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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: hokiewoodchuck on April 19, 2012, 07:09:38 AM

Title: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: hokiewoodchuck on April 19, 2012, 07:09:38 AM
This gives pause to think....how 'bout we renouce our citizenship and stay right where we are. No taxes, free health care and benefits due to illegal status.....
Something to think about and to be concerned about as well.....

Record number of Americans renouncing their citizenship to avoid paying taxes
Record 1,800 people renounced U.S. citizenship last year alone, up eight times the number of those who did in 2008
US one of few countries to tax its citizens on income earned while abroad

Taxes for ex-patriots are notoriously difficult; income up to $95,100 isn't taxed under Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, but wealthy must also pay 'exit tax' to leave States
Many expats are unaware of complicated laws and often have to pay thousands of dollars in in fines

By Reuters Reporter and Daily Mail Reporter
PUBLISHED: 15:32 EST, 17 April 2012 | UPDATED: 16:47 EST, 17 April 2012
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As millions of Americans are scrambling to get their tax returns postmarked by this evening, a smaller sect did something much more drastic and renounced their US citizenship.
Last year alone, almost 1,800 people renounced their U.S. citizenship or handed in their Green Cards – and many of them said it was because of tax reasons.
That's a record number since the Internal Revenue Service began publishing a list of those who renounced in 1998. It's also almost eight times more than the number of citizens who renounced in 2008, and more than the total for 2007, 2008 and 2009 combined.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2131225/Record-number-American-citizens-renouncing-citizenship-avoid-paying-taxes.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2131225/Record-number-American-citizens-renouncing-citizenship-avoid-paying-taxes.html)

Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: quiller on April 19, 2012, 09:10:31 AM
Meanwhile, the resident muslim refuses to prove he actually IS an American, and his illegal immigrant relatives go un-deported.
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: Ford289HiPo on April 19, 2012, 06:32:18 PM
The article is a bit misleading. I know of several people, mostly former military, who just went overseas and stayed. There is quite a large expat community in the Philippines and in Thailand, many of whom told the US to piss up a rope years ago due to it's BS taxation policies. The "exit tax" is also a little flakey since many of the "rich" already have bank accounts overseas and the US doesn't have reporting treaty's with all of them.  If there is no treaty in place, the IRS is barking up a tree when it comes to arresting these expats.
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: hokiewoodchuck on April 19, 2012, 07:26:20 PM
The main talking point of the article is the rapid increase in the expats. Do they know something we should other than the tax policies?
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: Ford289HiPo on April 21, 2012, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: hokiewoodchuck on April 19, 2012, 07:26:20 PM
The main talking point of the article is the rapid increase in the expats. Do they know something we should other than the tax policies?
Yep- it's cheaper to live in a lot of other country's, and just as safe. Those expats are voting with their feet.
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: BILLY Defiant on April 21, 2012, 04:38:51 PM
As an Expat, I will NEVER renounce my citizenship....I might liquidate all my property and take all my assets out of the US if Hussein wins another term, but I'd never turn in my passport etc...how would I get back when the fighting actually starts?


Billy
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: wizard on April 21, 2012, 04:46:13 PM
Several people I know have moved to Costa Rica in the past few years. Another friend moved to Australia about 30 years ago. He was originally from the Bronx. He told me "The US is the insane asylum of the world" - and then he said "And the Bronx is the insane asylum of the US"
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: Solar on April 21, 2012, 05:17:41 PM
Quote from: Bad water BILLY on April 21, 2012, 04:38:51 PM
As an Expat, I will NEVER renounce my citizenship....I might liquidate all my property and take all my assets out of the US if Hussein wins another term, but I'd never turn in my passport etc...how would I get back when the fighting actually starts?


Billy
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: BILLY Defiant on April 21, 2012, 05:34:44 PM
Quote from: wizard on April 21, 2012, 04:46:13 PM
Several people I know have moved to Costa Rica in the past few years. Another friend moved to Australia about 30 years ago. He was originally from the Bronx. He told me "The US is the insane asylum of the world" - and then he said "And the Bronx is the insane asylum of the US"


Everyday I see more and more retired types moving to Asia from the US....they all say the same thing.


Billy
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: hokiewoodchuck on April 21, 2012, 06:23:45 PM
Quote from: Bad water BILLY on April 21, 2012, 04:38:51 PM
As an Expat, I will NEVER renounce my citizenship....I might liquidate all my property and take all my assets out of the US if Hussein wins another term, but I'd never turn in my passport etc...how would I get back when the fighting actually starts?


Billy

Not a problem, we will first take control of the border and entry points to insure only the ones we want in can get in. Something our goobermint can't do......so they say.
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: Ford289HiPo on April 22, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Quote from: Bad water BILLY on April 21, 2012, 04:38:51 PM
As an Expat, I will NEVER renounce my citizenship....I might liquidate all my property and take all my assets out of the US if Hussein wins another term, but I'd never turn in my passport etc...how would I get back when the fighting actually starts?


Billy
Swim the Rio Grande. Thousands have done it. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Renouncing US citizenship on the rise due to IRS tax policy.
Post by: Dr_Watt on April 22, 2012, 01:33:24 PM
Quote from: Ford289HiPo on April 22, 2012, 01:10:08 PM
Swim the Rio Grande. Thousands have done it. :rolleyes:

Yeah, well, unfortunately Mexico actually enforces its illegal immigration laws!

-Dr Watt