Prediction Thread

Started by Solar, August 30, 2011, 06:29:19 PM

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Dan

Any nitwit who thinks we are going to be threatened by a ground invasion obviously has no idea about the logistical requirements of keeping troops supplied during combat thousands of miles away from their borders. Only a handful of countries have the capacity to keep even a few thousand soldiers in a sustained fight thousands of miles from their home. Australia, the UK, France and maybe a few others I'm missing. None of those could keep enough in a sustained fight to seriously threaten our borders even assuming they could get through our air force, navy and nuclear deterent.
If you believe big government is the solution then you are a liberal. If you believe big government is the problem then you are a conservative.

Dan

Once we eventually do get things like charter schools and voucher programs going and we are able to break the left's monopoly on primary and secondary education then you are going to see a lot more children growing up conservative.

When they spend more time learning things like math and civics instead of about Johnnie's two mommies then the younger generation will move more and more to the right. When kids start learning more about Washington and Jefferson and Adams and Madison and less about Cino de mayo and George Washington Carver (a great man but not really in the same class with the founding fathers) then you will start seeing more young people speak about politics and the future of the nation from an informed position.

When that public education bubble finally pops it's gonna mean the end of the American left as we know it.
If you believe big government is the solution then you are a liberal. If you believe big government is the problem then you are a conservative.

arpad

Fox was just throwing turds at the wall to see what would stick. More looking to get a rise out of someone then anything else. The notion of an invasion, in the classic military sense, of the continental U.S. is just too silly to bother with.

Now, since you've been so injudicious as to mention the "s" word - "school", here's my prediction for the future of education - stop me if you've heard this joke before.

Charter caps are going to be raised. In Michigan there's a measure in the Senate to remove the charter cap. Good bye Detroit Public School district which has 30% of the kids in the district going to charters now.

Some districts will respond but most won't. The organizational arthritis is just too advanced so the districts, to try to protect themselves, will run to the legislature. But something funny will happen as the number of charters increases - someone will notice that charter schools are notably cheaper to operate then district schools and produce superior results educationally.

Some bright, young legislator will put two and two together and law will be passed easing the dissolution of financially non-viable school districts. What will happen to the taxing authority of the school district you ask?

Good question and inquiring minds, and grasping hands, will want to know. All those municipal employees rioting in Wisconsin will see a new pot of gold coming within reach and "education reform" will pick up a bunch of enthusiastic friends.

Next year the first school district will be dissolved. I don't know when the last school district will be dissolved but the public education system as it's currently constituted will look very different within five years.

walkstall

Quote from: arpad on November 16, 2011, 07:16:09 PM
Fox was just throwing turds at the wall to see what would stick. More looking to get a rise out of someone then anything else. The notion of an invasion, in the classic military sense, of the continental U.S. is just too silly to bother with.

Now, since you've been so injudicious as to mention the "s" word - "school", here's my prediction for the future of education - stop me if you've heard this joke before.

Charter caps are going to be raised. In Michigan there's a measure in the Senate to remove the charter cap. Good bye Detroit Public School district which has 30% of the kids in the district going to charters now.

Some districts will respond but most won't. The organizational arthritis is just too advanced so the districts, to try to protect themselves, will run to the legislature. But something funny will happen as the number of charters increases - someone will notice that charter schools are notably cheaper to operate then district schools and produce superior results educationally.

Some bright, young legislator will put two and two together and law will be passed easing the dissolution of financially non-viable school districts. What will happen to the taxing authority of the school district you ask?

Good question and inquiring minds, and grasping hands, will want to know. All those municipal employees rioting in Wisconsin will see a new pot of gold coming within reach and "education reform" will pick up a bunch of enthusiastic friends.

Next year the first school district will be dissolved. I don't know when the last school district will be dissolved but the public education system as it's currently constituted will look very different within five years.

Would be nice if I could see this in my life time.   8-)
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redlom xof

I was actually referring to American ground invasion of Iran, not the other way around.
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arpad

Quote from: redlom xof on November 16, 2011, 09:00:26 PM
I was actually referring to American ground invasion of Iran, not the other way around.
Oh. Then you should make sure what you write doesn't presuppose the ability on the part of your readers to read your mind or an inclination to do so.

Walks, the pieces are already in place to upend the public education system and the process is in progress. I really don't see any stopping it although it could take longer then I predict if the public education lobby manages to pull together and pull out all the stops. But even then all they'll only buy themselves a little time.

There are forces at work, political, economic and technological, that'll make business as usual impossible for the public education system. The proponents of business as usual are still in the "determined ignorance" phase of the response since the threat's still fairly small in size. But the forces driving the changes are, I believe, unstoppable.

redlom xof

You wrote words, but they don't mean anything.
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arpad


quiller

redlom, either write in clear English --- or be immediately brought to account for your wording, by those who do.

Dan

Maybe we should start a "English as a second language" board?  :))
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redlom xof

I'll try to type in more simple english for some of you simple folk out there.

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Also, air strikes will start on Iran with heavy sanctions as well. We will probably get attacked 9/11 style again and wonder why people hate us so much. Then ground invasion will beguin.


It wasn't that hard to comprehend.
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Solar

Quote from: redlom xof on November 22, 2011, 07:02:29 PM
I'll try to type in more simple english for some of you simple folk out there.
 
It wasn't that hard to comprehend.
Or we could just wait for Iran to build a nuke to attack Israel and make things 100 times worse.
I think this one is a no-brainer...
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redlom xof

So America and Israel have every right to build thousands of nukes ... but Iran can't build one ?

Also, don't you think we could be falling for the same tactics again as we did with Iraq ? Scare the shit out of us all so we accept military action against yet another country.

Also, where is this money going to come from ?
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Solar

Quote from: redlom xof on November 22, 2011, 07:28:06 PM
So America and Israel have every right to build thousands of nukes ... but Iran can't build one ?
No, they cannot!
You probably aren't old enough to remember when Iranian radicals abducted Terry Waight as part of 50 hostages held in Iran (thank you Carter), but Amadimawod was one of the leaders of that group.
The guy hates freedom, or anything to do with the West.
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Also, don't you think we could be falling for the same tactics again as we did with Iraq ? Scare the shit out of us all so we accept military action against yet another country.
Why do you assume it would result in full blown war?

QuoteAlso, where is this money going to come from ?
How about we start with the arts, PBS, Planned Parent hood, the list is long, but I'm sure we could cut enough to take out Iran's nuke capabilities and feed the homeless here at home for many years, with money left over.

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redlom xof

QuoteYou probably aren't old enough to remember when Iranian radicals abducted Terry Waight as part of 50 hostages held in Iran (thank you Carter), but Amadimawod was one of the leaders of that group.
The guy hates freedom, or anything to do with the West.

America and the west have done far worse in the last 60 years.

I'll agree with you, that thier regime hates most things we consider freedom. Could you show me evidence of where he hates anything to do with the West.

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Why do you assume it would result in full blown war?



Because that's our most of our past conflicts have escalated to.

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How about we start with the arts, PBS, Planned Parent hood, the list is long, but I'm sure we could cut enough to take out Iran's nuke capabilities and feed the homeless here at home for many years, with money left over.



I would prefer we helped Americans with their education, medical bills and other such things than spend billions on another failed pre-emptive war.
"Christians are expected to pacify angry Muslims, Communist brats and homosexual radicals and Mexicans who convinced themselves that they own our land. That tells me the Christians are the better people among brutal and violent beasts."  Yawn - 15th May, 2013