesday comes on the heels of S.C. primary.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: liberalman on July 01, 2015, 12:03:44 AM
walker is the Koch brothers bitch,   Go trump he is man enough and he is not gonna rely on some man as a sugar daddy.   Back a guy that makes his own money.   Walker depends on the Koch brothers money ,   So when they give him money they expect something.  that is not a man
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: supsalemgr on July 01, 2015, 04:21:51 AM
Quote from: liberalman on July 01, 2015, 12:03:44 AM
walker is the Koch brothers bitch,   Go trump he is man enough and he is not gonna rely on some man as a sugar daddy.   Back a guy that makes his own money.   Walker depends on the Koch brothers money ,   So when they give him money they expect something.  that is not a man

What is your opinion of the liberal politicians who march the drum of George Soros?
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: redbeard on July 01, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
Quote from: kroz on June 23, 2015, 02:22:02 PM
Why is it limited to one or the other?  I think all issues are fair game and should be on the table.
And how many times have we seen the libs frame an election around one stupid statement a senate candidate made that has cost us an election? Stick to our winning issues! " It's the economy stupid" Remember Bill? We have the other party by the short hairs on so many issues why would we want to put such a distraction in the debate? Hillary wants to frame herself as the women's savior Why would we want to give her ammunition by changing the debate to Abortion?
All we need is anyone of our conservatives to win! We already know their record on these social issues. Fight this fight on the record of the liberals and we will win! Show how untrustworthy Hillary is and we will win! They want to change the debate, Why let them?
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: Dori on July 01, 2015, 10:43:24 AM
Quote from: liberalman on July 01, 2015, 12:03:44 AM
walker is the Koch brothers bitch,   Go trump he is man enough and he is not gonna rely on some man as a sugar daddy.   Back a guy that makes his own money.   Walker depends on the Koch brothers money ,   So when they give him money they expect something.  that is not a man

You sound like someone who reads Mother Jones.  At least the Koch Brothers aren't a bunch of communists that support liberals.

Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: supsalemgr on July 01, 2015, 01:22:22 PM
Quote from: redbeard on July 01, 2015, 10:37:02 AM
And how many times have we seen the libs frame an election around one stupid statement a senate candidate made that has cost us an election? Stick to our winning issues! " It's the economy stupid" Remember Bill? We have the other party by the short hairs on so many issues why would we want to put such a distraction in the debate? Hillary wants to frame herself as the women's savior Why would we want to give her ammunition by changing the debate to Abortion?
All we need is anyone of our conservatives to win! We already know their record on these social issues. Fight this fight on the record of the liberals and we will win! Show how untrustworthy Hillary is and we will win! They want to change the debate, Why let them?

Absolutely correct! The e-mail situation is something people understand. The democrats and MSM will do everything they can to distract from this. We need a candidate who can articulate this situation eloquently and frequently. We already have a head start as over 50% of the folks do not think she is honest and trustworthy. Those people will not vote for her.
Title: Re: Scott Walker wows social conservatives with attacks on Obama
Post by: redbeard on July 01, 2015, 04:03:40 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on July 01, 2015, 01:22:22 PM
Absolutely correct! The e-mail situation is something people understand. The democrats and MSM will do everything they can to distract from this. We need a candidate who can articulate this situation eloquently and frequently. We already have a head start as over 50% of the folks do not think she is honest and trustworthy. Those people will not vote for her.
Know why Hillary wants Jeb to run against? "Terri Schiavo"! Hillary will dredge up and run on this poor dead girls body! This is not where we want this election to head