The rest of the world looks at us with pity. What a FUBAR situation.
Rise in Covid hospitalizations signals pandemic entering dangerous new phasehttps://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/hospitalization-rise-is-cause-for-concern/
QuotePatients suffering from COVID-19 are rapidly filling hospitals across the South and West, with Mississippi, Tennessee, Texas, Nevada and Arizona setting records for hospitalizations Thursday, a sign that the coronavirus pandemic is entering a dangerous new phase.
In Arizona, where the virus appears to be spreading out of control, hospitals rushed to expand capacity and adopted practices similar to those employed at the height of the outbreak in New York City and Italy, including doubling up hospital beds in rooms, pausing elective surgeries and bringing in health-care workers from other states.
Perhaps most chillingly, at the urging of doctors and advisers, state officials this week activated "crisis standards of care" protocols, which determine for hospitals which patients get ventilators and care as the system becomes overwhelmed under the crush of patients.
Quote from: Castle_Bravo on July 03, 2020, 06:12:57 AM
The rest of the world looks at us with pity. What a FUBAR situation.
Rise in Covid hospitalizations signals pandemic entering dangerous new phase
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/hospitalization-rise-is-cause-for-concern/
The rest of the world looks at us with envy casshole_bravado.
Quote from: Castle_Bravo on July 03, 2020, 06:12:57 AM
The rest of the world looks at us with pity. What a FUBAR situation.
Yeah, look at the mess the left is making of their Dim run shitholes, yet millions from around te world still want to immigrate here.
Guess where they want to settle? Sure as Hell isn't DC!
I wonder how many of these new WU flu patients were tearing down statues, burning buildings & throwing bricks at the cops?
I wonder again at how many are u vaccinated illegal aliens that snuck into OUR COuntry carrying not only the Chinese virus but TB, HEp B& C and a host of other third world diseases?
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 03, 2020, 07:37:07 AM
I wonder how many of these new WU flu patients were tearing down statues, burning buildings & throwing bricks at the cops?
I wonder again at how many are u vaccinated illegal aliens that snuck into OUR COuntry carrying not only the Chinese virus but TB, HEp B& C and a host of other third world diseases?
All we hear about is more cases, more cases. Yes their are more cases because of more testing. Of those tested how many test positive? 80 % do not. How many of those that have symptoms DIE? That is the critical number. The recovery rate is around 99%. Of those that DIE how many have pre existing conditions. NEVER hear those RESULTS. Just more cases, more cases and spread more FEAR, more FEAR. :cursing: :cursing:
Quote from: Solar on July 03, 2020, 07:27:58 AM
Yeah, look at the mess the left is making of their Dim run shitholes, yet millions from around te world still want to immigrate here.
Guess where they want to settle? Sure as Hell isn't DC!
Also if this country is so BAD don't see anyone in LINE to LEAVE. Certainly no Pro Jocks, Hollywood, RINOS, LIBS and everyone wants to come to this hellhole. How many said if TRUMP elected in 2016 they would leave the country? In most cases the people would pay for their ONE WAY plane ticket. NOT ONE left and CHER is still doing anyone that can get it UP. :lol: :lol:
The reality is there is no crisis. Hospitals arent filling up.
Quote from: nzone on July 03, 2020, 08:25:00 AM
All we hear about is more cases, more cases. Yes their are more cases because of more testing. Of those tested how many test positive? 80 % do not. How many of those that have symptoms DIE? That is the critical number. The recovery rate is around 99%. Of those that DIE how many have pre existing conditions. NEVER hear those RESULTS. Just more cases, more cases and spread more FEAR, more FEAR. :cursing: :cursing:
One must wonder how many test false positive
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 03, 2020, 10:28:07 AM
One must wonder how many test false positive
funny how so many come up WITH covid within 24 hours of the test. Know what i'm sayin'. suspicious to me.
Quote from: Castle_Bravo on July 03, 2020, 06:12:57 AM
The rest of the world looks at us with pity. What a FUBAR situation.
Rise in Covid hospitalizations signals pandemic entering dangerous new phase
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/hospitalization-rise-is-cause-for-concern/
what a load of BS.
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 10:20:07 AM
The reality is there is no crisis. Hospitals arent filling up.
the truth right here. Hospitals are NOT filling up with covid patients...they're filling up...but not at capacity by the people who were afraid to enter the hospital over the past 4 months and with people who are not having their elective surgeries. I fear for them because I don't know if that bounty for covid patients is still in effect. So they could conceivably be exposed in the hospital. Nosocomial infections.
The media is flat out lying.
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Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 03, 2020, 11:50:17 AM
the truth right here. Hospitals are NOT filling up with covid patients...they're filling up...but not at capacity by the people who were afraid to enter the hospital over the past 4 months and with people who are not having their elective surgeries. I fear for them because I don't know if that bounty for covid patients is still in effect. So they could conceivably be exposed in the hospital. Nosocomial infections.
The media is flat out lying.
Plenty of beds available in california
(https://scontent.forf1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106327186_10163664510195433_7687027529745663476_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQkyVOlJE0N2Qh9SNa1pD7dlNk3x_FUYw__PDDxQNi8oU6imI5YNrPu9G09V_MIgxwE&_nc_ht=scontent.forf1-3.fna&oh=d78cee1dbebe208d26eef890404ad91d&oe=5F26C5A3)
In reality they are below average capacity in California. Newsome, pig vomit, is punishing everyone because hispanic AG workers are bumping up cases while deaths continue to fall
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 02:01:22 PM
Plenty of beds available in california
(https://scontent.forf1-3.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/106327186_10163664510195433_7687027529745663476_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_oc=AQkyVOlJE0N2Qh9SNa1pD7dlNk3x_FUYw__PDDxQNi8oU6imI5YNrPu9G09V_MIgxwE&_nc_ht=scontent.forf1-3.fna&oh=d78cee1dbebe208d26eef890404ad91d&oe=5F26C5A3)
In reality they are below average capacity in California. Newsome, pig vomit, is punishing everyone because hispanic AG workers are bumping up cases while deaths continue to fall
Link?
And yes, hospitals get a bonus if a patient comes in with lung cancer and they call it a corona hospitalization
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 02:06:12 PM
And yes, hospitals get a bonus if a patient comes in with lung cancer and they call it a corona hospitalization
that's fraud..and it should be prosecuted.
https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1279139798549069824 (https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1279139798549069824)
Its from Justin Hart who has been on top of this non-crisis from the beginning. What filthwad liberals wont tell you is hospitals, like any businees need to operate at near 100% capacity to make a profit. Week 26 is now by the way. And again, Newsome is punishing everyone for hispanic AG workers.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 03, 2020, 02:07:35 PM
that's fraud..and it should be prosecuted.
Its happening as we speak. You come in the hospital for a gall bladder removal, you test positive for corona with no symptons, and they convert you to a corona hospitalization to get extra money. If the fed govt ended to payouts to hospitals for corona, corona hospitalizations would plunge
I dont know if you can see this but everyone in CA is being punished because the top 5 counties have almost all the cases coming now from mexican AG workers
https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID-19HospitalsDashboard/Hospitals?:embed=y&:showVizHome=no (https://public.tableau.com/views/COVID-19HospitalsDashboard/Hospitals?:embed=y&:showVizHome=no)
From te CA dept of health. Notice after the top 5 counties corona isnt even a blip in CA.
You will have to click the link and not surprisingly people in CA are pissed off because corona is NOTHING in 90% of the state
Something else you wont see in the media. Corona is quickly dissipating.
https://twitter.com/pdubdev/status/1279078464138575872 (https://twitter.com/pdubdev/status/1279078464138575872)
And remember something, the CDC is now saying we have at least 10times more people who have had it, and i say its probably 30 times more since the CDC has been consistently wrong. But 10 times more infections means divide that 1% by 10 and you get a flu death rate.
Quote from: Castle_Bravo on July 03, 2020, 06:12:57 AM
The rest of the world looks at us with pity. What a FUBAR situation.
Rise in Covid hospitalizations signals pandemic entering dangerous new phase
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/hospitalization-rise-is-cause-for-concern/
Well in that case I suspect you don't want anyone's pity so make a new country... home.
Quote"I think it's pretty obvious that we are not going in the right direction," Anthony Fauci, the country's top infectious-disease expert, said during a YouTube live stream.
We all know how consistent and correct Dr. Fooci has been, don't we? :rolleyes:
This goes along with the last post i made. The pandemic is over.
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The COVID epidemic is over.
Per CDC guidelines the epidemic threshold is crossed when a disease causes more than 7.2% of the total weekly deaths. COVID became a CDC defined epidemic in the 1st week of April and stopped being one in mid-June.
You have to take time to look for it, but there is plenty of sober accurate infor out there. This is why i am so pissed off with Trump. Fauci wants lockdowns and i doubt trump sees any of this
This is Arizona where the idiot REPUBLICAN governor is panicking over nothing
https://twitter.com/pdubdev/status/1279091908959059969 (https://twitter.com/pdubdev/status/1279091908959059969)
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 02:57:26 PM
This is Arizona where the idiot REPUBLICAN governor is panicking over nothing
https://twitter.com/pdubdev/status/1279091908959059969 (https://twitter.com/pdubdev/status/1279091908959059969)
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must have been like this in Germany as the Nazis were taking over.....businesses busting their asses to appease the new incoming leaders. Media currying favor and reporting falsehoods directed by government. In our case, blue state governments attempting to impose their will over sane americans. Nazi common folk ready and willing to take action against jews and the inferior.. the unborn, elderly, infirm, trump supporters. People wearing this that and the other, doing this that and the other to show their support of their new masters so as to be eaten last.
Just click on the blue bird in the tweet and it comes right up.
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 02:12:16 PM
https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1279139798549069824 (https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1279139798549069824)
Its from Justin Hart who has been on top of this non-crisis from the beginning. What filthwad liberals wont tell you is hospitals, like any businees need to operate at near 100% capacity to make a profit. Week 26 is now by the way. And again, Newsome is punishing everyone for hispanic AG workers.
What I wanted was his source to that chart. I know for a fact that Norcal is not experiencing any issues with hospitalization, they're virtually empty, with the exception of people finally getting much needed care they were forbidden earlier.
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 02:18:58 PM
Its happening as we speak. You come in the hospital for a gall bladder removal, you test positive for corona with no symptons, and they convert you to a corona hospitalization to get extra money. If the fed govt ended to payouts to hospitals for corona, corona hospitalizations would plunge
And I bet you can not prove any of this. You and fake news have a lot in common. Will cnn lead off with this story tonight or was that last night?
Quote from: Possum on July 03, 2020, 03:42:40 PM
And I bet you can not prove any of this. You and fake news have a lot in common. Will cnn lead off with this story tonight or was that last night?
You really dont know what you are talking about, do you? Why would CNN want to debunk the panic?
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 03:38:54 PM
https://twitter.com/pdubdev
https://twitter.com/Tony__Heller
https://twitter.com/kylamb8
https://twitter.com/Covid19Crusher
https://twitter.com/ianmSC
https://twitter.com/AlistairHaimes
https://twitter.com/boriquagato
https://twitter.com/justin_hart
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic
https://twitter.com/alexberenson
https://twitter.com/YossiGestetner
https://twitter.com/TomFitton
When i have time i will have more. All very accurate and documented.
Quote from: Solar on July 03, 2020, 03:42:24 PM
What I wanted was his source to that chart. I know for a fact that Norcal is not experiencing any issues with hospitalization, they're virtually empty, with the exception of people finally getting much needed care they were forbidden earlier.
All i can tell you is Justin Hart is totally accurate. I have no doubt to question him and i assume its from the ca dept of health, just like the link i shared about the individual counties. As far as Possum goes, thats the aggravating thing. Even the people on here mostly get their info from CNN, MSNBC, AND FOX. Do some research and digging for yourself.
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 03:45:34 PM
You really dont know what you are talking about, do you? Why would CNN want to debunk the panic?
I missed the part where you proved what you were saying. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 03:48:51 PM
Even the people on here mostly get their info from CNN, MSNBC, AND FOX. Do some research and digging for yourself.
I highly doubt that!
Quote from: ldub23 on July 03, 2020, 03:48:51 PM
All i can tell you is Justin Hart is totally accurate. I have no doubt to question him and i assume its from the ca dept of health, just like the link i shared about the individual counties. As far as Possum goes, thats the aggravating thing. Even the people on here mostly get their info from CNN, MSNBC, AND FOX. Do some research and digging for yourself.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Getting your information for cnn, msnbc and fox is not research, you are just showing how gullible you are.
Are people still pretending that we're in a pandemic?
Quote from: taxed on July 03, 2020, 04:46:26 PM
Are people still pretending that we're in a pandemic?
Yeah, and they are losing their sense of humor too. Had a guy tell me ( i guess because I was not wearing a mask) that HE was wearing a mask for my protection. I told him that's why I carry, for HIS protection. Really agitated the poor dipshit.
Quote from: Calypso Jones on July 03, 2020, 11:46:54 AM
what a load of BS.
I'd say its more than "a load of BS". IMO, it's a hyped disinformation program engineered to control the 'herd' attack POTUS and maintain lofty ratings.
There's little or no separation of scheduled surgeries that were put on hold and new Covid entries, making it appear that 'hospitalizations' are on the increase solely due to the "pandemic."
The truth lies in the information/data the media is not providing:
One example,
Number of deaths vs. number of infected
Quote from: WMK on July 04, 2020, 04:59:05 AM
I'd say its more than "a load of BS". IMO, it's a hyped disinformation program engineered to control the 'herd' attack POTUS and maintain lofty ratings.
There's little or no separation of scheduled surgeries that were put on hold and new Covid entries, making it appear that 'hospitalizations' are on the increase solely due to the "pandemic."
The truth lies in the information/data the media is not providing:
One example,
Number of deaths vs. number of infected
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Texas is shutting down bars again, adding new restrictions to other businesses. Most of the patrons who go to bars are young, healthy, employed, have health insurance, etc, is this not the group that needs to get the virus in order to gain herd immunity? I do not think this will be solved by hiding under a rock.
Quote from: Possum on July 04, 2020, 06:24:38 AM
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Texas is shutting down bars again, adding new restrictions to other businesses. Most of the patrons who go to bars are young, healthy, employed, have health insurance, etc, is this not the group that needs to get the virus in order to gain herd immunity? I do not think this will be solved by hiding under a rock.
Had there been no lock-down, and those most vulnerable been quarantined properly from the onset, this so called 'second wave' would have already been reduced to a mere ripple and many more Americans would have been more emboldened to be basking inthis summer and getting on with their lives.
No hospital bed crisis in arizona
https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1279417557313654785 (https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1279417557313654785)
https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1279417560505520128 (https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1279417560505520128)
Plenty of space available in all the "hotspot states
https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1279413970835607552 (https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1279413970835607552)
Quote from: WMK on July 04, 2020, 07:57:35 AM
Had there been no lock-down, and those most vulnerable been quarantined properly from the onset, this so called 'second wave' would have already been reduced to a mere ripple and many more Americans would have been more emboldened to be basking inthis summer and getting on with their lives.
Had we done nothing at all fewer people would be dead
Quote from: ldub23 on July 04, 2020, 10:03:52 AM
Had we done nothing at all fewer people would be dead
If Andrew Cuomo had an accident and been knocked unconscious for a month or so, thousands more would probably be alive today.
Quote from: WMK on July 11, 2020, 03:14:17 PM
If Andrew Cuomo had an accident and been knocked unconscious for a month or so, thousands more would probably be alive today.
no doubt.