I read somewhere that while the Electors meet tomorrow there final decision wont be known until Jan 6th when it is opened on the floor of congress.. I am guilty of not knowing how this process works, when the electors meet tomorrow will we know where they cast their support or if they will deny their states electors (If they have the guts)
For the life of me I cannot find where I read that we wont know til the 6th so sorry, I cant follow this up with a link.
The elector votes will be sent in tomorrow. But, Mike Pence is the one in charge of "counting" them. He is presumed to only count elector votes from states that sent in Trump loyal electors giving Trump 100% of the electoral vote. This will be met with legal and congressional blowback. This is where the military gets involved. They will keep order and also suspend congress giving oppertunity to install President Trump as not just our president, but eventually our permanent emperor.
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 13, 2020, 10:13:36 PM
The elector votes will be sent in tomorrow. But, Mike Pence is the one in charge of "counting" them. He is presumed to only count elector votes from states that sent in Trump loyal electors giving Trump 100% of the electoral vote. This will be met with legal and congressional blowback. This is where the military gets involved. They will keep order and also suspend congress giving oppertunity to install President Trump as not just our president, but eventually our permanent emperor.
Where do you socialists come up with this shit....:lol:
Quote from: Owebo on December 14, 2020, 03:08:07 AM
Where do you socialists come up with this shit....:lol:
You are throwing the word socialist out there quite flippantly. As for where this comes from here is a great read by a very well read Trump conservative who has figured this out.
https://macris.substack.com/p/trump-at-the-rubicon
Quote from: trumpconservative221 on December 14, 2020, 04:11:39 AM
You are throwing the word socialist out there quite flippantly. As for where this comes from here is a great read by a very well read Trump conservative who has figured this out.
https://macris.substack.com/p/trump-at-the-rubicon
Please do tell us the "government crimes" President Trump has committed.........?
American Mom asked a good question. I think she deserves a proper answer.
Quote from: Tory Potter on December 14, 2020, 05:45:53 AM
American Mom asked a good question. I think she deserves a proper answer.
Because no one knows. The DNC got caught cheating, so all normal timelines went out the window.
No matter what someone claims, it won't be Right, but there is one thing certain, Trump will be seated.
Libs will be freakin out... :lol:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners,....
.....and many others voted illegally. Also, machine "glitches" (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, "stuffing the ballot box", votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took....
·....place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!
Quote from: AmericanMom on December 13, 2020, 07:47:50 PM
I read somewhere that while the Electors meet tomorrow there final decision wont be known until Jan 6th when it is opened on the floor of congress.. I am guilty of not knowing how this process works, when the electors meet tomorrow will we know where they cast their support or if they will deny their states electors (If they have the guts)
For the life of me I cannot find where I read that we wont know til the 6th so sorry, I cant follow this up with a link.
If I remember right from school, and if nothing has changed, and that is two big "ifs", when we vote for president we are actually voting for electors who have pledged to vote for that candidate. Ex. I "voted" for Trump, in reality I vote for electors who have pledged to vote for Trump. I do not think they have to and could legally change their vote to someone else. These votes should happen today and will be counted Jan. 6th, but it is a rare instance where an elector did not vote for whom they pledged.
take that answer with a grain of salt, it has been a year or two since I have been in school.
Quote from: Solar on December 14, 2020, 06:01:49 AM
Libs will be freakin out... :lol:
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
Swing States that have found massive VOTER FRAUD, which is all of them, CANNOT LEGALLY CERTIFY these votes as complete & correct without committing a severely punishable crime. Everybody knows that dead people, below age people, illegal immigrants, fake signatures, prisoners,....
.....and many others voted illegally. Also, machine "glitches" (another word for FRAUD), ballot harvesting, non-resident voters, fake ballots, "stuffing the ballot box", votes for pay, roughed up Republican Poll Watchers, and sometimes even more votes than people voting, took....
·....place in Detroit, Philadelphia, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Pittsburgh, and elsewhere. In all Swing State cases, there are far more votes than are necessary to win the State, and the Election itself. Therefore, VOTES CANNOT BE CERTIFIED. THIS ELECTION IS UNDER PROTEST!
Oh no it's under protest? I don't think that's how it works :lol: :lol:
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on December 14, 2020, 06:59:31 AM
Oh no it's under protest? I don't think that's how it works :lol: :lol:
Apparently "how it works" as far as the Democrats were concerned was with fraud, ballot stuffing, ballot harvesting, counting only Democrat illegal votes and throwing away votes for President Trump. The Dems don't want the election protested, they want Conservatives to roll over and allow them to fraudulently scam the election like they have done everything else...
Quote from: Possum on December 14, 2020, 06:56:43 AM
If I remember right from school, and if nothing has changed, and that is two big "ifs", when we vote for president we are actually voting for electors who have pledged to vote for that candidate. Ex. I "voted" for Trump, in reality I vote for electors who have pledged to vote for Trump. I do not think they have to and could legally change their vote to someone else. These votes should happen today and will be counted Jan. 6th, but it is a rare instance where an elector did not vote for whom they pledged.
take that answer with a grain of salt, it has been a year or two since I have been in school.
This sounds about right. The electors are going to give Biden his 270+ votes. Congress counts it, and then we do the inauguration.
Quote from: Possum on December 14, 2020, 06:56:43 AM
If I remember right from school, and if nothing has changed, and that is two big "ifs", when we vote for president we are actually voting for electors who have pledged to vote for that candidate. Ex. I "voted" for Trump, in reality I vote for electors who have pledged to vote for Trump. I do not think they have to and could legally change their vote to someone else. These votes should happen today and will be counted Jan. 6th, but it is a rare instance where an elector did not vote for whom they pledged.
take that answer with a grain of salt, it has been a year or two since I have been in school.
I'm saying this from memory only & I have no idea of the intricacies involved, but I recall when Trump was first elected there were electors in several states he won who refused to cast their vote for him, this was one tactic the left as trying the last time, it failed of course but they were pushing it claiming fraud/Russia etc.
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 14, 2020, 07:09:30 AM
This sounds about right. The electors are going to give Biden his 270+ votes. Congress counts it, and then we do the inauguration.
Yep...however, that only works with legal votes...unlike this time.....
Quote from: Bronx on December 14, 2020, 05:43:12 AM
Please do tell us the "government crimes" President Trump has committed.........?
"Government Crimes" is anything the libs can fabricate out of the either that day. Our President has not committed any real crimes, but will definitely be hounded by the libs with more and more witch hunts.
Quote from: Owebo on December 14, 2020, 07:31:20 AM
Yep...however, that only works with legal votes...unlike this time.....
So, what, in your reality, do you expect to happen today?
Quote from: DrJellyfingers on December 14, 2020, 06:59:31 AM
Oh no it's under protest? I don't think that's how it works :lol: :lol:
That's because you have no clue of how our Constitution works. Trump is POTUS and will be for another 4 years, get used to it. The Marxists coup failed!
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 14, 2020, 07:37:26 AM
So, what, in your reality, do you expect to happen today?
I am expecting a fraudulent vote to be tallied....you?
Quote from: Owebo on December 14, 2020, 07:45:27 AM
I am expecting a fraudulent vote to be tallied....you?
Oh, okay. You've changed your tune. Earlier you were saying that the electors weren't going to give Biden his votes this time because "that only works with legal votes".
Now you're saying that they're going to give him fraudulent votes...
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 14, 2020, 08:06:01 AM
Oh, okay. You've changed your tune. Earlier you were saying that the electors weren't going to give Biden his votes this time because "that only works with legal votes".
Now you're saying that they're going to give him fraudulent votes...
No, you're saying that.....
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 14, 2020, 07:09:30 AM
This sounds about right. The electors are going to give Biden his 270+ votes. Congress counts it, and then we do the inauguration.
jeez. look at the kind o partisans that are Electors. There's absolutely no way that Biden doesn't get his 270.
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1338539782947868675?s=20
The only hope for Trump now is on January 6th, I believe. Maybe he can convince House and Senate members not to certify the election...
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 14, 2020, 07:37:26 AM
So, what, in your reality, do you expect to happen today?
Trump is sending his own legitimate electors to vote. Now on Jan 6th pence will simply count trumps and not the illegal delegates. Ive told you before, trump holds all the cards here and there is literally nothing the left can do to stop him. Have you sky screaming ready to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNCL7ZlUFe8&fbclid=IwAR3rDRnq-vCjFz05rzwc1GaFQZrkzcXxDVl4UNItBS79rvBAIRCHAcoCocA
Quote from: ModelCitizen on December 14, 2020, 09:57:26 AM
jeez. look at the kind o partisans that are Electors. There's absolutely no way that Biden doesn't get his 270.
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1338539782947868675?s=20
The only hope for Trump now is on January 6th, I believe. Maybe he can convince House and Senate members not to certify the election...
Why? A majority of legal electors are voting for trump today.
Quote from: Possum on December 14, 2020, 06:56:43 AM
If I remember right from school, and if nothing has changed, and that is two big "ifs", when we vote for president we are actually voting for electors who have pledged to vote for that candidate. Ex. I "voted" for Trump, in reality I vote for electors who have pledged to vote for Trump. I do not think they have to and could legally change their vote to someone else. These votes should happen today and will be counted Jan. 6th, but it is a rare instance where an elector did not vote for whom they pledged.
take that answer with a grain of salt, it has been a year or two since I have been in school.
you are close. It is a sealed vote they do today. It is opened and counted in Congress on Jan 6. Electors at one time were free. But states have tighten up the rules and have mandated electors follow the vote of the state in qualifying which slate will actually vote.
Quote from: Dave on December 14, 2020, 11:10:26 AM
you are close. It is a sealed vote they do today. It is opened and counted in Congress on Jan 6. Electors at one time were free. But states have tighten up the rules and have mandated electors follow the vote of the state in qualifying which slate will actually vote.
I think in the last election some electors were threatening to go against their states and vote hildog, but the SC said the 'faithless electors' still must vote how they were told.
Quote from: Possum on December 14, 2020, 06:56:43 AM
If I remember right from school, and if nothing has changed, and that is two big "ifs", when we vote for president we are actually voting for electors who have pledged to vote for that candidate. Ex. I "voted" for Trump, in reality I vote for electors who have pledged to vote for Trump. I do not think they have to and could legally change their vote to someone else. These votes should happen today and will be counted Jan. 6th, but it is a rare instance where an elector did not vote for whom they pledged.
take that answer with a grain of salt, it has been a year or two since I have been in school.
I was busy in the kitchen today but was able to follow along with a few of the news outlets that were covering it. As of right now both men have the electoral votes to be President and by the contested swing states sending their Republican votes for Trump it allows him to continue litigation in those states, as I heard it today and it makes sense, had they not certified for him he wouldnt have had standing to continue the fight.
I also listened in reference to what Solar said, by the dems certifying votes in places like MI it puts their heads on the chopping block when the fraud is fully revealed for the American people. .
Quote from: AmericanMom on December 14, 2020, 09:08:28 PM
I was busy in the kitchen today but was able to follow along with a few of the news outlets that were covering it. As of right now both men have the electoral votes to be President and by the contested swing states sending their Republican votes for Trump it allows him to continue litigation in those states, as I heard it today and it makes sense, had they not certified for him he wouldnt have had standing to continue the fight.
I also listened in reference to what Solar said, by the dems certifying votes in places like MI it puts their heads on the chopping block when the fraud is fully revealed for the American people. .
Yep, Trump warned them and they refused to listen, so some RINO will be prosecuted along with the Dims.
Quote from: Solar on December 15, 2020, 04:56:55 AM
Yep, Trump warned them and they refused to listen, so some RINO will be prosecuted along with the Dims.
Oh the Fraud is out. Michigan Audit took care of that, and now Arizona is auditing its machines. And, the FBI, Rangers and Federal Marshalls raided Smartmatic. They have their internet monitoring programs and anyone who bought an Orion Systems program, are on them.
Any liberal who supports Biden is complicit and In My Book, are just as bad as those who perpetrated the crime.
Just my 2 cents.
Quote from: tiny1 on December 15, 2020, 08:48:43 AM
Oh the Fraud is out. Michigan Audit took care of that, and now Arizona is auditing its machines. And, the FBI, Rangers and Federal Marshalls raided Smartmatic. They have their internet monitoring programs and anyone who bought an Orion Systems program, are on them.
Any liberal who supports Biden is complicit and In My Book, are just as bad as those who perpetrated the crime.
Just my 2 cents.
Add to that, Solar Winds. :thumbup: