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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 10:40:20 AM

Title: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 10:40:20 AM
About time...

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President Trump signed three executive orders Friday containing sweeping reforms that weaken protections for federal workers and eliminate perks for the unions that represent them.

Under the new executive orders, unions will be charged rent for federal office space and will not be reimbursed for travel expenses or for hours spent appealing worker firings.

All federal workers will be ordered to spend 75 percent of their time on government work, and agencies are ordered to publicly post union contracts in an online repository.

Trump ordered the termination of an Obama-era policy that says leniency for one worker sets a precedent protecting others from firing, and shortened review periods preceding discipline for poor-performing employees.

more @
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/05/25/president-trump-brings-hammer-federal-employee-unions/


Also

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President Donald Trump on Friday signed a trio of executive orders to overhaul the federal bureaucracy by making it easier to fire federal workers for poor performance and misconduct, requiring that departments and agencies negotiate better union contracts and limiting the amount of time certain federal workers can spend on union business.

Labor unions immediately criticized the moves.

"These executive orders will make it easier for agencies to remove poor performing employees and ensure that taxpayer dollars are more efficiently used," Andrew Bremberg, Trump's chief domestic policy adviser, told reporters at a briefing. Bremberg said the orders fulfill Trump's promise to "promote more efficient government by reforming our civil service rules."

more @
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-federal-worker-misconduct-firing/2018/05/25/id/862548/?oRef=outbrain
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: Solar on May 28, 2018, 10:45:26 AM
Man, that literally kneecaps Marxist Unions. Trump continues to impress us on a daily basis. :thumbup:
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: supsalemgr on May 28, 2018, 10:48:22 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 10:40:20 AM
About time...

snip~
President Trump signed three executive orders Friday containing sweeping reforms that weaken protections for federal workers and eliminate perks for the unions that represent them.

Under the new executive orders, unions will be charged rent for federal office space and will not be reimbursed for travel expenses or for hours spent appealing worker firings.

All federal workers will be ordered to spend 75 percent of their time on government work, and agencies are ordered to publicly post union contracts in an online repository.

Trump ordered the termination of an Obama-era policy that says leniency for one worker sets a precedent protecting others from firing, and shortened review periods preceding discipline for poor-performing employees.

more @
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/05/25/president-trump-brings-hammer-federal-employee-unions/


Also

snip~
President Donald Trump on Friday signed a trio of executive orders to overhaul the federal bureaucracy by making it easier to fire federal workers for poor performance and misconduct, requiring that departments and agencies negotiate better union contracts and limiting the amount of time certain federal workers can spend on union business.

Labor unions immediately criticized the moves.

"These executive orders will make it easier for agencies to remove poor performing employees and ensure that taxpayer dollars are more efficiently used," Andrew Bremberg, Trump's chief domestic policy adviser, told reporters at a briefing. Bremberg said the orders fulfill Trump's promise to "promote more efficient government by reforming our civil service rules."

more @
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-federal-worker-misconduct-firing/2018/05/25/id/862548/?oRef=outbrain

This is just sound business practice. A good and efficient business cannot allow the inmates to run the asylum.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 10:56:12 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 28, 2018, 10:48:22 AM
This is just sound business practice. A good and efficient business cannot allow the inmates to run the asylum.


I would like seeing the FULL union contract, not just the BS little book the union give out to their members.  But every thing said throughout negotiations.  Not that small hand book of 25 to 50 pages, but the full 3.000 to 10.000 pages of negotiations.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: |Glitch| on May 28, 2018, 11:02:18 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 10:40:20 AM
About time...

snip~
President Trump signed three executive orders Friday containing sweeping reforms that weaken protections for federal workers and eliminate perks for the unions that represent them.

Under the new executive orders, unions will be charged rent for federal office space and will not be reimbursed for travel expenses or for hours spent appealing worker firings.

All federal workers will be ordered to spend 75 percent of their time on government work, and agencies are ordered to publicly post union contracts in an online repository.

Trump ordered the termination of an Obama-era policy that says leniency for one worker sets a precedent protecting others from firing, and shortened review periods preceding discipline for poor-performing employees.

more @
https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/05/25/president-trump-brings-hammer-federal-employee-unions/


Also

snip~
President Donald Trump on Friday signed a trio of executive orders to overhaul the federal bureaucracy by making it easier to fire federal workers for poor performance and misconduct, requiring that departments and agencies negotiate better union contracts and limiting the amount of time certain federal workers can spend on union business.

Labor unions immediately criticized the moves.

"These executive orders will make it easier for agencies to remove poor performing employees and ensure that taxpayer dollars are more efficiently used," Andrew Bremberg, Trump's chief domestic policy adviser, told reporters at a briefing. Bremberg said the orders fulfill Trump's promise to "promote more efficient government by reforming our civil service rules."

more @
https://www.newsmax.com/politics/donald-trump-federal-worker-misconduct-firing/2018/05/25/id/862548/?oRef=outbrain
All public unions should be abolished.  Not just the federal level either, but also State public unions.  That includes the NEA teacher's union, and the International Union of Police Associations.  Public unions subvert our constitutional republic.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/01/destroy-public-sector-unions/
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 11:17:03 AM
Quote from: |Glitch| on May 28, 2018, 11:02:18 AM
All public unions should be abolished.  Not just the federal level either, but also State public unions.  That includes the NEA teacher's union, and the International Union of Police Associations.  Public unions subvert our constitutional republic.

http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/01/destroy-public-sector-unions/


No SHIT!!!!   :lol:   We the people should have full control of  congressional salaries and benefits also not them
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: Solar on May 28, 2018, 11:22:31 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 11:17:03 AM

No SHIT!!!!   :lol:   We the people should have full control of  congressional salaries and benefits also not them
I love how he states the obvious with such a sense of discovery. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 28, 2018, 11:22:31 AM
I love how he states the obvious with such a sense of discovery. :rolleyes:

I think he is working to get on my good side.   :lol:

But you know that will not work as I have no good side.  :biggrin:
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: Solar on May 28, 2018, 11:32:16 AM
Quote from: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 11:28:05 AM
I think he is working to get on my good side.   :lol:

But you know that will not work as I have no good side.  :biggrin:
Sure you do, the bottom of your boot. :biggrin:
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 11:40:59 AM
Quote from: Solar on May 28, 2018, 11:32:16 AM
Sure you do, the bottom of your boot. :biggrin:

He just don't know your the nice one.   :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: Solar on May 28, 2018, 12:02:23 PM
Quote from: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 11:40:59 AM
He just don't know your the nice one.   :lol: :lol: :lol:
I guess it's my thick Conservative skin, little bothers me anymore, especially libs that jumped from the Obozo train and claim conservative status.
They can't hide their core failings so they attack every poster that questions their lack of values.
So far all he's done here is to insult every member and play down the strides Conservatives have made in the last decade.
Libs are pessimists at heart, while Conservatives are optimists from birth and his posts speak volumes over his faux claims to the aforementioned.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 28, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
He just disemboweled the unions :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: Solar on May 28, 2018, 05:22:02 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 28, 2018, 05:19:15 PM
He just disemboweled the unions :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Neutered.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 28, 2018, 05:38:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on May 28, 2018, 05:22:02 PM
Neutered.

Two more thing that can added to what has done in office.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: Billy's bayonet on May 28, 2018, 06:01:14 PM
How very Reaganesque...... :thumbup:
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: supsalemgr on May 29, 2018, 04:37:21 AM
We are also expecting a decision from the SCOTUS concerning the mandatory membership of public sector unions. That one will be huge.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 29, 2018, 04:52:29 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 29, 2018, 04:37:21 AM
We are also expecting a decision from the SCOTUS concerning the mandatory membership of public sector unions. That one will be huge.


How long would a union last if each month, people had to pay each month by check and not have auto pay out of their paycheck. 

Also if union dues were not tax deductible.  That's like saying all my house and car insurance should tax deductible.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: T Hunt on May 29, 2018, 12:02:36 PM
But will congress ever make them permanent?
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: Possum on May 29, 2018, 01:53:03 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on May 29, 2018, 12:02:36 PM
But will congress ever make them permanent?
Probably not, but the unions best days are behind them, way behind them. :thumbup:
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: CasND on May 29, 2018, 02:11:13 PM
Quote from: walkstall on May 29, 2018, 04:52:29 AM

How long would a union last if each month, people had to pay each month by check and not have auto pay out of their paycheck. 

I always say that about withholding income tax.
If people had to write a check instead of having it withheld from their paycheck, there'd be a mutiny.

A lot of people don't even know they pay taxes.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 29, 2018, 02:14:45 PM
Quote from: CasND on May 29, 2018, 02:11:13 PM
I always say that about withholding income tax.
If people had to write a check instead of having it withheld from their paycheck, there'd be a mutiny.

A lot of people don't even know they pay taxes.

Them that pay taxes do.  Them that don't just don't care what the rest of us pay.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: CasND on May 29, 2018, 03:06:38 PM
Not all...Some look at their net pay and think...This is what I make.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: walkstall on May 29, 2018, 03:18:14 PM
Quote from: CasND on May 29, 2018, 03:06:38 PM
Not all...Some look at their net pay and think...This is what I make.


I must run with a better class of people, they all know how to read the pay stub.   :lol: 

Even people that don't speak English, know when their paycheck is short even 1ยข.
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: CasND on May 29, 2018, 03:42:19 PM
apparently so
Title: Re: President Trump Brings the Hammer Down On Federal Employee Unions
Post by: LegalAmerican on June 01, 2018, 09:05:24 PM
Excellent!  Love my president TRUMP.  WOOOOOOOT......WHOOOOT.