Quote from: Solar on January 12, 2015, 08:47:18 AM
Better answer would be a Fair Tax system, completely usurping govts ability to discriminate.

I'm with you, but I'm also realistic enough to know that ain't gonna happen. At least not in our life time.

Quote from: Darth Fife on January 12, 2015, 08:52:45 AM
I'm with you, but I'm also realistic enough to know that ain't gonna happen. At least not in our life time.

Too much power and payola in controlling the IRS, for senators and reps.

The only time fair tax will happen is when there's a revolution toward statesmen again, who simultaneously pursue term limits, dropping their royalty retirements and insurance, dropping the exemption to laws for themselves, etc.

Right now we've got about 98% skimming / scamming crooks, and 2% TP.  We'd have to get a TP majority to change these various scams.

Quote from: Dori on January 12, 2015, 06:38:39 AM
Some idiot on "Meet the Press" tried to equate this to the nut job that killed all those kids on that island in Norway in 2011.  His reasons he said were to save Western Europe from a Muslim takeover.

Anders Breivik killed norwegian youths and wanted to use christianity as a vehicle to start a race war, he disliked the Bible, never read it or cared for Jesus, yet the MSM says he is a christian, also nevermind the fact that he was a member of the socialist masonic lodge and gave the communist salute during his trial.

As someone close to me said, if he wanted to stop the socialists, why did he do the best possible move for them and create 69 martyrs? The reason is obvious, Anders Breivik was and is a communist all along.

Quote from: wally on January 12, 2015, 05:59:12 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of modern thinking Muslims (we have many doctors, dentists, nurses etc. and there are educated Muslims throughout our society)have a similar view of the Quoran.  Our Liberal Media is already pointing out David Korech was a Christian religious cult Leader, as if there is some sort of moral equivilence or the magnitude of this sort of behavior on the fringes of the Christian community is some how equivelent to that in the worldwide nation of Islam.  True, we have our Christian nut cases, but they are not Terrorists trying to further the establishment of one world wide religious goverment (Caliphate) as our enemy is doing.  The left doesn't like facts!

Indeed, what you would find with "modern" muslims is that they are not religious, I have lived in Muslim majority neighbourhood for 15 years and hanged out with many muslim friends and I never once saw the pray to Allah, NOT ONCE, not even on our sleepovers. Only religious thing they did was never eat pork in general and they stuffed themselves with junk food before ramadan, that was it. So even though they are muslim as in ethnicity,they are not Muslim as in followers of Islam. So demanding expulsion of Islam does not require expulsion of muslim, we just need a better ethnic word for them as I don't sand people is civil.

As for the religious muslims that say they are against terror I would point out this article
http://www.meforum.org/2095/islams-doctrines-of-deception

Quote from: Mountainshield on January 12, 2015, 10:30:48 AM
Indeed, what you would find with "modern" muslims is that they are not religious, I have lived in Muslim majority neighbourhood for 15 years and hanged out with many muslim friends and I never once saw the pray to Allah, NOT ONCE, not even on our sleepovers. Only religious thing they did was never eat pork in general and they stuffed themselves with junk food before ramadan, that was it. So even though they are muslim as in ethnicity,they are not Muslim as in followers of Islam. So demanding expulsion of Islam does not require expulsion of muslim, we just need a better ethnic word for them as I don't sand people is civil.

As for the religious muslims that say they are against terror I would point out this article
http://www.meforum.org/2095/islams-doctrines-of-deception

My sister is married to an Iranian.  (His entire family was placed under a sentence of death during the Muscum Revolution which overthrew the Shah).  Through him, I've come to know several Muslims through the years and none of them are overly 'religious".  Infact, after 9/11 he told me, "My Brother, what we first do is we must first kill all the Mullahs".  In their world (the world from which he fled) it is just that simple!  He absolutely hates Jimmy Carter and condems him and holds him resposnsible for what happened to his country and the Middle East! 

I recall my brother-in-law telling me that when he grew up in Iran, uniformed American servicemen were everywhere. He said we all loved the Americans and wanted to be just like the Americans.
He said , if you were an American Serviceman and you came up to me on the street and did slap my face, I would ask "My Brother, how have I offended you".  This is the way children were raised under the Shah!  (Muscum Terrorists were executed...as a reward for giving up all the information they had about terror networkd and terrorist activities... and they did give up what they knew!!!)

Millions of Muslims suffer and tens of thousands are killed every year, because Libtards care so damn much about the "human rights" of (what amounts to a handful) of stinking Terrorists!  The Middle East (and the entire world) now has to deal with much more violence than we ever did while the Shah of Iran allowed us to make Iran our Aircraft Carrier in the Middle East!

We had Iranians is our old neighborhood.  I've worked with some too, but they called themselves Persians.  However, I don't believe they were Muslims.  One man told me he was a Christian born in Iran in a little village that mostly spoke Aramaic.  Very few people can speak that language anymore.