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Guess what demographic will put him in office. Nothing surprises me anymore.
The Dems will back a third party candidate and split the vote and presto another red state falls.
I think it was on this board where someone said, time to pass a law that if you are on public assistance you can't vote due to a conflict of interest.
I know that's a stretch but it sure as hell isn't a bad idea.
Quote from: Rhea_Markable on November 07, 2013, 05:22:02 AM
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Guess what demographic will put him in office. Nothing surprises me anymore.
The Dems will back a third party candidate and split the vote and presto another red state falls.
I think it was on this board where someone said, time to pass a law that if you are on public assistance you can't vote due to a conflict of interest.
I know that's a stretch but it sure as hell isn't a bad idea.
I am not sure I understand your reasoning.
Being a native Georgian I can tell you being Jimmy Carter's grandson is not a positive. GA has trended GOP for quite a few years and is solid red. I can't see a third party being a factor in GA.
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 07, 2013, 06:09:45 AM
I am not sure I understand your reasoning.
Being a native Georgian I can tell you being Jimmy Carter's grandson is not a positive. GA has trended GOP for quite a few years and is solid red. I can't see a third party being a factor in GA.
That's my point, he's not a positive. I suspect that the dems will play the same game again in Georgia while the RINOs in the G.O.P. will not back a true conservative.
I'm with you not against you.
Well, since our side was too weak to play the game in VA, will we be too weak to play the game or win in GA ?
If Carter's spawn gets traction in the race, we just need to run a fake AGW-green-anti oil guy..........."independent" of course.
THAT's how the game is played today.
Or we could, as always, lose by doing nothing but hoping, then spend untold hours and days crying that it was unfair and we must be winning in some unknown, bizarre way.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 07:20:50 AM
Well, since our side was too weak to play the game in VA, will we be too weak to play the game or win in GA ?
If Carter's spawn gets traction in the race, we just need to run a fake AGW-green-anti oil guy..........."independent" of course.
THAT's how the game is played today.
Or we could, as always, lose by doing nothing but hoping, then spend untold hours and days crying that it was unfair and we must be winning in some unknown, bizarre way.
Can't disagree with much that you said. We know their tactics and should be planning on the same. But once again, I'll bet we do nothing, lose the state and whine about it later. :angry: Time to be proactive, not reactive.
In today's game it is getting harder and harder to take the high road. Once we resort to the Dems tactics :sneaky: we will be tried, found guilty and burned at the stake by the MSM. :ohmy:
Damned if we do and screwed if we don't.
Toy
Well, if we're still worried about what the press says, we should be thrown in the gulag already.
That's what turned most of the GOP into RINO's, being scared of the liberal MSM. Now it's grown into general greed and corruption, but that's another story.
Amping up their anger & hate by playing dirty as hell can only help....it's the only way they'd ever discuss their own cheating, if we're rough enough to throw it back at them when they scream.
Quote from: Rhea_Markable on November 07, 2013, 07:23:02 AM
Can't disagree with much that you said. We know their tactics and should be planning on the same. But once again, I'll bet we do nothing, lose the state and whine about it later. :angry: Time to be proactive, not reactive.
We've only been taken to the woodshed by Clinton twice and Obama twice, and countless senator & rep ripoff losses.
We need to learn the lesson one of these days. Didn't learn it yet for Cucinelli.
Will we let Alexander, Graham, the Carter "grandson of Chucky", and several more.......school us some more ?
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 07:48:02 AM
We've only been taken to the woodshed by Clinton twice and Obama twice, and countless senator & rep ripoff losses.
We need to learn the lesson one of these days. Didn't learn it yet for Cucinelli.
Will we let Alexander, Graham, the Carter "grandson of Chucky", and several more.......school us some more ?
When you're right, you're right. Everytime a Lib wins it's another stake in America's heart. Pretty soon we will "bleed out".
We'll bleed out before this hidden army of disgruntled silent majority conservatives hiding in the hills.........shows up.
But I guess we have twelve months to get them on their horses and riding toward the Little Big Horn, which will take place in Nov 2014.
They don't show up then, with 12 months of training and motivation and hellacious gutter fighting to rally them.......
.......time for Solar to step aside for vinny.
Big wins in 2014 earns additional TP hope & change. Lose or draw in 2014.....no more TP hope & change allowed.
Why is son of the son of the cardigan a shoe-in?
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 08:08:16 AM
We'll bleed out before this hidden army of disgruntled silent majority conservatives hiding in the hills.........shows up.
But I guess we have twelve months to get them on their horses and riding toward the Little Big Horn, which will take place in Nov 2014.
They don't show up then, with 12 months of training and motivation and hellacious gutter fighting to rally them.......
.......time for Solar to step aside for vinny.
Big wins in 2014 earns additional TP hope & change. Lose or draw in 2014.....no more TP hope & change allowed.
I don't believe it will come to that, I believe we would see the beginnings of a civil war.
For the conservative movement to fail, there would have to be outright blatant election fraud involved, in turn causing a major uprising in the country, people are pissed as it is, all it would take is an usurping of the peoples voice, and like a lit match, there'd be fire.
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 07, 2013, 08:14:45 AM
Why is son of the son of the cardigan a shoe-in?
LIV's vote for bullshit, nothing else.
They will create commercials and entire movements that make the little SOB into the guy that they pretend Carter was/is, whenever he's signing books at a liberal campus somewhere.
The south is conservative, but there's also a nice untapped bed of LIV poor folks and snarky college kids, who will fall for a newer better giver of freebies.
The trick is to destroy him with the obvious Carter story / truth. It's what they would do for us, I promise. They did it for 9 conservative prez candidates not named Romney in 2008, then for Romney at the big game.
Don't do it, give the state of GA back to the libs.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 08:25:18 AM
LIV's vote for bullshit, nothing else.
They will create commercials and entire movements that make the little SOB into the guy that they pretend Carter was/is, whenever he's signing books at a liberal campus somewhere.
The south is conservative, but there's also a nice untapped bed of LIV poor folks and snarky college kids, who will fall for a newer better giver of freebies.
The trick is to destroy him with the obvious Carter story / truth. It's what they would do for us, I promise. They did it for 9 conservative prez candidates not named Romney in 2008, then for Romney at the big game.
Don't do it, give the state of GA back to the libs.
"The south is conservative, but there's also a nice untapped bed of LIV poor folks and snarky college kids, who will fall for a newer better giver of freebies."
That's the key that I have been alluding to here and elsewhere. It's why I say we are outnumbered when push comes to shove.
Quote from: Rhea_Markable on November 07, 2013, 08:30:08 AM
"The south is conservative, but there's also a nice untapped bed of LIV poor folks and snarky college kids, who will fall for a newer better giver of freebies."
That's the key that I have been alluding to here and elsewhere. It's why I say we are outnumbered when push comes to shove.
You and Andy need to attend a Tea event in your area, you just might be surprised at the work going on behind the scenes.
We are not outnumbered, that is the illusion the media presents, not a reality.
Quote from: Rhea_Markable on November 07, 2013, 08:30:08 AM
"The south is conservative, but there's also a nice untapped bed of LIV poor folks and snarky college kids, who will fall for a newer better giver of freebies."
That's the key that I have been alluding to here and elsewhere. It's why I say we are outnumbered when push comes to shove.
But I think even those groups of people can be turned off by the lying, cheating, stealing of the country if we actually play the game to win.
African Americans, and Hispanics, always have been the strongest conservative religious folks going. How did we lose all of that, while the liberals were just pandering with lies and bribes ?
It happened because we watched them do it and were too busy playing golf and having picnics at the country club. Keeping our starched whites clean while the filthy enemy was crawling past us for the win.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 08:54:16 AM
But I think even those groups of people can be turned off by the lying, cheating, stealing of the country if we actually play the game to win.
African Americans, and Hispanics, always have been the strongest conservative religious folks going. How did we lose all of that, while the liberals were just pandering with lies and bribes ?
It happened because we watched them do it and were too busy playing golf and having picnics at the country club. Keeping our starched whites clean while the filthy enemy was crawling past us for the win.
Handouts trumps values. African Americans are against gay marriage etc. So are Hispanics but take away both groups entitlements and you're asking for trouble.
I've never been totally convinced of that.
I've got a wonderful Mexican-American in-laws family that loved Reagan, hated Pete Wilson, and don't care much for illegals. Catholic and totally conservative fiscally.
Same with the African-American community. Maybe Baptist or AME instead of Catholic, but that's about it.
That's the bulwark of the minority community.
But we just don't get the truth out about how they're being used and abused by the liberals, and their country's being destroyed by the libs.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 09:12:02 AM
I've never been totally convinced of that.
I've got a wonderful Mexican-American in-laws family that loved Reagan, hated Pete Wilson, and don't care much for illegals. Catholic and totally conservative fiscally.
Same with the African-American community. Maybe Baptist or AME instead of Catholic, but that's about it.
That's the bulwark of the minority community.
But we just don't get the truth out about how they're being used and abused by the liberals, and their country's being destroyed by the libs.
Having a black family I have to agree with you, I'm white but I often go to a black dominated church
(its not black exclusive, but the neighbourhood is pretty much a "black neighbourhood") and the people there are conservative in all values and are hard working with most running their own businesses, they would vote conservative in a heartbeat, but the problem is that they don't identify with conservative party due to lack of racial representation in not only the candidates but the political message and the liberal created "racist right" myth.
Social Identification is extremely important, boys need men as role models no matter how "manly" a lesbian woman can act the boy will not identify with her. Same with politics, doesn't matter how politically aligned minorities are with the Republican Party if they do not identify with it and through the media are told every day of every hour that the Republicans hate you. And the most important lesson from 2012 election imo was that
"cares about people like me" was the most important factor that trumped everything else, especially since Romney won on almost every other issue.
Not saying GOP needs to have affirmative action in with putting forward black candidates only based on ethnicity, but what they need to do is hammer liberals and expose their "positive racism" and drag their condescending racist attitudes into the light and fight for the votes of minorities by exposing the liberals and not dance around the issue doing photoshoots with minorities as a politial stunt like Cuccinelli did by having ads of women saying that he is a nice guy. Pathetic.
Quote from: Rhea_Markable on November 07, 2013, 08:59:41 AM
Handouts trumps values. African Americans are against gay marriage etc. So are Hispanics but take away both groups entitlements and you're asking for trouble.
Oh stop. For all intents and purposes their are two black communities. Although according to the media - and far too many conservatives - only the welfare mamas, crook daddies and government poagies exist. Blacks that don't fit those categories, seem to have "disappeared".
WTH is a poagie ? Sounds like a sandwich.
Sometimes I think the conservative portions of the minority communities are just like the peaceful muslims.
Yeah, I'm sure they're out there, and are the majority of their communities, but........
.......it's just not worth the trouble to be seen and heard going against the lunatic bloc.
Just like the good people don't go against Al Capone, or the Bloods & Crips, or MS 13, or whatever.
And it almost seems like the liberals have co-opted this phenomenon. It's not worth going against liberalism in these communities, just not worth the trouble they'll make for you.
That may be our biggest hurdle and challenge.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
WTH is a poagie ? Sounds like a sandwich.
Sometimes I think the conservative portions of the minority communities are just like the peaceful muslims.
Yeah, I'm sure they're out there, and are the majority of their communities, but........
.......it's just not worth the trouble to be seen and heard going against the lunatic bloc.
Just like the good people don't go against Al Capone, or the Bloods & Crips, or MS 13, or whatever.
And it almost seems like the liberals have co-opted this phenomenon. It's not worth going against liberalism in these communities, just not worth the trouble they'll make for you.
That may be our biggest hurdle and challenge.
What did I say about using the quote tab?
Final warning!
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 11:48:16 AM
WTH is a poagie ? Sounds like a sandwich.
Sometimes I think the conservative portions of the minority communities are just like the peaceful muslims.
Yeah, I'm sure they're out there, and are the majority of their communities, but........
.......it's just not worth the trouble to be seen and heard going against the lunatic bloc.
Just like the good people don't go against Al Capone, or the Bloods & Crips, or MS 13, or whatever.
And it almost seems like the liberals have co-opted this phenomenon. It's not worth going against liberalism in these communities, just not worth the trouble they'll make for you.
That may be our biggest hurdle and challenge.
I had the opportunity to work with quite a few Black folks during my career and became friends with them. They were quite successful and I asked how they were accepted in their community. To the person they told me a certain segment of community treated their success negatively. This confirms Giles' assessment that there is a divide within these communities.
Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 12:00:15 PM
What did I say about using the quote tab?
Final warning!
Oh for God's sake.
I sense some "alternate bureaucrat gotcha" relating to topical arguments, here.
So whatever. What's the penalty for syntax crimes ? Life.....3 days....5 minutes plus a game misconduct ?
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 07, 2013, 12:01:23 PM
I had the opportunity to work with quite a few Black folks during my career and became friends with them. They were quite successful and I asked how they were accepted in their community. To the person they told me a certain segment of community treated their success negatively. This confirms Giles' assessment that there is a divide within these communities.
I think this phenomenon is pretty well established.
Is this most of the conservative's problem with the minority communities ?
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 12:03:58 PM
Oh for God's sake.
I sense some "alternate bureaucrat gotcha" relating to topical arguments, here.
So whatever. What's the penalty for syntax crimes ? Life.....3 days....5 minutes plus a game misconduct ?
Three day time out.
I have no idea what your, "alternate bureaucrat gotcha" means.
The point is, I have to read these posts, and you, the biggest offender of lazy, makes it so I have to search up to see who you responded to, this takes time, time I don't like to waste.
So either comply, or find another forum.
The world doesn't revolve around you.
Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 12:10:48 PM
The world doesn't revolve around you.
Yes it does.
Not knowing the "Andy law" doesn't excuse breaking it.
Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 12:10:48 PM
I have no idea what your, "alternate bureaucrat gotcha" means.
I was saying that you were using minutiae to get back at me with your administrative authority, because of our arguments over issues.
Just an opinion.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 12:24:25 PM
Yes it does.
Not knowing the "Andy law" doesn't excuse breaking it.
LOL!
Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 12:26:48 PM
LOL!
Damn, back to getting along OK.
I should'na been so honest in my last post.
My bad.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 12:26:36 PM
I was saying that you were using minutiae to get back at me with your administrative authority, because of our arguments over issues.
Just an opinion.
You are not the first one or will you be the last one to be ask over and over to use the quote function. It get old very fast it has not one thing to do with arguments issues. When I look at a post that is not quoted I have no idea what or who someone is talking about young man.
The great state of Georgia will not fall under the rule of Obama and his tit sucker. For one we have voter ID laws here in Georgia so that crap that gets pulled in other states won't happen here in Georgia.
The democraps held onto Georgia for a long time and then a big wake-up call happened and bingo the democraps got booted to the curb and the freedoms of the conservatives view started to take hold. Here in Georgia we love our freedom to much to let Obama and his tit sucker take hold. My friends try another state with them negitive soundbites.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 12:28:35 PM
Damn, back to getting along OK.
I should'na been so honest in my last post.
My bad.
Andy, I think you're a great poster, and I have no issues with you personally either, I just need to cooperation of the members to help make the mods and my job easier, that's all.
Sometimes I have to play a heavy hand, it comes with the territory.
Quote from: Solar on November 07, 2013, 03:47:00 PM
Andy, I think you're a great poster, and I have no issues with you personally either, I just need to cooperation of the members to help make the mods and my job easier, that's all.
Sometimes I have to play a heavy hand, it comes with the territory.
I apologize for the insult / accusation.
Your site, your rules.
You seem like good people.
Quote from: Rhea_Markable on November 07, 2013, 05:22:02 AM
The Dems will back a third party candidate and split the vote and presto another red state falls.
You might wanna fine-tune that analysis. Buchanan, Nader, Perot, John Anderson... 'vote-splitters', all.
McAuliffe has a double-digit and somebody decides to waste money on a third-party
'bunny'? Campaign-staffs don't think like that. Mc's poll-numbers shrank within 100-hours, or from Thursday-eve. There's no time to grasp at a bunny, thinking that it's gonna help. The dropping-numbers wouldn't be that scary enough until about Sunday-eve, or about 30-hours till the polls open.
I can only conclude that the Obama-bundler backed a third-party because he abhorred McAuliffe.
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 07, 2013, 10:38:54 PM
I apologize for the insult / accusation.
Your site, your rules.
You seem like good people.
No need, I completely understand. I'm sure I come off as a tyrant to many.
What many don't understand is the agenda behind this site. I want a clean running, message oriented site with a unified voice of winning, something severely lacking from the leadership on the right.
A mission of "Take No Prisoners", if you're liberal, you are the enemy, no more capitulation.
But when people start doing as they please and ignoring the policy of the forum, it attracts another element, which is why I nail the racist BS and kick people at the first sign of racism, there is no room for it on the right, we need everyone on message of killing liberalism, not petty traps set by the left.
When people come here and see an orderly forum and people on message, it not only attracts of like mind, it sends an even stronger message to the viewing public, one, of group of driven Conservatives with their sights focused on key issues.
Many don't realize posting here is like having their own megaphone and soapbox, both party's check in daily, as well as the media and thousands of others trying to understand Conservatism and the Conservative message.
When you post here, you're not talking to just a handful of poster, you're talking to a huge audience around the world.
When you have a moment, copy one of the better posts on the forum, occasionally you'll find it verbatim on another forum, many steal posts from this forum, and we're fine with that, it means we control the agenda, we are setting message, not the RINO in the party.
Sorry if that was a bit windy, but it needs to be said on occasion.