Quote from: EHMakeup on January 23, 2013, 08:46:12 PM
Well, whoever the communist party wants to support is up to them, I don't put a lot of stake in anything the say, so its sort of a wash to me on that front. However, I get your point, though I disagree. Dems do support gay rights, and they do support higher taxes, however no higher then taxes then what existed in the 80's and 90's. The difference being that they are willing to compromise. It's not a their way or the highway kind of argument. The dems seem to understand the importance of compromise, I don't see that out the GOP.

Why should the GOP compromise the destruction of our country and economy?  That's the last thing I want them to do. 

The word "compromise" sounds nice and happy, like we're all playing ring-around-the-rosie in a field and holding hands, but compromising with the Marxist anti-Americans in the Democrat party is an unpatriotic and anti-American thing to do.

Quote from: taxed on January 23, 2013, 08:49:47 PM
Why should the GOP compromise the destruction of our country and economy?  That's the last thing I want them to do. 

The word "compromise" sounds nice and happy, like we're all playing ring-around-the-rosie in a field and holding hands, but compromising with the Marxist anti-Americans in the Democrat party is an unpatriotic and anti-American thing to do.

Oh wow, is all I have to say. Wasn't the whole idea behind the creation of America, to allow people of differing and opposing views to co-exist constructively in the same country, and work for the benefit of all?

Quote from: EHMakeup on January 23, 2013, 08:52:05 PM
Oh wow, is all I have to say. Wasn't the whole idea behind the creation of America, to allow people of differing and opposing views to co-exist constructively in the same country, and work for the benefit of all?

Liberals aren't exactly the most tolerant or approving of pro-American views.  They are destructive to our society.  It's not that I have a differing opinion with the guy breaking into my house.  Wrong is wrong.

Quote from: taxed on January 23, 2013, 09:04:36 PM
Liberals aren't exactly the most tolerant or approving of pro-American views.  They are destructive to our society.  It's not that I have a differing opinion with the guy breaking into my house.  Wrong is wrong.

Destructive to society, by who's measure, conservatives? Duh, of course they are going to say that. They entire idea behind opposing ideals, is to ensure no one group exerts dominance over another. Check and balances keep every thing on an even playing field, and provides for disagreeing to be settled by practicality. Calling anyone who thinks differently then you names, and deeming them irrelevant doesn't provide for constructive solutions. It provides for anger, violence and chaos. Just something to think about.

Quote from: EHMakeup on January 23, 2013, 09:10:58 PM
Destructive to society, by who's measure, conservatives? Duh, of course they are going to say that. They entire idea behind opposing ideals, is to ensure no one group exerts dominance over another. Check and balances keep every thing on an even playing field, and provides for disagreeing to be settled by practicality. Calling anyone who thinks differently then you names, and deeming them irrelevant doesn't provide for constructive solutions. It provides for anger, violence and chaos. Just something to think about.

Someday when you get in the real world, you will understand a little more.  The only groups with dominance over others is the government over the people, which is what we are pulling our hair out over.

Quote from: taxed on January 23, 2013, 09:15:44 PM
Someday when you get in the real world, you will understand a little more.  The only groups with dominance over others is the government over the people, which is what we are pulling our hair out over.

Alright, you come off as a know-it-all, condescending ass, but I'm bored, so I'll go with it. Societies without a governing body don't last in the real world, that apparently I know nothing about. We have the most potential for a government that truly represents the will and desires of it's people. However, an entire generation of people  buried their heads in the sand and allowed the US government to make all of the decisions without a lot of attention or influence. As a result, we have an inefficient, full of pointless funding, for ineffectual initiatives, government. I just can't see the fix for this problem being, "fuck it, everyone's lying and it's all a conspiracy". I believe in the country the founders created, and I believe we can come together, regardless of our differences in belief, and solve our problems. Sure, it's idealistic, but it's not impossible.

Quote from: EHMakeup on January 23, 2013, 09:29:42 PM
Alright, you come off as a know-it-all, condescending ass, but I'm bored, so I'll go with it.

I will sound that way to you, because I have experience and you don't.  You are clearly a child (based on your posts) and clearly have no experience.

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Societies without a governing body don't last in the real world, that apparently I know nothing about. We have the most potential for a government that truly represents the will and desires of it's people. However, an entire generation of people  buried their heads in the sand and allowed the US government to make all of the decisions without a lot of attention or influence. As a result, we have an inefficient, full of pointless funding, for ineffectual initiatives, government. I just can't see the fix for this problem being, "fuck it, everyone's lying and it's all a conspiracy". I believe in the country the founders created, and I believe we can come together, regardless of our differences in belief, and solve our problems. Sure, it's idealistic, but it's not impossible.

You don't really grasp the severity of what's going on.

Quote from: taxed on January 23, 2013, 09:36:45 PM
I will sound that way to you, because I have experience and you don't.  You are clearly a child (based on your posts) and clearly have no experience.

You don't really grasp the severity of what's going on.

Alright, then teach me. With all of your experience, whatever that may be, what solution do you have? Is taking the entire government structure apart, plunging our country into chaos, and taking the world with us, the answer the our disagreements? Because all I get out the contributions you have put forth, is that we're screwed, and there is no way to fix it, so lets start an all out war in the world and destroy everything. Is there even the slightest possibility that our problems can be addressed and sorted out by rational discussion, based on facts? I would love to know what the path forward is, from someone who believes to knows more then I do.

Quote from: EHMakeup on January 23, 2013, 09:47:53 PM
Alright, then teach me. With all of your experience, whatever that may be, what solution do you have? Is taking the entire government structure apart, plunging our country into chaos, and taking the world with us, the answer the our disagreements? Because all I get out the contributions you have put forth, is that we're screwed, and there is no way to fix it, so lets start an all out war in the world and destroy everything. Is there even the slightest possibility that our problems can be addressed and sorted out by rational discussion, based on facts? I would love to know what the path forward is, from someone who believes to knows more then I do.

One place to start is to chip away at the Union stronghold.  They are legally allowed to take money from people who are forced to join the union if they want to have a job, and funnel that money to the Democrat party.

Are you familiar with the destruction unions cause?

Quote from: taxed on January 23, 2013, 09:59:08 PM
Are you familiar with the destruction unions cause?

I might, but I would love to hear about it. Could you include the level of influence you think the unions have on the democrats, in comparison to the influence that the Koch Brothers have on the republicans?

Quote from: EHMakeup on January 23, 2013, 10:08:16 PM
I might, but I would love to hear about it. Could you include the level of influence you think the unions have on the democrats, in comparison to the influence that the Koch Brothers have on the republicans?

Who the heck is dependant on the Koch Brothers(who I'd never even heard of until last year) for employment other than their immediate staff? The unions control a broad spectrum of labor across the nation ALWAYS HAVE

Unions are flat out democrat...have been since my father was a Union official in the steel mills in the 1960's.

However, I'd be willing to bet a there are a lot of pub voting union members because not every one is a sock puppet.

Quote from: EHMakeup on January 23, 2013, 10:08:16 PM
I might, but I would love to hear about it. Could you include the level of influence you think the unions have on the democrats, in comparison to the influence that the Koch Brothers have on the republicans?

This is where it's difficult for people like me to communicate with people like yourself.  To even attempt to compare the Koch Brothers versus the power of the unions exposes how you really, really have no clue about anything.  I think it's adorable, but I just don't have the energy for you young lady.

Quote from: taxed on January 23, 2013, 10:29:36 PM
This is where it's difficult for people like me to communicate with people like yourself.  To even attempt to compare the Koch Brothers versus the power of the unions exposes how you really, really have no clue about anything.  I think it's adorable, but I just don't have the energy for you young lady.

Trust me taxed, you would be wasting your time. 

Quote from: walkstall on January 23, 2013, 10:38:38 PM
Trust me taxed, you would be wasting your time.

I'm afraid you're right.  Probably a good kid, but she isn't really interested in learning.

Quote from: taxed on January 23, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
I'm afraid you're right.  Probably a good kid, but she isn't really interested in learning.

   I been watching the MySpace two step all night long.